And Adrian Peterson.
that's not a small factor.
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that's not a small factor.
The "IF" game can be fun. IF the Texans had scored TDs in the red zone, the pick six could've easily been a touchback and the Texans still win. If Honey Badger hadn't been called for holding. If, if, if. The Texans did get the pick six and did win the game. Who knows how the game plays out in an alternate universe where it was a touchback.
Do you actually watch the games or do you rely on stats, etc. for your info?
I don't trust OB in situations that don't matter.
Too many games that the Texans never got out of turtle mode. Going Turtle mantle still belongs to Kubes. Gotta get there before you can go there.
I like it when opposing coaches make poor decisions. Yin/yang
OB didn't wait years. Rick Smith did.
OB does need to be gone, but not due to the state of the OL. That's mostly on the GM. Now with X and position changes, yeah.
If the OL issue is still an issue, how do you determine the scheme is the issue?
Mr teX
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ehh, our red zone scoring percentage over our last 3 games say that we've scored TD's in the red zone at a 64% clip. For perspective that's better than the Pats (56%), Chargers (57%) and.................the Rams (61%) over their last 3.
Certainly not trying to say our offenses are anywhere close to those teams, but we've been better in the redzone scoring TD's over the back end of this 7 game win streak.......when we've been able to get there. I just don't think people realize how much our 0-3 start really effected that overall red zone percentage. Our red zone scoring percentage after our 1st 3 was 36%. We made it to the red zone twice against the redskins. Scored a TD on 1, Fg another = 50%...
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Like you said...
Need to get to the RZ first.
And 3 games is too small of a sample size anyway.
Last game- 3 offensive scoring drives of decent length, only 1 a TD
Mr teX
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Regardless..one of those non TD drives rescued our “vaunted” defense after it gave up a go ahead TD to a guy who hadn’t thrown a regular season pass in 4 years.
People who know vs people who think they know.
The defense basically gave up 2 scores (TDs) and no field goals. The 3rd TD was because the offense turned it over inside the Texan's 30.
Holding a team to 2 scores is great defense.
Scoring 1 TD and 2 field goals is not good offense.
Sports radio people don't know much.
Former GM Pat Kirwin who has spent 50 yrs and worked for both Parcells and Carroll does. Some current FO in the NFL used to work for him. I remember Kirwin saying who all worked for him but cant remember who it was.
But hey, you know better than he does.
Mr teX
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A 75% red zone TD conversion percentage IS NOT great defense. Neither is giving up the lead late in games to the likes of a Nathan Peterman, Case Keenum and now Colt McCoy. Truth is They’ve really only had 1 dominant performance all year....against the Jags.....just like the offense has only had 1 against the Dolphins.
Thing is though, our offense has faced more formidable defenses than our defense has faced formidable offenses. So who’s really underperforming?
Your stats betray u
leebigeztx
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Worked with McKay with the bo Jackson deal in Tampa. Longtime Jets gm for better or worse. Fired by Tuna in NY. Cool dude with alot of contacts
Uh, who? That guy hasn't worked on the nfl since 1997 and was never a GM or head coach
This is nonsense. This is a top 3 unit in the NFL.
So why are you so protective of the offense and so critical of the defense? Do you honestly believe the offense is the better unit?
Shishkabob
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Mr teX= Wes Welker in real life. When he has free time he comes on here and chops it up with us common folk
The guy who was considered for the Seahawks GM job (Rumored to have turned it down) and is as well connected in the NFL as anybody.
I can see this is going nowhere if you cant even admit Kirwin is well connected.
I'll admit he's well connected that doesn't mean he realizes O'Brien has built bottom 10 offenses and OL's every year.
Trust me, he will be watching tape before and after the Texans MNF game. He's well aware of the Texans issues. He just chooses to put a positive spin on things.
Look at last MNF game for example, he spent time enough to breakdown the tape to find that there were 120 attempted passes in that game. If he wasn't doing his homework he would've looked at the stats sheet and gone with that number.
Tex in a Can
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Interesting, BoB losing his temper and hanging up (questionable question as well), at 2:40, enjoy midday 180 john mcclain podcast http://www.1045thezone.com/midday-180/
Mr teX
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Keep up. I've never said that the offense was the better of the 2 units & I'm not any more critical of the defense than i am of the offense. You just notice the criticism i lob at the defense more b/c you're riding with your DVOA ranking & are dropping your head in the sand like an ostrich unwilling to look beyond that.
The only 2 qbs of note on that they've faced, Brady & Luck ...................dropped an avg of 31 ppg on them....dropped it easily too.
all the rest of the bum qbs combined they've faced they're only giving up and avg of 18 ppg. That's a huge disparity and it's worth noting. So i'll ask you........Do you feel this defense is going to be able to hold Luck and the red hot Colts at or below the league avg of 24 pts in a few weeks? They certainly have the talent to, but they haven't played up to that level all year.
Just from watching them...seeing how some of these games have gone...and watching other defenses around the league...I'm not convinced they've played on the same level as BUF and CHI...which your top 3 DVOA ranking puts them in the same class as.
The Bears/Bills are better defense than the Texans this yr. Although the Texans do have a top tier defense.
welsh texan
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I don't think scheme is the only issue, I don't like the scheme, but I think the OL compounds the issue.
Fact is, you can't pick apart one thing that is wrong with Bob's O because there are too many issues, he can't run the ball, he can't coach an OL, he picks shoddy QBs and then changes his mind, he doesn't know how to utilise TEs.
Hes been gifted great WRs since he got here, maybe he can coach and scheme receivers.
As to your previous question, yes I watch all games live via gamepass. Would never claim to know as much about the game as many here as I've only been watching for 15 years, but I can see when the offense grinds to a halt.
Shishkabob
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that was really a dumb question though lol
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yup, agreed, I was wondering by the way McClain laughed if he had put Kuharsky up to it. They are both on the HOF committee and had just finished the long meeting where they vote down to the 25, and they've known each other for a long time.
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Shishkabob
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I mean if you want to go by common opponents that us and the Bills have played in regards to the 2 elite QBs we each have faced. We gave up 2 more points against the patriots, but gave up 3 less points against the colts(with an OT period). Pretty even on that scale
Mr teX
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But Bills & Bears have both faced better qbs overall though....which is why the Bills aren't ranked at the top for PPG allowed.... Chi still is though. With the sorry lot of qbs the Texans have been lucky to face......... & taking the talent on that side of the ball into consideration, they should be #1 PPG allowed.
They are a top 10 defense on the back end of the top 10..not top 3 though. They just aren't playing up to the talent level on that side.
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It’s not playing for some reason. What was he asked? The guy seriously needs to lay off his weak “I’m an assh*le, and proud of it” front that he loves to put up when Interacting with the media. It’s part of being a pro football coach! I don’t understand why he acts like hearing him speak is such a privilege. Now, I know reporters may ask stupid questions but he needs to be more professional. He’s not exactly Bill Belichick.
If you didn't hear tha assh*le question, aren't you being oob for calling him an assh*le?
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Idk if I can say that either though. We are very weak at corner, being down 2 of your 3 ILBs hurt bad to, especially considering they are both your best coverage LBs.
Modern NFL, teams will score on occasion I don't care how good your defense is, there will always be games in which your defense gets taken to the woodshed. Bears gave up 31 to an Osweiler lead Miami, 38 to the Patriots, and 24 in 1 half against Rodgers on 1 leg. Bills gave up 37 to the Ravens, 31 to the Chargers, 37 to the Colts, and 41 to the bears.
Not saying our defense is great, good QBs are still going to get to them like good QBs generally get to every defense. That's why I said in another thread while our current offensive strategy is smart, considering who we are playing and Watson's health, it won't be sustainable against better teams who will score more
No, you just said he thought of himself as an assh*le. Sorry I didn't read correctly first time through
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The questions was something like "How does it feel having all this success with Deshaun knowing Rick was the only guy in the building who wanted him?"
Really random, way out of left field question that truly had no merit. That had never been a story line in local or national media, it was obviously a question by a station who covers the opposing team done to intentionally to irritate OB. If that's the 2nd question you ask me as a coach, I'm hanging up to because that shows what type of interview you are going after. I could see that question being asked if it was a Brock situation where there has been reports, whether true or not, that OB didn't want Brock and Rick brought him in without OB's say. Then I could see asking the question, because it had been rumored enough to potentially have legs, but the "how do you feel knowing you are only employed because another guy went against your wishes and gave you a young QB" was dumb, ignorant, and pretty much shows exactly how our media has gone to **** in todays world
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Yep, I had never heard that BoB was opposed to the Watson draft selection before, ever, seems random. Kuharsky and McClain are both long standing reporters, not usually up to these kind of juvenile tricks, they both sit on the HOF selection committee, that's why it seems so out of character to do this. Both of them sat on the long HOF cut down to 25 meetings the past few days, seems weird for this question to pop up. Oh well it's worth a couple of minutes of entertainment to listen to.
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But what if it's true? Pancakes and Kuharsky have been AFC reporters for decades they are definitely plugged in. O'Brien did trot out Savage (who's not in the league anymore btw) in front of Watson, and didn't even give Watson first team reps last year as a contingency plan. Pattern of Obrien not knowing how to answer critical questions professionally continues, what a big baby so easy to get under his skin.
Pancakes himself said after OB hung up that OB had told him that Watson was #1 on the board and Mahomes next. Did you listen? I'm presuming not to the most of the entire thing
Yep agree there. The media isn't gonna trash a coach harshly
So you say Buffalo and Chicago are ranked above them
DVOA ranks Texans 3rd.
What exactly are you arguing about?
And where do you put the offense then? One TD drive against the vaunted Redskins.
That's what McClain claims... and it makes sense as Osweiler was the best option at the time
I never heard O'Brien say that He objected to bringing Osweiler in... to the contract maybe he objected, I wouldn't know. But never did I hear him say he didn't want him here
OB actually answered the question fairly, and then asked who it was that asked. When Kuharsky told him and that he covered the Titans, OB asked if anymore question and when no response he hung up
Did you listen to the podcast? McClain clearly stated different, or perhaps I was too drumk at 11:30 AM or you hate too much to hear clearly
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