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FIRE O'BRIEN NOW!!!

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NitroGSXR said:
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Truth is... it doesn’t matter. It’s like this... Demaryius Thomas almost cost us the game with his penalty. Jordan Thomas dropped a sure end zone catch. Kelemente missed a game changing block. JoJo didn’t play, Etc etc. It’s all in the eye of the beholder. Bottom line... we won the football game. That doesn’t make me a homer. It means I am a fan who is enjoying his team’s winning streak.
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What makes you a homer is your jolt to scream and yell at anybody who criticizes the way that the team plays or the way that the coach calls a game. You could easily disagree with what I originally said, but you got outraged by the content my post with a "how dare you" response to my frustration to OB's game calling. And for the record I've been a pretty strong OB supporter for the most part. He's had a long time to do get his **** together at this point though, and he shouldn't still be learning on the job like he's a first year coach. He's proven time and time again now that he's average at best and seems incapable of evolving.
 
It's not just the predictability of when he runs and passes, it the specific play calls. I mean a 4th and 2 and you're running Blue up the gut on a halfback dive, when the line has gotten zero push all day? Brain dead.

On first down, it's similar. Little to no variety. He lacks any imagination in his play calling or play design and just calls plays according to type. It's like a comedian that can't read drama. Well, it's first and 10 so of course let's run Miller/Blue off tackle and hope we get 3 yards.
 
Texecutioner said:
What makes you a homer is your jolt to scream and yell at anybody who criticizes the way that the team plays or the way that the coach calls a game. You could easily disagree with what I originally said, but you got outraged by the content my post with a "how dare you" response to my frustration to OB's game calling. And for the record I've been a pretty strong OB supporter for the most part. He's had a long time to do get his **** together at this point though, and he shouldn't still be learning on the job like he's a first year coach. He's proven time and time again now that he's average at best and seems incapable of evolving.
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What? Try re-reading my post which was a humorous response to yours...

Lighten up and join us on our record breaking winning streak! It could end next week for all we know. Enjoy it while it lasts.

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Porky said:
In fairness to BOB, they have better lines, but overall - point taken. Reed and Mcvay are brilliant offensive minds. BOB likes to think he is, but from my armchair, that dog don't hunt.
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The reason is they invested in their OL's.

Give BOB their OL's and then we could have this discussion.
 
Porky said:
It's not just the predictability of when he runs and passes, it the specific play calls. I mean a 4th and 2 and you're running Blue up the gut on a halfback dive, when the line has gotten zero push all day? Brain dead.

On first down, it's similar. Little to no variety. He lacks any imagination in his play calling or play design and just calls plays according to type. It's like a comedian that can't read drama. Well, it's first and 10 so of course let's run Miller/Blue off tackle and hope we get 3 yards.
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The running on almost every 1st down against the Broncos was maddening. But BOB was trying to shorten the game and let his defense win the game for him. That's what you have to do when you have this OL.
 
steelbtexan said:
The running on almost every 1st down against the Broncos was maddening. But BOB was trying to shorten the game and let his defense win the game for him. That's what you have to do when you have this OL.
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I get that, and for that reason, I give him a small pass, but you can still have some imagination in your calls. You can also use short, safe passes as an extension to the running game when it's not working - and it wasn't working!
 
Porky said:
I get that, and for that reason, I give him a small pass, but you can still have some imagination in your calls. You can also use short, safe passes as an extension to the running game when it's not working - and it wasn't working!
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The two game prior to the Broncos game that skitty oline played their butts off. I highly doubt that was the plan. We almost lost this game behind that decision if it was the plan.
 
Texansballer74 said:
The two game prior to the Broncos game that skitty oline played their butts off. I highly doubt that was the plan. We almost lost this game behind that decision if it was the plan.
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Because they were playing crappy DL's.

The Broncos DL is the kind the the Texans will be facing in the playoffs.

BOB crapped the bed but McNanus let him off the hook.

This goes back to the old saying, I would rather be lucky than good, because the good people keep talking about how lucky I am.

BTW, The end of the 1st half showed how really bad a HC Joseph is. I told a Broncos fan sitting next to me thanks for the points, we are going to need them. He said Joseph does stupid stuff like that every week. We LOL'ed.
 
The Jaguars DLine is not crappy. But of course you won't acknowledge that because it doesn't fit into you scheme.

And since the oline of ours is that bad every team should be able to exploit the heck out of it.
 
Texansballer74 said:
The Jaguars DLine is not crappy. But of course you won't acknowledge that because it doesn't fit into you scheme.

And since the oline of ours is that bad every team should be able to exploit the heck out of it.
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With Campbell playing hurt they aren't what you think they are.

Look at the points teams have been putting up on the Jags this yr.

Also the Jags have given up on the season. IMHO
 
steelbtexan said:
With Campbell playing hurt they aren't what you think they are.

Look at the points teams have been putting up on the Jags this yr.

Also the Jags have given up on the season. IMHO
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Here we go with the excuses. We have linemen playing hurt all the times as well. Do you ever factor that into the equation when comes to the Texans? Other than Watson

I highly doubt they dialed it in because they were trying like heck to beat the Colts yesterday.
 
Texansballer74 said:
Here we go with the excuses. We have linemen playing hurt all the times as well. Do you ever factor that into the equation when comes to the Texans? Other than Watson

I highly doubt they dialed it in because they were trying like heck to beat the Colts yesterday.
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No excuse at all.

Please stop responding to me.
 
Speedy said:
Wait, your defending our o-line? I don't think you're going to win that debate.
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Not with him anyways. And all I'm saying is he can come with all the excuses for every other team but the Texans. The Texans line did play well against the Jaguars. But the reason for that is they're playing hurt and all of sudden dialing it in.

They played very solid against the Phins. But the excuse is the Phins front seven isn't good.

That type of stuff just doesn't make any sense whatsoever. Sometimes it's ok to give credit when it is warranted. Watson is not taking a beating like he did before the Jaguars game. Everybody on here truly thought he would, including Steel
 
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badboy said:
6- 3
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I'm glad they're 6-3, they will probably finish 10-6. That's about where I predicted they would finish before the yr started. That would be the 2nd best record in franchise history, but lets not pretend like they are contenders. 10-6 wont be good enough for some on here to keep the pitchforks put away.
 
steelbtexan said:
I'm glad they're 6-3, they will probably finish 10-6. That's about where I predicted they would finish before the yr started. That would be the 2nd best record in franchise history, but lets not pretend like they are contenders. 10-6 wont be good enough for some on here to keep the pitchforks put away.
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You mean like yourself ?
 
That's exactly what they been doing. Getting the ball out Watson hand quickly. The same stuff we did with him last season. In the beginning they wasn't
 
I am with you that think for the most part BO'b has been way too predictable and has shown a lack of imagination when it comes to running our offense. However I do think he has shown enough times that he can be creative more than he has. I just have to wonder if it boils down to injuries and a lack of comfort in the weapons he has had to work with. When he learned that Will Fuller was more than just a deep threat he used him in many ways. He also started to use the TE's although in a limited way, but he at least did. We now have KeKe Coutee, a young WR that seems to have showed some promise when he has gotten some playing time and we got what should at least be a solid pick up in Demaryius Thomas. I still think BO'b will start games much as always but I think as games progress and his comfort level improves he will open the offense up a bit more.

I may be trying to see things in a more positive light than they are because anyone who has read some of my post in regards to BO'b knows I have not been a fan boy. I guess I just want to make excuses because no matter how piss poor our offense has been and no matter how lucky we seem to be there is some credit that has to go to BO'b and his coaching staff for pulling us out of 0-3 start to now leading our division with 6-3 record.

If we struggle against better competition and the offense never does much more than what BO'b has shown us in the past I will be sharing frustrations on here with many of you.
 
TxnsJuggernaut said:
I am with you that think for the most part BO'b has been way too predictable and has shown a lack of imagination when it comes to running our offense. However I do think he has shown enough times that he can be creative more than he has. I just have to wonder if it boils down to injuries and a lack of comfort in the weapons he has had to work with. When he learned that Will Fuller was more than just a deep threat he used him in many ways. He also started to use the TE's although in a limited way, but he at least did. We now have KeKe Coutee, a young WR that seems to have showed some promise when he has gotten some playing time and we got what should at least be a solid pick up in Demaryius Thomas. I still think BO'b will start games much as always but I think as games progress and his comfort level improves he will open the offense up a bit more.

I may be trying to see things in a more positive light than they are because anyone who has read some of my post in regards to BO'b knows I have not been a fan boy. I guess I just want to make excuses because no matter how piss poor our offense has been and no matter how lucky we seem to be there is some credit that has to go to BO'b and his coaching staff for pulling us out of 0-3 start to now leading our division with 6-3 record.

If we struggle against better competition and the offense never does much more than what BO'b has shown us in the past I will be sharing frustrations on here with many of you.
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and this a realistic fair approach. At what point do we quit arguing history and deal with today? A fan can be hopeful, optimistic and still critical. I just wished every thread didn't have to keep throwing former coaches, players and GMs into it. We are here 6-3 let's deal with each day going forward; future is open game imo as it can be changed, the past not at all. Most here get that some of us are concerned we will keep repeating history but little by us can be done.
 
steelbtexan said:
Because they were playing crappy DL's.

The Broncos DL is the kind the the Texans will be facing in the playoffs.
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Depends. Broncos is one of the best front sevens in the league in regards to generating pressure. Pats are Chiefs front seven are bottom half of the league IMO.
 
dream_team said:
Depends. Broncos is one of the best front sevens in the league in regards to generating pressure. Pats are Chiefs front seven are bottom half of the league IMO.
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KC is averaging 3.1 sacks a game, just like the Broncos, and more than our vaunted front 7 which averages 2.6...
 
4 of the next 7 games at home. 3 in a row at home after the Redskins. Road games against the Jets and Eagles. Billy needs to go AT LEAST 3-1 in those homes games, especially considering 3 of those 4 are AFC South foes. Do that and beat the Redskins and Jets. That's 11-5. Get it done Billy!!
 
dream_team said:
Depends. Broncos is one of the best front sevens in the league in regards to generating pressure. Pats are Chiefs front seven are bottom half of the league IMO.
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True

I dont think the Texans offense can put up enough points to beat teams like the Pats/Chiefs/Chargers.

This doesn't entirely have to do with BOB, the talent isn't there on the OL.
 
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4 of the next 7 games at home. 3 in a row at home after the Redskins. Road games against the Jets and Eagles. Billy needs to go AT LEAST 3-1 in those homes games, especially considering 3 of those 4 are AFC South foes. Do that and beat the Redskins and Jets. That's 11-5. Get it done Billy!!
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Did you think they were going to be 11-5 at the start of the season?
 
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Did you think they were going to be 11-5 at the start of the season?
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No way. I was probably the 8-8, 9-7 guy. But now, with a little momentum on their side, there is no reason not to finish at least 11-5.

I'm really interested in the 3 division games. The Colts are playing pretty good football right now. Luck and Hilton have been known to put the screws to the Texans. And the TE's over there are heavily involved in the offense. They may pose more of a threat to the Texans than the Titans, IMO.

And that 11-5 record is maybe the 3rd seed, behind the Chiefs and the Pats. The Steelers have a monster schedule, Chargers, Pats, Saints, Jags, and Broncos still. They could end up with 5 or 6 loses.
 
Mr teX said:
And skill players at all levels
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They really just need a RB and another WR if Coutee can't stay healthy. I would let Griffin walk after this yr and draft a blocking TE later in the draft. I'm very high on Jordan Thomas and I think Akins will improve. They are currently playing him at FB quite a bit.

TE is one of the hardest positions to learn. Look at this yrs draft class as an example. Hayden Hurst is very talented but how much impact has he made?
 
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