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Ed Reed agrees to terms with Texans

For what it's worth, Chad might just be talking about this, but don't let me stop you guys from losing it over the thought of him across from Andre.
 
Dutchrudder said:
Jacoby had his issues, but he was nowhere near the distraction that Ochocinco was for the Bengals. Jacoby right now is a much better player than Chad has been in a few years.
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I'm sure AJ would keep him in check, a couple of haymakers and its done. Just ask Innegan, he aint mess with AJ after that..
 
Dutchrudder said:
That's because he's leaving out the bulk of the contract.

http://www.overthecap.com/cap.php?Name=Joe%20Flacco&Position=QB&Team=Ravens

2016: $28,550,000
2017: $31,150,000
2018: $24,750,000
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I'm referring to the first three years. The article & a couple just like it are saying Flacco is going to earn $51M the first two years & $62 over the first three.

Maybe they meant to say he'll receive $62M over the first three years, but even if that's true, handswarmer can't be right about Flacco's cap number.

Edit: Let me go over it again, but it looks like they're counting his prorated bonus & his bonus as money received.
 
Dutchrudder said:
Jacoby had his issues, but he was nowhere near the distraction that Ochocinco was for the Bengals. Jacoby right now is a much better player than Chad has been in a few years.
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Signing CJ to a 1 yr deal as a prove it signing and then draft another wr .
I would be all for guys competing to make the team.
 
Playoffs said:
Chad can't touch Jacoby. Will never be a Texan.

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What does Omer Asik have to do with this?
 
thunderkyss said:
I'm not sure what you're saying here, I think you're talking about Dumerville. If you are, I think that's a good point. Why would Dumerville take a paycut he'll get paid if he hits free agency. This dude just came off a double digit sack year for the third time in a 6 year career.

Then Philly gets Barwin to ink a deal where he's only getting $4.5M over the first three years of the deal. Only $8Million guaranteed over the first 2 years, then you can cut him at no cost. I see no reason we couldn't afford to pay Connor $4.5M/yr. & if Rick Smith offered Connor something similar before 2012 & couldn't seal the deal..... I mean, c'mon guys. The writing is on the wall.

& if Quin is signing deals similar to what we would've/should've/could've offered??? I'm sorry (not really) but the man (Smith) has a lot to prove.
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I was talking about Elway compared to Smith initially as a joke towards someone else. Of course I was talking positive about Elway & someone felt the need to state he screwed up w/ Dumervil by allowing him to become a FA by not getting his new reduced contract to the league in time. It remains to he seen what happens next based on the speculation, but it doesn't erase what Elway has accomplished w/ his team imo.
 
thunderkyss said:
I'm referring to the first three years. The article & a couple just like it are saying Flacco is going to earn $51M the first two years & $62 over the first three.

Maybe they meant to say he'll receive $62M over the first three years, but even if that's true, handswarmer can't be right about Flacco's cap number.

Edit: Let me go over it again, but it looks like they're counting his prorated bonus & his bonus as money received.
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Ah, I see what you meant now. Yeah, signing bonuses are always reported as what the player received that year, like when Arian Foster got ~18m last year for signing his new deal. 6m in salary + 12m signing bonus. Cap hits are separate from that, it's just a context issue.

Although, the Flacco deal overall is crazy. His guaranteed money and salary structure is completely unmanageable after the 3rd year, and it just begs for a restructuring+extension. I like Flacco, but I don't think for a moment that he's worth the kind of money he got in that deal.
 
Okay, that's the most animated & excited I've ever seen/heard AJ -- not much by other standards, but for AJ it was a outright 'happy dance'.

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I heard, listened and watched everything yesterday waiting for news to drop about if Reed was signing with Houston.

I've been out of pocket today and have not heard anything besides Reed left Houston without a deal being done.

Can someone catch me up here?

Are the Texans and Reed still negotiating?

Is Charles Woodson still an option?

Is there any real interest from the Texans with WR Chad Johnson?

For the most part, I'm just looking to get up-to-speed on whats going on with Reed and the Texans because I haven't been around a computer a lot today.

Thanks!
 
Bulls on Parade said:
If only you knew what I do you'd jump for joy right now. I'll just say that I hope you like Ed Reed, Bernard Pollard and Eric Winston. There's going to be a trifecta signing going down tomorrow. I think the Texans are positioning themselves nicely well before the draft. Enjoy the evening guys. Let's call it a Friday of champions here in Houston!
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Yeah, about this?

I had the feeling you were kidding, but did you really have to get our hopes up at the same time?
You lost a ton of credibility with this one.
 
Playoffs said:
Okay, that's the most animated & excited I've ever seen/heard AJ -- not much by other standards, but for AJ it was a outright 'happy dance'.

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Inquiring minds wanna know what this is about.
 
bckey said:
I know. It would cost $8 million. Way out of our range.
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There are all sorts of ways to structure contracts. Look at Flacco or what Miami is doing with all its signings. Flacco's contract averages over $20 mil per year but the cap hit next year is $6.8 mil.
 
infantrycak said:
I don't get the Eyore attitude. It's like there is nothing which can be done will be satisfactory. If he leaves we were just being played. If he signs we overpaid.
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No Eyore attitude here. I just don't like the deal. 12 year player, past his prime and not a physical tackler anymore. Playing in Wade's line em up and play man cover defense. Sure he was a great player, but unless you get him cheap, any contract 6-7 mil a year will be too much. You don't have to be a pessimist to not like this deal.
 
tru80texan said:
John Elway is already in the process of convincing many that he can be a very good GM very quickly while we are still holding on to hope that Smith can eventually hit & surpass the "ok" GM standard. LOL! Just messing w/ you...sorta.
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At any rate, if you like to "discuss" Elway, start a thread in the NFL forum and I will be happy to join you.

Let's not annoint the guy before all the facts are laid out.
 
Vinny said:
No Eyore attitude here. I just don't like the deal. 12 year player, past his prime and not a physical tackler anymore. Sure he was a great player, but unless you get him cheap, any contract 6-7 mil a year will be too much. You don't have to be a pessimist to not like this deal.
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I would much rather have a cheaper vet as well but if the Texans see the Patriots as unbeatable, Reed would be the guy to get.
 
Vinny said:
No Eyore attitude here. I just don't like the deal. 12 year player, past his prime and not a physical tackler anymore. Sure he was a great player, but unless you get him cheap, any contract 6-7 mil a year will be too much. You don't have to be a pessimist to not like this deal.
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There's no indication that it will be in the $6-7M range though.
 
Vinny said:
He want's 7 mil a year...that's an indication. Texans want to pay 5 supposedly - That's an indication of why it's not done. Any more obvious stuff to point out?
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Well, if it's not done due to the difference then no harm to it.

If anything, I'd like to see an incentive clause in his contract.
 
If he wants $6-$7 million then it's a no go and thanks for visiting. I'm leery to pay him even $5 million a year.
 
Vinny said:
No Eyore attitude here. I just don't like the deal. 12 year player, past his prime and not a physical tackler anymore. Playing in Wade's line em up and play man cover defense. Sure he was a great player, but unless you get him cheap, any contract 6-7 mil a year will be too much. You don't have to be a pessimist to not like this deal.
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Agreed, 6M-7M is too much. We need to sign Mikell and Roy Miller. Well, Miller just signed with the Jags. I think he would have been a cheap repalcement/upgrade over Cody. Can we get Mikell on the plane or something, we need a vet safety.
 
If rumors are true that we wanted $5 mill-per and Ed wanted closer to an average of around $6 or $7 mill-per....then, yeah it's over.

For us, that $1 or $2 mill is vital for other needs. And frankly this possibly Ed trying for a big deal with the Texans, cashing in a favor of Andre Johnson to take a run at joining our team at the same time. Two birds with one stone. After this, our front office should tell AJ to stop the twitter invitations to his pals out there (psssst! It doesn't work out well for us, Andre.).

Time is ticking, though, so the Texans have to decide if they sit out too long and miss out on the FAs that could be money well spent...or if we maybe overpay a bit for someone right now ASAP.

I don't think the fans will stomach non-action right now, then a really putrid free agency signing in the summer which adds up to being a farce when we really screwed the pooch waiting on Ed Reed and watching other guys get signed.

They need to peg $5 million or maybe up to $6 million to spend on ANY freaking player they think can even marginally help our team....then use the remaining $5 million or so for rookie deals and emergency cash if we need to sign someone during camp or preseason due to an injury of ours.

If the Texans don't follow my strategy, then they are dumb. I do this on a message board all day, so I'm pretty good at imaginary GM. A legend in my own mind, of course. LOL.
 
NitroGSXR said:
Almost 24 hours later and I am still waiting to have my plate of ravens.
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I told you that you might be the one who is right all along!

Ha ha! You were like a ninja, out of the darkness came a blowdart right into our neck and we thought it was a mosquito bite.....then we wondered why we fell down on the floor, convulsed for awhile, then slipped into peaceful sleep.

Nitro ninja'd us. And 98% of you guys never saw him do it.

But I did. I nodded to the ninja, he nodded back in mutual respect, and I walked away with my life that night. I now live to tell the story of that fateful night that NitroGSXR slipped into our master's dwelling and left only one standing...me.
 
GP said:
I told you that you might be the one who is right all along!

Ha ha! You were like a ninja, out of the darkness came a blowdart right into our neck and we thought it was a mosquito bite.....then we wondered why we fell down on the floor, convulsed for awhile, then slipped into peaceful sleep.

Nitro ninja'd us. And 98% of you guys never saw him do it.

But I did. I nodded to the ninja, he nodded back in mutual respect, and I walked away with my life that night. I now live to tell the story of that fateful night that NitroGSXR slipped into our master's dwelling and left only one standing...me.
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Hey, it's the off-season.

It's always fun talking about possible FA acquisition.
 
GP said:
I told you that you might be the one who is right all along!

Ha ha! You were like a ninja, out of the darkness came a blowdart right into our neck and we thought it was a mosquito bite.....then we wondered why we fell down on the floor, convulsed for awhile, then slipped into peaceful sleep.

Nitro ninja'd us. And 98% of you guys never saw him do it.

But I did. I nodded to the ninja, he nodded back in mutual respect, and I walked away with my life that night. I now live to tell the story of that fateful night that NitroGSXR slipped into our master's dwelling and left only one standing...me.
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This is me in real life... sporting the Ninja facepaint and ready to pull out my sword.

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Lucky said:
Boy did you smell this one. This was definitely their Casserly moment.
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And if Reed agrees? Don't give us an excuse to point out how silly you are before anything is settled.

If Reed signs, he signs. If he doesn't, we'll find somebody else. The defeatism and misplaced anger here on this forum over this is hilarious.
 
GP said:
If rumors are true that we wanted $5 mill-per and Ed wanted closer to an average of around $6 or $7 mill-per....then, yeah it's over.

For us, that $1 or $2 mill is vital for other needs.
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This is why I didn't want to sign him. Sounded like that's what he wanted and it would be stupid to give it to him.

I was ok with a cheap price, but even 5 mil makes me nervous.
 
Ed Reed leaving Reliant Stadium without a signed contract just shows that the Texans ARE NOT committed to bringing a Super Bowl trophy to Houston. Boo to Rick Smith and Gary Kubiak. We are in cap trouble, have more holes than we had at the end of the season and Schaub is going to be here for the next couple of years.
 
GP said:
I told you that you might be the one who is right all along!

Ha ha! You were like a ninja, out of the darkness came a blowdart right into our neck and we thought it was a mosquito bite.....then we wondered why we fell down on the floor, convulsed for awhile, then slipped into peaceful sleep.

Nitro ninja'd us. And 98% of you guys never saw him do it.

But I did. I nodded to the ninja, he nodded back in mutual respect, and I walked away with my life that night. I now live to tell the story of that fateful night that NitroGSXR slipped into our master's dwelling and left only one standing...me.
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Geez, it's barely past 6 in the evening and you're already into ..... well, whatever it is you get into when you want to get twisted. :kitten:

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bhsman said:
And if Reed agrees? Don't give us an excuse to point out how silly you are before anything is settled.
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Dude, I've got over 11,000 posts to point out my silliness. And there's plenty more where that came from. Wait until I say something that really upsets you before getting your panties in a bunch.
 
TexansFight said:
Ed Reed leaving Reliant Stadium without a signed contract just shows that the Texans ARE NOT committed to bringing a Super Bowl trophy to Houston. Boo to Rick Smith and Gary Kubiak. We are in cap trouble, have more holes than we had at the end of the season and Schaub is going to be here for the next couple of years.
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So the Texans aren't committed to win because they didn't sign Reed to a big contract? Though you believe the team is in cap trouble? See any conflict between those two statements?
 
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