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DW4 Traded to Cleveland

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I think the Saints are the most enticing for Watson from an offensive playmakers standpoint. If they lose the first year with Watson they probably have guaranteed him Sean Payton will be on speed dial. Thing is with Saints will likely never allow us to see a top 15 pick. (18 this year and probably lower in 2023 and 2024). That Carolina #6 is huge for getting a bigtime playmaker or turning into more picks.
 
SnakeEyes said:
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Before teams could meet with Deshaun Watson, the Texans approved their trade proposals

On one hand, it would make sense for the Texans to let quarterback Deshaun Watson meet with multiple suitors, allowing him to prepare a list of teams for which he'd waive his no-trade clause.
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Someone help me here. Does Watson get to pick which team he goes to? Is he aware of what each team has offered? I thought the Texans could pick between any of the teams that he would approve a trade to..
 
JRingo said:
Someone help me here. Does Watson get to pick which team he goes to? Is he aware of what each team has offered? I thought the Texans could pick between any of the teams that he would approve a trade to..
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The Texans can't trade Watson without his approval, so if Watson plays his game and say he'll only wave his NTC for one certain team, then that's the deal unless the Texans balk at it. The Texans have the final decision as to if anything happens.
 
JRingo said:
Someone help me here. Does Watson get to pick which team he goes to? Is he aware of what each team has offered? I thought the Texans could pick between any of the teams that he would approve a trade to..
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Technically Watson could waive his NTC for only one team after all the interviews. The Texans could tell Watson they want his Top 2 or 3 teams he would waive his NTC but Watson does not have to oblige.
 
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"Technically Watson could waive his NTC for only one team after all the interviews."

Just what he seems to be setting up.
And the Texans v. smart for arranging to have & approve offers before Watson interviews with the teams (if that report is true).
Suggests the whole deal is going smoothly and will be done soon.
 
Thorn said:
The Texans can't trade Watson without his approval, so if Watson plays his game and say he'll only wave his NTC for one certain team, then that's the deal unless the Texans balk at it. The Texans have the final decision as to if anything happens.
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Didn't you read his last sentence. He said "teams", plural. If Watson waves the ntc for both NO and Carolina, then the Texans can choose which of the two to go with. Correct?
 
I think the Saints are Watson's #1 option, but with so much dead money that would go on the books this season for the players that are comparable to the ones on other teams mentioned in a potential deal, how do Saints absorb that much dead money in addition to 35 million Watson incoming salary? I am trying to wrap my brain on a $50-60 million swing.
 
leebigeztx said:
C'mon man, the bank of Garrett. They have 16m of cap space now, they could convert money of Myles or restructure Watson if he really wants to come there. Not only that, someone would want Baker for 1 yr just as Wentz just got traded, Goff, as well as a slew of others who needed a qb. Its not hard
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You missed my point I do not think Watson wants to go to Cleveland. The cap space is an issue but as you said can be overcome. Cleveland? Cleveland?
 
Jack Burton said:
Man, they’ve got to get Burns and Chinn if CAR is the team. Get Sauce at 6 and in the blink of an eye, the defense is legit.
Go offense the rest of the way and get Mills weapons.
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Yep that's for me: Okwonu next to Tunsil with Garner at 6 or even better as I have Seattle trading up to 6 for QB and we take Sauce at 9.
 
Texan Guy said:
I think the Saints are Watson's #1 option, but with so much dead money that would go on the books this season for the players that are comparable to the ones on other teams mentioned in a potential deal, how do Saints absorb that much dead money in addition to 35 million Watson incoming salary? I am trying to wrap my brain on a $50-60 million swing.
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Just know when owners start talking about not being able to add players because of the cap, that they're blowing smoke up your butt.
 
Texan Guy said:
I think the Saints are Watson's #1 option, but with so much dead money that would go on the books this season for the players that are comparable to the ones on other teams mentioned in a potential deal, how do Saints absorb that much dead money in addition to 35 million Watson incoming salary? I am trying to wrap my brain on a $50-60 million swing.
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I don't WANT this to happen, but couldn't the Texans restructure Watson before a trade to NO to absorb most of his 2022 salary? They are clearing cap space for some purpose (Tunsil restructure, etc) just don't know the reason.

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Thorn said:
Probably. I'm sure there are political undertones in all this that we the public won't see or know about. Whatever happens, it can't happen soon enough for me.
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Is DW privy to what the teams have offered or is that Texans confidential?
 
Thorn said:
Probably. I'm sure there are political undertones in all this that we the public won't see or know about. Whatever happens, it can't happen soon enough for me.
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Of course there are, I referred to this in a post yesterday as to why New Orleans was the favorite, but was asked by a member I respect to take down the post, so I complied. He didn't want me to stir up a hornets nest.
 
frethack said:
I don't WANT this to happen, but couldn't the Texans restructure Watson before a trade to NO to absorb most of his 2022 salary? They are clearing cap space for some purpose (Tunsil restructure, etc) just don't know the reason.

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Watson's deal can be restructured but Saints still would be ~$3 million over so what ever is his base + the prorated signing bonus will make it worse. Nick clearing space for players coming our way. Now space is $11 million after Tunsil restructure.
 
Mr teX said:
Not surprised at all...this is him in high school..was a ball boy for them back then i believe. Aside from that, ATL is referred to as "black mecca" by most young black business professionals. He'd likely thrive there. And although Matt Ryan is still there & just restructured his deal to help the team, i could see him being shipped off in a packaged deal somewhere else to make room for DW4. Problem is they don't have much of anything player wise i'd want & i don't believe they have the draft capital either.
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Why is his left arm missing?
 
Aaron Wilson on Twitter spaces gave some insight tonight on how this trade process is working out. I don’t want to quote him incorrectly but from what I’ve gathered- each team has submitted a trade offer to come to the table to meet with Watson. A trade offer that Nick finds suitable. Once Deshaun meets with the teams, he will choose which team(s) he wants- and Nick will hammer out the final details on the trade based off the original proposal from the acquiring team. The parameters are in place.

Side note: an Indy guy(not sure how credible) is reporting that IF Deshaun were to choose Cleveland- that Cleveland would ship Baker Mayfield to Indy for their 1st rd pick and that the Indy AND the Cleveland 1st rd pick would be part of the Cleveland package.
 
Htown Legend said:
Aaron Wilson on Twitter spaces gave some insight tonight on how this trade process is working out. I don’t want to quote him incorrectly but from what I’ve gathered- each team has submitted a trade offer to come to the table to meet with Watson. A trade offer that Nick finds suitable. Once Deshaun meets with the teams, he will choose which team(s) he wants- and Nick will hammer out the final details on the trade based off the original proposal from the acquiring team. The parameters are in place.

Side note: an Indy guy(not sure how credible) is reporting that IF Deshaun were to choose Cleveland- that Cleveland would ship Baker Mayfield to Indy for their 1st rd pick and that the Indy AND the Cleveland 1st rd pick would be part of the Cleveland package.
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Indy doesn't have a 1st rd pick this yr.
 
Htown Legend said:
Aaron Wilson on Twitter spaces gave some insight tonight on how this trade process is working out. I don’t want to quote him incorrectly but from what I’ve gathered- each team has submitted a trade offer to come to the table to meet with Watson. A trade offer that Nick finds suitable. Once Deshaun meets with the teams, he will choose which team(s) he wants- and Nick will hammer out the final details on the trade based off the original proposal from the acquiring team. The parameters are in place.

Side note: an Indy guy(not sure how credible) is reporting that IF Deshaun were to choose Cleveland- that Cleveland would ship Baker Mayfield to Indy for their 1st rd pick and that the Indy AND the Cleveland 1st rd pick would be part of the Cleveland package.
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Colts don't have a round one as it went to Philly. I would think a Indy guy would know that.

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Htown Legend said:
Aaron Wilson on Twitter spaces gave some insight tonight on how this trade process is working out. I don’t want to quote him incorrectly but from what I’ve gathered- each team has submitted a trade offer to come to the table to meet with Watson. A trade offer that Nick finds suitable. Once Deshaun meets with the teams, he will choose which team(s) he wants- and Nick will hammer out the final details on the trade based off the original proposal from the acquiring team. The parameters are in place.

Side note: an Indy guy(not sure how credible) is reporting that IF Deshaun were to choose Cleveland- that Cleveland would ship Baker Mayfield to Indy for their 1st rd pick and that the Indy AND the Cleveland 1st rd pick would be part of the Cleveland package.
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I am hoping my understanding is correct: DW waives NTC for Saints & Panthers. He prefers NO. Nick does his best to get enough from NO if not he goes to Panthers and if he likes that better, trade is to Carolina. Unless some agreement unknown to us between Caserio and DW's camp say otherwise, DW has waived and is gone. He has to trust that NC likes what he can get from DW preference.
 
badboy said:
I am hoping my understanding is correct: DW waives NTC for Saints & Panthers. He prefers NO. Nick does his best to get enough from NO if not he goes to Panthers and if he likes that better, trade is to Carolina. Unless some agreement unknown to us between Caserio and DW's camp say otherwise, DW has waived and is gone. He has to trust that NC likes what he can get from DW preference.
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I think you’re on the right track- from what I interpreted from Aaron Wilson though, is that Deshaun hasn’t waived his no trade clause at all. But he’s willing to meet with these teams(NO, CAR, ATL, CLE). Each team has already put together a package of picks/players that Nick would be willing to accept. That was the requirement to allow Deshaun to meet with said teams. It’s ultimately Deshaun’s choice where he goes. But for each team he meets with, there’s the foundation of a trade already in place
 
I just can't believe we have clearly the best possible package with Carolina at least speculation-wise but this guy has final say and we may end up with a significantly worse package.

How dumb. What a dumb contract clause. NFL and NBA players are the worst. And what dumb owners for giving it to them.
 
frethack said:
I don't WANT this to happen, but couldn't the Texans restructure Watson before a trade to NO to absorb most of his 2022 salary? They are clearing cap space for some purpose (Tunsil restructure, etc) just don't know the reason.

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More likely in anticipation of bringing on some top FAs
 
badboy said:
If DW chooses Browns IMO some here going to have to reconsider that he is only interested in his brand.
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Cleveland has done great things for Baker’s brand. & LeBron would take Watson under his wing.

we can spin anything
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
If this is the terms of a Saints trade, not impressed.

2022 NFL Mock Draft: Saints make monster trade for Deshaun Watson, Seahawks pick Malik Willis
The largest domino on the quarterback market falls in this mock draft
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Good thing this guy is playing fantasy GM like many do here. The biggest thing I wish to see is the three first spread over three years. That is the gift that keeps on giving in terms of draft capital or to use for elite talent.
 
Texian said:
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CloakNNNdagger said:
If this is the terms of a Saints trade, not impressed.

2022 NFL Mock Draft: Saints make monster trade for Deshaun Watson, Seahawks pick Malik Willis
The largest domino on the quarterback market falls in this mock draft
Chris Trapasso

By Chris Trapasso

11 mins ago1 min read
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Interesting mock.
I like the Burks pick further down the board at #18 but will Texans choose Walker over Thibodeaux at #3?
 
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