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DW4 Traded to Cleveland

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Texian said:
Thinking out loud: Watson could tell Carolina he wants Tunsil as part of the deal to protect his blind side. Carolina can easily pay for it by cutting/trading Darnold. My question is how far into the future can a team trade away it's 1st RD draft picks? If it's 4 years or more they could do it. That would be 2022,2023,2024,2025 Panthers 1st RD picks.
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Nothing wrong with thinking. I could see replacing Cameron Erving at left tackle with Tunsil. The issue as you note is what can we get for him from Panthers. 3 round ones for Watson so how about 3 round twos beginning in 2023 or bringing in another starter such as Xavier Woods or Derrick Brown.
 
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Looking like we could have a three way bidding war. Atlanta may be Watson's top choice, but Carolina seeming may be the most passionate about making a deal. As long as Watson doesn't nix any of the three, this is going to work in the Texans favor. We may see Carolina really sweeten the pot. Has anyone seen any reports how strong Atlanta's interest may be?
 
Number19 said:
Looking like we could have a three way bidding war. Atlanta may be Watson's top choice, but Carolina seeming may be the most passionate about making a deal. As long as Watson doesn't nix any of the three, this is going to work in the Texans favor. We may see Carolina really sweeten the pot. Has anyone seen any reports how strong Atlanta's interest may be?
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ATL has no chance...unless they do something really, really stupid...which i can't see them doing.
 
Number19 said:
Looking like we could have a three way bidding war. Atlanta may be Watson's top choice, but Carolina seeming may be the most passionate about making a deal. As long as Watson doesn't nix any of the three, this is going to work in the Texans favor. We may see Carolina really sweeten the pot. Has anyone seen any reports how strong Atlanta's interest may be?
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badboy said:
We wanted a bidding war and perhaps we're going to get one I still hope Carolina wins out based on what I want from them.
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Couldn’t Watson opt to go to the team with the potential lesser offering package?

He still holds that NTC.

Or has it been waived already to the teams he wants to visit that Caserio gets to choose? I doubt that.
 
TexansBull said:
I wonder how Ricky would have done if he hadn’t been punished for smoking marijuana? Maybe that did help him with his mental health. It has been suggested as much in recent studies and application.

It helps players now that the NFL has relaxed is drug testing policies.
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There's a recent interview with Ricky on the Pivot Podcast that is fantastic.

Back to the Watson trade, I'm in wait and see mode, as well. As someone that was ready to see him traded for just one 1st round pick, I'm optimistic at this point that it appears that Caserio will get much more to work with once it's said and done.

And the team that gets Watson will have very little to build with after that. :evil:
 
badboy said:
You and Deja Vu should go back and read the article from sobleski that you quoted. At the end it said where would Cleveland go and I replied 1.6. I think if we get the six pick from Carolina that it could be flipped for a substantial package.
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Sorry I didn’t see that. Is Sobleski a sausage company in Elgin?
 
mussop said:
So it was just now reported that Deshaun Watson himself reached out to the Falcons. I would think that would make them the favorites. I want number eight Kyle Pitts and I want both or second round picks
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What do they do with Ryan's toxic contract? So with Ridley on the shelf and Pitts to Houston who would DW4 throw to?
 
Does anyone know if since Watson has met with these teams does that mean he has waived the ntc for those teams? My apologies if this has already been answered.
 
TexansBull said:
Couldn’t Watson opt to go to the team with the potential lesser offering package?

He still holds that NTC.

Or has it been waived already to the teams he wants to visit that Caserio gets to choose? I doubt that.
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Sure but of the three significant trading partners Atlanta, Saints and Panthers only the latter appears to be able to absorb his 35 million cap hit. I am not saying those teams cannot create cap space I just don't see it being very realistic. For example the Browns could ship us Amari Cooper but why would Watson want that? I still think Nick Caserio is keeping his mouth shut and has time on his side.
 
The1ApplePie said:
I'm not a big believer in Mills, but if he develops, that would be ideal. No idea who the great QBs are in 2023. 2022 looks pretty bad right now, so 2023 should be the target.
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CJ Stroud of Ohio State a redshirt freshman and from Alabama Bryce Young 2021 Heisman Trophy winner. I have Stroud ranked ahead.
 
Number19 said:
Looking like we could have a three way bidding war. Atlanta may be Watson's top choice, but Carolina seeming may be the most passionate about making a deal. As long as Watson doesn't nix any of the three, this is going to work in the Texans favor. We may see Carolina really sweeten the pot. Has anyone seen any reports how strong Atlanta's interest may be?
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This the dream scenario for our GM because it's not just multiple teams bidding against each other for Watson, but they are all also in the same division.
 
badboy said:
Arrogance? Why isn't that just good business sense his part?
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Perhaps it's two sides of the same coin?

If every superstar player acted like this, the NFL would implode and fold almost overnight. The collective egos would create such a gravitational vortex that it would be damn near impossible to field teams as players sat on their asses and collected free money.

There is a reason why this is such a huge story in the national media. It is extremely rare for a young QB of his talent level to pull such a diva move. I cannot think of anyone else that acted this way just four months after signing a mega-deal that guaranteed $110 million.

But, if this becomes a trend, I'd expect the next CBA to have some major changes to it in favor of the billionaires.
 
Number19 said:
Indy is desperate for a qb. What I heard on 610 is that Indy would immediately become a playoff contender with Ryan as their qb. So, I would imagine they could take on all or part of the dead money.
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That's not how dead money works. Atlanta would have to eat it. That's the only way AFAIK.
 
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