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pirbroke said:
Do we have room to absorb bakers contract? I don’t mind taking him on and then cutting him if we can for another Cleveland 1st round pick. they can give us their 2025 first or 2030, whatever they have left, lol.


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At approximately 25 million of cap space we do have the ability to absorb his 18 million dollars. But I do not think that is worth a first-round pick especially one so far in the future
 
pirbroke said:
Do we have room to absorb bakers contract? I don’t mind taking him on and then cutting him if we can for another Cleveland 1st round pick. they can give us their 2025 first or 2030, whatever they have left, lol.


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NFL rules state you can only trade picks up to 3 years in the future so Brown s can't trade any more 1st round picks till next year anyway.
 
Baker is trash & NFL front offices know it. All hes doing with his camp is making it harder for the Browns to do anything with him but cut him & eat his salary. NO TEAM wants a malcontent and by him & his camp doing all this blabbering, he’s in essence giving creedence to why the Browns wanted to move on from him in the 1st place.

He just needs to shut up, sit tight, & wait. At worst, hes gonna get paid nearly 20 mil to do nothing…like the guy brought in to supplant him did last year.
 
If Mayfield is forced to play in 2022, his salary is fully guaranteed. That means that if he claims a back injury, his salary is guaranteed for injury.............and he must be paid while he thumbs his nose at the Browns. :pop:
 
NFL Insider Makes Prediction For Deshaun Watson Suspension

Though he was cleared of all criminal charges in a grand jury hearing earlier this year, Deshaun Watson will still almost certainly face a suspension to start the 2022 NFL season.

This past year, the three-time Pro-Bowl quarterback was the subject of more than 20 allegations of sexual assault and misconduct. While his criminal charges were dropped, he still faces multiple civil lawsuits.

Watson earned his full salary this past season despite not playing a single game. This coming season, the Cleveland Browns worked his contract to minimize monetary damage from any potential early-season suspension.

With this in mind, NFL insider Jason La Canfora of CBS Sports believes the NFL will issue a lengthy suspension to start the 2022 season.

He predicts that Watson will play fewer than eight games this coming season.

"Better to appear to be taking these allegations very seriously than not seriously enough, he got a full salary not to play last year and won't lose much no matter how long he is suspended this year. Thus the only way to signal intent is with the length of the penalty. I expect it to be considerable," La Canfora writes.

Watson signed a five-year, fully-guaranteed $230 million deal with the Browns earlier this offseason.
Clearly the Cleveland organization isn't too concerned about a possible suspension to start the year.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
Cleveland, we have a problem..........another problem.

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Baker Mayfield reportedly lost part of locker room after Odell Beckham Jr. left
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I suspect the Texans will be receiving a top 10 pick from the Browns. Maybe both years. We’ve seen this show before. Lack of leadership from top on down. And the Browns have seen it before too. No way this doesn’t end in team implosion propelling the Texans to multiple premium picks! Browns will always Brown.

Whether the Texans take advantage or repeat the same mistakes we’ve been accustomed to now is another matter…
 
Even if you can believe the narrow reference to Mary Cabot and the potential Mayfield trade issues, despite numerous contrary independent reports of how the owners feel about Watson's contract and the Browns organization, the Title of the article in no way reflects the wide conclusion it implies.

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Deshaun Watson contract upsetting other teams unsurprisingly a bogus theory
by Eddie McDonald41 seconds ago Follow @KingEdward15

The rumblings of NFL owners being mad at the Cleveland Browns for the contract they gave Deshaun Watson simply are not true

The fate of the Cleveland Browns and potentially the entire NFL changed back in March when the team traded for quarterback Deshaun Watson. The reason it will impact the NFL is the fact that the Browns gave Watson a fully guaranteed $230 million contract.

In the future, don’t be surprised to see more deals like this get done with the most important position in all of team sports, the quarterback.

With the addition of Watson, the Browns elected to move on from Baker Mayfield, which had been pretty apparent for quite some time. Cleveland has been unable to find a trade partner, who will enter his fifth professional season with a guaranteed contract of $18.86 million.

There is a narrative going around that the other 31 NFL owners are mad at the Browns for giving Watson the contract they did, and in turn, that’s the reason a team hasn’t traded for Mayfield. According to Mary Kay Cabot of Cleveland.com, that narrative simply isn’t true and is “off base.”


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It’s untrue that teams won’t trade for Mayfield because of Watson contract

The narrative that the Browns are stuck with Mayfield because teams don’t want to do business with them in the wake of their NFL-record fully guaranteed $230 million contract for Deshaun Watson is off base.


The reason Mayfield is still on the roster is because of his $18.86 million salary and not because teams are stonewalling the Browns following the richest and first fully guaranteed contract in NFL history, league sources told cleveland.com.

Granted, there are some teams that didn’t love Watson’s blockbuster contract, and Ravens owner Stephen J. Bisciotti said as much during the NFL annual meeting last month. But it’s not the reason Mayfield is still around.

Teams don’t want to pick up his contract, hoping he will be cut and they can get him on the cheap. But Mayfield drew interest from a handful of franchises, and the Browns engaged in trade talks with the Panthers throughout the weekend. They also executed draft-weekend trades with the Texans, Vikings and Rams, and had discussions with multiple other teams.

The notion that a team would eschew a QB upgrade just to punish the Browns makes no sense, and the events of last weekend debunk it. Teams may come calling again for Mayfield over the next few weeks as teams take stock of their QB rooms.
 
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leebigeztx said:

Enjoy lol
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I especially liked the healthy weight gain program for the linemen (Nick Harris ~2:30)................little wonder these players end up having serious heart, artery hardening, high blood pressure and diabetes problems.:shades:

The "flicker follies" mistep highlights will probably be repeated during the regular season.
 
NFL: Deshaun Watson’s ongoing review ‘played no factor in the scheduling of Browns games’
Updated: May. 13, 2022, 8:58 p.m. | Published: May. 13, 2022, 8:46 p.m.
By Mary Kay Cabot, cleveland.com


CLEVELAND, Ohio -- If you didn’t know any better, you might think the NFL did the Browns a favor and gave them a presumably soft early part of the schedule in case Deshaun Watson is suspended for violating the Personal Conduct Policy.

But not so, says the league.

“There’s an ongoing review,’’ NFL spokesman Brian McCarthy told cleveland.com. “We do not have a timeline. The ongoing review played no factor in the scheduling of Browns games.’'


McCarthy’s statements confirmed what NFL Vice President of Broadcast Scheduling Mike North told Adam Schein of Sirius XM Mad Dog Radio on Friday. North also left open that a decision on Watson’s possible suspension in connection with 24 massage therapists accusing him of sexual misconduct during appointments might not happen until next season.

“The honest answer to your question is no,’’ North said of whether or Watson’s situation played a role. “None of us know. None of us knows if he’s going to be all year, if he’s not going to be here at all. None of us knows what’s going to happen at all, and it might not happen this year. I don’t know enough about the legal system, but we could be a year or two away from all of these things finally settling.



“And as you look at the Cleveland schedule, you see that they have a national television game in Week 3, a national television game in Week 8, an opportunity to be back on national television on NFL Network in the Saturday pool in Week 15, so there’s a game in the first third, a game in the middle, a game in the last third. No idea what’s going to happen. I don’t know anything more than you do at this point. So the honest answer to your question is we really didn’t think about it.”
What the NFL did think about was the Browns vs. the Texans — the team that traded Watson to Cleveland amid his legal issues — and keeping it out of Week 1.

“We knew that Houston and Cleveland were obviously going to play each other this year, and Cleveland at Houston is going to mean something,” North said. “I’ll be honest with you, we did see a schedule somewhere along the hundreds of thousands that we looked at this year where that game was in Week Number 1.


“And I’m just not sure that would’ve been the right place for it. That’s maybe not the right, you know, game that we want all eyes on, attention on, taking attention away from some of these other big tentpoles in Week 1. So other than maybe really just thinking about where that actual Cleveland at Houston game fell, there really wasn’t a lot of attention paid because, honestly, none of us knows what’s going to happen.”

The Browns’ first four games are at Carolina, at home against the Jets, at home vs. the Steelers on Thursday Night Football and at the Falcons. The quartet features only one 2021 playoff team in the Steelers, and a combined victory total last season of 25 games for an average of just over six per team.

If Watson is suspended for six games — an arbitrary number at this point — he’ll undoubtedly appeal and try to get it reduced. If he misses the first four games, the Browns, who went 8-9 last season and missed the playoffs, could still win all or most of them with backup Jacoby Brissett. The last time they started 4-0 was 1979.

Watson is in the midst of being deposed in some of his 22 civil suits, with more hearings coming in late June. Lawyers for both sides have agreed not to go to trial from Aug. 1 to Mar. 1, but the NFL will determine any sanctions independent of the civil suits.

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If you didn't know any better............The NFL Browns schedule OF COURSE was not influenced by Watson's situation..............if you didn't know any better............
 
Browns sign QB Felix Harper after rookie minicamp tryout
Jared Mueller
Sun, May 15, 2022, 12:14 PM·1 min read


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The two biggest stories of the Cleveland Browns offseason have revolved around quarterbacks. The pursuit of Deshaun Watson caused Baker Mayfield to request a trade. The acquisition of Watson, with his pending civil lawsuits, has created both excitement and consternation while Mayfield remains on the team’s roster.

The Browns also signed Jacoby Brissett and added Josh Dobbs to the quarterback room.

Among the list of undrafted free agents brought in for a tryout was another quarterback, Felix Harper. The Alcorn State product has spent time this offseason working out under the guidance of Quincy Avery alongside former Cleveland QB Tyrod Taylor and Watson.

Harper was in attendance for the team’s rookie minicamp but was not among the 12 undrafted players signed prior. Sunday, the team announced that they have now signed him to the roster:
Harper (5-10, 180) is an undrafted rookie out Alcorn State. He led the Alcorn football team to a 6-2 SWAC record in 2021, completing 191 passes for 2,489 yards and 20 passing touchdowns. A native of Fairburn, Ga., Harper posted a 147.1 QBR on the year.
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The left-handed throwing Harper provides the Browns another arm to use in camp and a chance to see if he can develop. It is unlikely he will make the team’s 53-man roster but could fight for a spot on the practice squad.

With the signing of Harper, Cleveland currently has 88 members signed to their 90-man roster. If Andrew Berry wants to bring in more than two other free agents, a contracted player will have to be cut.
 
Doubt that Harper is a serious competitor for even the PS. Comes from weak competition. Has a relatively weak arm. And never a great idea to have a left-handed QB as a backup with a right-handed starter. Not really sure of the wisdom of taking him even as a camp arm.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
Honestly? First 4 games are pitted against weak teams......and the game against the Texans are scheduled near the end of the season.........honestly? And if the Browns Texans game was purposely manipulated, how can one possibly believe the others weren't?
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I personally believed the guy when he said on NFLN that the only consideration was that the game did not occur week 1. They didn't want it to become the news and over shadow many of the other great gamelines. Week 2 or 3 would have been fine
 
Poor bookies!! Poor NFL!! Poor Browns!!

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NFL’s betting partners surely would like to have a Deshaun Watson decision, too
May 17, 2022, 7:25 PM EDT

Beyond the Browns, their opponents, and their fans, there’s another key constituency that would like to know whether quarterback Deshaun Watson will miss any, some, or all of the games to be played in 2022.
The NFL’s seven sports betting partners.

They want to take bets. They want to make money from taking bets. With Watson’s status unknown, key Browns bets aren’t on the board. For example, PointsBet still doesn’t offer an over/under win total for Cleveland, or a bet on whether the Browns make the playoffs, or fail to do so.

For some reason, however, bets can be placed on the Browns to win the AFC North, where they are co-favorites with the Ravens at +200.

Whether it’s PointsBet or FanDuel or DraftKings or any of the other four NFL sports betting partners, the sooner Watson’s status is know, the sooner these various sports books can start making money from bets placed for, or against, the Browns.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
Honestly? First 4 games are pitted against weak teams......and the game against the Texans are scheduled near the end of the season.........honestly? And if the Browns Texans game was purposely manipulated, how can one possibly believe the others weren't?

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troy43mvp says:
May 18, 2022 at 12:38 am
I know Mike Florio and Peter King have said the schedule makers have not led any bread crumbs that tell how long Watson will be suspended for, but I disagree. If you look at the Browns schedule they have all division rivals playing the Browns in the first 8 games and then all division rivals playing 3 of the last 5 games of the season. Last year they had the Bengals playing Browns twice in the first 7 games and the rest scattered. The way it looks this year is they’re thinking if it’s an 8 game suspension all rivals will play Cleveland in the 2nd half of the season. Full season suspension it won’t matter and either way if it happens at all in 2022 with Watson only getting one million paid to him that first year on a record breaking guaranteed deal, well quite frankly that is a legitimate show of financial favoritism. Many past players that were suspended in the past have a right to ask why they weren’t allowed to rework a deal that minimizes their suspension money being taken. NFL either needs to wait on the suspension and drag it out (much like they did with deflate gate) or suspend him a minimum of 1 or 2 games for each case settled.
 
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