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Do we have a Super Bowl team or not?

Yeah, but let's also remember since then he's 0-2 against the Texans (combined score of 66-16) throwing four picks and no TD's and posting passer ratings of 48.3 and 41.4. And those two games were against defenses coordinated by Richard Smith and Frank Bush.

A shiver just ran up my spine.

The Buffalo fans could be right.
 
I sure wish Tate was healthy.

I just hope Kubiak has enough faith to let Forsett take serious carries off Foster, and introduce Grimes when the game is already won.

I believe we're in more of a talent management portion of our schedule, it's important to rotate reps through this part of the season to make sure we win games and stay healthy.

Not to mention we're on a short week next week as well, but get an extra half week going into the following matchup, like a mini second bye I see it, 2 very winnable games so hopefully we can get out in front and rest our starters at least a little later on in both games before coming back for a tough-ish looking run-in, Pats & Bears plus 2 games against the Colts who look like an improving outfit as the season wears on.
 
I just hope Kubiak has enough faith to let Forsett take serious carries off Foster, and introduce Grimes when the game is already won.

I believe we're in more of a talent management portion of our schedule, it's important to rotate reps through this part of the season to make sure we win games and stay healthy.

Not to mention we're on a short week next week as well, but get an extra half week going into the following matchup, like a mini second bye I see it, 2 very winnable games so hopefully we can get out in front and rest our starters at least a little later on in both games before coming back for a tough-ish looking run-in, Pats & Bears plus 2 games against the Colts who look like an improving outfit as the season wears on.
My thoughts also. Let's see if Forsett can keep that 5 yard average with more attempts. I will be watching for Grimes to get some plays. Will he be active?
 
My thoughts also. Let's see if Forsett can keep that 5 yard average with more attempts. I will be watching for Grimes to get some plays. Will he be active?

I'm guessing Grimes will be since we've always dressed 3 RBs. I think Forsett will get carries if he can do something on the field. His last outing with Tate out, he averaged less than 1 ypc. We need big production from the bench. Foster is getting way too many reps. And if all goes to planned, we end up running a lot in the second half.
 
Yes, but they have to play a lot better in the second half. A lof of tough games coming up starting with a battle of two 7-1 teams in Chicago next Sunday Night. They can probably afford to lose another game against an NFC team and still get the 1st seed in the AFC, but this is a big statement game coming up. If we lose the haters and national media will say the Texans can't beat a good NFC team. I would almost call this game in Chicago a must win game just because of how horrible they looked against the Packers in their last primetime game.
 
Yes, but they have to play a lot better in the second half. A lof of tough games coming up starting with a battle of two 7-1 teams in Chicago next Sunday Night. They can probably afford to lose another game against an NFC team and still get the 1st seed in the AFC, but this is a big statement game coming up. If we lose the haters and national media will say the Texans can't beat a good NFC team. I would almost call this game in Chicago a must win game just because of how horrible they looked against the Packers in their last primetime game.

Agreed. I think the Texans can win, but I think they can win every game. I'd like to see them roll into Chicago and put a Ravens like beat down on 'em but I really don't expect it. I just don't want to be embarrassed again on Sunday night.
 
Forsett looked so-so & I did not see Grimes. If our younger WRs (Jean, Posey & Martin) do not step up, we better go high for another RB to take some weight off Foster. I do not see a playmaking WR falling to us. I am still ambivalent about Terrence Willams from Baylor. His stats are good but just don't see what I want to in his play to take him first round.
 
Yes, but they have to play a lot better in the second half. A lof of tough games coming up starting with a battle of two 7-1 teams in Chicago next Sunday Night. They can probably afford to lose another game against an NFC team and still get the 1st seed in the AFC, but this is a big statement game coming up. If we lose the haters and national media will say the Texans can't beat a good NFC team. I would almost call this game in Chicago a must win game just because of how horrible they looked against the Packers in their last primetime game.
I think the Texans match up well against the Bears. We do everything well that they struggle against. Call me crazy, but I think Foster will have a big game receiving the ball. Screens will eat their pass rush up and that will open up things down the field against their secondary.

The Bear's OL doesn't stand a chanceagainst our front 7 and Cutler will revert to form and proceed to singlehandedly lose the game for them. Instead of Custard pie, Watt will be eating a Cutler pie burrito. Wow that sounds gross.
 
Forsett looked so-so & I did not see Grimes. If our younger WRs (Jean, Posey & Martin) do not step up, we better go high for another RB to take some weight off Foster. I do not see a playmaking WR falling to us. I am still ambivalent about Terrence Willams from Baylor. His stats are good but just don't see what I want to in his play to take him first round.

I expected to see our OL take a big step this week after the bye. I thought we'd see Duan Brown, the Baddest Man Alive, instead... he was eh... The line looked better than they have, I think they're still improving, but they're not where I thought they'd be by now.

If they don't have it together by December, where we can run the clock out on anybody (we play Tennessee, New England, Indy, & Minnesota in December.... a fairly good test), then I don't see a Super Bowl, or even an AFC Championship game for us.

It was nice to see Arian Foster find some big holes, it would have been nice to see what Ben Tate could have done in his relief. I think we controlled the L.O.S. but we didn't blow them off the ball & that's where we need to be.
 
I think the Texans match up well against the Bears. We do everything well that they struggle against. Call me crazy, but I think Foster will have a big game receiving the ball. Screens will eat their pass rush up and that will open up things down the field against their secondary.

The Bear's OL doesn't stand a chanceagainst our front 7 and Cutler will revert to form and proceed to singlehandedly lose the game for them. Instead of Custard pie, Watt will be eating a Cutler pie burrito. Wow that sounds gross.

Except the Bears & Forte are pretty good at running screens as well & we're not the best at sniff'n them out. We've been better this year than in the past, we shut down Ray Rice. The Bears & Forte is a different animal.
 
Except the Bears & Forte are pretty good at running screens as well & we're not the best at sniff'n them out. We've been better this year than in the past, we shut down Ray Rice. The Bears & Forte is a different animal.

i'm personally more scared of the ravens offense than the bears, just sayin
 
Except the Bears & Forte are pretty good at running screens as well & we're not the best at sniff'n them out. We've been better this year than in the past, we shut down Ray Rice. The Bears & Forte is a different animal.
Just play like we play. Build a lead and shut them down as they try to come back. Jay Cutler is entirely to fragile to withstand the Texans pass rush and thrive. His confidence is based on his last pass. The SWATT Patrol will reduce that confidence. They don't run a spread offense like the Packers or Bills. The Bears are the Eagles with a good defense. They hurt bad defensive teams but good defensive teams can shut them down. There is no reason the Texans should fear them.
 
Just play like we play. Build a lead and shut them down as they try to come back.

Completely agree with this. Another thing, we need to be stingy with the ball. Hold on to it for 6 minute drives & cap them off with a score.

Choppin wood.
 
Completely agree with this. Another thing, we need to be stingy with the ball. Hold on to it for 6 minute drives & cap them off with a score.

Choppin wood.
The Texans are the stingiest in the league in that area. I'd like to see a comparison between the 39-5 record with 30+ rushing attempts and winning the battle of the clock. Wanna bet on a correlation?
 
The Texans are the stingiest in the league in that area. I'd like to see a comparison between the 39-5 record with 30+ rushing attempts and winning the battle of the clock. Wanna bet on a correlation?

That would be a fair conclusion. You don't run 30 plus times and have a low TOP
 
I expected to see our OL take a big step this week after the bye. I thought we'd see Duan Brown, the Baddest Man Alive, instead... he was eh... The line looked better than they have, I think they're still improving, but they're not where I thought they'd be by now.

If they don't have it together by December, where we can run the clock out on anybody (we play Tennessee, New England, Indy, & Minnesota in December.... a fairly good test), then I don't see a Super Bowl, or even an AFC Championship game for us.

It was nice to see Arian Foster find some big holes, it would have been nice to see what Ben Tate could have done in his relief. I think we controlled the L.O.S. but we didn't blow them off the ball & that's where we need to be.
I guess I am the sole cheerleader for Oline (Jones over Caldwell for now). We beat Balti and pretty much handled Bills and you know who. Bears should be another step one way or the other. If Colts beat us it will not be their defense. If we beat Chicago & Pats we win out UNLESS Kubes decides to rest starters against Indy. 15-1. I am a bit more optimistic than you.
 
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The Texans are the stingiest in the league in that area. I'd like to see a comparison between the 39-5 record with 30+ rushing attempts and winning the battle of the clock. Wanna bet on a correlation?

I'd bet the 39-5 record speaks more to how well Kubiak's vaunted turtle works at running out the clock with a lead than anything else, and yeh, that would likely translate to a gaudy TOP stat as well.

Think the stat is more of an end-based stat than a means-based stat however. Kubiak can be quite quick to start throwing it around in all situations from behind as well, we just arent that used to seeing it because we've only lost what? 3 meaningful games in the last calender year, & no I'm not going to count the tacks game at the end of last season or any other bumbling backup-laden baffoonery that went on once our seed was locked at the end of last season.
 
Foster will be rode hard this game. Hope he doesn't fumble. I doubt Grimes gets more than a play or two if that.
 
10-1 and we should only have Patriots to worry about IF Wade can keep duct taping the defense together. Colts last game could be interesting if coaches rest some starters.
Hopefully Tate will not only remain healthy but be productive allowing Foster some down time. Joseph will be rested in Tenn but I see him with groin issue throughout season. Sure wish I felt more optimistic about Brandon Harris.
 
10-1 and we should only have Patriots to worry about IF Wade can keep duct taping the defense together. Colts last game could be interesting if coaches rest some starters.
Hopefully Tate will not only remain healthy but be productive allowing Foster some down time. Joseph will be rested in Tenn but I see him with groin issue throughout season. Sure wish I felt more optimistic about Brandon Harris.

Just my opinion, but Jonathan Joseph should not see the field till Minnesota, then only spot duty to see how he feels. I wouldn't have him do anything that might aggravate his groin until after our bye week in the play-offs.
 
i'm personally more scared of the ravens offense than the bears, just sayin

The Ravens offense is not all that great. Texans already beat them once, and the Chargers shut them down pretty well this weekend. Flacco's only really had Ray Rice to throw to in short dump offs, and Torrey Smith. Just stop the bomb to Smith and hit Rice hard, and AFC Championship game should go like last game against the Ravens.
 
The Ravens offense is not all that great. Texans already beat them once, and the Chargers shut them down pretty well this weekend. Flacco's only really had Ray Rice to throw to in short dump offs, and Torrey Smith. Just stop the bomb to Smith and hit Rice hard, and AFC Championship game should go like last game against the Ravens.

Except if the Ravens are as clawless as you suggest, they won't be in the AFC Championship game.
 
The Ravens offense is not all that great. Texans already beat them once, and the Chargers shut them down pretty well this weekend. Flacco's only really had Ray Rice to throw to in short dump offs, and Torrey Smith. Just stop the bomb to Smith and hit Rice hard, and AFC Championship game should go like last game against the Ravens.

Except if the Ravens are as clawless as you suggest, they won't be in the AFC Championship game.

Baltimore's offense boils down to home field advantage - period. Through 11 games, they're scoring average is 16.5 points per game on the road and 36.8 points per game at home. That's almost a three TD difference.

If they go in as the #2 seed, they've got a very good chance of making it to the AFC Championship game. I'd very much prefer not to think about them getting the top seed and having to go to Baltimore in January again.
 
Just my opinion, but Jonathan Joseph should not see the field till Minnesota, then only spot duty to see how he feels. I wouldn't have him do anything that might aggravate his groin until after our bye week in the play-offs.
What is different now than when they played him a few weeks ago? I am not disagreeing with you but historically this season they have put him back on field as soon as possible. The defense is even weaker now than back then so it seems Wade will play him sooner than later. i would also think the coaches would desperately want a first week bye.
 
What is different now than when they played him a few weeks ago? I am not disagreeing with you but historically this season they have put him back on field as soon as possible. The defense is even weaker now than back then so it seems Wade will play him sooner than later. i would also think the coaches would desperately want a first week bye.

I was saying we should sit him a while back, make sure his groin heels & doesn't cause further issues that would jeopardize his ability to go later in the season. If it were me, he'd have played sparingly over the month of November to prepare him for the stretch we're about to go through.

We may be lucky that it is happening now, with a 10-1 record. Hopefully we can win 3 of the next 2, then get Jjo & Reed back in time to finish what we started (assuming we get Cody & Dobbins back in that time as well).
 
KJac has proven that he can cover the #1 WR, let JJo rest till we play a team with a true #1 WR

I agree that we should be able to afford a little rest to Jjo. However, I'm not sold on Kj being able to cover #1s just yet. He did a fine job against Calvin Johnson, but he wasn't "really" tested.

When teams get desperate, like Greenbay was when we played them, they were desperate & I think Rogers new that he was going to have to give his receivers an opportunity to make a play. They made those plays everytime against Kj. 5 for 5 or whatever it was. I think Kj is an excellent cover guy, but he doesn't challenge the ball well, mainly because he can't locate it.

That's something he has to improve on if he's going to play the #1 with consistency.

Detroit had a comfy lead throughout that game. There was no reason for Stafford to test Kj when the rest of the field was easy pickings.

I'm a Kj fan, but I'm not blind. He's not #1 worthy yet.
 
Bumping this thread back up. I didn't see it tonight, and I'm really worried about the Colts.
 
Bumping this thread back up. I didn't see it tonight, and I'm really worried about the Colts.

I'll just quote myself from early in the season.

No. The OL is bad. It's going to be exposed every time they play a very good team, which is to say, they probably won't make it through the playoffs. I guess there's the "time to gel" theory, but 6 games in, Caldwell looked as awful as I've ever seen in the early part, and they can't even decide which guys they want to play on the right side. The LG is not doing so great either.
 
We got this.

When we win the Super Bowl & the rest of us are saying I never doubted, remember some of you doubted.

In 2001, the Patriots lost 5 games & probably had no idea what was coming.
 
We got this.

When we win the Super Bowl & the rest of us are saying I never doubted, remember some of you doubted.

In 2001, the Patriots lost 5 games & probably had no idea what was coming.

I still believe in this team. So you can count me in as someone who never doubted.

Seen crazier things happen then this.
 
I wonder what it felt like to be a Colts fan the season they won the Super Bowl at week 14.

Heck, we were an 8-8 team & were the last team to beat them that year.
 
We got this.

When we win the Super Bowl & the rest of us are saying I never doubted, remember some of you doubted.

In 2001, the Patriots lost 5 games & probably had no idea what was coming.

I doubted. I doubt.

I won't say I Wasn't a doubter. I'll just say I'm shocked and pleasantly surprised.
 
You know, Young or Dilfer made a great point about it.

Just a year or three ago the Pats smacked around the Jets in the regular season...we know what happen in the post season...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcRESwCSU3w

this game should help them understand how important it is to get HFThroughout.

I know the Packers beat us at home. But right now it's the only card we hold (& we still hold that card) to change this game. We can't feel good about going to New England in January.
 
There is still time to get the defense back on track, but the last 4 weeks have been brutal. They can't win a playoff game, much less a super bowl with the way they've been playing.

Giving Foster his big payday and dumping Winston is looking worse every day. The O-line just looks bad at times and gets manhandled way too often. It affects everything else we want to do on offense.

I'm not going to jump off a cliff over a stinker, but this team has some problems right now.
 
In an era were people would rather make the "bold" more likely prediction that the Texans won't go all the way... I'd like to buck that trend.

Fact is, you aren't smart if that's what you are predicting. There is a 1 in 32 and by playoff time, a 1 in 12 chance of winning the Superbowl, so the odds are ever not in you favor.

Can't stand the ficklness. Makes me sick to my damn stomach and makes me want to punch someone in theirs because of it. F'n fairweather Houston fans... I bet half of you jumped off the Rockets bandwagon too when they went down 3-1 to the Suns...
 
There is still time to get the defense back on track, but the last 4 weeks have been brutal. They can't win a playoff game, much less a super bowl with the way they've been playing.

I'd like to think so, but I'm not seeing it. If we're going to keep throwing the same guys out there, we're not going to get any pass rush. Barwin..... it ain't happening. They don't feel like Braman is going to help.

I wish there was an elite pass-rusher out there looking for a job, but somehow I doubt it.
 
I don't think a lot of you know what a bandwagon is. Those of us that have been around since the beginning and have invested both emotionally and monetarily have the right to *****. Identifying problems and bitching about them is what fans of teams do when they aren't happy. And how do you make fans happy so that they don't *****? You win. You win the games that matter. When you suck, you can get away with just winning. When you're supposed to be the best team in the AFC, then you win the games against the other best teams. It's really not that complicated.

When your team loses a meaningful game and you just sort of shrug it off, then you probably aren't emotionally invested enough to be on any bandwagon to begin with. If you criticize the fans that are passionate enough to demand perfection and ***** when they don't get it, then you just don't know WTF you're talking about. But at least maybe you care.

Don't question people's fandom. It's disrespectful for one, and even more, it just makes you look like an imbecile.

This isn't directed at anyone in particular; it just always comes up after a big loss when the really passionate fans start sniping each other. In case you hadn't noticed, take a look at some join dates on this board and think back to those teams. Then consider that most of those old timers came over from the board migration, so in actuality have been a part of this FAN community from the start.
 
Eh, there are realistically only 3 contenders in the AFC - Texans, Broncos and Pats. We have beaten one of them and got crushed by the other. Not a bad place to be.

Furthermore, unless we implode, we are going to have a bye - meaning we will only be two tough wins from a Super Bowl (still likely both games would be at Reliant).

Clearly we are not a very good team right now but we have time to pull things together...and I think we will do just that.
 
I knew that right side of our O-line was horrible coming in the game, but I didn't it was this catastrophic. I blame this game heavily on the right guard and tackle. Getting blown up by Wilfork was one thing, not sliding to pickup blitz by LB's is unacceptable.
 
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