THIS.I want to see what Mills can do with a run game and being well protected before I can begin to pass judgement on his play. Right now I'm glad that he's a smart QB (Well advanced seeing how little he's played, Thanks Pep) who has an above avg arm and throws with accuracy/anticipation.
Right now I would say his floor is Dalton
His ceiling is Rivers.
Welcome to the board and I hope you take this the way I mean it but I really hope the picture is not you? I believe DM has improved significantly last part of season and I look forward to more. It would be a concern if Pep takes a job elsewhere.Everyone wants to debate his ceiling and honestly I see Tannehill is where he will land. I wonder if that is good enough?
Mills has had quite a few passes this year that should have been picks. I'm not trying to knock Mills or anything, he out played my expectations by a country mile. however, the truth is the truth, and at the end of the day Rivers is one of the most underrated QBs in my life time.THIS.
I see Phillip Rivers without the picks hopefully.
And I’m good with that.
WelcomeEveryone wants to debate his ceiling and honestly I see Tannehill is where he will land. I wonder if that is good enough?
Welcome to the boardGood enough to stop us from looking for better options. Really depends how long the rebuild takes and how he looks next year
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Well, we will see. He has all the physical and downfield ability Rivers had.Mills has had quite a few passes this year that should have been picks. I'm not trying to knock Mills or anything, he out played my expectations by a country mile. however, the truth is the truth, and at the end of the day Rivers is one of the most underrated QBs in my life time.
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I don't really know how this forum works, so if I'm responding to a bot forgive me guys haha, but yeah I found this place recently and I'm trying to move away from the Texans subreddit which has gotten a bit toxic recently.Welcome to the board
Looking forward to more of your thoughts on how the rebuild is going.
Except Mac Jones, it seems All the rookie qbs are in terrible situationsSaid it before, say it again.
Davis Mills is in the worst situation. Yet he managed to develop and show promise
If he ends up being like tannehill, that be great imo. I'd say his floor is more like nick foles/minshewEveryone wants to debate his ceiling and honestly I see Tannehill is where he will land. I wonder if that is good enough?
Welcome to the board.Mills has had quite a few passes this year that should have been picks. I'm not trying to knock Mills or anything, he out played my expectations by a country mile. however, the truth is the truth, and at the end of the day Rivers is one of the most underrated QBs in my life time.
We all should know consistency is something Mills needs to work on.Mills did have quite a few passes that could have and should have been picked.
Trey Lance's situation ain't so bad..Except Mac Jones, it seems All the rookie qbs are in terrible situations
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you going by yards, QBR, passer rating, or pff?I think Tannehill has developed himself into the bottom part of the very good 10 to 12 QBs,
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I want to agree with you ,but I might not depending on what kind of talent we put around him in 22. I fully expect to be swapping out the entire coaching staff at this point next year. One of the coaches they hire in '23 will likely be a qb whisperer to salvage him.If I'm grading him on a curve this time next season, it's time to move on.
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I don't really know how this forum works, so if I'm responding to a bot forgive me guys haha, but yeah I found this place recently and I'm trying to move away from the Texans subreddit which has gotten a bit toxic recently.
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A former member who ripped off other members by taking their money and failing to deliver jersey'sFirst thing you need to do is buy a jersey from swtbound
The always dicey, subjective eye tests with emphasis on how much does the QB difference make.you going by yards, QBR, passer rating, or pff?
Hate to see it.A former member who ripped off other members by taking their money and failing to deliver jersey's
That's right, I forgot all about that guyTrey Lance's situation ain't so bad..
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Where?.... mostly honest conversations of varying degrees of intelligence/wisdom/common sense
Jesus, you got in the way back machine to pull that reference lolFirst thing you need to do is buy a jersey from swtbound
Any specific reasons? I'm not fully on his hype train, but as long as we aren't necessarily competing next year, and with a "weak" QB class, I don't have a problem running him again.Draft a Qb!!!!!!! Not a believer........... sorry! View attachment 9512
Well it's good enough for the best record in the AFC. I don't think his ceiling has been defined yet as he has demonstrated his ability to learn and improve - and he passes the eye test. I think by mid-season of year 2 he will show huge growth and be a middle of the pack QB. I'm more concerned with his floor, which I think is about Nick Foles.Everyone wants to debate his ceiling and honestly I see Tannehill is where he will land. I wonder if that is good enough?
What do you think their chances are for making the Super Bowl? Is he good enough to get them there?Well it's good enough for the best record in the AFC
Not by himself. If he has Derrick Henry in peak form, maybe.What do you think there chances are for making the Super Bowl? Is he good enough to get them there?
I meant “their” not “there”Not by himself. If he has Derrick Henry in peak form, maybe
Or if we had a real HC & OC this team could have won more than 4 games.I'm surprised the Titans have the best record in the AFC because we beat them once and played them close the last game.
Just goes to show - Any Given Sunday.
I'm still stuck on "prototypical"I said in another thread I would draft a QB in the first four rounds still, but I probably wouldn't.
Agree with you except for this part. Lovie already had a run as a HC and he showed that it was his Peter Principle. He's a great DC and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. I don't care if they fire Culley or not but I think that would be a moot issue if they got a real OC. Keep Lovie as DC, hire an offensive HC or hire an OC that is equal to Lovie on DC and just Culley around to motivate and inspire players, because almost every player through the years have said they love working with him, and I think alot of coaching issues would go away. Then its just a matter of putting talent on the field.At the least he looks good enough to win with if the right pieces are around him.
I mean, I'm excited about his potential...he looked pretty good against some good teams with Kelly as OC, Culley as HC, a bad running game, I don't even know who the TE is or what's going on with the OL..and a WR group that could use some work...
Not much was going in his favor and he still had some good showings.
I said in another thread I would draft a QB in the first four rounds still, but I probably wouldn't. I would try to bring tyrod or another journeyman vet as a back up. If there is some QB late in the draft that they like maybe take a guy late or udfa.
But basically, at this point Mills would be my guy until he proves he isn't. I'd probably fire Culley and try to retain Lovie even if that means promoting him to HC. But this team needs a real offense.
I hope, if they are looking for another HC, they would talk to Lovie & find out what's going on in his head now.Lovie already had a run as a HC and he showed that it was his Peter Principle.
I get it but at the same time why mess with a good thing? I don’t think Lovie would really go any where if he is kept as DC because teams weren’t exactly knocking his door down. Give him an interview and see what he says, he has the advantage of already being there, but my first question would be who are you bringing in as OC and how involved do you plan to be in the offense?I hope, if they are looking for another HC, they would talk to Lovie & find out what's going on in his head now.
There were some saying he wouldn't do well here because he didn't do well at Illinois, specifically that Illinois' defense was so bad.
I'm not saying I want Lovie to be our HC. But his work in Tampa & Chicago shouldn't close the door on him.
Agreed. And the great thing is, if he doesn’t pan out by then they will be moving into a much better QB class to get one.We all should know consistency is something Mills needs to work on.
I don't even count the 4 picks he threw in the rain, so I'm happy with his TD to INT ratio. If I'm grading him on a curve this time next season, it's time to move on.
I think the Texans have put themselves into a spot where they are pretty much going to be forced to keep Kelly. Pep could very well be off to be OC elsewhere. The Texans could make Pep OC here, but why would he take that if McDaniels is going to be HC/OC soon?I saw enough potential to let him compete for the job in 2022. Hopefully they don't lose Pep and they let Kelly go.
That's kinda my worst fear with Mills. He plays next year shows he isn't "it"? Whatever, we are rebuilding anyway and can look around in the draft for one.Matt Schaub/Kirk Cousins . If anyone thinks you can beat the top tier qbs with those guys, be my guest. You'll never be able to build a perfect team to beat those guys. They gotta at least have the right coaching staff to give anyone a chance.