Not his fault BO'b is a dumass. If you're a glutton for punishment & haven't given up on the Texans, let's hope DJ has his best season ever.
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Not his fault BO'b is a dumass. If you're a glutton for punishment & haven't given up on the Texans, let's hope DJ has his best season ever.
If he does, then the Texans will have won this trade. Johnson was an all pro level RB that could do it all 3 yrs ago.
surfintexas
Noob
Of course he does. That way when the team fails, he can blame it on injuries.
kiwitexansfan
Hall of Fame
I'm hanging over on a Cards board today, one of their posters said we'd be ok as long as he isn't run up the middle...... They don't watch Texans football obviously.
Mr teX
Hall of Fame
He just fell out of favor with the regime change in Arizona is all that really happened to him. was just basically just a 1000 yard 7 TD rusher in 2018 with Josh Rosen at Qb.
The last time he played with a competent qb anywhere close to DW4’s caliber (Carson Palmer) he was an all pro.
The last time he played with a competent qb anywhere close to DW4’s caliber (Carson Palmer) he was an all pro.
Johnson averaged 3.6 ypc the past 2 seasons. All other Arizona RBs over the same span? 4.6 ypc. Dude is done. And the Texans are paying the back end of a very bad contract.
Mr teX
Hall of Fame
Lol, well that settles it then...
No one likes the guy bringing the facts.
Mr teX
Hall of Fame
No one likes the guy bringing the facts.
That’s true....it’s a fact..taken to an absurd level to prove a point...but it is a fact.
powda
The bridge between stupid and useless is short.
No other team in the NFL would have taken on David Johnson's contract, $12.3 million still guaranteed. Arizona would have cut Johnson. Then, taken that dead cap hit of $16 million. And Johnson would have done backflips all the way to NRG if offered half of that as a FA.
So even if Johnson has a solid, comeback year as a Texan, it was a bad trade. The Texans should have received draft pick compensation from the Cards for alleviating that cap hit. Or, made the Cards pay have of the remaining guarantee. None of that happened. And when you take into account the pitiful compensation received for an All Pro WR, this has to be worst trade based on value in recent memory.
So even if Johnson has a solid, comeback year as a Texan, it was a bad trade. The Texans should have received draft pick compensation from the Cards for alleviating that cap hit. Or, made the Cards pay have of the remaining guarantee. None of that happened. And when you take into account the pitiful compensation received for an All Pro WR, this has to be worst trade based on value in recent memory.
texanhead08
All Pro
It all comes down to the other GM's lick their chops when it comes to making trades with the Texans because OB has no damn clue what a players value is and he either overpays or gets pennies on the dollars when he sends a player somewhere (Clowney, Hopkins)
And O'Brien didn't watch film of Johnson who can't run up the middle!
Dutchrudder
Hall of Fame
Reminds me of last year when they traded Clowney and took on more deadweight salary of Barkevious Mingo AND paid 7 million to send away Clowney. It was nuts then, but apparently it's now a trend.
Texansballer74
The Marine
Tex job on here is to defend Obrien at all cost.
Texansballer74
The Marine
The Texans don't have a single qualified personnel guy left in the building. Who does O'Brien have to bounce trades off of? Prayer Boy? Flat Org Cal? Why should we expect anything but dysfunction from this group?
To be fair, it's a thankless job.
So you’re saying we (knee jerkers) are under valuing David Johnson in this trade. & if we feed him the way we’ve fed Hyde & Miller the last couple of years he might take some of the load off DW4.
ok. I’m easy. Sold.
dammittt!!! Unsold.
so Johnson can still do backflips. That could prove useful.
not that we know of. It was a minute before we realized that part of the Clooney trade.
Texecutioner
Hall of Fame
It isn't. You don't pay for a high risk player that is likely a shell of his former self to a huge contract. We not only got bad compensation, we got extra baggage on the salary cap now.
Decim8
Veteran
I actually think stills is a decent pick up, the rest not so sure
Speedy
Former Yeller Dweller
Sure, but not for a 2nd. Duke Johnson was a decent pickup, but not for a 3rd. Value matters.
But he was another guy who was in the doghouse for another team and was probably gonna get cut
Same with Hyde too
Mr teX
Hall of Fame
Your reading comprehension is terrible....
To be fair it’s more like Stills and a high 4th for our 2. Not that it makes it much better....
Speedy
Former Yeller Dweller
Hmmm... what did we get for Nuk again?
Uncle Rico
Ur apology should be as loud as Ur disrespect was
Need to add I.R. to the header. this dude is just cashing checks at this point.
FuzzyLogic
Mathematically Possible
Don't agree with any of the crap I have seen over the past few days, it's like I'm in bizarro world, but this guy didn't cause that so hoping DJ leads the league in rushing and all-purpose yards this year
Come on man, you weren’t talking about the Hop trade. The post I quote insinuated that we traded a 2 for Stills and in fact we traded a 2 and got Stills and a high 4th. There’s plenty to be pissed at OB about being completely accurate, we don’t need to overstate his buffoonery
banned1976
sleeper mode
It appears he’s reading what you write, so if I can fault him for anything it’s that. But I’m guilty of that sometimes too, but not often.
Speedy
Former Yeller Dweller
My point was the deal OB paid to get Stills, a WR3, vs what he got for arguably the best WR in the game. It’s all pretty bad.
dream_team
Hall of Fame
I think the Texans lost this trade, no matter what happens tomorrow. I'm all for acquiring David Johnson. I can deal with trading Nuk. But you MUST get proper value at THAT time. The Diggs trade shows that the Texans didn't get proper value.
An all pro David Johnson and #40 would be close in trade value. He was a stud. A perfect fit in this offense.
Unfortunately those days seem to be a thing of the past.
Texansballer74
The Marine
dream_team
Hall of Fame
I could agree with that. Unfortunately, All-Pro DJ was 4 seasons ago, and hasn't surpassed 1000 yards rushing since. DJ wasn't even the starter for his team last season, and wasn't in plans to start next season. Everyone knew the Cards were looking to dump his contract.
On TOP of that... we are taking DJ's FULL contract AND we threw in a 4th round pick! WTF!?!?! This was a bad deal, regardless of what these players & draft picks turn out to be.
Texansballer74
The Marine
This is no damn where close to the value of Nuk. GTFOH with that lame duck crap. This was by far the worst trade in sports history. The majority of the sports world is given the Texans and Bill O’Brien the business right now.
Johnson barely played last season and lost his starting spot. He’s not a darn perfect fit any darn where.
Johnson barely played last season and lost his starting spot. He’s not a darn perfect fit any darn where.
We would have been better off signing a FA RB or maybe draft one.
Uncle Rico
Ur apology should be as loud as Ur disrespect was
You could have signed Melvin Gordon to a FA deal that averaged 10Ms per and it would have been an exponentially better deal than trading for David Johnson.
MEGA SWATT
All Pro
Meh