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Mr teX

Hall of Fame
None of this addresses the record as HC that I laid out which is fact. A losing record as HC that stretched for like 5 or 6 years is not some small sample. Its a large one, and zero argument to put up for a losing record that is below 500.
Lol

You: "Your honor, we know without a shadow of doubt that he killed this man b/c he had the blood of the victim on his hands when the police arrived on the scene!"

Judge: " Ok counselor, make your case & prove it to me."

You: ":foottap:, didn't you hear me, he had the victims blood on his hands, that's a FACT & proves it!"

So him being the last HC to win a playoff game in the last 20 years for that terribly run franchise that was getting ready to move at that.............................. isn't "fact" & has nothing to do with anything.................................but his final record there, & the fact that it was over a 5-6 year period .....that has EVERYTHING to do with how good of a HC he was prior to Brady?

Lol, you either wanna discuss the details and circumstances around all that....... or you don't....& we both know you don't b/c as i noted earlier, it doesn't support your narrative. SOP unfortunately for you to ignore what doesn't jive with what you've brainwashed yourself into believing these days. If anything isn't relevant it's your "5-game drop off" nonsense considering that the odds of them losing a few games that following year after coming off a 16-0 perfect season were pretty damn high. But b/c it was Cassell at the helm, you have no problem formulating that nonsense. If Brady was the starter that season though, i'm sure your stance would be muuuuccchhh different.


Again, your one season you are trying to put up next to 5 or 6 others on two different teams is laughable and probably the worst "desperation" argument I've ever seen. I already acknowledged this, and reminded you that there was a "5 game drop-off" from the season before which was an undefeated team. So the only argument you are even using is one season where Belicheck had a team that went undefeated the season before, and lost an extra 5 games the next year. All you're doing is proving that Belicheck owes that 50% to Brady based on the numbers. This lame idea that you can just cancel out an entire era in Cleveland, because it doesn't fit a narrative makes your credibility totally fizzle here. You don't even want to address the statistics that you started this argument off with.
The only desperation i see around here is you........desperately trying to remove your head from the sand.......or from some orifice of a certain legend QB. I'm not trying to cancel out anything. Belichick's record is what it is in Cleveland...but his 5 year stint at the helm of what was a quickly devolving situation in Cleveland under an owner that was moving the franchise away still doesn't measure up to what he'd already done over a 20+ year career as a key component to multiple championships and deep playoff runs of other teams...Before Brady even got to the league. That counts & is something...How much...well obviously, you dont think that counts for much of anything........Brady stepped in & the rest is history. But anyone with even a MODICUM of objectivity.... saw those teams. We saw how they were built & run & won..they had BB's signature all over them...Not Tom Brady's.
 

Texecutioner

Hall of Fame
Lol

You: "Your honor, we know without a shadow of doubt that he killed this man b/c he had the blood of the victim on his hands when the police arrived on the scene!"

Judge: " Ok counselor, make your case & prove it to me."

You: ":foottap:, didn't you hear me, he had the victims blood on his hands, that's a FACT & proves it!"

So him being the last HC to win a playoff game in the last 20 years for that terribly run franchise that was getting ready to move at that.............................. isn't "fact" & has nothing to do with anything.................................but his final record there, & the fact that it was over a 5-6 year period .....that has EVERYTHING to do with how good of a HC he was prior to Brady?

Lol, you either wanna discuss the details and circumstances around all that....... or you don't....& we both know you don't b/c as i noted earlier, it doesn't support your narrative. SOP unfortunately for you to ignore what doesn't jive with what you've brainwashed yourself into believing these days. If anything isn't relevant it's your "5-game drop off" nonsense considering that the odds of them losing a few games that following year after coming off a 16-0 perfect season were pretty damn high. But b/c it was Cassell at the helm, you have no problem formulating that nonsense. If Brady was the starter that season though, i'm sure your stance would be muuuuccchhh different.




The only desperation i see around here is you........desperately trying to remove your head from the sand.......or from some orifice of a certain legend QB. I'm not trying to cancel out anything. Belichick's record is what it is in Cleveland...but his 5 year stint at the helm of what was a quickly devolving situation in Cleveland under an owner that was moving the franchise away still doesn't measure up to what he'd already done over a 20+ year career as a key component to multiple championships and deep playoff runs of other teams...Before Brady even got to the league. That counts & is something...How much...well obviously, you dont think that counts for much of anything........Brady stepped in & the rest is history. But anyone with even a MODICUM of objectivity.... saw those teams. We saw how they were built & run & won..they had BB's signature all over them...Not Tom Brady's.

41-55 was his record prior to Brady. (Losing record)

That's literally all I need for this argument to slash your initial statement to pieces.

Everything else you've said from that point on has been a waste of time, because the facts say otherwise. He's only been a great HC with Brady as his QB. Brady's offensive accomplishments like having 3 MVP's and a ton of other records amongst the top record holders in the sport make anyone even trying that sound foolish.
 

steelbtexan

King of the W. B. Club
Contributor's Club
Lol

You: "Your honor, we know without a shadow of doubt that he killed this man b/c he had the blood of the victim on his hands when the police arrived on the scene!"

Judge: " Ok counselor, make your case & prove it to me."

You: ":foottap:, didn't you hear me, he had the victims blood on his hands, that's a FACT & proves it!"

So him being the last HC to win a playoff game in the last 20 years for that terribly run franchise that was getting ready to move at that.............................. isn't "fact" & has nothing to do with anything.................................but his final record there, & the fact that it was over a 5-6 year period .....that has EVERYTHING to do with how good of a HC he was prior to Brady?

Lol, you either wanna discuss the details and circumstances around all that....... or you don't....& we both know you don't b/c as i noted earlier, it doesn't support your narrative. SOP unfortunately for you to ignore what doesn't jive with what you've brainwashed yourself into believing these days. If anything isn't relevant it's your "5-game drop off" nonsense considering that the odds of them losing a few games that following year after coming off a 16-0 perfect season were pretty damn high. But b/c it was Cassell at the helm, you have no problem formulating that nonsense. If Brady was the starter that season though, i'm sure your stance would be muuuuccchhh different.




The only desperation i see around here is you........desperately trying to remove your head from the sand.......or from some orifice of a certain legend QB. I'm not trying to cancel out anything. Belichick's record is what it is in Cleveland...but his 5 year stint at the helm of what was a quickly devolving situation in Cleveland under an owner that was moving the franchise away still doesn't measure up to what he'd already done over a 20+ year career as a key component to multiple championships and deep playoff runs of other teams...Before Brady even got to the league. That counts & is something...How much...well obviously, you dont think that counts for much of anything........Brady stepped in & the rest is history. But anyone with even a MODICUM of objectivity.... saw those teams. We saw how they were built & run & won..they had BB's signature all over them...Not Tom Brady's.
Liked because I agree,

Fact is when you put a GAOT HC/GM who's willing to win at all costs and a GOAT QB you will have a20 yr run of excellence. I'm personally glad I got to watch greatness and I'm looking forward to the Arians Brady team and Belichick this yr.
 


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