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I'm off today...I'll lay off the milk now.Only if I were saying that Mack Brown's offense was a more NFL ready offense. Context, MT.
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I'm off today...I'll lay off the milk now.Only if I were saying that Mack Brown's offense was a more NFL ready offense. Context, MT.
ah okay.Vince Young has something that Troy Smith does not. That is the fire burning in VY that does not allow him to quit, what got UT the Rose Bowl.
Troy is more NFL ready, Vince is the bigger gamble and obviously could be the better in the long run. As of right now though, I think Troy could do more if Vince doesnt prove anything.Vince Young has something that Troy Smith does not. That is the fire burning in VY that does not allow him to quit, what got UT the Rose Bowl.
They're still in contention because Vince is already in the NFL.Troy is more NFL ready, Vince is the bigger gamble and obviously could be the better in the long run. As of right now though, I think Troy could do more if Vince doesnt prove anything.
Also, I forgot Ohio State was already out of contention for the National Championship . . .
I will refrain from posting
I have been saying "Smith, Houston Texan 2007."
ah okay.
Troy is more NFL ready, Vince is the bigger gamble and obviously could be the better in the long run. As of right now though, I think Troy could do more if Vince doesnt prove anything.
4000 yards isn't going to happen. sorry. you don't see 4000 yard passers in college unless they're at hawaii or texas tech or similar.
you would have said the same thing if I told you before last season that Vince would have 4000 total yds. you would say no it wont happen because it never has before. he still did it
I haven't watched a lot of Ohio State Games, But last year there were a lot of games that VY didn't even play in the fourth quater....
thats true. Im a UT homer so Im biased. but Vince didnt even step on the field in the second half against Baylor and Kansas. And he didnt play the 4th quarter in the majority of the games
...and his determination. However, Troy Smith is more lethal with his arm.Titan "Tack" Fan;477628 said:VY's size and elusiveness make him better.
...and his determination. However, Troy Smith is more lethal with his arm.
and why does it matter if he's a senior and young was a junior? you longwhorn fans are quick to defend young using points that mean nothing. the question is who's a better prospect, young or smith. simple as that.
and possess the same natural ability to run, and I'd put good money on it that Smith is faster than Young.
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That's a suckers argument....You almost had me though....
Be real with yourself....If VY would have stayed another year Smith might quite possibly have been the 3rd or 4th QB taken in next years draft....
That would be true or funny if I was a sucker.
Smith is a quick QB who can get "north and south" well. When I said runner, I meant that he has the ability to run, not that he does as much as Young. Smith is the next McNabb.
Be real with yourself....If VY would have stayed another year Smith might quite possibly have been the 3rd or 4th QB taken in next years draft....
Signed Matt Leinart.
I'm a longhorn fan...troy smith has a very strong arm. definitely stronger than vince young.
and why does it matter if he's a senior and young was a junior? you longwhorn fans are quick to defend young using points that mean nothing. the question is who's a better prospect, young or smith. simple as that.
I see more Troy Smith type players than Vince Young type players fail when taking the next step.
You would draft a six foot tall QB? Or would you rather have 6'4 VY.
Well since VY is "unique" I guess that is a pretty thick limb you are on.
Young was the 3rd overall pick coming out as a Jr.and why does it matter if he's a senior and young was a junior? you longwhorn fans are quick to defend young using points that mean nothing. the question is who's a better prospect, young or smith. simple as that.
Vick went number 1 but how many super bowls does he have? Brady went in the 6th round and how many does he have?
People screw up in the draft. Just because someone is drafted higher, it does not mean they will be better.
Read my post again...People screw up in the draft. Just because someone is drafted higher, it does not mean they will be better.
We're not talking better player...we're talking about the better prospect.Huge said:Young was the 3rd overall pick coming out as a Jr.
Smith will not go that high coming out as a Sr.
Logic says that makes Young the better prospect.
Simple as that.
Read my post again...
We're not talking better player...we're talking about the better prospect.
Emmitt Smith turned out to be a better RB than Blair Thomas. But guess which one was the better RB prospect in that draft? That's right, the one that went #2 overall...Thomas.
Read my post again...
We're not talking better player...we're talking about the better prospect.
Emmitt Smith turned out to be a better RB than Blair Thomas. But guess which one was the better RB prospect in that draft? That's right, the one that went #2 overall...Thomas.
I'd put good money on it that Smith is faster than Young.
Well thats your money to loose, if you want to bet that Smith has a sub 4.4 fourty and can out run Marlin Jackson who is the current CB for the Colts then ok. Check the 2005 Rose Bowl and see VY blow by Jackson.
And anyone can throw a great deep ball to Ted Ginn, put it up and let him go get it, but to say that his arm is stronger than VYs isnt unbelievable but I doubt it, have you ever seen VY underthrow any of his deep routes 60 yards down field, if anything he puts it almost out of reach.
Did you see any of Smith's TDs from last weeks game? Kid was throwing lasers into the endzone. ANd throwing a good deep ball isn't the same as having a strong arm. The benchmark route for arm strenght is the 10 to 15 yard out. The guys who can routinly make that throw are the one's who are considered to hav eteh big arms.
Ohh, and by the way Limus Sweed isn't that much slower then Ginn, neither is Cosby. In fact a foot race between the three would be pretty interseting.
You must have never seen Ted Ginn run before, thats like saying that a race between AJ and Jerome Mathis would be interesting, AJ is fast but kids like Mathis and Ginn are on a totaly different level.
As far as 10 to 15 yard routes go, watch some film from last year, he threw ropes to David Thomas all year, he hit receivers all over the field. Just look at the TD he threw 2 weeks ago against the Redskins, on a line for like 15-20 yards.
I challenge you to find footage of VY throwing a 10 or 15 yard OUT route. I've seen just about all of the snaps VY took as a Longhorn and I cannot recall any.
15 yard curls? YES. 15 yard slants? Sure. 15 yard out routes? Nope, sorry. It's not a throw most college teams use due to the fact that if teh QB doesn't fastball into the receiver it will likely be picked off and run back for a TD.
With all that being said VY can throw the route, he did so well at his pro day, it's just that he never did in a game situation.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=cr-texas032206&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
As for Cosby v Sweed v Ginn, Cosby won state titles at 100 (10.46) and 200 (21.31). My money would probally be on Ginn but Cosby and Sweed posses elite speed also.
Quick note on Pat White..... Isn't he a sophmore ?
As far as whose better.....They'll be about equal if Troy Smith wins a title.