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ATXtexanfan
Hall of Fame
Man what do you do if your Oklahoma? I kinda feel bad for them.......NOT
Them damn aggies are just frustrating.
Two showdowns next week. Penn St at Michigan
Bama at Tennessee
Oklahoma St and TCU play also, strange time in the big 12
Them damn aggies are just frustrating.
Two showdowns next week. Penn St at Michigan
Bama at Tennessee
Oklahoma St and TCU play also, strange time in the big 12
That final play call was about as stupid as I've seen!
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
O'Brien having success most everywhere...........except with the Texans...........Looks like O'Brien could have directed the team in the right direction if he were not given the responsibilities of the GM.
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Hayes: Bill O'Brien has all the right answers, no matter the QB or the opponent
Matt Hayes
There was a moment last weekend where all that Bill O’Brien has quietly and efficiently accomplished at Alabama came into focus.
A struggling backup quarterback, a team on the edge, and a call to save the game — and potentially the season.
Jalen Milroe to Ja’Corey Brooks. A backup quarterback and a struggling wide receiver, and the play call that led to the winning points against Texas A&M.
More important, the play call that may have saved a young quarterback.
“Jalen played with a lot of anxiety,” Alabama coach Nick Saban said earlier this week at his weekly press conference. “I don’t think he allowed himself to let his training sort of guide him, and trust and believe in it so that he could have success in executing plays.”
Enter, the (so far) call of the season from O’Brien, Alabama’s offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach.
The situation: 3rd-and-6 from the Texas A&M 29. Milroe, filling in for injured Heisman winner Bryce Young, had completed just 1 of his previous 4 passes, had thrown a bad interception into double coverage and fumbled twice — the turnovers leading to 14 Aggies points.
He was shaky. The offense was sputtering. But for a 28-yard run from Tide tailback Jahmyr Gibbs and a personal foul call that moved the ball to the Aggies’ 32, the first drive of the 3rd quarter would’ve been as disastrous as the previous 3 (10 plays, 3 yards, 3 turnovers).
Knowing Milroe’s struggles of the previous quarter, O’Brien called a shallow cross with Brooks — a former 5-star recruit who has struggled much of this season — and gave Milroe an easy throw to convert on third down. Brooks caught the ball in stride, and used his speed to run past the secondary and into the end zone.
A perfect play call for the right situation — and the stress of the game falling off the shoulders of a first-time starting quarterback. Milroe didn’t turn the ball over in the second half, he played within the system and Alabama got out of a difficult situation.
Fast forward to this week, and the reality that Milroe could start against Tennessee makes last week’s play call — and resetting Milroe’s confidence — that much more important.
But at this point, after O’Brien’s work last year with Young (also a first-time starter), are we really surprised? Young won the Heisman Trophy following Mac Jones’ record-breaking season in 2020 by breaking Jones’ records.
Were it not for 2 untimely injuries to top receivers John Metchie III and Jameson Williams in the SEC Championship Game and National Championship Game, Alabama could have won its second straight national title in O’Brien’s first season as offensive coordinator.
“Bill’s done a great job for us here,” Saban said.
But for how much longer? O’Brien will be a hot candidate in college and the NFL, and will likely have his choice of jobs.
A long way from where he was when he arrived in Tuscaloosa last season and told Saban he would stay at Alabama for at least 2 years.
“It was one of those things where, when you get fired in coaching, you find out really right away that maybe you don’t have as many friends as you thought you did have,” O’Brien said in August. “I’ve been doing this a long time and I’ve had various roles in coaching, so obviously (job offers) come up. But I’ve made a commitment to coach Saban and I love coaching here.”
O’Brien was run out of the NFL 2 years ago despite a successful track record and summarily toxic because of his inability to get along with 2 superstars (Deshaun Watson, DeAndre Hopkins) and poor personnel moves once he was also named general manager and given full roster control.
But his offensive knowledge and development of quarterbacks at the college and NFL levels has never been questioned. Tom Brady with the Patriots, Watson with the Texans, Matt McGloin of Penn State from former walk-on to NFL starter.
So when Saban needed an offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach after the 2020 season, he asked Patriots coach and longtime friend Bill Belichick about O’Brien and eventually hired him.
It didn’t take long for O’Brien’s impact to be felt. Young has raved about O’Brien’s coaching and offense, and the relationship they’ve built in 2 seasons.
“Me and O.B. are really close on and off the field,” Young said in July at SEC Media Days. “We’re always on the same page. He has been very important to my development. Whatever happens (on the field), he has an answer for it.”
Just like last weekend against Texas A&M, when Milroe was sinking and desperate for support. O’Brien had the play call that not only scored but reset Milroe and the offense.
Now it’s could be Round 2 for Milroe, this time against surging Tennessee, and the No. 2 scoring offense in the nation (46.8 ppg.). Alabama won’t have the luxury of playing an offense that struggles to score points (Texas A&M), and may have to keep pace with the Vols.
That means more production from Milroe, and from the wide receivers and offensive line, both of which have had an uneven first half of the season.
The Tide’s leading receiver is tailback Gibbs, who has 22 catches. Brooks leads the team in receiving yards (223 yards) but has only 12 catches.
The offensive line, which has cut down on the 40 sacks it allowed in 2021, still allows too many pressures and forced Milroe to play off schedule for much of last week’s game.
But no matter the inconsistencies in the offense, it’s still about the quarterback and his ability to make throws.
“You can’t turn the ball over and not execute plays like they’re designed relative to the read of what you should and shouldn’t do,” Saban said. “We’ve got skill guys that can make plays. We’ve got to distribute the ball at the quarterback position so we can.”
They saved the season once last week. Why not again this week — on the road, in a difficult environment and against a rival they have beaten 15 consecutive times?
“I believe in our team,” Saban said. “It’s kind of everybody’s choice to try and get it right, and it’s our responsibility as coaches to help them get it right.”
One play at a time.
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Hayes: Bill O'Brien has all the right answers, no matter the QB or the opponent
Matt Hayes
There was a moment last weekend where all that Bill O’Brien has quietly and efficiently accomplished at Alabama came into focus.
A struggling backup quarterback, a team on the edge, and a call to save the game — and potentially the season.
Jalen Milroe to Ja’Corey Brooks. A backup quarterback and a struggling wide receiver, and the play call that led to the winning points against Texas A&M.
More important, the play call that may have saved a young quarterback.
“Jalen played with a lot of anxiety,” Alabama coach Nick Saban said earlier this week at his weekly press conference. “I don’t think he allowed himself to let his training sort of guide him, and trust and believe in it so that he could have success in executing plays.”
Enter, the (so far) call of the season from O’Brien, Alabama’s offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach.
The situation: 3rd-and-6 from the Texas A&M 29. Milroe, filling in for injured Heisman winner Bryce Young, had completed just 1 of his previous 4 passes, had thrown a bad interception into double coverage and fumbled twice — the turnovers leading to 14 Aggies points.
He was shaky. The offense was sputtering. But for a 28-yard run from Tide tailback Jahmyr Gibbs and a personal foul call that moved the ball to the Aggies’ 32, the first drive of the 3rd quarter would’ve been as disastrous as the previous 3 (10 plays, 3 yards, 3 turnovers).
Knowing Milroe’s struggles of the previous quarter, O’Brien called a shallow cross with Brooks — a former 5-star recruit who has struggled much of this season — and gave Milroe an easy throw to convert on third down. Brooks caught the ball in stride, and used his speed to run past the secondary and into the end zone.
A perfect play call for the right situation — and the stress of the game falling off the shoulders of a first-time starting quarterback. Milroe didn’t turn the ball over in the second half, he played within the system and Alabama got out of a difficult situation.
Fast forward to this week, and the reality that Milroe could start against Tennessee makes last week’s play call — and resetting Milroe’s confidence — that much more important.
But at this point, after O’Brien’s work last year with Young (also a first-time starter), are we really surprised? Young won the Heisman Trophy following Mac Jones’ record-breaking season in 2020 by breaking Jones’ records.
Were it not for 2 untimely injuries to top receivers John Metchie III and Jameson Williams in the SEC Championship Game and National Championship Game, Alabama could have won its second straight national title in O’Brien’s first season as offensive coordinator.
“Bill’s done a great job for us here,” Saban said.
But for how much longer? O’Brien will be a hot candidate in college and the NFL, and will likely have his choice of jobs.
A long way from where he was when he arrived in Tuscaloosa last season and told Saban he would stay at Alabama for at least 2 years.
“It was one of those things where, when you get fired in coaching, you find out really right away that maybe you don’t have as many friends as you thought you did have,” O’Brien said in August. “I’ve been doing this a long time and I’ve had various roles in coaching, so obviously (job offers) come up. But I’ve made a commitment to coach Saban and I love coaching here.”
O’Brien was run out of the NFL 2 years ago despite a successful track record and summarily toxic because of his inability to get along with 2 superstars (Deshaun Watson, DeAndre Hopkins) and poor personnel moves once he was also named general manager and given full roster control.
But his offensive knowledge and development of quarterbacks at the college and NFL levels has never been questioned. Tom Brady with the Patriots, Watson with the Texans, Matt McGloin of Penn State from former walk-on to NFL starter.
So when Saban needed an offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach after the 2020 season, he asked Patriots coach and longtime friend Bill Belichick about O’Brien and eventually hired him.
It didn’t take long for O’Brien’s impact to be felt. Young has raved about O’Brien’s coaching and offense, and the relationship they’ve built in 2 seasons.
“Me and O.B. are really close on and off the field,” Young said in July at SEC Media Days. “We’re always on the same page. He has been very important to my development. Whatever happens (on the field), he has an answer for it.”
Just like last weekend against Texas A&M, when Milroe was sinking and desperate for support. O’Brien had the play call that not only scored but reset Milroe and the offense.
Now it’s could be Round 2 for Milroe, this time against surging Tennessee, and the No. 2 scoring offense in the nation (46.8 ppg.). Alabama won’t have the luxury of playing an offense that struggles to score points (Texas A&M), and may have to keep pace with the Vols.
That means more production from Milroe, and from the wide receivers and offensive line, both of which have had an uneven first half of the season.
The Tide’s leading receiver is tailback Gibbs, who has 22 catches. Brooks leads the team in receiving yards (223 yards) but has only 12 catches.
The offensive line, which has cut down on the 40 sacks it allowed in 2021, still allows too many pressures and forced Milroe to play off schedule for much of last week’s game.
But no matter the inconsistencies in the offense, it’s still about the quarterback and his ability to make throws.
“You can’t turn the ball over and not execute plays like they’re designed relative to the read of what you should and shouldn’t do,” Saban said. “We’ve got skill guys that can make plays. We’ve got to distribute the ball at the quarterback position so we can.”
They saved the season once last week. Why not again this week — on the road, in a difficult environment and against a rival they have beaten 15 consecutive times?
“I believe in our team,” Saban said. “It’s kind of everybody’s choice to try and get it right, and it’s our responsibility as coaches to help them get it right.”
One play at a time.
Never won the Super Bowl in New England. O-1 in FBS championship games.
Other than that, O'brien's great coaching under a GOAT HC with a stacked lineup. I think David Culley could handle that.
Man this article is ruining the narrative around these parts.
Anytime you have to deal with Clemson trash you're going to fail.
Well at least you're thinking. So I'll give you that. BOB was an avg HC, too conservative.
It's a burden I must bear on this forum.
Carr Bombed
Hall of Fame
Alabama shouldn't even be ranked top 10 (pass on Young.. He's Johnny - the alcohol. They got let off the hook when they played Texas and their injuries. Bill (())'Brien strikes again..
I swear that guy will **** up a wet dream.
I swear that guy will **** up a wet dream.
ATXtexanfan
Hall of Fame
Bama and vols living up to hype
ATXtexanfan
Hall of Fame
How bout them vols
Kincaid was the man tonight in Utah's upset of USC. I don't know where he gets drafted, but man Rising is a great competitor.
I’m really liking Kincaid and Quentin Anderson from TCU..
OptimisticTexan
2024 / Rebuilding Block 4 After Playoffs / Texans
I was very concerned with TCU WR- Quentin Johnston’s slow start this…especially after his coming out party last season. I began to question my Potential Randy Moss comparison, but he’s simply put on a show the last 2 games and is going to be in RD1 discussions. His size, speed, catch radius, and athleticism could certainly elevate him to the #1 WR by the time the NFL Draft kicks off. If his production remains at the current pace, Texans could have a tough decision with their first pick in round one.
Rich Schmidt
Myopicone
Hutchinson from Iowa State looked like a DHOP type WR yesterday, great hands, had one drop, nice catch radius. He looked gassed so maybe needs some conditioning. We already have Nico though to fill that role. Watching the Tenneessee and UT games, seems like so many WR's out there in todays game, NC should be able to find one in the 2nd
You mean the wr Johnston?
I get names wrong all of the time.Yes. My error
I called Jalen Carter, Jalen Anderson for about a week before somebody corrected me.
Texansphan
Football connoisseur
It happens
ATXtexanfan
Hall of Fame
Man screw these can't hold hold a lead horns
My Lord Jimbo Fisher you are a trash ass coach. This dude still has Ole miss and LSU on the schedule
My Lord Jimbo Fisher you are a trash ass coach. This dude still has Ole miss and LSU on the schedule
badboy
Hall of Fame
Tragic.
sports.yahoo.com
A former University of Virginia football player was apprehended Monday in connection with a fatal shooting that left three dead and two others wounded.
Suspect in custody in shooting that left 3 Virginia football players dead, 2 others injured
A former University of Virginia football player was apprehended Monday in connection with a fatal shooting that left three dead and two others wounded.
A former University of Virginia football player was apprehended Monday in connection with a fatal shooting that left three dead and two others wounded.
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
Watching the play, it looks to me that one of my favorite college QBs Tennessee's Hendon Hooker suffered an ACL. MRI to be performed.
Saw Drake Maye QB North Carolina for the 1st half in his rivalry game. He looked like a tall dude with physical tools but not anything that his stats nor the armchair scouting community has been telling me.
Hooker, Penix, and Nix all might be tests of a new QB development reality. After being borderline prospects in questionable situations does playing more football in better situations mean they have developed are these 23-year-old dudes just playing against 18-year-olds?
OptimisticTexan
2024 / Rebuilding Block 4 After Playoffs / Texans
Redshirt Freshman 2022 (6-4 @ 220 lbs)
ATT: 440 / COM: 298 / CM%: 67.7 / YDS: 3,847 / AVG: 8.7 / TD: 35 / INT: 5 / QBR: 157.6
Tar Heels are 9-3 and in 1st place in his rookie season as starter. They do have Clemson in their next game, so that’ll be a nice test. If Maye can put together this type of season in his 1st year as a starter, my guess is he could have an even better season in 2023.
I knew what his stats said, but at least for a half, that kid didn't show up. Ya know the one that the Texans are supposed to tank for. I hope that the other version I saw highlights of plays more times than not in 2023. Whether the Texans take a QB or not 2023 draft, it will be an advantage for the top 2024 to be more than Caleb Williams QB wise.
Announcers mentioned that he was having a bad start, but he came on in the second half. He's a FR so has a lot of growing to do. I don't know why people seem so sure he will come out in 2024
I think the same and just posted about it in the Stroud/Young thread
KoolAid Sipper
AFCEVET
I always enjoy it when Michigan beats Ohio St...been partial to Big Blue ever since the days of Butch Woolfork, Anthony Carter and of course on the sidelines Bo Schembechler.
TexansBull
Hall of Fame
But what happens if he doesn't declare early?
That would be awesome if...
I’ll pass on Nix. Do like Hooker and Penix.
OptimisticTexan
2024 / Rebuilding Block 4 After Playoffs / Texans
TexansBull
Hall of Fame
You can't go into the draft assuming... you know what assume is made of
TexansBull
Hall of Fame
Just to play devil's advocate... if he blows out a knee late next year, do you still take him #1 overall?
OptimisticTexan
2024 / Rebuilding Block 4 After Playoffs / Texans
badboy
Hall of Fame
Just saw this:
gostanford.com
David Shaw Steps Down as Stanford Head Football Coach - Stanford University Athletics
Stanford's Bradford M. Freeman Director of Football David Shaw announced following Saturday's game that he will step down from his position, effective immediately.
gostanford.com
badboy
Hall of Fame
Report: Penn State OT Olu Fashanu to skip 2023 NFL draft, return to Nittany Lions
According to a report from ESPN's Senior College Football writer Pete Thamel, Penn State's star offensive tackle Olu Fashanu is reportedly skipping next year's
wjactv.com
zshawn10
All Pro
Dane Brugler's NFL mock draft, 1.0: Can an elite group of defenders break up the QB run?
Bryce Young remains the likely pick at No. 1, but how high can Jalen Carter and Will Anderson Jr., climb in the top five?
theathletic.com