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Brian Gaine Thread

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michaelm said:
I'm thinking I would rather bring Fitzpatrick back than either those two, but agree Kaepernick over RGIII III.
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steelbtexan said:
They should bring back Fitz at 3 mil per yr.

A capable backup with good wheels and knows the offense.
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I hear where you guys are coming from but Fitzpatrick is 35 and will be 36 by mid-season.

How much does he have left in the tank?
 
ObsiWan said:
I hear where you guys are coming from but Fitzpatrick is 35 and will be 36 by mid-season.

How much does he have left in the tank?
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Hopefully he will only be playing 3-4 games a yr at most. Or the team is screwed anyways. (# Hopefully 0 games Fitz will be playing.) Fitz actually looked pretty good with the Bucs in the couple of games he had to start when Winston was injured. That's what I'm looking for in the Texans backup QB.
 
steelbtexan said:
Hopefully he will only be playing 3-4 games a yr at most. Or the team is screwed anyways. (# Hopefully 0 games Fitz will be playing.) Fitz actually looked pretty good with the Bucs in the couple of games he had to start when Winston was injured. That's what I'm looking for in the Texans backup QB.
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If he plays like he did in 15-16 that wouldn’t be a bad thing but that was probably the absolute best football he’s ever and probably will ever play. The thing is, we need a qb that plays somewhat similar to DW4 and Fitzpatrick aint the one.
 
I am sorry, I just don't get the idea of getting Fitz. While he isn't a total statue back there, he is a long way from what Watson brings to the table. He could be a pretty good back up option but the idea of him being anywhere near as mobile as Watson is silly. Someone with some mobility is what we need so that the offensive game plan doesn't have to change dramatically.
 
edo783 said:
I am sorry, I just don't get the idea of getting Fitz. While he isn't a total statue back there, he is a long way from what Watson brings to the table. He could be a pretty good back up option but the idea of him being anywhere near as mobile as Watson is silly. Someone with some mobility is what we need so that the offensive game plan doesn't have to change dramatically.
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Cheap vet, knows how the team operates, will accept a back up role and not ruffle feathers, mobile, can be serviceable in limited playing time.....
 
edo783 said:
I am sorry, I just don't get the idea of getting Fitz. While he isn't a total statue back there, he is a long way from what Watson brings to the table. He could be a pretty good back up option but the idea of him being anywhere near as mobile as Watson is silly. Someone with some mobility is what we need so that the offensive game plan doesn't have to change dramatically.
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This season, Fitz may be the best option unless we can sign Joe Webb (FA this year if I'm not mistaken), while obtaining "mobility" from a QB3 that can be developed as a longer-term option to Watson's replacement (if Webb cannot be signed).
 
steelbtexan said:
Nope

It was gloom and doom when Watson tore his ACL.
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Ok, but he will be back. He will win many games for us,thinking about a replacement when dude barely completed year 1 is ridiculously quick triggered. Almost like a doomsday prepper. Ok you can veil it in preparedness, but if 4 goes down it won't matter who is backing up. O'Brien has shown he can't coach up marginal talent.

Deshaun or Bust ... Still room on the wagon guys.
 
Uncle Rico said:
Ok, but he will be back. He will win many games for us,thinking about a replacement when dude barely completed year 1 is ridiculously quick triggered. Almost like a doomsday prepper. Ok you can veil it in preparedness, but if 4 goes down it won't matter who is backing up. O'Brien has shown he can't coach up marginal talent.

Deshaun or Bust ... Still room on the wagon guys.
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While I agree with you, as a season ticketholder I dont want to have to sit thru Savage/Yates level QB play IF Watson gets hurt again. I'm on the bandwagon, a late arrival.
 
infantrycak said:
So felt nothing. Looked at it in tape and said 'gee that might have done something.' .Hardly definitive.

I frankly don't think anyone knows more than the collapse came in practice.
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Yep. Whatever happened in the game it wasn’t enough to cause a whole lot of concern because he went out and practiced on it a few days later.
 
DocBar said:
With all of the adrenaline I wouldn't be surprised. I broke my leg and didn't know it for a couple of hours.
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Not saying otherwise. I'm saying it's likely nobody knows so everyone should stop acting like they do.

On this statement, it's just more meh. A few days after the injury he denied it being game related. Then he looks at tape and says maybe so. Together that's "no idea" to me.

The only reason it ever mattered was if it was in the game then the OL could be blamed and by extension RS. History now.
 
infantrycak said:
Not saying otherwise. I'm saying it's likely nobody knows so everyone should stop acting like they do.

On this statement, it's just more meh. A few days after the injury he denied it being game related. Then he looks at tape and says maybe so. Together that's "no idea" to me.

The only reason it ever mattered was if it was in the game then the OL could be blamed and by extension RS. History now.
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There's plenty to blame on Rick Smith

2-14, 4-12 I'm glad that McNair finally saw the light. It only took a sexual harassment suit for changes to be made.

With that said, you're right we dont know, what we hope is next yr Watson can stay healthy behind a new and improved OL.
 
infantrycak said:
Not saying otherwise. I'm saying it's likely nobody knows so everyone should stop acting like they do.

On this statement, it's just more meh. A few days after the injury he denied it being game related. Then he looks at tape and says maybe so. Together that's "no idea" to me.

The only reason it ever mattered was if it was in the game then the OL could be blamed and by extension RS. History now.
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I agree that no one, outside of Watson himself, knows the whole truth. I was merely answering why I believe what I believe. I winced during the game at that particular hit on DW4 and a few others. The OL was a shambles regardless of DW4's injury and needed major attention this offseason.
 
steelbtexan said:
There's plenty to blame on Rick Smith

2-14, 4-12 I'm glad that McNair finally saw the light. It only took a sexual harassment suit for changes to be made.

With that said, you're right we dont know, what we hope is next yr Watson can stay healthy behind a new and improved OL.
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Whoa. Are you pinning the sexual harassment suit on Rick Smith?
 
Earl34 said:
Whoa. Are you pinning the sexual harassment suit on Rick Smith?
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You haven't learned yet? Anything from 2007-17 that happened bad was RS's fault. In some twisted way, his wife's cancer is RS's fault, well other than it being fake.

This is a twopher because it slams McNair as well.
 
infantrycak said:
You haven't learned yet? Anything from 2007-17 that happened bad was RS's fault. In some twisted way, his wife's cancer is RS's fault, well other than it being fake.

This is a twopher because it slams McNair as well.
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Did you read the CnD post on this topic?

Rick Smith's name came up in it.
 
infantrycak said:
Well then lay off the incessant comments and piling on a guy whose wife has cancer. Move on.
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I will be posting how I want too, within the guidelines of TT.

BTW, I haven't mentioned anything about his wife's cancer and hope she beats the beast.
 
steelbtexan said:
To who?

You?
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Yeah. Was there some ambiguity?

He's gone, leave it alone. None of us has any idea what would have happened except for her cancer. Leave it alone. It's disrespectful.

Start setting bars for Gaine to fail, I'm sure solely because of McNair interference.
 
infantrycak said:
Yeah. Was there some ambiguity?

He's gone, leave it alone. None of us has any idea what would have happened except for her cancer. Leave it alone. It's disrespectful.

Start setting bars for Gaine to fail, I'm sure solely because of McNair interference.
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I'm setting bars for Gaine.

By season 3 after Gaine has cleaned house and fixed the mess Ricky left, I expect an AFCCG IF Watson can stay healthy.
 
steelbtexan said:
I'm setting bars for Gaine.

By season 3 after Gaine has cleaned house and fixed the mess Ricky left, I expect an AFCCG IF Watson can stay healthy.
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Especially if we can yank some of the Pats, Eagles, or any other competent FO guys away from them. Hopefully Gaine can make something happen.
 
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Mangler said:
Specially if we can yank some of the Pats, Eagles, or any other competent FO guys away from them. Hopefully Gaine can make something happen.
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I just read a story on LaAdrian Waddle, he didn't he didn't allow a sack in the 12 games he played, in 12 games he played, including 4 starts. He did well in both run/pass blocking. A guy who would be an upgrade at a reasonable price.

He's from Columbus, so if he were to sign with the Texans it would be something of a homecoming for Waddle.

He suffered a foot/knee injury but made it back in time for the SB.
 
steelbtexan said:
I just read a story on LaAdrian Waddle, he didn't he didn't allow a sack in the 12 games he played, in 12 games he played, including 4 starts. He did well in both run/pass blocking. A guy who would be an upgrade at a reasonable price.

He's from Columbus, so if he were to sign with the Texans it would be something of a homecoming for Waddle.

He suffered a foot/knee injury but made it back in time for the SB.
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Hmmm, I wonder what the price tag for him will look like?
 
Injuries affected new Patriots OT LaAdrian Waddle after promising start
Dec 17, 2015
  • Mike ReissESPN Staff Writer
...........................he couldn't stay healthy the past two seasons. He dealt with knee, calf and ankle injuries along with two concussions in 2014 before a torn ACL ended his season last December. That knee caused him issues throughout the 2015 season -- he was listed on the injury report twice with knee injuries and once with an elbow issue -- and he never really regained his form from 2013.

"Waddle began the season as the likely starter at right tackle, although he didn't play in Week 1 as he was still recovering from the knee injury. He ended up starting six games, but was often ineffective and eventually went from starter to healthy scratch three of the past four games prior to his release. He's a player that could probably have benefitted from a change of scenery due to all the injury issues. If he's able to truly get healthy again, he could be a sneaky good pickup for New England because he has the size, hands and arm length to be a serviceably good tackle -- shown by his rookie year production...............................
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Unfortunately, his injuries continued throughout 2016. And between ankle and knee injuries, even with his sparingly decent performances, adversely affected most of his 2017 season (FWIW, his overall PFF rating for 2017 was 47.5.........ranked #64 of OTs). He has not been able to stay healthy since his 2013 rookie season
 
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CloakNNNdagger said:
Unfortunately, his injuries continued throughout 2016. And between ankle and knee injuries, even with his sparingly decent performances, adversely affected most of his 2017 season (FWIW, his overall PFF rating for 2017 was 47.5.). He has not been able to stay healthy since his 2013 rookie season
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This is what gets me about PFF (Who I like to use as a reference) they graded him as high quality in both the run and pass game. He wasn't seriously injured enough where he couldn't play in the Super Bowl. So he apparently wasn't seriously injured.
 
steelbtexan said:
This is what gets me about PFF (Who I like to use as a reference) they graded him as high quality in both the run and pass game. He wasn't seriously injured enough where he couldn't play in the Super Bowl. So he apparently wasn't seriously injured.
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We're not talking about only the SB. I know he was active for the SB and listed on the depth chart as a backup, but I don't know that he played in that game. The end of Oct, he sustained an ankle injury and only fell off of the Injury Report just to be replaced with the knee injury (likely compensatory). If he can stay healthy, he may be a decent pickup, but his past history is not too encouraging.
 
steelbtexan said:
This is what gets me about PFF (Who I like to use as a reference) they graded him as high quality in both the run and pass game. He wasn't seriously injured enough where he couldn't play in the Super Bowl. So he apparently wasn't seriously injured.
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I may be incorrect but I think PFF grades on how the player performs and not on the injuries that might impact his next game or career. That's why I like stats but have to consider other info such as injuries.
 
How many of these types of injuries, like what OT Waddle is suffering from, can be attributed to bad training? Would it be possible to pick up a guy like this and be the team that gets him healthy? I have a lot of hope for our own guys considering the change in the Strength Training department.
 
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