Keep Texans Talk Google Ad Free!
Venmo Tip Jar | Paypal Tip Jar
Thanks for your support! 🍺😎👍

Brian Gaine Thread

Status
Not open for further replies.
Wolfiegrrl said:
How many of these types of injuries, like what OT Waddle is suffering from, can be attributed to bad training? Would it be possible to pick up a guy like this and be the team that gets him healthy? I have a lot of hope for our own guys considering the change in the Strength Training department.
Click to expand...
I can’t seem to find any real information on our new S&C coach. Looks like he’s respected around the league though, I guess that’s a good sign.
 
I don't know if Gaine's history in Miami has been brought up, but the Dolphins were very active in the free agent market when he was there. They made some splashy and sometimes controversial acquisitions during Gaine's tenure; Brandon Marshall, Reggie Bush, Richie Incognito, Mike Wallace, Karlos Dansby. How much influence Gaine had or didn't have is unknown. Is going big in free agency something Gaine believes in, or something he's learned not to do?

Also, just how much has Gaine been influenced by Bill Parcells and his "Planet" theory? That large men capable of playing at a high level in the NFL is of limited supply on the planet, and should be chosen over equally talented smaller players whose skills are more abundant. That would seem to fit the Texans need at offensive line, as well.
 
Lucky said:
I don't know if Gaine's history in Miami has been brought up, but the Dolphins were very active in the free agent market when he was there. They made some splashy and sometimes controversial acquisitions during Gaine's tenure; Brandon Marshall, Reggie Bush, Richie Incognito, Mike Wallace, Karlos Dansby. How much influence Gaine had or didn't have is unknown. Is going big in free agency something Gaine believes in, or something he's learned not to do?

Also, just how much has Gaine been influenced by Bill Parcells and his "Planet" theory? That large men capable of playing at a high level in the NFL is of limited supply on the planet, and should be chosen over equally talented smaller players whose skills are more abundant. That would seem to fit the Texans need at offensive line, as well.
Click to expand...
I don’t know much about his past gigs, but I like that he’s making moves this early. I do feel our S&C department was a complete joke and happy BG took notice and did what any competent GM does when people in charge ain’t cutting it.
 
Mangler said:
I don’t know much about his past gigs, but I like that he’s making moves this early. I do feel our S&C department was a complete joke and happy BG took notice and did what any competent GM does when people in charge ain’t cutting it.
Click to expand...
I'm happy about the changes to the training dept.
 
#Texans VP player personnel Brian Gaine says it’s very important team gets faster at every position. pic.twitter.com/L2XDgk0oPj

— RosterWatch (@RosterWatch) February 28, 2018


Gaine says he’s "optimisitic" that Deshaun Watson will be able to work in some capacity for OTAs #Texans

— RosterWatch (@RosterWatch) February 28, 2018


Gaine: We’re going to try and improve the roster from spot 1 all the way to 90. #Texans #NFLCombine2018

— Deepi Sidhu (@DeepSlant) February 28, 2018


Brian Gaine: "I know we don’t have a first or second round pick… We feel like we have a good core in place. We certainly have needs and we’ll address those needs in free agency or the draft."

— Houston Texans (@HoustonTexans) February 28, 2018
 
TheKDog said:
This is a weird comment. We aren't gonna improve on Watson, Hopkins, Clowney etc
Click to expand...

A nice dose of GMspeak...Weird would have been "we going to improve on players 7 through 68. The top 5-6 or so are among the very best in the game and if we ever have to suit up more than a couple of those guys who play in the 4th quarter of the last pre-season game we are F'd anyway."
 
After getting a taste of Brian Gaine's approach to team building -- I'm interested in getting you guys' thoughts on contrasting styles of Gaine vs RSmith if it's even possible this early in Gaine's tenure. Not wanting this to major on a RSmith only took choir boys discussion -- but it seems fair to mention if it's a contrast in style.

It's my understanding that Gaine is from the Parcells/Belichik mold. From what I've studied -- that seems more of a style that favors mid level contracts to accommodate better quality across the spectrum of the team rather than big contracts for star players leaving less for other positions. Accurate? Seems to me that the FA activity so far lines up with this approach.

Seems like RSmith took a different approach w/ fat contracts for JJ/Nuk off the top of my head?

I haven't had time to study up on Clowney's situation -- but if he's tradeable at this point, wondering if there isn't a Richard Seymour with the Patriots type deal being orchestrated. Seems highly likely to me if Gaine is truly from the Belichik mold.
 
Max said:
After getting a taste of Brian Gaine's approach to team building -- I'm interested in getting you guys' thoughts on contrasting styles of Gaine vs RSmith if it's even possible this early in Gaine's tenure. Not wanting this to major on a RSmith only took choir boys discussion -- but it seems fair to mention if it's a contrast in style.

It's my understanding that Gaine is from the Parcells/Belichik mold. From what I've studied -- that seems more of a style that favors mid level contracts to accommodate better quality across the spectrum of the team rather than big contracts for star players leaving less for other positions. Accurate? Seems to me that the FA activsomity so far lines up with this approach.

Seems like RSmith took a different approach w/ fat contracts for JJ/Nuk off the top of my head?

I haven't had time to study up on Clowney's situation -- but if he's tradeable at this point, wondering if there isn't a Richard Seymour with the Patriots type deal being orchestrated. Seems highly likely to me if Gaine is truly from the Belichik mold.
Click to expand...

I think it's way to early to compare him versus Smith. Personally I didn't like the hire. Just seemed like another " yes man" for Mcnair or OB, but we'll see on that as well.

Belicheck wasn't nearly the great GM a lot of people seem to think. He gets away with way more stuff because Brady covers up so many holes and weaknesses on that team. Plus, Brady takes pay cuts which allows NE to negotiate easier with a lot of their players because they can always rely on "we don't even pay Brady that much." Belicheck is pretty good at finding a lot of mid level players though that fit his scheme that are multi purpose players. He's had some hits and misses in the draft just like anybody. Overall he does pretty well in FA though, but again Brady is able to make average players a lot better on the Oline and with the skill players. Belicheck gets this reputation for being a defensive Guru, but they've been anything but that in a lot of the post seasons that the Pats are always in the AFC championship or the SB.

I haven't been that impressed with this first off season, but the Texans haven't had a lot to work withers far as draft picks so Gaine hasn't exactly been in a situation of great advantage. Picking up Honey Badger was a nice piece, but I wish it would have been for more than one season. I'll take it though. I think you'd have to wait until next off season is over to make a decisive answer to your question. Plus, who knows how much freedom he'll have any way under Mcnair.
 
Max said:
After getting a taste of Brian Gaine's approach to team building -- I'm interested in getting you guys' thoughts on contrasting styles of Gaine vs RSmith if it's even possible this early in Gaine's tenure. Not wanting this to major on a RSmith only took choir boys discussion -- but it seems fair to mention if it's a contrast in style.

It's my understanding that Gaine is from the Parcells/Belichik mold. From what I've studied -- that seems more of a style that favors mid level contracts to accommodate better quality across the spectrum of the team rather than big contracts for star players leaving less for other positions. Accurate? Seems to me that the FA activity so far lines up with this approach.

Seems like RSmith took a different approach w/ fat contracts for JJ/Nuk off the top of my head?

I haven't had time to study up on Clowney's situation -- but if he's tradeable at this point, wondering if there isn't a Richard Seymour with the Patriots type deal being orchestrated. Seems highly likely to me if Gaine is truly from the Belichik mold.
Click to expand...

They both bargain shop in FA. Lets hope Gaine is better at this than Ricky. Ditto the draft in rds 2-5.
 
I don't see much difference other than not front loading every contract. He's getting who the coaches want.
 
Max said:
It's my understanding that Gaine is from the Parcells/Belichik mold. From what I've studied -- that seems more of a style that favors mid level contracts to accommodate better quality across the spectrum of the team rather than big contracts for star players leaving less for other positions. Accurate? Seems to me that the FA activity so far lines up with this approach.

Seems like RSmith took a different approach w/ fat contracts for JJ/Nuk off the top of my head?
Click to expand...

Are you suggesting if Gaine was GM a few years ago, he wouldn’t have extended Watt or Nuk? If that’s the case, we’re in trouble!
 
dream_team said:
Are you suggesting if Gaine was GM a few years ago, he wouldn’t have extended Watt or Nuk? If that’s the case, we’re in trouble!
Click to expand...
I asked if people were seeing him as the type of GM that may not have -- didn't really suggest it because I don't know the answer.

As far as being in trouble -- we've been in trouble since the JJ contract -- 9-7, 9-7, 9-7, 4-12. Trouble might be a bit of a stretch, but I think it's safe to say that we've been in decline since the contract. Was this all because of the JJ contract? No, but what would we have parlayed the trade into and would we have been worse off if we traded him? I don't think so.

I would say the Nuk deal has worked out better so far because of JJ's injuries -- but that's part of the consideration in locking up a lot of $ in one guy.

Even with hindsight, it's difficult to say where we'd be w/out Nuk or Watt. I think a strong case can be made that in the salary cap era, to build a 'dynasty' type team -- you have to be selective in who you're willing to tie up a big chunk of your cap $. QB, edge rusher or shutdown cb seem like the only positions worth considering this for (maybe wr). Be willing to trade your stars at their peak to keep the pipeline going. At least this is where I hope we're headed w/ Gaine.
 
What do they say about prospects coming into the league? “Let’s see how they do in next couple of years before we know actual grade”. Time will tell, but so far so good :barman:
 
From the presser today:

Texans general manager Brian Gaine: 'Certainly, there's a challenge not having a first-round or second-round pick'

Gaine on not having a first or second round pick: "We are going to get four players in the top 103 of this draft.... We're very positive we'll get contributors there."

Texans general manager Brian Gaine said on case by case basis would entertain trading up, but historically he would rather trade down to acquire more selections

Texans GM Brian Gaine said he thinks what team did in free agency, especially oline and DB, won't have to draft for need.

Texans GM Brian Gaine: "My philosophy is if we can draft, groom and extend our own, that's what I want to do.'

Gaine: "The players we've acquired on the offensive line and secondary gives us flexibility to draft the best player available."

Brian Gaine: 'We put a great deal of time into the priority free agent process. One notable last year was Dylan Cole. Others Ka'imi Fairbairn and Joel Heath. It starts with having a vision for the player'

Brian Gaine on UDFA process: 'I call that the eighth round'

Brian Gaine on QB draft class: 'They all have their strengths. They all have their weaknesses.'

On not having a first-round pick with Deshaun Watson trade last year: 'That's the price you pay'

Brian Gaine on Jadeveon Clowney: 'I'm optimistic that something will get done.'

Brian Gaine on what he likes about Jadeveon Clowney: 'Height, weight speed, pass rush ability disruptive player, plays the run well. We're doing our best to fortify [roster] and we'd like him to be a part of it.'

Gaine: "We feel very confident in our starting quarterback." #DW4

Brian Gaine: 'When the opportunity presents itself to be aggressive, we'll consider that.'
 
AngryNateFTW said:
Would you guys rather have a 4th or two 5th's?

I want to keep at least two of our 3rd round picks, I'm fine to move around after that to get players that our staff likes.
Click to expand...

If anything i’d like to trade down packaging the 1st 3rd and a 6th to get an extra 4th or 5th.

3rd-5th round is going to have a ton of value this year.
 
Brain Gaine on how the Texans can move up or down in the draft

By: Drew Dougherty


The Texans could move up in the NFL Draft next week.

But they could also move down.

According to General Manager Brian Gaine, it'll all be viewed on a "case-by-case" basis.

Houston's without a first and second round pick this year because of a pair of 2017 trades with the Cleveland Browns. The Texans first pick is in the third round, at 68th overall. Gaine, in his first draft as GM, explained why the Texans could move up in the Draft.

"If we're honoring the draft board, and we see a player that potentially might be slipping down the Draft board and we have the opportunity to go get him, and be aggressive, we'll measure that as well," Gaine said.


He also pointed out that the Texans could also be in a position to move down in the Draft.

"Historically, I would much prefer to go down, rather than go up," Gaine said. "You get more at bats to get more good players."

With a trio of third round selections, and a fourth round pick that is 103rd overall, Gaine said the Texans will definitely be in position to acquire "contributors" for 2018 and beyond.

"If you can get four of the top 100 players in the Draft, you're doing pretty good," Gaine said. "Perhaps that might not be player one through 50, but based on your grades and your rankings, if you have a chance to get four of those guys, I'll be happy."

The Texans own the following eight picks in next week's Draft:

3rd Round (68th overall)
3rd Round (80th overall, from Seattle)
3rd Round (98th overall, compensatory)
4th Round (103rd overall)
6th Round (177th overall)
6th Round (211th overall, compensatory)
6th Round (214th overall, compensatory)
7th Round (222nd overall)
 
JB said:
Don't mean to :deadhorse but forum rules dictate posting a link when quoting an outside source... something to do with copywrite laws methinks
Click to expand...


Again I don't have a link. Thus the reason why I told you to download the Texans app. Not only that but I posted the writer as well. So please get off of my back. You're the only one complaining, Why?
 
Texansballer74 said:
Again I don't have a link. Thus the reason why I told you to download the Texans app. Not only that but I posted the writer as well. So please get off of my back. You're the only one complaining, Why?
Click to expand...

Again, I'm not on your back. I'm here on my PC, not a phone so there is no Texans app. You're the only one that blatantly disregards the forum rules,why?

I'm a member of this forum who relies on this site to get my news and have discussions about the Texans and don't want this site to get shut down because of your hard-headed behavior

since when is asking for a link complaining?
 
Last edited:
JB said:
Again, I'm not on your back. I'm here on my PC, not a phone so there is no Texans app. You're the only one that blatantly disregards the forum rules,why?

I'm a member of this forum who relies on this site to get my news and have discussions about the Texans and don't want this site to get shut down because of your hard-headed behavior

since when is asking for a link complaining?
Click to expand...


Every damn body on here bend the rules. The political talk has been heavy on the sports forum. Members disrespecting each other on a regular.

And again I don't have no damn link. If I did I would have posted it. I've posted links several times when I find something on the net. So please don't tell me or paint that picture as if I blatantly disregard this forum rules like that. Because that's a bold face fib.

You do have a phone, so download the freaking app
 
infantrycak said:
Link

Not on providing links. And how juvenile a response, "mom, he did it too..."

Simmer down, JB is correct and attempting to help.

Are you telling us you cannot post links in the app? If you can cut & paste, you can post a link.
Click to expand...
Some apps don’t show the address. I’ve done the same thing. You have to google story to find address.
 
mussop said:
Some apps don’t show the address. I’ve done the same thing. You have to google story to find address.
Click to expand...

I've never seen one you couldn't get to the address to an article although they do bury them at times. In any event, then he needs to Google the story. We can't have copyrighted material without links. It's why we also ask people to not quote articles in their entirety.

Appreciate everyone's assistance on this.
 
infantrycak said:
Link

Not on providing links. And how juvenile a response, "mom, he did it too..."

Simmer down, JB is correct and attempting to help.

Are you telling us you cannot post links in the app? If you can cut & paste, you can post a link.
Click to expand...


Simmer down, what. I already explained the first time the reason why I didn't or couldn't post a freaking link. I'm getting the info off of an app.

And for the last time, there is no link. If it was I would have posted it like I always do.

There is a an inbox/conversation. Instead of charging a person up, how about using that tool.

I was not posting information without a link on purpose.


But hey yall can have it. I'm out
 
JB said:
Again, I'm not on your back. I'm here on my PC, not a phone so there is no Texans app. You're the only one that blatantly disregards the forum rules,why?

I'm a member of this forum who relies on this site to get my news and have discussions about the Texans and don't want this site to get shut down because of your hard-headed behavior

since when is asking for a link complaining?
Click to expand...
Not true, about being the only one not posting a link. I’ve cut way back in my comments because my source of information is often hard copy newspaper that I read over breakfast. The “old, long time standard” is that you give credit to the source. You obviously can’t link to a newspaper. So I follow the old ways, listing author, paper and date and using quotes. This is unacceptable to Cak, who gets on my case, claiming we live in the computer age, and there’s no excuse for me not to waste my time going to a computer and finding a link to use.
 
Number19 said:
Not true, about being the only one not posting a link. I’ve cut way back in my comments because my source of information is often hard copy newspaper that I read over breakfast. The “old, long time standard” is that you give credit to the source. You obviously can’t link to a newspaper. So I follow the old ways, listing author, paper and date and using quotes. This is unacceptable to Cak, who gets on my case, claiming we live in the computer age, and there’s no excuse for me not to waste my time going to a computer and finding a link to use.
Click to expand...

What’s a newspaper?
 
Number19 said:
Not true, about being the only one not posting a link. ....
Click to expand...

So are you saying you lied in the past when you claimed to be paraphrasing? That's the only reason your posts haven't been deleted.

If you're not lying then shut up with your off topic misrepresentation.

Truth be told you want to misrepresent articles but anyway, the link requirement is for copied copyrighted material.
 
  • Like
Reactions: JB
Number19 said:
Not true, about being the only one not posting a link. I’ve cut way back in my comments because my source of information is often hard copy newspaper that I read over breakfast. The “old, long time standard” is that you give credit to the source. You obviously can’t link to a newspaper. So I follow the old ways, listing author, paper and date and using quotes. This is unacceptable to Cak, who gets on my case, claiming we live in the computer age, and there’s no excuse for me not to waste my time going to a computer and finding a link to use.
Click to expand...

If you use quotes, then provide the source and a link so that those that don't have the (app!) can enjoy the info
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top