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We just need to find a solid FS in the backfield and let Pollard do what he's supposed to which is knock the krap outta people. He's like having an extra LB that can hit so I would keep him just to see if anything changes in his game next season.

We don't need an extra LB with two probowl LBs, we need at least 4 DBs who can cover though.
 
We just need to find a solid FS in the backfield and let Pollard do what he's supposed to which is knock the krap outta people. He's like having an extra LB that can hit so I would keep him just to see if anything changes in his game next season.

for whatever reason Texans have never valued FS position enough to draft one early. It sure would have been nice if they could have moved up like San Diego moved up for Ryan Mathews, targeting Earl Thomas, UT....

or traded up in 2nd for Nate Allen. they even could have just stayed pat or moved back & taken Morgan Burnett GB traded up to early 3rd #71 to take him.
User: MrShokner
Date/Time: 04/16/2010 - 8:24AM CDT
Predicted Round: Round 2

Blessed with protoytpical size. But don't expect teams to wait long to nab a natural playmaker like Burnett. Read & React: Reliable instincts for the position. Diagnoses the play and accelerates quickly to the ball, showing little wasted motion. Understands his role as the last line of defense and takes good angles to limit the damage. Zone Coverage: An alert zone defender, Burnett understands his role and the role of his teammates. Run Support: Willing and active in run support. Attacks the line of scrimmage, but will take questionable angles to the ball and is too often forced to re-direct at the last moment and latch on for a drag-down tackle, rather than applying a forceful pop. Willing to take on blockers, but prefers to elude and make the tackle himself.

First thing Texans need to figure out is who will be coaching & calling the shots. Then they will assess the current roster talent @ each position. I can't see keeping Barber or Molden any longer so this may help move FS position higher in FA/Draft needs. I also think they should make the move with McManis to see if he fits the bill as at least depth @ FS. He has about the right size, long wingspan & cover ability over Wilson or Nolan. Then they will need to deceide if they want Kareem & Quinn to be their starting CB's?
 
for whatever reason Texans have never valued FS position enough to draft one early. It sure would have been nice if they could have moved up like San Diego moved up for Ryan Mathews, targeting Earl Thomas, UT....

or traded up in 2nd for Nate Allen. they even could have just stayed pat or moved back & taken Morgan Burnett GB traded up to early 3rd #71 to take him.

First thing Texans need to figure out is who will be coaching & calling the shots. Then they will assess the current roster talent @ each position. I can't see keeping Barber or Molden any longer so this may help move FS position higher in FA/Draft needs. I also think they should make the move with McManis to see if he fits the bill as at least depth @ FS. He has about the right size, long wingspan & cover ability over Wilson or Nolan. Then they will need to deceide if they want Kareem & Quinn to be their starting CB's?

Agreed, who's calling the shots means everything. Assume its Cowher, he switches to a 3/4 defense. How many pieces need to be added? IYO

I think that the NT should be a vet signed in FA with Mitchell,Lewis and a 4/5th rd draft pick in the 4/5th rd. That will get you by for a couple of yrs. Signing a cheap vet S like Whitner and drafting a S in rd 3/4 would be the way to go. IMHO

The Texans are very thin at OLB. How do you feel about drafting Miller at pick # 8 or so?

A guy that I like as an OLB that can be had later in the draft is Bruce Miller OLB UCF. He has a chance to be a good 3/4 OLB.

The best chance of getting multiple draft picks in this draft is to be picking 5th and trading down to a team like Cleveland for A.J. Green. Even though the Texans need defense in the worst way if Green was there at #5 I would take him if a trade down opportunity doesn't arise.

What rd do you think the compensation pick for Dunta will be? 'm thinking 3rd. If that's the case it would be huge. You could fill both S spots in that rd. My favorites that will probably be avaiable are the Fla. S Black and Hill. They would both be huge upgrades over what the Texans currently have at the S position.
 
I´d be thrilled if we could get either Peterson, Amukamara or Fairley. We could put Peterson at FS, or move KJ or Quinn over to FS.

Signing some big FAs like Champ Bailey or a big DT would certainly help.

In the later rounds we should look at OLB, O-Line help, another safety and maybe a WR.
 
Final Results Before Christmas Big Board


1. Andrew Luck, QB, Stanford - 6'4 - 235 Only question is will he declare?
2. Patrick Peterson, DB, LSU - 6'1 - 222 Don't think he will end up this high, but man its gonna be fun to watch him play on Sundays
3. A.J. Green, WR, Georgia - 6'4 - 212 Love his big play capability, next Moss.
4. Prince Amukamara, DB, Nebraska - 6'1 - 205
Tenacious cover corner, has ability to be shutdown type.
5. Da'Quan Bowers, DE, Clemson - 6'4 - 280 Most explosive DE in draft with size to match.
6. Nick Fairley, DT, Auburn - 6'5 - 298 Came on strong this season for #1 Auburn, high motor DT.
7. Marcell Dareus, DT, Alabama - 6'3 - 306 Could play the nose, But fits the 4-3 UT position perfectly. disruptive size & speed @ point of attack.
8. Robert Quinn, DE, North Carolina - 6'5 - 268 Some think he's the next Peppers, must be more consistant.
9. Jake Locker, QB, Washington - 6'3 - 230
Everything the Pro's look for size, arm strength & mobility.
10. Cameron Newton, QB, Auburn - 6'6 - 250 Similar to Locker, but far more athletic. however have some character concerns?
11. Adrian Clayborn, DE, Iowa - 6'4" - 285
Despite down year can fit a 3-4 DE or 4-3 DE.
12. Justin Blackmon, WR, Oklahoma State - 6'1 - 205 If he returns to Cowboys will be a Top 10 pick next draft. But right now ahead of Dez Bryant @ same stage if he comes out.
13. Stephen Paea, DT, Oregon State - 6'1 - 311
Maybe a little high but kid is a terrific, high motor, instinctive & strong DT.
14. Ryan Mallett, QB, Arkansas - 6'6 - 238 Some are going to love him others hate him, has mad game.
15. Von Miller, DE, Texas A&M - 6'3 - 243
Another reach here but gotta support Texas Football. Can play OLB in 3-4 or RDE in a 4-3.
16. Brandon Harris, CB, Miami - 5'11 - 195 Most are saying he is the 3rd best CB in the draft. Looks the part but not as productive as one would like this high.
17. Mark Ingram, RB, Alabama - 5'10 - 215 Heck of a RB this late, could go higher to a team needing a true #1.
18. Allen Bailey, DE, Miami - 6'4 - 288
All the talent in the world to dominate, but inconsistant at best.
19. Derek Sherrod, OT, Mississippi State - 6'5 - 305
Matter of system who is the top tackle but once selected they could start dropping like flys.
20. Julio Jones, WR, Alabama - 6'4 - 220 A steal here, love the way he uses body position to protect the ball, very smart well coached WR. Could easliy be sold on moving him higher per team needs.
21. Ryan Kerrigan, DE, Purdue - 6'4 - 263
Ourlads has Ryan rated the #1 senior prospect, take it for what its worth.
22. Tyron Smith, OT USC - 6-6 - 290
Recently threw his name into the draft, a top LT prospect.
23. Cameron Jordan, DE, California - 6'4 - 283
Expect him to rise up board because of athletic ability/combine.
24. Aaron Williams, CB, Texas - 6'1 - 192
Once again a little home cook'in, but he does play the coveted CB position.
25. Akeem Ayers, LB, UCLA - 6'4 - 255 Great playmaker, think of a quicker, stronger DeMeco Ryans.
26. Drake Nevis, DT LSU - 6'1 - 295
Would be a great addition for the Texans if he slips into 2nd rd. changed him to 1st rd. based off his outstanding DT play in SEC.
27. Jonathan Baldwin, WR, Pittsburgh - 6'5 - 230
Great size speed combination like Pitt alum Fitzgerald.
28. Nate Solder, OT, Colorado - 6'9 - 315
Some think he is the best tackle because of his size advantage & quick footwork.
29. Janoris Jenkins, CB, Florida - 5'11 - 186 Can really lock down when needed, pretty solid end of 1st CB.
30. Stefen Wisniewski, C/OG, Penn State, 6'3 298
Sticking with Wisniewski, off production & pedigree, one of the safest bets in this draft class.
31. Rahim Moore, FS, UCLA - 6'1 - 195 Will help his draft stock with excellent forty, show great range on tape, playmaking ability & size for NFL FS position.
32. J.J. Watts, DE/DT, Wisconsin - 6'6 - 290 Sleeper pick who could rise up every 3-4 teams board.

Should just mention, there are several underclassman included who have yet to officially declare early entry into the NFL 2011 Draft pool. I will highlight those in bold. Once offiical will return to normal font while others who decline will need to be replaced with new prospect. I shall try to keep up but would appreciate everyones input if they have anything to add...

For example: Aaron Williams, CB UT & Tyron Smith, OT USC have announced they're coming out.
 
how would everybody feel if the Texans addressed DL with Stephen Paea, DT, Oregon State? If our draft board is close to accurate it's not that much of a stretch (we have him ranked #13) to address a primary need on defense. I doubt Fairley or Dareus are still options picking 11th.
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If he's there

With the 11th pick in the NFL draft the Houston Texans select

Von Miller LB TX. A&M

BTW, he would be a good pick.
 
If he's there

With the 11th pick in the NFL draft the Houston Texans select

Von Miller LB TX. A&M

BTW, he would be a good pick.

This would be a terrible pick. Even switching to the 3-4, this is a reach. And unless we switch, it's a horrible pick. Even then, it's like drafting Duane Brown or Babin in the first round. That bad.
 
how would everybody feel if the Texans addressed DL with Stephen Paea, DT, Oregon State? If our draft board is close to accurate it's not that much of a stretch (we have him ranked #13) to address a primary need on defense. I doubt Fairley or Dareus are still options picking 11th.
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I think he would be a good pick for us in the 1st regardless of whether we run a 4-3 or a 3-4. He might be a little light (310 to 315) for a 3-4 NT but I hear he is very strong. Wouldn't mind getting him and the Oklahoma FS in the first 2 rounds.
 
SCOUTS INC.'S TOP 32 Player Pos. School Grade

1. Andrew Luck* QB Stanford 98
2. Da'Quan Bowers* DE Clemson 97
3. Nick Fairley DT Auburn 97
4. Patrick Peterson* CB LSU 97
5. A.J. Green* WR Georgia 97
6. Robert Quinn* DE N. Carolina 96
7. Prince Amukamara CB Nebraska 96
8. Marcell Dareus* DT Alabama 96
9. Adrian Clayborn DE Iowa 95
10. Stephen Paea DT Oregon State 95
11. Janoris Jenkins* CB Florida 95
12. Von Miller OLB Texas A&M 95
13. Ryan Kerrigan DE Purdue 94
14. Nate Solder OT Colorado 94
15. Akeem Ayers* OLB UCLA 93
16. Gabe Carimi OT Wisconsin 93
17. Julio Jones WR Alabama 93
18. Cameron Jordan DE California 93
19. Mike Pouncey C Florida 93
20. Blaine Gabbert* QB Missouri 93
21. Anthony Castonzo OT Boston Coll. 92
22. Cameron Heyward DE Ohio State 92
23. Jake Locker QB Washington 92
24. Mark Ingram* RB Alabama 92
25. Justin Blackmon* WR Okla. State 92
26. Tyron Smith* OT USC 91
27. Allen Bailey DE Miami 91
28. Drake Nevis DT LSU 91
29. Cam Newton* QB Auburn 90
30. Corey Liuget* DT Illinois 90
31. Ryan Mallett* QB Arkansas 90
32. Brandon Harris* CB Miami (FL) 90
* denotes draft-eligible underclassman

I would like to make some adjustments but I like ours more & we did it over one week ago. props y'all!
 
Anyone else want to re-work our Big Board? obviously we need to start with #1. Haven't heard if Peterson has made annoucement, should declare after game Friday. Could a WR be rated #1 (AJ Green) or DT (Fairley/Dareus) maybe DE (Bowers/Quinn)?
 
Anyone else want to re-work our Big Board? obviously we need to start with #1. Haven't heard if Peterson has made annoucement, should declare after game Friday. Could a WR be rated #1 (AJ Green) or DT (Fairley/Dareus) maybe DE (Bowers/Quinn)?

Why don't we wait until after the deadling for declaring? Then we will know for sure who is coming out and who is staying.
 
Anyone else want to re-work our Big Board? obviously we need to start with #1. Haven't heard if Peterson has made annoucement, should declare after game Friday. Could a WR be rated #1 (AJ Green) or DT (Fairley/Dareus) maybe DE (Bowers/Quinn)?

1. Once you have a Big Board that you like all you have to do is delete any underclassmen that stay in school. That shouldn't have any basis on prospects jumping one another unless you do updates after watching more players, workouts, etc.

2. Best prospect is best prospect. I totally could see AJ Green being up there. Calvin Johnson was the #1 prospect in 2007 (IMO).
 
I really wanted Kerrigan when the Texans were running a 4-3. Not wild about him in the 3-4, but I will go back and look at some film.
 
I really wanted Kerrigan when the Texans were running a 4-3. Not wild about him in the 3-4, but I will go back and look at some film.

yeah, me too. Kerrigan seems more like a natural 4-3 DE, good pass rushing skills, relentless pursuit plus solid in run support, don't see that explosive edge speed like a Von Miller or Dontay Moch who better fit Wade Phillips 3-4 OLB job requirements.
 
A darkhorse mid-round pick for me would be a guy like Mark Herzlich. He played OLB if I remember correctly before having to battle cancer. Health is a concern here but the risk is worth it. At 6'4" 238-lbs (Yes, he needs to bulk up) he has a non-stop motor and can shed blocks with ease and would make a perfect OLB in our 3-4 scheme.
 
yeah, me too. Kerrigan seems more like a natural 4-3 DE, good pass rushing skills, relentless pursuit plus solid in run support, don't see that explosive edge speed like a Von Miller or Dontay Moch who better fit Wade Phillips 3-4 OLB job requirements.

Perhaps he is a better 4-3 prospect. I don't think we'll know till the combine. He is not going to be a speed edge rusher though, but he's very solid all around. Connor Barwin fits the speed rusher mold just fine. We just need a disruptor of any kind right now. Somebody in the front 7 that can make plays. If Miller isn't worth #11, there's no reason we should reach on him because he's a speed rusher.
 
A darkhorse mid-round pick for me would be a guy like Mark Herzlich. He played OLB if I remember correctly before having to battle cancer. Health is a concern here but the risk is worth it. At 6'4" 238-lbs (Yes, he needs to bulk up) he has a non-stop motor and can shed blocks with ease and would make a perfect OLB in our 3-4 scheme.

The mad stork jr .
 
What does anybody think about Aldon Smith at # 11?

He's fast and explosive off the edge. He's going to test out great at the combine. Although he may be a little stiffer in the hips than you would like.

Smith's alot better athlete than Kerrigan. IMHO
 
What does anybody think about Aldon Smith at # 11?

He's fast and explosive off the edge. He's going to test out great at the combine. Although he may be a little stiffer in the hips than you would like.

Smith's alot better athlete than Kerrigan. IMHO



I just don't see guys who are 6'5" and have played with their hands in the dirt being able to convert as OLBs. Unless if we were running a D similar to Miami's which uses heavy OLBs, Wade seems to use guys who are 6'3" or 6'4" 260-Lbs max and relies on them being able to use their speed and quickness to make plays.

Guys like Kerrigan, Quinn, and Smith are strictly 4-3 DEs IMO but I'm not sure if they would be able to play in 3-4 unless Wade wants to implement hybrid defenses.
 
What does anybody think about Aldon Smith at # 11?

He's fast and explosive off the edge. He's going to test out great at the combine. Although he may be a little stiffer in the hips than you would like.

Smith's alot better athlete than Kerrigan. IMHO

No, because he went to the wrong school.
 
Big Board Group Thread Continued January​

1.Nick Fairley, Auburn, (Jr.), 6-4, 298 moved up from 6th
2. Patrick Peterson, DB, LSU - 6'1 - 222
3. A.J. Green, WR, Georgia - 6'4 - 212
4. Prince Amukamara, DB, Nebraska - 6'1 - 205
5. Da'Quan Bowers, DE, Clemson - 6'4 - 280
6. Blaine Gabbert, Missouri, (Jr.), 6-5 235 decision to declare, top rated QB with no Luck
7. Marcell Dareus, DT, Alabama - 6'3 - 306
8. Robert Quinn, DE, North Carolina - 6'5 - 268
9. Jake Locker, QB, Washington - 6'3 - 230
10. Cameron Newton, QB, Auburn - 6'6 - 250
11. Adrian Clayborn, DE, Iowa - 6'4" - 285
12. J.J. Watts, DE/DT, Wisconsin - 6'6 - 290 Blackmon out, Watt up
13. Stephen Paea, DT, Oregon State - 6'1 - 311
14. Ryan Mallett, QB, Arkansas - 6'6 - 238
15. Von Miller, DE, Texas A&M - 6'3 - 243
16. Brandon Harris, CB, Miami - 5'11 - 195
17. Mark Ingram, RB, Alabama - 5'10 - 215
18. Allen Bailey, DE, Miami - 6'4 - 288
19. Derek Sherrod, OT, Mississippi State - 6'5 - 305
20. Julio Jones, WR, Alabama - 6'4 - 220
21. Ryan Kerrigan, DE, Purdue - 6'4 - 263
22. Tyron Smith, OT USC - 6-6 - 290
23. Cameron Jordan, DE, California - 6'4 - 283
24. Aaron Williams, CB, Texas - 6'1 - 192
25. Akeem Ayers, LB, UCLA - 6'4 - 255
26. Drake Nevis, DT LSU - 6'1 - 295
27. Jonathan Baldwin, WR, Pittsburgh - 6'5 - 230
28. Nate Solder, OT, Colorado - 6'9 - 315
29. Kyle Rudolph, Notre Dame, (Jr.), 6-6, 265 Janoris Jenkins out, added per request from last time
30. Stefen Wisniewski, C/OG, Penn State, 6'3 298
31. Rahim Moore, FS, UCLA - 6'1 - 195
32. Mikel LeShoure, Illinois, (Jr.), 6-0, 230 NFL powerback, new to list as Watt moved up


Ok fellow mocksters, time to sharpen your pencils & get back on this. only a couple more players to decalre like Cam Newton. highlighted changes only, some moved up to replace those who dropped out others in bold are first times.
of course we can adjust any of them its just a starting point based off the work we as a group have already contributed.
 
I don't know about 4 qb's in the top 15. And have we forgot about Mike Pouncy? I think with the success that his brother had, he will surely go in the late 1st.
 
I don't know about 4 qb's in the top 15. And have we forgot about Mike Pouncy? I think with the success that his brother had, he will surely go in the late 1st.

He's got a note from his mom that he's gotta play on the same team as his brother .
 
I could see Gabbert,Newton,Mallett going in the top 15.

Locker probably will fall to the bottom of the 1st or top of the 2nd.

Locker and Gabbert will probably be the top 2 QB's to come out of this draft.

Another late rd QB to look out for is Andy Dalton. Smart/Mobile/Good Arm
 
I don't know about 4 qb's in the top 15. And have we forgot about Mike Pouncy? I think with the success that his brother had, he will surely go in the late 1st.

have no problem if that's what you guys want to do. I'm not a huge advocate of a TE going in the 1st coming off injury, if we can agree to take Rudolph off the reigns. start with 29 if that sounds about right? have not moved any of the other picks we made/agreed to as a group.
 
I don't know about 4 qb's in the top 15. And have we forgot about Mike Pouncy? I think with the success that his brother had, he will surely go in the late 1st.

I saw one game of his playing Centre. TERRIBLE Snapper of the ball.
 
Way early. I have him as a 3rd/4th right now, but I could see him moving into the second. The first though? No way.

not too long, 2011 East-West Shrine Game Set for Jan. 22

Wade Phillips is coaching the West, so he will be coaching Dontay Moch first hand & while I can't see his stock skyrocket into the 1st rd. he could very well earn a solid 2nd rd. grade? Ian Williams, NT Notre Dame should also get a look possibly 3rd/4th rd. grade? I'm going to really be interested in how well Boise State DE/OLB Ryan Winterswke he reminds me of a poor mans Barwin.

here is my last mock I did a couple weeks ago-

Texans Rounds 1,2,3,4,5,6,7
Round 1, Pick# 11 - Stephen Paea, DT, 6-1 309 Texans fill long sought after inside presence 3-4 NT/4-3 UT. blessed with rare combination of quickness & strength adding much needed playmaking nasty to Texans DL.
Round 2, Pick# 10 - Chase Minnifield, CB, 6-0 185 Virginia, CB should help weak secondary production. Chase combination of cover ability & run support give him a shot to start sometime as a rookie.
Round 3, Pick# 9 - Jaiquawn Jarrett, FS, 6-0 202 Temple Owl is a team leader, very smart with excellent range & tackle technique. Texans need to upgrad FS in the worst kind of way.
Round 4, Pick# 8 - Mark Herzlich, OLB, 6-3 238 Texans took Sharpton in the 4th instead of another TE & that proved to be a blessing. Texans need to adjust roster @ LB Mark has flexability to play anywhere needed.
Round 5, Pick# 7 - Ryan Winterswyk, DE/OLB, 6-3 263 Boise State Ryan Winterswyk played himself into the national spotlight, he would give the Texans some insurance as Connor Barwin comes back from devastating injury.
Round 6, Pick# 13 - Alex Linnenkohl, C, 6-02 303 Texans took OG Shelly last year & he made a name for himself on the practice squad. They bring back a solid core here but they like to develop them slowly & Myers is entering his 7th season.
Round 7, Pick# 12 - Derek Epperson, P, 6-3 230 Baylor home grown product to replace the aging one Matt Turk. Who says a 7th rd. picks can't start as rookies?
 
A guy who I don't see mentioned much here is Justin Houston out of Georgia, great pass rushing abilty with an explosive first step and good size at 6'3 260lbs.

Also has experience playing in a 3-4 at Georgia. Right now he's projected as a late first rounder but I could easily see him as a top 15- 20 pick come draft day.
 
A guy who I don't see mentioned much here is Justin Houston out of Georgia, great pass rushing abilty with an explosive first step and good size at 6'3 260lbs.

Also has experience playing in a 3-4 at Georgia. Right now he's projected as a late first rounder but I could easily see him as a top 15- 20 pick come draft day.

Its hard to get alot of love on a defense that went 6-7. Just doesnt get alot of pub. He will get his chance to move up in the eyes of the nation in the combine. But I am sure the NFL scouts are well aware of Mr. Houston.
 
Discuss our current Big Board.

first overall pick up for debate, I would like to move Prince Amukamara down to the 9-12 range, as I think his draft stock has fallen a bit, still waiting on Cam to make it official but expect him to do so. I'm ok with Fairley, but he is certainly not a lock to grade out as the #1 overall prospect. thoughts/moves?

1.Nick Fairley, Auburn, (Jr.), 6-4, 298
2. Patrick Peterson, DB, LSU - 6'1 - 222
3. A.J. Green, WR, Georgia - 6'4 - 212
4. Prince Amukamara, DB, Nebraska - 6'1 - 205
5. Da'Quan Bowers, DE, Clemson - 6'4 - 280
6. Blaine Gabbert, Missouri, (Jr.), 6-5 235
7. Marcell Dareus, DT, Alabama - 6'3 - 306
8. Robert Quinn, DE, North Carolina - 6'5 - 268
9. Jake Locker, QB, Washington - 6'3 - 230
10. Cameron Newton, QB, Auburn - 6'6 - 250
11. Adrian Clayborn, DE, Iowa - 6'4" - 285
12. J.J. Watts, DE/DT, Wisconsin - 6'6 - 290
13. Stephen Paea, DT, Oregon State - 6'1 - 311
14. Ryan Mallett, QB, Arkansas - 6'6 - 238
15. Von Miller, DE, Texas A&M - 6'3 - 243
16. Brandon Harris, CB, Miami - 5'11 - 195
17. Mark Ingram, RB, Alabama - 5'10 - 215
18. Allen Bailey, DE, Miami - 6'4 - 288
19. Derek Sherrod, OT, Mississippi State - 6'5 - 305
20. Julio Jones, WR, Alabama - 6'4 - 220
21. Ryan Kerrigan, DE, Purdue - 6'4 - 263
22. Tyron Smith, OT USC - 6-6 - 290
23. Cameron Jordan, DE, California - 6'4 - 283
24. Aaron Williams, CB, Texas - 6'1 - 192
25. Akeem Ayers, LB, UCLA - 6'4 - 255
26. Drake Nevis, DT LSU - 6'1 - 295
27. Jonathan Baldwin, WR, Pittsburgh - 6'5 - 230
28. Nate Solder, OT, Colorado - 6'9 - 315
29. Kyle Rudolph, Notre Dame, (Jr.), 6-6, 265
30. Stefen Wisniewski, C/OG, Penn State, 6'3 298
31. Rahim Moore, FS, UCLA - 6'1 - 195
32. Mikel LeShoure, Illinois, (Jr.), 6-0, 230
 
IMO:

Ayers should be alot higher. Teens for sure.
Gabbert too high. But we have had this conversation before. What is so special about him? Or is he just the flavor of the month now that Luck went back to school? Help me out here guys?
I still like Prince top 8.
I dont think Fairley is #1, but I am fine with him there.
With Blackmon gone, I think Julio Jones should be around 15.
I would be ok with sliding Rudolph up a couple spots.
Also I am bleh on Newton. But I am indifferent because I know some sucker will draft him top 10.
 
not too long, 2011 East-West Shrine Game Set for Jan. 22

Wade Phillips is coaching the West, so he will be coaching Dontay Moch first hand & while I can't see his stock skyrocket into the 1st rd. he could very well earn a solid 2nd rd. grade? Ian Williams, NT Notre Dame should also get a look possibly 3rd/4th rd. grade? I'm going to really be interested in how well Boise State DE/OLB Ryan Winterswke he reminds me of a poor mans Barwin.

here is my last mock I did a couple weeks ago-

Ah, my way early comment was his position in the draft (1st round), as opposed to to early to predict draft slot.

Your round estimations look pretty close to what I have, so I am not going to debate there. I will say that I think Winterswyck ends up a DE, not a 3-4 OLB.
 
IMO:

Ayers should be alot higher. Teens for sure.
Gabbert too high. But we have had this conversation before. What is so special about him? Or is he just the flavor of the month now that Luck went back to school? Help me out here guys?
I still like Prince top 8.
I dont think Fairley is #1, but I am fine with him there.
With Blackmon gone, I think Julio Jones should be around 15.
I would be ok with sliding Rudolph up a couple spots.
Also I am bleh on Newton. But I am indifferent because I know some sucker will draft him top 10.

Agreed Ayers, Jones should move up. Gabbert is a commodity. I think he should have refined his game one more year but who can blame him once Luck pulled out. I do like his upside more than Locker or Newton so its hard to gauge. So for now move Prince down to #8 & just slide the others up one slot?

1. Nick Fairley, Auburn, (Jr.), 6-4, 298
2. Patrick Peterson, DB, LSU - 6'1 - 222
3. A.J. Green, WR, Georgia - 6'4 - 212
4. Da'Quan Bowers, DE, Clemson - 6'4 - 280
5. Blaine Gabbert, Missouri, (Jr.), 6-5 235
6. Marcell Dareus, DT, Alabama - 6'3 - 306
7. Robert Quinn, DE, North Carolina - 6'5 - 268
8. Prince Amukamara, DB, Nebraska - 6'1 - 205
 
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