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BADBOY's 2019 offseason FA, trade possibilities and draft thoughts

Daniel Jeremiah Top 50

1 Nick Bosa, Edge School: Ohio State | Year: Junior
2 Quinnen Williams, DT School: Alabama | Year: Sophomore (RS)
3 Josh Allen, Edge School: Kentucky | Year: Senior
4 Ed Oliver, DT 2 School: Houston | Year: Junior
5 T.J. Hockenson, TE School: Iowa | Year: Sophomore (RS)
6 Devin White, LB 2 School: LSU | Year: Junior
7 Christian Wilkins, DT 3 School: Clemson | Year: Senior
8 Josh Jacobs, RB 1 School: Alabama | Year: Junior
9 Devin Bush, LB 5 School: Michigan | Year: Junior
10 Rashan Gary, Edge 1 School: Michigan | Year: Junior
11 Kyler Murray, QB 1 School: Oklahoma | Year: Junior (RS)
12 Montez Sweat, Edge 2 School: Mississippi State | Year: Senior
13 Andre Dillard, OT 2 School: Washington State | Year: Senior (RS)
14 Jawaan Taylor, OT 1 School: Florida | Year: Junior
15 Noah Fant, TE School: Iowa | Year: Junior
16 Marquise Brown, WR School: Oklahoma | Year: Junior
17 Jeffery Simmons, DT 1 School: Mississippi State | Year: Junior
18 Garrett Bradbury, C 4 School: N.C. State | Year: Senior (RS)
19 D.K. Metcalf, WR 2 School: Mississippi | Year: Sophomore (RS)
20 Jonah Williams, OG 1 School: Alabama | Year: Junior
21 Dwayne Haskins, QB 1 School: Ohio State | Year: Sophomore (RS)
22 Clelin Ferrell, Edge 1 School: Clemson | Year: Junior (RS)
23 Johnathan Abram, S 2 School: Mississippi State | Year: Senior
24 Drew Lock, QB 1 School: Missouri | Year: Senior
25 Dexter Lawrence, DT 7 School: Clemson | Year: Junior
26 Byron Murphy, CB School: Washington | Year: Sophomore (RS)
27 Brian Burns, Edge 3 School: Florida State | Year: Junior
28 Irv Smith Jr., TE 1 School: Alabama | Year: Junior
29 Rock Ya-Sin, CB 1 School: Temple | Year: Senior
30 Cody Ford, OT 1 School: Oklahoma | Year: Junior (RS)
31 Deandre Baker, CB 1 School: Georgia | Year: Senior
32 Greedy Williams, CB 1 School: LSU | Year: Sophomore (RS)
33 Nasir Adderley, S School: Delaware | Year: Senior
34 Daniel Jones, QB 1 School: Duke | Year: Junior (RS)
35 Jerry Tillery, DT 1 School: Notre Dame | Year: Senior
36 A.J. Brown, WR 1 School: Mississippi | Year: Junior
37 N’Keal Harry, WR 5 School: Arizona State | Year: Junior
38 Riley Ridley, WR 2 School: Georgia | Year: Junior
39 Erik McCoy, C 1 School: Texas A&M | Year: Junior (RS)
40 Dalton Risner, OT 2 School: Kansas State | Year: Senior (RS)
41 Deebo Samuel, WR 6 School: South Carolina | Year: Senior (RS)
42 Taylor Rapp, S 3 School: Washington | Year: Junior
43 David Montgomery, RB 6 School: Iowa State | Year: Junior
44 Kaleb McGary, OT 3 School: Washington | Year: Senior (RS)
45 L.J. Collier, Edge 1 School: TCU | Year: Senior (RS)
46 Miles Sanders, RB 3 School: Penn State | Year: Junior
47 Jaylon Ferguson, Edge School: Louisiana Tech | Year: Senior (RS)
48 Julian Love, CB NR School: Notre Dame | Year: Junior
49 Trayvon Mullen, CB 1 School: Clemson | Year: Junior
50 Tytus Howard, OT School: Alabama State | Year: Senior (RS)
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https://twitter.com/MoveTheSticks/status/1113509675557724160
 
Dane Brugler’s Top 25 Running Back Rankings: Third round is the sweet spot



In 2013 and 2014, the first round came and went without a running back being drafted. But over the last four NFL Drafts (2015-18), at least one running back was selected in the top-10 picks. Will this year make it five straight in the top-10? Or could we have 32 non-backs drafted in the first round like 2013-14? My guess is somewhere in the middle with Alabama’s Josh Jacobs leading the way as a projected top-30 pick. He was the top player at the position in my initial rankings in the fall and that hasn’t changed. However, the sweet spot of this draft for the running back position will be on Day Two, specifically the third round.

1 Josh Jacobs Alabama JR 5-10 220
2 Damien Harris Alabama SR 5-10 216
3 Devin Singletary Florida Atlantic JR 5-7 203
4 David Montgomery Iowa State JR 5-10 222
5 Miles Sanders Penn State JR 5-11 211
6 Darrell Henderson Memphis JR 5-8 208
7 Justice Hill Oklahoma State JR 5-10 198
8 Trayveon Williams Texas A&M JR 5-8 206
9 Dexter Williams Notre Dame SR 5-11 212
10 Jalin Moore Appalachian State rSR 5-10 212
11 Ryquell Armstead Temple SR 5-11 220
12 Rodney Anderson Oklahoma rJR 6-0 224
13 Bryce Love Stanford SR 5-9 200
14 Alexander Mattison Boise State JR 5-11 221
15 Darwin Thompson Utah State JR 5-7 198
16 Benny Snell Jr. Kentucky JR 5-10 224
17 Mike Weber Ohio State rJR 5-10 211
18 Elijah Holyfield Georgia JR 5-10 217
19 Myles Gaskin Washington SR 5-9 205
20 Devine Ozigbo Nebraska SR 5-11 227
21 Alex Barnes Kansas State rJR 6-0 226
22 Travis Homer Miami (Fla.) JR 5-10 201
23 Karan Higdon Michigan SR 5-9 206
24 Jordan Scarlett Florida rJR 5-11 208
25 L.J. Scott Michigan State SR 6-0 227
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Why does Maryland's Ty Johnson get no love? I know he's not an everydown RB. But he can't crack the top 25? Or get a combine invite? Johnson is more explosive than 15-20 RBs on this list. Did he kill his parents? Caught fighting pitbulls? Don't tell me he knelt during the anthem? What's the deal?
 
I think Johnson just doesn't have stats to rank him. Not a 900 yard season and 1/2 that 2018, from a less recognized school he needed standout ... something. He has size but to those who do not watch him or research, he's JAG. Reminds me of #4 as he often tries to take it to end zone when he should opt for a solid gain. In right system where not expected to be top two backs he might develop.
 
I think possible a team could select a player it could use but Houston wants and then complete a trade sometime day two. For example Giants select Jonah #17 continue negotiations to complete rest of deal day two. Keep watching...

Edit: also wanted say thanks to all almost 3400 posts in just over a month.
 
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badboy said:
I think possible a team could select a player it could use but Houston wants and then complete a trade sometime day two. For example Giants select Jonah #17 continue negotiations to complete rest of deal day two. Keep watching...

Edit: also wanted say thanks to all almost 3400 posts in just over a month.
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That pretty much never happens. Once a team makes a pick, the draft pool allotment goes to that team.
 
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Lucky said:
That pretty much never happens. Once a team makes a pick, the draft pool allotment goes to that team.
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My understanding cap not affected until NFL approves any contract. Interesting take. Please provide link to your assertation.
 
I'm hearing two of three teams interested in Arizona's Josh Rosen (Giants, Pats and Chargers) have made offers one allegedly is a second round. I'm hoping it's Chargers, if true. I want a deal with NY that I worked up late last night. Want to go over my scribbles as brain functions dim at 130 am. I expect Arizona to wait late as poss to get best deal same with Houston.
 
badboy said:
I'm hearing two of three teams interested in Arizona's Josh Rosen (Giants, Pats and Chargers) have made offers one allegedly is a second round. I'm hoping it's Chargers, if true. I want a deal with NY that I worked up late last night. Want to go over my scribbles as brain functions dim at 130 am. I expect Arizona to wait late as poss to get best deal same with Houston.
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What do mean by "same with Houston" ?
 
A deal today should though not 100 percent be available as round one progresses. If a great deal is offered, grab of course but in poker and negotiations can't be timid. At least Clowney and 1.23 should be in consideration for trades
 
badboy said:
A deal today should though not 100 percent be available as round one progresses. If a great deal is offered, grab of course but in poker and negotiations can't be timid. At least Clowney and 1.23 should be in consideration for trades
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I don't see Clowney signing the tender prior to the draft
 
Possible trade scenario: as I've posted I value CLowney at approximately 1200 points on the draft point chart used by Our Lads. The trade would be #23 (760 points) + Clowney to New York Giants. I will also offer a mock draft for NY and sometime later for Texans.

Houston receives 1.17 (950) + 2.37 (530) + 3.95 (120) +4.108 (78) and 5.142 (35) = 1713

2019 Giant draft:

1.6 I think this could be either a trade down or QB Haskins. An OT for right side is possible but a solid one should be available later. IMO, a trade down brings them Daniel Jones and other picks which could bring them an OT.

1.23 ILB Devin Bush although an OT they like could be here like Cody Ford.

4.132 OT/OG here's a guy I really like who has played very well at both OTs
5.143 probably a safety but if they choose not to go with Bush or not there Wisconsin's TJ Edwards fits bill.
5.171 opposite of 143 lots of corners that can play safety
they have other picks but far as I go.

Texans 1.17 2.37 2.54 2.55 3.86 3.95 4.108 5.142 5.151 and rounds 6 and 7.
 
badboy said:
Possible trade scenario: as I've posted I value CLowney at approximately 1200 points on the draft point chart used by Our Lads. The trade would be #23 (760 points) + Clowney to New York Giants. I will also offer a mock draft for NY and sometime later for Texans.

Houston receives 1.17 (950) + 2.37 (530) + 3.95 (120) +4.108 (78) and 5.142 (35) = 1713

2019 Giant draft:

1.6 I think this could be either a trade down or QB Haskins. An OT for right side is possible but a solid one should be available later. IMO, a trade down brings them Daniel Jones and other picks which could bring them an OT.

1.23 ILB Devin Bush although an OT they like could be here like Cody Ford.

4.132 OT/OG here's a guy I really like who has played very well at both OTs
5.143 probably a safety but if they choose not to go with Bush or not there Wisconsin's TJ Edwards fits bill.
5.171 opposite of 143 lots of corners that can play safety
they have other picks but far as I go.

Texans 1.17 2.37 2.54 2.55 3.86 3.95 4.108 5.142 5.151 and rounds 6 and 7.
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Bold call there Badboy, and I like your style man.
 
IDEXAN said:
Bold call there Badboy, and I like your style man.
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Thanks. I really try to make trades reasonable for both sides. I think Haskins should be #6 but as posted before, everything indicates not wanting him. A huge deal could be had recuperating many picks traded for Clowney; in fact a trade down to Dolphins would come close to getting even with #13 and # 48. Jones behind Manning for a season may have him ready for 2020 and waving bye to last of the brothers.
 
badboy said:
My understanding cap not affected until NFL approves any contract. Interesting take. Please provide link to your assertation.
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We're talking about two different things. The "cap" as in salary cap is not affected until the drafted players' contracts are finalized. The rookie pool allotment is set after the draft pick is made. A draft slot traded (prior to the player drafted) has the year-one formula allotment for that selection assigned to the Club receiving the pick. You're not suggesting trading a draft slot, but an actual player. That pool allotment isn't transferred to the traded player. The draft and trade deal is common in the NBA draft, as their salary allotments travel with the player. Not so in the NFL.
 
Lucky said:
We're talking about two different things. The "cap" as in salary cap is not affected until the drafted players' contracts are finalized. The rookie pool allotment is set after the draft pick is made. A draft slot traded (prior to the player drafted) has the year-one formula allotment for that selection assigned to the Club receiving the pick. You're not suggesting trading a draft slot, but an actual player. That pool allotment isn't transferred to the traded player. The draft and trade deal is common in the NBA draft, as their salary allotments travel with the player. Not so in the NFL.
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My understanding is
Section 3. Required Tender: A Club that drafts a player shall be deemed to have automatically tendered the player a four-year NFL Player Contract for the Minimum Active/Inactive List Salary for such League Years. The NFL or the Club shall provide the player with notice of such Required Tender before or immediately following the draft
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2011 CBA

For 2019 that is apprx $480k (2018) + $15 k for annual increase for this season = 1/2 million which is no restriction for a trade as I posted. https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2019/01/27/nfl-minimum-salaries-in-2018/38961907/

I'm definitely no expert on CBA but this is where I get my position again, please support your claim.
 
badboy said:
My understanding is 2011 CBA

For 2019 that is apprx $480k (2018) + $15 k for annual increase for this season = 1/2 million which is no restriction for a trade as I posted. https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2019/01/27/nfl-minimum-salaries-in-2018/38961907/

I'm definitely no expert on CBA but this is where I get my position again, please support your claim.
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You're talking about the salary cap. Sure, if you can get that player drafted at pick #17 to take that minimum deal, it's not an issue. Giving him a deal for the the money allotted to the #17 pick when the team does not have that slot in their rookie pool allotment is another. This is why you don't see trades like this in the NFL. You agree with that part, right?
 
badboy said:
I'm definitely no expert on CBA but this is where I get my position again, please support your claim.
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Not going to bother to try to find proof but my understanding is the same as Lucky's. I recall a talking head discussion about how teams would have to get creative because the rookie pool allotment didn't transfer.
 
Lucky said:
You're talking about the salary cap. Sure, if you can get that player drafted at pick #17 to take that minimum deal, it's not an issue. Giving him a deal for the the money allotted to the #17 pick when the team does not have that slot in their rookie pool allotment is another. This is why you don't see trades like this in the NFL. You agree with that part, right?
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infantrycak said:
Not going to bother to try to find proof but my understanding is the same as Lucky's. I recall a talking head discussion about how teams would have to get creative because the rookie pool allotment didn't transfer.
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Not arguing but reading info I linked the rookie slot when player drafted is assigned the amount as I posted. It is not "official until contract signed and approved by NFL. IF traded the spot is vacated and is assigned to new team again until signed/approved. Appreciate both your POV but mine sounds as reasonable and I have something to point to. My Irish doesn't encourage me to change without something more substantial. Perhaps I can wade through Larry Coons for guidance but not now. I cannot find anything about allotted slots not transferring but I used to think a tagged player carried the tag when he was traded and my research revealed my error.

Lucky I agree teams don't usually select a player another team wants then hope for a trade but thinks that's because deal is worked out before time changes to next team.
 
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It's not close to reasonable for the Giants. Why are they going to trade the lions share of their draft for a player they would then have to extend a 9 figure contract to? Not going to happen.
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you seem to be overlooking #23 . NY would not be giving up lions share for Clowney alone. They would have 6, 23 and the remainder of picks round 4-7. Imo JD is worth # 17 their 3rd and another pick. Our 23 is worth rest if not more. My deal value for him was 790 and he's worth more.
 
badboy said:
Possible trade scenario: as I've posted I value CLowney at approximately 1200 points on the draft point chart used by Our Lads. The trade would be #23 (760 points) + Clowney to New York Giants. I will also offer a mock draft for NY and sometime later for Texans.

Houston receives 1.17 (950) + 2.37 (530) + 3.95 (120) +4.108 (78) and 5.142 (35) = 1713

2019 Giant draft:

1.6 I think this could be either a trade down or QB Haskins. An OT for right side is possible but a solid one should be available later. IMO, a trade down brings them Daniel Jones and other picks which could bring them an OT.

1.23 ILB Devin Bush although an OT they like could be here like Cody Ford.

4.132 OT/OG here's a guy I really like who has played very well at both OTs
5.143 probably a safety but if they choose not to go with Bush or not there Wisconsin's TJ Edwards fits bill.
5.171 opposite of 143 lots of corners that can play safety
they have other picks but far as I go.

Texans 1.17 2.37 2.54 2.55 3.86 3.95 4.108 5.142 5.151 and rounds 6 and 7.
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I really like this prospective trade. 7 of the top 108 picks would set the Texans up for a Colts-like turnaround on the OL and give Gaine more “at bats” for that home run rookie like he had last season with Justin Reid and the Colts had with their draft last season.
 
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Imo JD is worth # 17 their 3rd and another pick.
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If so, why wouldn't the Texans just re-sign Clowney? They have more cap room than the Giants. They're a playoff team, unlike the Giants. They're not rebuilding, the Giants are. You're fixated on the return value, not seeing the logic (or lack thereof) of why the Giants make the deal.
 
Lucky said:
If so, why wouldn't the Texans just re-sign Clowney? They have more cap room than the Giants. They're a playoff team, unlike the Giants. They're not rebuilding, the Giants are. You're fixated on the return value, not seeing the logic (or lack thereof) of why the Giants make the deal.
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While I agree with you, a total rebuild is what is needed for the Texans org.

Plus that savings on Clowney gets you closer to the Cap championship.
 
TheRealJoker said:
I really like this prospective trade. 7 of the top 108 picks would set the Texans up for a Colts-like turnaround on the OL and give Gaine more “at bats” for that home run rookie like he had last season with Justin Reid and the Colts had with their draft last season.
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Thanks I think it's doable but often we get caught up in the disappointment we've become accustomed to over the centuries [ok it just seems that long]. I think as 25 th gets here and commish says "and the _________ select _____ teams will start to move; last draft as I posted upstream had 8 trades involving first round. Like sharks, pigs on a sow or seagulls when one gets interested others seem to go into a feeding frenzy and that's what I'm hoping for. I like JD but health concerns me and if we can get right deal as you say it could be a huge turn around.
 
Lucky said:
If so, why wouldn't the Texans just re-sign Clowney? They have more cap room than the Giants. They're a playoff team, unlike the Giants. They're not rebuilding, the Giants are. You're fixated on the return value, not seeing the logic (or lack thereof) of why the Giants make the deal.
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We just aren't going to see eye to eye, you keep bringing up things I've already replied to; not saying you're becoming Steel but--- lol! Texans want to re-sign JD and have tried; tried to extend him but he said no. They knew it would take huge bucks but as with Solder, Trent Brown and closer to home with Kjack and Mathieu they ain't plunking down a gold mine, not that they cannot, they can and have for Watt and Nuk. You mention logic then ignore that NY is NY and don't want to be out of POs. The Giants for first time in perhaps their history have opportunity and the picks (GM remains a question) to go from remodeling to a really good team. Look at Browns last season and Raiders so far this off season, both making high risk really big moves so what not Giants? They have a productive but getting sloppy 38 YOA QB and can use # 6 for IMO best QB in draft with Haskins or select real stalwart RT like Jawaan Taylor [I keep wanting to type Juwanna Mann] or great defensive guy. Quennen Williams is going to be a franchise player or what I would do is trade down and get at least a first and second this year and perhaps a first 2020 so a team like Dolphins could get Haskins. I'm hoping Tampa takes Q to increase need for Clowney especially if Josh Allen goes top four as it appears.

Texans may not be rebuilding but if they could get OT Jonah Williams or Greedy Williams, Ferguson, Love, D. Harris, Justin Layne, Tytus Howard and others...call it what you will... me likee!
 
badboy said:
We just aren't going to see eye to eye, you keep bringing up things I've already replied to; not saying you're becoming Steel but--- lol! Texans want to re-sign JD and have tried; tried to extend him but he said no. They knew it would take huge bucks but as with Solder, Trent Brown and closer to home with Kjack and Mathieu they ain't plunking down a gold mine, not that they cannot, they can and have for Watt and Nuk. You mention logic then ignore that NY is NY and don't want to be out of POs. The Giants for first time in perhaps their history have opportunity and the picks (GM remains a question) to go from remodeling to a really good team. Look at Browns last season and Raiders so far this off season, both making high risk really big moves so what not Giants? They have a productive but getting sloppy 38 YOA QB and can use # 6 for IMO best QB in draft with Haskins or select real stalwart RT like Jawaan Taylor [I keep wanting to type Juwanna Mann] or great defensive guy. Quennen Williams is going to be a franchise player or what I would do is trade down and get at least a first and second this year and perhaps a first 2020 so a team like Dolphins could get Haskins. I'm hoping Tampa takes Q to increase need for Clowney especially if Josh Allen goes top four as it appears.

Texans may not be rebuilding but if they could get OT Jonah Williams or Greedy Williams, Ferguson, Love, D. Harris, Justin Layne, Tytus Howard and others...call it what you will... me likee!
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TLTR

Clowney to NYG unlikely to happen, although I would like it to happen. Which means it's not going to happen.
 
Round one mock 32 teams with no trades until #17 New York with Houston.
1.1 Arizona Kyler Murray
1.2 S.Fran Nick Bosa
1.3 Jets Josh Allen
1.4 Raiders Q. Williams
1.5 T Bay Devin White
1.6 Giants Rashan Gary
1.7 Jags Jawaan Taylor
1.8 Lions Hockenson
1.9 Bills Oliver
1.10 Denver Lock
1.11 Bengals Devin Bush
1.12 G Bay Metcalf
1.13 Miami Sweat
1.14 Falcons Wilkins
1.15 Wash Daniel Jones
1.16 Panthers Brian Burns
1.17 Txns Jonah W. NY QBs gone & need a DL so Clowney; not discussing trade content at this point
1.18 Vikings Cody Ford
1.19 Titans Ferrell
1.20 Pitts Byron Murphy
1.21 Seattle Deandre Baker
1.22 Ravens A J Brown
1.23 Texans Greedy Williams
1.24 Raiders Risner
1.25 Eagles Dillard
1.26 Colts Marquis Brown
1.27 Raiders Josh Jacobs I have him avail @ #35 but no better need here so trade poss
1.28 Chargers McGary
1.29 Chiefs Bradbury
1.30 G Bay Fant
1.31 Rams Dexter Lawrence
1.32 NE Jeffrey Simmons

* I do expect many other trades and some above #17 but this was an exercise for me.
 
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If Jonah not available and Greedy not taken or not available, I'm thinking trade down needs happen. Makes me hope for 27 and 35 from Raiders. I'd probably add our own 2020 3rd and our probable comp third for that.
 
Submitted by Aaron Wilson:

Here are some prospects that have confirmed they have had contact with the Texans.

****************This page will be updated heading to the NFL Draft****

Notations
  1. EW = Shrine Game
  2. SR = Senior Bowl
  3. C = Combine
  4. W = Workout
  5. 30 = Pre-Draft Visit
  6. L = Local Pro-Day
  7. M = Meeting
Running Backs
Offensive Lineman
  • C Ross Pierschbacher, C (met with Mike Devlin), Alabama
  • C Erik McCoy, C (informal meeting with Tim Kelly), Texas A&M
  • OT Jawaan Taylor, Florida, C
  • OT Yodny Cajuste, West Virginia, C
  • OT David Edwards, Wisconsin, C
  • OT Cody Ford, Oklahoma, C (Read More Here)
  • OT Andre Dillard, Washington State, C
  • OT Tytus Howard, Alabama State, C, W, 30 (Read More Here)
  • OT, Dalton Risner, Kansas State, SR (Read More Here)
  • OT Oli Udoh, Elon, EW (Read More Here)
  • OT Chidi Okeke, Tennessee State, W (Read More Here)
  • OT Brandon Hitner, Villanova W (Read More Here)
  • OT Marquez Tucker, Southern Utah, M
  • OT O'Shea Dugas, Louisiana Tech M (Pro Day)
  • OG/OT Donnell Greene, Minnesota M
  • OT Trey Pipkins, Sioux Falls W
  • OL Joshua Miles, Morgan State, 30
  • OT Paul Adams, Missouri, W

Wide Receivers/ Tight Ends
Quarterbacks
Defensive Line
  • DE L.J. Collier, TCU (informal), C
  • DL, Chase Winovich, Michigan (informal), C
  • DL Kingsley Keke, Texas A&M (informal), C, 30
  • DT, Daylon Mack, Texas A&M (informal), C, L
  • DT, Dexter Lawrence, Clemson, C (Read More Here)
  • DL, Jalen Jelks, Oregon, SR (Read More Here)
  • DL, Oshane Ximines, Old Dominion, SR (Read More Here)
  • DL, Jaylon Ferguson, Lousiana Tech, SR, W, M (Pro Day) (Read More Here)
  • DE, Derick Roberson, Sam Houston, EW (Read More Here)
  • DE, Landis Durham, Texas A&M, EW, L (Read More Here)
  • DE, Jordan Brailford, Oklahomas State, EW (Read More Here)
  • NT Daylon Mack, Texas A&M, EW, L (Read More Here)
  • DE Maxx Crosby, Eastern Michigan W
  • DE Charles Omenihu, Texas W
  • DE, Ben Banogu , TCU, M, W
  • NT Javier Edwards, Colorado, L
  • DL Mbi Tanyi, Maryland, L
  • DT Trysten Hill, Central Florida 30

Linebacker
  • LB Gary Johnson, Texas, C
  • LB Ulysses Gilbert III, Akron, EW (Read More Here)
  • LB Cole Holcomb, North Carolina, EW (Read More Here)
  • OLB Dre Greenlaw, Arkansas W, 30 (Read More Here)
  • ILB Terez Hall, Missouri M (Pro Day)
  • OLB Terrill Hanks, New Mexico State W, 30
  • LB Blake Cashman, Minnesota M
  • LB Emeke Egbule, Houston, M
  • LB Dakota Allen, Texas Tech L
  • LB Tyrell Dodson, Texas A&M L
Defensive Backs
  • S, Nasir Adderley, Deleware, C (informal)
  • S, Darnell Savage Jr., Maryland, C, 30 (informal) (Read More Here)
  • S, Juan Thornhill, Virginia, C (informal)
  • S, Mike Bell, Fresno State, C (informal)
  • CB/S, Chauncey Gardner-Johnson, Florida, C, W (informal) (Read More Here)
  • CB, Julian Love, Notre Dame, C (Read More Here)
  • CB, Trayvon Mullen, Clemson, C (Read More Here)
  • CB, Joejuan Williams, Vanderbilt, C, 30 (Read More Here) (Read More Here)
  • CB, Greedy Williams, LSU, C (Read More Here)
  • CB, Amani Oruwariye, Penn State, C, W (informal)
  • CB, Byron Murphy, Washington, C (Read More Here)
  • CB, DeAndre Baker, Georgia, C (Read More Here)
  • CB, Isaiah Johnson, Houston, C, W, L (Read More Here)
  • DB, Juan Thornhill, Virginia, SR (Read More Here)
  • CB, Jimmy Moreland, James Madison, EW (Read More Here)
  • S Zedrick Woods, Ole Miss, EW (Read More Here)
  • CB Ka'dar Hollman Toledo M (Pro Day)
  • CB Broderick Thomas, UAB L
  • CB Alex Myres, Houston L
  • CB Xavier Crawford, Central Michigan 30
  • CB Donnie Lewis, Tulane 30
  • CB Brian Peavy, Iowa State, L
  • S John Bonney, Texas Tech W
 
According to Wilsons submittal above Texans made 0 appearances at the offensive linemans pro days which I find interesting given that that's the position of their top priority.
 
IDEXAN said:
According to Wilsons submittal above Texans made 0 appearances at the offensive linemans pro days which I find interesting given that that's the position of their top priority.
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I'd wait till after private workouts before drawing any conclusions.
 
IDEXAN said:
According to Wilsons submittal above Texans made 0 appearances at the offensive linemans pro days which I find interesting given that that's the position of their top priority.
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I think L is for the local workout the Texans hold for area prospects. W is the workout at their college's pro day.
 
Although anyone that follows football to any extent should understand this "dilemma," it is something that many fans have a problem accepting.:

Bill Belichick: Tough to project college passing games to the NFL
Posted by Michael David Smith on April 11, 2019, 5:22 AM EDT

Patriots coach Bill Belichick offered some insight into just how difficult it is to watch film of college passing games and project how those players will play in the NFL.

Belichick said the passing offenses in college football are so different that it makes it hard to evaluate not only quarterbacks, but everyone else as well.

“I’d say the issue in college football is there just is not the same passing game in college football that there is in the NFL, period,” Belichick said. “So, it’s hard to evaluate the receivers, it’s hard to evaluate the quarterback, it’s hard to evaluate the offensive linemen, it’s hard to evaluate the pass rushers and it’s hard to evaluate the coverage players. You know, we’re all looking at the same film, so all the teams in the league, we all see the same games. But, the college passing game is very different from the professional passing game. When you’re looking at it, you’re looking at a lot of it’s really projecting all those positions a little bit differently. To a certain degree, it’s different in the running game, too, but probably less difference in the running game than in the passing game, in my opinion.”

College passing concepts are making their way to the NFL and will continue to with Kliff Kingsbury now coaching the Cardinals. But the differences are still significant, and that makes scouting players a challenge.
 
IDEXAN said:
According to Wilsons submittal above Texans made 0 appearances at the offensive linemans pro days which I find interesting given that that's the position of their top priority.
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As I read the submittal, I initially had the same thoughts. I hope that this shows they are doing good due diligence since there is plenty of data available on the top prospects and its those others that they need to educate themselves on more in depth.
 
KoolAid Sipper said:
As I read the submittal, I initially had the same thoughts. I hope that this shows they are doing good due diligence since there is plenty of data available on the top prospects and its those others that they need to educate themselves on more in depth.
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Or that Online priority is a fan opinion and not team's. They may be prepared to roll as is then decide each pick which is best move including any trade. They are not tipping their hand.
 
badboy said:
Or that Online priority is a fan opinion and not team's. They may be prepared to roll as is then decide each pick which is best move including any trade. They are not tipping their hand.
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I should have clarified my post as being applicable to all prospects that are not "name brand"...IMO I think OL is a Texans priority but it may not be their top priority. Too many variables which makes it fun to speculate :tiphat:
 
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