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All Encompassing Matt Schaub Thread

Honoring Earl 34 said:
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Yeah but that would be rigged, he would always win...
 
Hervoyel said:
I'm going to go ahead and say it and I welcome the negative rep I'll get because I know I deserve it.

I'm going to say it anyway.

We need Matt to go down with another injury. It's time to see what else we have in the pantry and the only way Gary will ever do this is if Matt can't go.
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I had the exact same thought. Nothing will chance unless we see an injury :(
 
The first step in getting better is admitting and coming to reality that a change has to be made. Schaub needs to sit. Stephen A Smith told Andre Johnson he didn't believe in their qb.
 
EllisUnit said:
Ok Kubiak does make some bone headed calls, but is it Kubiak who throws short of the sticks ? Is it Kubiak who throws the pick 6 ? Is it Kubiak who cant get away from pressure ?

Kubiak is hard headed in his belief that Schaub is the next Elway, but Kubiak does put us in position to win most of the time.

If Schaub wasnt so scared and could step up in the pocket instead of go all fetile when he sees pressure then the plays are there. He cant step up and keep his eyes down field, we dont need a QB like wilson who can run it 25 yards on a QB draw, we just need a QB who has awarness that Schaub doesnt have anymore.

Kubiaks ONLY flaw is that he is to hard headed in his belief in Schaub, for the most part i do not question his coaching.
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I agree with this.

I think Kubiak's offense would be amazing with a mobile QB.

Unfortunately you deserve to go down with the ship you built, and Kubiak seems fine with Schaub steering the ship so he deserves to go down with it. If they don't get their acts together they are going to finish 3rd in the division.
 
We may need to take a risk by changing Schaub to our back ups? We need to be patience with our back ups but the way things are going, we may not make to the playoff and we sure ain't gonna make to SB with Schaub. So why not change? SF did last year. I am fed up with stupid INTs by Schaub.
 
Mr teX said:
Lol, don't think kubiak has ever thought Schaub is the next elway.... And what many in here don't take into account about the throwing short of the sticks thing is many of the times teams force u to do that...

Where kubiak is failing....and has been consistently been failing is getting this team to play a full damn game... We always come out flat and rally.... Or come out like gangbusters and limp to the end....how about dominating from start to finish most times? That's on the head coach..
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See i dont understand this, Kubiak cannot help if the offense or defense dont execute the plays that are called. He may run more, O-line gets paid to block, and if he does call a throw Schaub is paid to make the pass and the WRs are paid to catch the ball. These guys are the ones not executing, and since Schaub is the QB he gets the blame for the execution, especially with his every game pick 6.
 
I don't know how Kubiak can come out supporting Schaub right now.

The job of the Houston Texans is going to be trying to quite the Schaub talk & move on. There's no way to explain it.
 
PockyAF said:
Ex-Texans Derrick Ward comment on Schaub

Brian Cushing pretty much admitting it last week

Arian Foster face/body language after Schaub pick 6 today

I feel it's getting more obvious how his teammates truly feel about this klutz
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And u are which player on the team? Can't see how u can say that unless you are in fact in the locker room and on the team...
 
I think we may actually see a change at QB. We are getting to the point that Kubiak is now going to take some heat when Schaub screws up. There have been plenty of signs that it is time to move on and if Kubiak can't see that, it's on him. I think Kubiak likes Schaub alot, but don't think he will put his own job on the line for him.

It's time to move on, even Kubiak has to see that now.
 
Hervoyel said:
I'm going to go ahead and say it and I welcome the negative rep I'll get because I know I deserve it.

I'm going to say it anyway.

We need Matt to go down with another injury. It's time to see what else we have in the pantry and the only way Gary will ever do this is if Matt can't go.
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im with you, schaub is fools gold.. a trip to the IR would force kubiaks hand..
 
SAMURAITEXAN said:
We may need to take a risk by changing Schaub to our back ups?
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That's the only thing that makes sense to me. Being our "best option" & everything through practice is one thing, but to come out & play like this (even against the #2 defense in the league) is something else.

He needs to ride the bench & if he is the guy Kubiak thinks he is, he'll rise to the occasion & win the job on an NFL field. Tj get's hurt, or plays poorly... that's the time to throw Schaub out there to win his job back.
 
Either one of the backup QBs would have made that run that club foot attempted. Honestly I still am in shock he thought he could do that.
 
TexansSeminole said:
I think we may actually see a change at QB. We are getting to the point that Kubiak is now going to take some heat when Schaub screws up. There have been plenty of signs that it is time to move on and if Kubiak can't see that, it's on him. I think Kubiak likes Schaub alot, but don't think he will put his own job on the line for him.

It's time to move on, even Kubiak has to see that now.
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I think he gets another week at least.

I think there is A LOT of pressure, especially since the Colts and Titans are actually good teams this year.
 
been beating the schaub drum as a homer for a long time, but today is my breaking point. 3 pick 6's in only four games is it, i'm off the boat. done. put in keenum. at least put in yates. anyone who's not absolute junk in the pocket and can make better decisions with the ball. preferably someone who's more nimble than a 340lb nose tackle in space.
 
Rey said:
I want to see Keenum.

I'll settle for Yates, but I think keenum would energize this team in a big way.
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We're already losing, so why not give them a chance? Maybe one of the two will come out in the clutch for us.

If not we'll Indy our way through this season and draft Tajh Boyd lol
 
thunderkyss said:
That's the only thing that makes sense to me. Being our "best option" & everything through practice is one thing, but to come out & play like this (even against the #2 defense in the league) is something else.

He needs to ride the bench & if he is the guy Kubiak thinks he is, he'll rise to the occasion & win the job on an NFL field. Tj get's hurt, or plays poorly... that's the time to throw Schaub out there to win his job back.
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We should be 4-0 or 3-1 at least after week 4. Thanks to our D, we were able to win some games. I don't think Kube has no excuse left for Schaub and we need to move on. Like you said, keep Schaub as our back up and trade him next year if we can(maybe difficult with cap and all but at least we can try to find a trading partner that believe in fools gold).
 
Scooter said:
been beating the schaub drum as a homer for a long time, but today is my breaking point. 3 pick 6's in only four games is it, i'm off the boat. done. put in keenum. at least put in yates. anyone who's not absolute junk in the pocket and can make better decisions with the ball. preferably someone who's more nimble than a 340lb nose tackle in space.
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Agree i have been a pro Schaub guy until today, he lost a lot of fans after today IMO
 
Scooter said:
preferably someone who's more nimble than a 340lb nose tackle in space.
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That was pathetic.

I'm sure he was having Haynesworth flash backs, but damn.... If that were to happen to anyone else I'm sure he'd be thinking, "Next time, I'm going to juke him, bust a spin move...... "

Or even after watching all his film he should have seen opportunities where he could have won that athleticism battle.

Sooner or later, a man has got to get tired of looking like a btch.
 
EllisUnit said:
See i dont understand this, Kubiak cannot help if the offense or defense dont execute the plays that are called. He may run more, O-line gets paid to block, and if he does call a throw Schaub is paid to make the pass and the WRs are paid to catch the ball. These guys are the ones not executing, and since Schaub is the QB he gets the blame for the execution, especially with his every game pick 6.
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Execution is as much on the coach as it is the players and Kubiak and Schaub are a packaged deal in that regard...removing only 1 will still leave us with the same ol' crap we have now.
Look at Dallas with Tony Romo and wade. They're about a year ahead of where we are now with Schaub and kubiak.. Many fans wanted Romo gone in Wade's last year there they thought it was wade mostly and thought that if Romo just had better coaching.......but rather than doing what they should've did and getting rid of both Wade and Romo.... They decided to only get rid of 1.....as a result, they're still going thru the same crap they were going thru 3 years ago with wade....

You need new blood with a new philosophy...that almost always comes with a new qb.
 
If Schaub remains or QB i honestly see AJ retiring after this season. I think he knows Schaub is the reason this team will not when a SB.
 
RTP2110 said:
Andre was visibly upset when Schaub missed him running open in the back of the endzone.
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I was about to say the same thing.

You're starting to see a lot more players showing frustration when Schaub screws up.


On the radio yesterday they were saying that some players in the locker room had privately admitted to not having faith in Schaub.

You can see it on guys' faces. I was shocked when Dre showed that frustration when Schaub didn't give him a chance to catch that ball in the back if the EZ.
 
SchaubApologist said:
kubes is the only one that still believes in him.. and that's all that matters :(
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I guess we'll see what Kubes is going to do. I can't say I will be totally surprised if Kubes has Schaub go back out there against the Niners but I won't be surprised if it's Yates either. And, I'm hoping Kubes has mercy on the team (Schaub included), and all of us, and goes with Yates next Sunday!
 
What the hell does MS do so much better than the backups? Really?
I am not really sure he does anything better. I know he does things worse.
Schaub is NOT the future. Let's look to future.
Before long MS will kill the spirit of this team.
If not for AJ, Cushing, Watts etc I think this team would be in disarray now.

I would still like to have MS mic'd up. I think it would be revealing for all.
 
Y'all are crazy if you hold out hope that Conserviak is going to bench Schaub. He's going to wear the albatross of Schaub to the unemployment line.
 
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Most NFL QBs have at least ONE way to beat pressure.

Some of them can "feel" it or "sense" it -- like Peyton Manning (and others to a lesser degree), sidestep it or move up in the pocket, buy a few more seconds and find a receiver who gets open (usually with man coverage).

Others can roll out of the pocket, scramble and throw accurately on the run. Roethlisberger is an example here.

The final way is to abandon the pass, tuck the ball and run like hell upfield. Wilson does this, as well as a few others.

The point is, most NFL QBs can do at least one of these decently, even if not as well as the examples I mentioned.

Schaub is horrible at ALL of these. And his decision making under pressure is probably in the lower half of NFL QBs as well.

The bottom line is that Schaub is a terrible QB -- one of the worst -- when pressured. Sure, when he has time and throws for 460 yards and 3 TDs, or when he faces a 3-man front in a prevent defense on a two-minute drill he can look like one of the better ones -- but under pressure he is terrible. He can't sense the pressure and dodge it. He can't throw on the run. He can't beat you with his legs. He makes bad decisions throwing the ball under extreme duress.
 
I am a slow 50 yr old white dude, and I could outrun MS while wearing a suit of armor.

I've got some feathers. Who has a bucket of hot tar? :overreact:
 
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