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2nd round DJ Swearinger

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For a ham sammich and a pickle?

Doubt anyone would trade anything for the dude, but I'm for whatever we can get for him and his stupid nickname
 
IDEXAN said:
A second, of course that's downright silly. But I'd say anywhere from a fourth to a seventh and I'd lean towards the lower end of the range ?
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I think you're low-balling here. We fans didn't care for his substandard cover skills but a team that's looking for a box safety, who was a starter by the way, might cough up a 3rd. If some team made a phone call and asked how much, I'd open at a late 2nd/early 3rd and see if they bite.
 
I would much prefer to obtain an ILB that is a solid tackler with some coverage capabilities than keep a safety that has poor coverage skills and is necessarily relegated to playing mostly in the box.
 
You guys are crazy. Swag is a heck of a player. I think some of you guys forget that last year was his second year. He was much better last year than his rookie season.
 
TEXANRED said:
You guys are crazy. Swag is a heck of a player. I think some of you guys forget that last year was his second year. He was much better last year than his rookie season.
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Yeah, that "heck of a player" did play better last year and he was still an issue. He didn't look to me at all like the guy who just had the light bulb come on. Having said that I was really expecting him to play at a moderately competent level this year in a reduced role. I assumed we'd get Moore and somebody else and they'd make Swag the 3rd safety and he'd play smarter if maybe not as aggressively.

I still kind of hope he gets sent packing. He really isn't the kind of guy this regime keeps around.
 
TEXANRED said:
You guys are crazy. Swag is a heck of a player. I think some of you guys forget that last year was his second year. He was much better last year than his rookie season.
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I think he'd make an excellent LB if he were a few pounds heavier. As a safety, I prefer someone with a little more range & better coverage skills. As the last line of defense I want a surer tackler.

As is, I don't think he's a three down player. He takes a lot of snaps for us & I think that is telling about the depth we have at that position.
 
I think this is more smoke screen to entice a team to trade up for Collins rather than us trading DJ. He makes very little money and getting rid of him does nothing cap wise for us. With the other major holes still to fill, I doubt we create another one this close to the draft.
 
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EllisUnit said:
Question is if we trade him who is our other safety ? Besides Moore we have no one else at safety.
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You have hit the nail on its head. We've already lost one starter from our defense. I'm no fan of Swearinger and have already stated that I thought my forth round mock choice would have a good opportunity to win the starting spot. But I don't like the idea of losing another starter. Safety would move to a priority need and we already have one of those to fill. And we would still need a #3 safety. Swearinger has value as experienced depth if not as a starter.
 
ObsiWan said:
I think you're low-balling here. We fans didn't care for his substandard cover skills but a team that's looking for a box safety, who was a starter by the way, might cough up a 3rd. If some team made a phone call and asked how much, I'd open at a late 2nd/early 3rd and see if they bite.
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No one more than me hopes I'm wrong and you're right. We'll see, but course he may very well remain on the roster into the 2015 season.
 
thunderkyss said:
I think he'd make an excellent LB if he were a few pounds heavier. As a safety, I prefer someone with a little more range & better coverage skills. As the last line of defense I want a surer tackler.

As is, I don't think he's a three down player. He takes a lot of snaps for us & I think that is telling about the depth we have at that position.
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I will add that he is a play maker, but they are too far & in between for him to have a starting role at that position. Again, if he would have simply made the tackles he was supposed to make & not look for the big hit, or big play, I'd be more upset about the possibility he may not be a Texan in 2015.

But we're waiting on a lot of things to happen & I don't mind moving on from this one, if that's the way it goes.
 
http://steelerswire.usatoday.com/20...ety-d-j-swearinger-a-favorite-of-mike-tomlin/

Texans safety D.J. Swearinger had a fan in Steelers coach Mike Tomlin before the teams faced each other in Week 7 of the 2014 season.

It seemed odd at the time, and with rumors swirling, as noted by NFL Network reporter Ian Rapoport, maybe Tomlin would like to talk with Houston.

“I really admire the way (Swearinger) plays,” Tomlin said, according to a transcript of his remarks from the club, and quoted from Pro Football Talk. “He plays with a great deal of heart and passion. He is consistently physical. He does a lot for them. He plays in deep defense. He plays in underneath zone. He plays man. He will man up against tight ends, running backs and even wide receivers. He is a participant in their blitz game as well.

“He has a well-rounded game. He is one of those on the rise, young and talented type of guys in our league.”
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Polamalu retires, Tomlin loves him some Swaaagg......do it Rick.
 
EllisUnit said:
So we are hoping for a rookie to come in and start ? I'd rather keep swag
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My feelings exactly. Swag was night and day better year two than he was as a rookie. I am looking forward to watching him continue to grow in this defense. Swag is getting the KJax treatment.
 
TEXANRED said:
My feelings exactly. Swag was night and day better year two than he was as a rookie. I am looking forward to watching him continue to grow in this defense. Swag is getting the KJax treatment.
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Sad thing is he wasn't even near as bad as KJ was in his first two seasons.
 
Smith on local Fox 9 pm said Swearinger played well and could play even more "back end" this season. He did not rule out a trade; also said a QB pick in first three rounds not out of question.
 
Regardless if the rumor is true or not swearinger is just not a good safety and to
Make matters worse he plays dumb. If you're not that good don't draw extra attention by getting idiotic penalties that hurt your team almost as badly as your poor safety skills. I hope he improves but I think the player he is today is the player he'll be when he's finished. I don't know who made the pick Smith, Kubiak or wade but it was a bad pick for a second rounder.
 
thunderkyss said:
I don't think Kj missed as many tackles his whole career as Swag has in just two years.
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That's his issue, right there. He can't wrap up to save his life.

chicagotexan2 said:
I don't know who made the pick Smith, Kubiak or wade but it was a bad pick for a second rounder.
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Aw, can we dispense with the 20/20 hindsight bullshit for a change? He was projected as a 2nd rounder by everyone, and all drafts are crap shoots.
 
There were games he didn't even come out on the first play and when your starting safety is playing LB in Nickel and Dime you know he can't cover ****.
 
Marcus said:
That's his issue, right there. He can't wrap up to save his life.



Aw, can we dispense with the 20/20 hindsight bullshit for a change? He was projected as a 2nd rounder by everyone, and all drafts are crap shoots.
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Well Smith has a knack for crapping out, I'll give him that.
 
infantrycak said:
D.J. had 2 penalties last year.
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I stand corrected. The guy has a nasty attitude (in a good way), but he is more of a thumper and doesn't seem to want to be a sure tackler which was make him so much more valuable. I just don't see him developing that part of his game.
 
chicagotexan2 said:
I stand corrected. The guy has a nasty attitude (in a good way), but he is more of a thumper and doesn't seem to want to be a sure tackler which was make him so much more valuable. I just don't see him developing that part of his game.
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I don't think he's great, but he's not as horrible as made out either.

The penalties/stupid play stuff is all out of 1 game (3 of his 6 career penalties - 2 back to back) against the Jags which was a bad penalty day for the Texans all around with 14 penalties. For goodness sake DeAndre Hopkins got an unnecessary roughness call while blocking a run.

Wrapping up baffles me as it should be easy to fix. I thought PFF kept a missed tackles stat - maybe someone with a membership could pull some comparison numbers for us. But at least there is some hope for a player who gets to the right place, right time in order to miss a tackle. A guy 3 yds away who is a form tackler isn't making the play no matter what.
 
I don't have a PFF membership but I do remember reading that he was scored as a bottom ten Safety in the entire league, and a lot of that had to do with missed tackles and the disaster that is his man coverage ability.

I love Swearinger's mentality. He brings a necessary attitude to the defense similar to Cushing. But the guy has to improve or he won't be here much longer.
 
infantrycak said:
And yet they're talking about playing him deep more (a comment also made by Tomlin).
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Granted but people say a lot of complimentary stuff in the NFL about one another all the time. I don't think for a second that it is all sincere. Didn't Tomlin go on about him before we played them? Has he brought him and his great skills up again since then?

With the Texans talking about playing him deep more I'm also skeptical. When the times comes (if he's still here) will they actually do it or is it just something they're saying to try and make potential trade partners think that the Texans actually think he can do it?

I'm gonna be honest here. I just don't like him. I don't care if he had 2 penalties last year or didn't have a single one I do not like his game and think the Texans can do better at that spot. I'd wager that they think they can do better too otherwise this whole thing where someone is apparently trying to see if he's got any trade value probably never would have come up.

Or maybe it's just a smoke screen prior to the draft. The league right before the draft is kind of like all the different factions in the book "Dune" with "plots within plots" everywhere.
 
infantrycak said:
I don't think he's great, but he's not as horrible as made out either.

The penalties/stupid play stuff is all out of 1 game (3 of his 6 career penalties - 2 back to back) against the Jags which was a bad penalty day for the Texans all around with 14 penalties. For goodness sake DeAndre Hopkins got an unnecessary roughness call while blocking a run.

Wrapping up baffles me as it should be easy to fix. I thought PFF kept a missed tackles stat - maybe someone with a membership could pull some comparison numbers for us. But at least there is some hope for a player who gets to the right place, right time in order to miss a tackle. A guy 3 yds away who is a form tackler isn't making the play no matter what.
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bah007 said:
I don't have a PFF membership but I do remember reading that he was scored as a bottom ten Safety in the entire league, and a lot of that had to do with missed tackles and the disaster that is his man coverage ability.

I love Swearinger's mentality. He brings a necessary attitude to the defense similar to Cushing. But the guy has to improve or he won't be here much longer.
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This link to PFF should give you all the info you are seeking.

Sig Stats: Tackling Efficiency, DBs
Steve Palazzolo | February 10, 2015

[Swearinger was 56 out of 63 NFL safeties in 2014 :toropalm:]

...........but Manning was #1!

............and Bouye was #5 among 73 CBs!
 
bah007 said:
I don't have a PFF membership but I do remember reading that he was scored as a bottom ten Safety in the entire league, and a lot of that had to do with missed tackles and the disaster that is his man coverage ability.

I love Swearinger's mentality. He brings a necessary attitude to the defense similar to Cushing. But the guy has to improve or he won't be here much longer.
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DJ was rated 78th(-11.1) out of 87 Safeties overall (>25% snaps),

53rd in coverage(-0.9), 84th(-10.5) against the run, and 45th(-0.2) rushing the passer.

My issue with him is he freelances, breaking off his assignment. Also think RAC avoided putting him in coverage without help, as I think his coverage grade would be much worse. And he goes for knockouts vs. wrapping up.
 
I don't need to look at any damn stats. I watched his play, and it drove me me up the wall how he could not make an open field tackle to save his life. He doesn't care about tackling. All he wants to do is try to knock the ball out. I can't stand him.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
No, he's currently a FA.
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I'm expecting the Texans to wrap Manning up in a similar one-year contract if his market doesn't go up. I thought he gave us a nice performance last season particularly in mid/deep coverage, unfortunately he's lost some speed and isn't a KR as he was in his prime but he's definitely worth keeping around.
 
I saw Swearinger finding ways to make plays on a lot of occasions last year. He has a nose for being around the ball if anything. I understand he's not a terrific all around player, but he's no scrub imo.
 
Playoffs said:
PDS @PatDStat


Ian Rapoport @RapSheet
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"I can confirm that report."

Looks like PDS is telling everyone not to believe the conflicting reports.

PDS and Rapoport aren't going to throw this out there if they aren't confident in their information. This trade is happening.

For those of you saying that Swearinger is a valuable player: Of course he is, that's why a team will trade for him.

It comes down to this: Crennel has been running defenses a long time. He knows what he wants his defense to be, and Swearinger isn't part of that vision.

On another note: The Texans 2013 draft. Wow.
 
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