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Whichever version of the story is true, he still spent half of what most people make in a year on a ghetto-fabulous batmobile.
With a train horn.
With a train horn.
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2nd round DJ Swearinger
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Playoffs
Hall of Fame
Missed that, what did they say?
Interesting take. Especially the shop going the public embarrassment route instead of just using small claims court if they believe they have just cause. And the embarrassment thru the media route provides them free public exposure; which might backfire depending on how this ultimately plays out.
bOODRO87
Time Consumer
Dumb###
OzzO
.. and then?
TMZ sports has em
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I'm just not seeing it. He's slow, no ball skills, not particularly athletic. He's an undersized linebaker & not a very good one at that. Which tools, do you speak of, does he possess that could make him a great player?
I wouldn't be so sure that RAC feels he's the man. From what I understand, the plan was to get Moore & Lewis, which would have burried Swagg on the depth chart.
I wouldn't be surprised if we find someone in the draft to accomplish the same purpose.
I'm just not seeing it. He's slow, no ball skills, not particularly athletic. He's an undersized linebaker & not a very good one at that. Which tools, do you speak of, does he possess that could make him a great player?
I wouldn't be so sure that RAC feels he's the man. From what I understand, the plan was to get Moore & Lewis, which would have burried Swagg on the depth chart.
I wouldn't be surprised if we find someone in the draft to accomplish the same purpose.
I've been strongly considering lately the possibility of us taking Landon Collins in the first to do just that. I know a lot of people wouldn't agree with the idea, but with the FA additions we've made he now looks like a tailor made fit for this defense.
The Pencil Neck
Hall of Fame
I've played through some mocks where I took him but only because everyone else was off the board. In some scenarios, he doesn't make it to us.
I think we have other priorities, though.
PHILLYTEXANFAN
Saddle Up Partner
Not sold on Collins. I feel like he's overrated 1. He's from Alabama 2. Terrible safety class on paper
If any of those priorities are tackling, intermediate coverage, attacking the LOS, toughness, athleticism in the middle, a guy who will be a likely instant starting upgrade from day 1, then I think Collins could possibly fill them. We're likely to pass up a pro bowl caliber player who could help us no matter who we take anyway.
Like I said, I know most wouldn't agree with the idea, and that's completely fine. Maybe it comes off as sounding like a bit of a luxury pick, but after thinking about it a bit the guy has "the glue of this defense" written all over him. But ya, I'm content as a dumb dumb if I end up alone on this one.
I don't think O'Brien is looking to replace Swearinger. Whether he should be is open to debate. But O'Brien loves him some D.J.
...unless that was just so much coachspeak
...unless that was just so much coachspeak
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
Even without the quote, that has been my feeling. Like there is seemingly always a fan favorite WR on the PS there always seems to be a fan favorite punching bag on the D neither of which the coaches agree with.
xtruroyaltyx
Hall of Fame
I love the way swagg plays. He's one of the guys I wanted on this team. Not perfect by any means but I think the defense/team is better with him on it.
TheMatrix31
Hall of Fame
Pretty odd considering the culture of intelligent play that O'Brien is supposedly trying to establish.
Maybe he feels he can make Swearinger not be a moron. Godspeed to him if that's the case.
welsh texan
You may say I’m a dreamer but I’m not the only one
Seems we've got a great coaching staff on D right now who'll get the most out of a lot of players. Swag also has some quality pieces around him in the backfield and should learn to trust them to cover their assignments allowing him to focus on his.
This guy will have no excuses if he fails to live up to his potential.
Marshall
Not pretty, but ALIVE!
If he learns to wrap up as he hits, I'd have no problem.
Hervoyel
BUENO!
Oh yeah, he makes everything better
No. Not really. I still hope he knocks AJ's block off next year but that's the only thing I hope for him. Otherwise he's the idiot clone-mashup of Bernard Pollard and Dunta Robinson.
Hervoyel
BUENO!
msr. I love the way that sounds "make Swearinger not be a moron".
I'll be a dreamer and hope for a miracle too. We need to start a not-for-profit foundation and get some TV commercials made with old, out of work actors asking "Won't you please make a donation? For just pennies a day you can help Bill O'Brien make D.J. Swearinger not be a moron. Call now!"
Oh yeah, he makes everything better
No. Not really. I still hope he knocks AJ's block off next year but that's the only thing I hope for him. Otherwise he's the idiot clone-mashup of Bernard Pollard and Dunta Robinson.
O'Brien likes his fire and love of the game.
And before y'all go off on a "he makes too many stupid penalties" tangent, J.J.Watt led the team in penalties with 8. Swearinger only had two.
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and, to be straight with y'all, I was like
Hervoyel
BUENO!
O'Brien likes his fire and love of the game.
And before y'all go off on a "he makes too many stupid penalties" tangent, J.J.Watt led the team in penalties with 8. Swearinger only had two.
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and, to be straight with y'all, I was likewhen I saw Swearinger only had two flags against him all last season
Well, maybe the young man will learn. I'm not saying it's impossible. All I'm saying is that evidence to date says he's a moron.
Call now!
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Oh yeah, he makes everything better
No. Not really. I still hope he knocks AJ's block off next year but that's the only thing I hope for him. Otherwise he's the idiot clone-mashup of Bernard Pollard and Dunta Robinson.
This is a classic pic of Kubiak/Wade.
We've seen it many times over the yrs.
It did seem as though Swag was improving as the yr went on last yr. He may never be great, but a young Pollard is good enough to win with in the NFL. I like the attitude he brings to the defense, the Texans could use some more of that kind of attitude.
xtruroyaltyx
Hall of Fame
Oh yeah, he makes everything better
No. Not really. I still hope he knocks AJ's block off next year but that's the only thing I hope for him. Otherwise he's the idiot clone-mashup of Bernard Pollard and Dunta Robinson.
Bernard Pollard and Dunta Robinson weren't bad players.
Dunta was pretty good before he got injured...Not a star...but a good player....
Pollard was the starter for a superbowl champion team....
I think a lot of players have done some dumb things, but I wouldn't label Swagg as dumb. I don't think that is a correct characterization.
xtruroyaltyx
Hall of Fame
Yes, he should look to wrap up more when he can.
Hervoyel
BUENO!
This is just what I think.
Pollard was a one trick pony (knocking the piss out of people) and one of the weaker links on that defense. In his defense he was really good at knocking the piss out of people so he had that going for him but before he was a part of a Super Bowl defense he was released by Kansas City and Houston. Later he was released by Baltimore and Tennessee. "was released by" is in a lot of paragraphs on Pollard's Wikipedia page for a reason.
But he was a good player. I will admit that. Limited in coverage (much like Swag) but a good role player. I consider Pollard to be the better half of the "clone-mashup" of the two players Swag reminds me of.
Dunta did what exactly to be considered a good player? He had one good season playing opposite Aaron Glenn and with Marcus Coleman behind him and never matched it again. In a league where it's hard to find a lot of good corners Dunta never sniffed a Pro Bowl nod in 10 years. From the moment he became our #1 corner he consistently tried to make highlights instead of plays and piled up a lot of tackles too far beyond the LOS to make much difference. We were smart not to pay him and smart to let him go. Rick made a good decision there and let someone else overpay for Dunta's "highlights".
I'd give anything if Swearinger would learn to be smarter than Dunta. It would go a long way toward making up for the fact that he's just a better, younger version of Bernard Pollard in many ways.
With Dunta/Pollard in the secondary, I was pretty confident if there was someone foolish enough to try to run past them, that would be the end of that gain. Those guys did not miss tackles. Didn't matter how big they were, how shifty, how fast... if it was Dunta/Pollard between that guy & the end zone, I liked our odds.
I do not have any confidence in Swagg making open field tackles.
It was when the ball was in the air that I'd start praying, for all three. More so with Pollard & Swagg.
bhsman
Rookie
Was actually considering this the other day, the fact that DJ might not be the best pick for RAC's defense. Tania mocking Landon Collins to us the other day makes a lot more sense now.
TEXANRED
Texan-American
That saddens me.
Playoffs
Hall of Fame
Yeah, everything being so "dark" on my end as to draft targets was too unusual. It makes some sense now, if they're trying to open a need with a player trade.
Hervoyel
BUENO!
I'll be surprised if they find anyone to take him. He's a ****ing moron and he's done some of that in prime time.
To be honest though I was thinking this might just be the year that RAC gets him sorted out and he starts playing a bit smarter. Apparently after coaching him for a year RAC and OB have decided to go in another direction (or at least to try to)
To be honest though I was thinking this might just be the year that RAC gets him sorted out and he starts playing a bit smarter. Apparently after coaching him for a year RAC and OB have decided to go in another direction (or at least to try to)
TEXANRED
Texan-American
Now this...
Jayson Braddock @JaysonBraddock
This makes me not so sad.
Hervoyel
BUENO!
And now I'm sad.... Oh well, I guess someone is always going to be sad. There's always tomorrow!
Nitrofish
Let The Big Fish Eat!
That escalated quickly. What is the point of announcing such a thing? If there are no takers, you have effectively poisoned the players attitude. And I thought the big connection between Swag and Moore was a big deal? I am not a fan of the player because of the boneheaded plays, but this seems odd to me. Who are they planning on replacing him with?
Soooo we're back to believe nothing you hear around draft time until it actually happens. And then you can't be sure.
Hervoyel
BUENO!
I thought it was a big thing between Kareem and Moore no?
bhsman
Rookie
I think the idea now is to just keep an open mind. Lots could happen or threaten to happen over the next 48+ hours; just ride the wave and enjoy it.
Thing is the team didn't announce this. Some media type posted what basically amounts to a rumor.
badboy
Hall of Fame
Perhaps it was intended to "motivate" DJ?
Playoffs
Hall of Fame
Yeah, just had half of good Texans sources saying one thing and the other saying another... at the same time. The confusion that kind of exemplifies this draft run up. For me, anyway.
Nitrofish
Let The Big Fish Eat!
I think you are right about that, but swag was also part of the group too but then I will be turning 48 in May so perhaps my memory fails me.
I could see that, but think that would backfire with a guy like swag. But who knows. It could all just be draft bs. I didn't watch the Rick Smith pre draft press conference.
I've seen a couple mocks lately with the Texans taking a safety in the first round, including one by Tania gugliana (sorry 'bout the spelling), which might have some credibility since she obviously has connection/sources with the Texans. Just heard Rick Smith on 610 deny there's anything to the reports.
Well duh, what else would he say since if they are true the last thing he'd do is confirm them.
Obviously if dj is soon to be histroy, puts a whole new light on the chancs of drafting a safety.
Well duh, what else would he say since if they are true the last thing he'd do is confirm them.
Obviously if dj is soon to be histroy, puts a whole new light on the chancs of drafting a safety.
I can believe Rick Smith is taking inquires as to who - if anyone - he would consider trading. He should. I mean, if someone called Smith and offered a 1st (ridiculousness used for illustration purposes only) for Swearinger, he'd be a fool not to at least listen. But that doesn't equate to putting Swearinger on the block.
badboy
Hall of Fame
I would take a second for him and use it for Prewitt who has slipped to #130 for some reason.
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