Be interesting if DeMeco just happened to have an affinity from QB's from his alma mater..
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2023 TEXANS DRAFT DISCUSSION
- Thread starter gwallaia
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Purdy has played in a SB and been 1 botched play away from another?
Lil Shanny has done a great job.
Number19
Hall of Fame
Naturally. I just need to balance out those claims he is 5'9" or 5'10".
What?
Purdy has played in a SB? One botched play from another? The dude is a rookie. Lil Shanny has done a great job.
Errant Hothy
Hypermediocrity
Hyatt at 12 would be a reach of massive proportions; between the injury, his age, and the style of offense he runs, he is nowhere near worth the 12th pick.
Texansphan
Football connoisseur
He was querying another poster.
Oh, he was jocking Jimmy G again. I can't imagine someone happier than @steelbtexan seeing Garoppolo in a Texan uniform.
You may be confusing Hyatt, the Tennessee WR, with Hooker, the Vol's QB.
Texansphan
Football connoisseur
Well, I know he is injury prone but he has to be an upgrade over Mills at this point but I wouldn't want to give up a first for him - or a high second for that matter.
Texansphan
Football connoisseur
If he's there at #33, he would be a choice pick.
There is a chance Texans ignore WR this draft if Metchie looks ready. If not, maybe Cooks will stay with a HC he likes.
We can always look for someone decent in fa.
Not really, but if it takes Jimmy G to not draft a QB this year, then Jimmy G is man.
I have my own rankings. Hyatt is my #1 WR.
I wasn't aware of Hyatt having an injury history.
Great hands and world class speed with a lot of wiggle. Hyatt may need to get stronger to be able to consistently beat the press coverage. But that can easily get stronger through professional S&C. He's got the body type for it.
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You don't have to give up draft picks, he's a fa.
Jimmy's a free agent once the new league year starts on March 15th.
Hyatt will be available in the second possibly the 3rd. At 12 he is a massive overreach and yes I am talking about the WR
He might be your #1 but he is not anyone else's. Why would you use 12 on him when you can get him at 33?
I dont believe you can get him at 2-33.
#12 seems high for Hyatt. But not as ridiculous as him going in the 3rd. I don't know if Hyatt is a lock for the 1st round. But he's certainly comparable to guys like Jameson Williams and Jahan Dotson, who both went in the 1st last year.
I'm just looking at mocks I have seen. I think he is a lock for the 2nd, but I have seen a few with him going the top of the 3rd. I think it is absurd too. I think there are better WR choices at 12. I wouldn't take him there. I would not be shocked if someone like KC grabs him late in the 1st though.
It's way early for mocks. Haven't even got to the combine yet.
Errant Hothy
Hypermediocrity
this is why I shouldn’t open my mouth before waking up and consuming coffee
Yes, I did indeed read Hyatt as Hooker. Ugh, my apologies.
This is very true.
Caserio needs to add difference makers. This guy being on the field spreads the defense. Right off of the bat he can do this. Give me a guy with world class speed and really good hands and the coaches should be able to teach him how to beat a jam. He's seems to already be able to get in and out of his breaks fairly fluidly. The new coaches would have a very talented ball of clay to mold. You probably could trade down 5 spots and get him, but I wouldn't take the chance.
BullRushTX
To'oTo'o A'go-go
One thing I really like about him is how he controls his speed in routes to bait the defender and then blow past them.
vtech9
All Pro
I'd go Carter with 1.2, and I could go several ways with the 1.12. With the 1.12, I'd be good with Tyree Wilson, Myles Murphy, or Quentin Johnston. If they are gone, I'd look to trade down and get BJ Ojulari, Trenton Simpson, or Andre Carter II. I like the trade down option to get extra picks in '24 to use to trade up (if necessary) to get one of the QB's.
I'm not sure how you got pick 2.37, but I'm good with Rashee Rice at 2.33. With picks 3.65 and 3.73, I'm trying to get my Center, and either a TE or an OG. I'll try to get Achane in the 4th. If Achane isn't there in the 4th, I'll look at getting Roschon Johnson or TCU's Kendre Miller. I might also try to get USC RB Travis Dye in the 6th to add some RB depth.
vtech9
All Pro
I'm almost hoping Indy trades for #1 and drafts Young...after they sign Eric Bieniemy as their HC.
vtech9
All Pro
No thanks. I'd rather have Haener or Tune.
vtech9
All Pro
I like Christian Gonzalez better, but I wouldn't be mad at either one.
badboy
Hall of Fame
I like Gonzalez a lot. How do you compare him to Chase Brown's brother Sydney? He a favorite of mine.
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Trading Cooks and pick 3-75. I messed up Van Ness wont be there at 3-64 , so I'm picking Avila at 3-64.
Texansphan
Football connoisseur
There is a big chance we go CB at 1
#12 as a couple of very good ones available there.
Carstereo could fool everybody and go Carter or Anderson at #2, and CB at #12 just because a really good one will be there.
It would be hard to pass one up but we got Stingley last draft so that might be a factor.
One could make a good argument about WR too because we have Metchie waiting in the wings.
It would make sense to either trade #12, or take a QB there.
The other sensible option would be to take either Peter Skoronski/Paris Johnson there - move Howard to LG.
vtech9
All Pro
They're different players. Gonzalez is a CB, and Sydney Brown is a safety. Gonzalez is listed at 6'-2" & 4.32 40. Brown is listed at 6'-0" with a 4.45 40. Gonzalez is going to be one of the top CB's taken in the first round, and Brown is expected to be a late round draft pick, and could go undrafted. Brown had a good statistical season this year with 6 INT's, but he got most of his interceptions because Illinois played some bad QB's that threw the ball right to him. Brown's play this year reminded me of Pitre, but over his college career, he's been really inconsistent. I haven't looked at his play from his 1st four years at Illinois, but I know opposing QB's had a 90+ QBR against him for at least two of those seasons. If he can be as good in the NFL as he was his 5th year, then I might take a flyer on him. I just wouldn't use anything other than a late round pick on him, because I don't know which Brown he'll be.I like Gonzalez a lot. How do you compare him to Chase Brown's brother Sydney? He a favorite of mine.
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Rating: 85.1 Rank: #16 Forty: 4.47 Sydney Brown is a super athletic safety prospect with impressive speed and a similar level of overall explosiveness. He has good size standing 5-10 and wei...
vtech9
All Pro
Drafting a CB at 1.12 wouldn't be a bad thing. Yes, we have Stingley, but how long will we have Nelson. We could do much worse than have two young stud CB's for several years.
I like WR Rashee Rice in the 2nd round, but I wouldn't be mad at Quentin Johnston at 1.12 either.
I would leave Howard at RT, but Paris Johnson could be a good choice at OG. Skoronski could be a good swing tackle, but we would still need an OG and a Center. I think we can get one of the best Center's in the 3rd round though.
I'll pass on a 1st round QB. I'd rather take a flyer on Haener or Tune in the 5th round. Haener throws a really good fastball, and I can see him being better on short and intermediate throws than Young, and may be better on long throws. Tune needs work to be consistent, but throws a better deep ball than Young. Tune's issue is that he is overconfident in his abilities, and can get in trouble.
I dont see enough guys in this that put the fear of god in defenses and are threats to score everytime they touch the ball. Love the center in the 3rd pick.
I want Howard to stay at RT and Cann at RG, add a FA C and draft a guy in the 3rd that can play C/OG, so there will be no more McCray playing when one of the IOL goes down.
vtech9
All Pro
I don't mind keeping Cann for a season, but only if he's a backup. I want someone better.
Drafting a guy in the 3rd to provide competition and depth would be smart.
TheRealJoker
Hall of Fame
A lot comes down to the HC hire. If they bring in a coach that favors ZBS from the gap Warhop OL then it will effect who the team needs to target.
Texian
Hall of Fame
It's all about the OL and DL. The one common denominator with the 4 teams playing Championship weekend is they have the best OL and DLs. This is why in your first 2 years of rebuilding you focus on the OL and DL. You build from the inside out. You don't trade away draft picks to move up for a WR. Once you have your Lines in place then it is time to bring in your skilled players. For the last 2 years, the Texans have gone about this bassackwards. The Texans' approach has pretty much assured the team of another 5 years of rebuilding.
Thorn
Dirty Old Man
Couldn't agree more, I've said this many times. When rebuilding, you rebuild from the inside out. Otherwise you can end up with a mess, sometimes with talented players on offense who can't do crap because the O line can't help them.
As to the defensive line, that's pretty obvious.
Exactly
Agreed
You checked out my mock draft last year. Initially I wanted.
Neal
Davis
Williams
Pickens.
I'm a trenches 1st guy.
Then I switched over to Sauce when it became obvious they weren't going to pick Neal.
This year I hope they spend draft capital on offense including the ol and fa money on defense. Although I do like some of the edges in this draft and Mazi Smith alot.
Have you searched available linemen .... Slim Pickens .... saw him play an "intelligent" role on a western the other night - actually did a surprisingly good job !
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This all day every day. I'd actually start getting optimistic in the Texans if they heavily invested in the trenches on both sides of the ball. You control the trenches, you control the game.
He's also 30 lbs heavier. Think mesomorph body style vs. ectomorph. A dude cannot change his bone structure simply by adding weight.
Young is being reported as 5'10'-5'11" and very light at 186lbs.
Attaching any kind of importance to mock drafts is ridiculous. They rarely get the top 5 picks correct much less than 2nd round and later. Mock drafts are merely mental masturbation for football fans.
Number19
Hall of Fame
Are you saying Young is lying when he says otherwise? Why would you go with "reports", which is nothing but conjecture and guesswork, rather than the player's word? Anyways we'll see in about a month.
Remember Hakeem Olojuwon? Listed as a 7'er but was actually 6'10" and some change. You are correct. We will see soon enough. It's his frame that I worry about more than height, though.
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Another guy that was too short. Midget.