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2018 Front office changes

Addition of John Pagano a boon to Texans' defensive staff
John McClain, Houston Chronicle | February 13, 2018


John Pagano, younger brother of former Indianapolis head coach Chuck Pagano, will coach outside linebackers for the Texans and also has the title of senior defensive assistant.

The most significant addition to Bill O'Brien's coaching staff may turn out to be John Pagano.

Pagano, younger brother of former Indianapolis head coach Chuck Pagano, will coach outside linebackers for the Texans and also has the title of senior defensive assistant.

Pagano, 51, is one of seven new assistant coaches. He'll work under Romeo Crennel, who retained his assistant head coach title but has returned to defensive coordinator in place of Mike Vrabel, Tennessee's new head coach.

Crennel, who enters his 36th NFL season and his fifth season working for O'Brien, is recognized as one of the greatest defensive coordinators in NFL history. He'll turn 71 in June.

Houston Chronicle sports writer John McClain talks about the new head coach of the Tennessee Titans Mike Vrabel and the loss he is to the Houston Texans.

Media: R. Carter, Houston Chronicle
If Pagano is still on the staff when Crennel decides to retire, the Texans could have a smooth transition if O'Brien wants to promote him – like they have this year with Crennel replacing Vrabel.

Pagano is in his 23rd season as an NFL assistant, including 15 years (2002-2016) at San Diego. As linebackers coach and defensive coordinator, Pagano was so valued by San Diego that he worked for three different Chargers' head coaches.

Pagano earned his reputation as a terrific linebackers coach in a 3-4 defense, the same scheme the Texans have employed since Crennel arrived with O'Brien in 2012.
 
Looks like Richesson has been given a position extending beyond Strength and Conditioning and Nutrition Coach................with the title of "Senior Director of Sports Performance," it appears that he will also be incorporating the responsibilities of the Director of Sports Science, a position which has not been resurrected. All of this increased control along with probably an increase in salary commensurate with the new title no doubt factored into how Richesson was able to be enticed away from the Broncos.
 
infantrycak said:
I think Coleman was a DUI here and they kept him. Don't know of prior trouble. Travis Johnson and Mathis had fighting issues. Okoye and Brown pot. They bounced Montgomery and Grimes? for pot night before a game.

We really don't know how strict their policy is. Like with Cushing and Matthews, maybe they just rated players higher. They rated fighting TJ over Marcus Spears. They rated pot positive Okoye over Patrick Willis, Darelle Revis, Marshawn Lynch and Lawrence Timmons. There is absolutely no way to say they thought one of steeb's pet misfits was better and passed because of conduct.
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If they couldn't figure out that Justin Houston was a better prospect than Brooks Reed, or that Peters was a better prospect than KJo then there's the issue and the reason for 2-14/4-12. I dont believe this to be true. I think the reason picks like this was made was a directive from ownership.

Hopefully Gaine will pound the table for guys like Houston/Peters and change McNair's mind instead of just being a yes man like Ricky was. This yrs draft will be very telling to me, because without 1st/2nd rd picks the Texans are going to have to take some chances on character guys or they are going to fall further behind the Jags and probably the Tacks.

This really will come down to if the McNair's are serious about winning and putting the best product on the field possible, or will they continue to be content with making $$$$ hand over fist and the tailgaiting experience being the best thing about the Texans gameday experience?
 
Aaron Wilson@AaronWilson_NFL
Texans have signed veteran DL coach Anthony Weaver to two year contract extension. Highly regarded for work with Jadeveon Clowney, J.J. Watt and D.J. Reader. Former Ravens and Texans DE. Under contract through 2020
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leebigeztx said:
So, Peters was traded for a 4th this yr and a 2nd next yr. Are we still blaming smith?
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Looks like nothing has changed.

Teams didn't want to give up draft picks and sign a mentally unstable Peters to a long term contract. With that said, I would've traded for Peters since they have two 2nd rd picks next yr. Peters is going to be a star for Wade who knows how to get the best out of a guy like Peters. # Talib.

I take this post back, Peters is a kneeler, Screw him
 
steelbtexan said:
Looks like nothing has changed.

Teams didn't want to give up draft picks and sign a mentally unstable Peters to a long term contract. With that said, I would've traded for Peters since they have two 2nd rd picks next yr. Peters is going to be a star for Wade who knows how to get the best out of a guy like Peters. # Talib.

I take this post back, Peters is a kneeler, Screw him
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So attack coaches, create issues with management, and be a locker room cancer is all okay with you but kneel for the anthem is where you draw the line?
 
Top 5 cb, 25yrs old on a rookie deal ,no action? Yet, the Texans had one of the worse secondaries in nfl, and no deal? Ok
 
I am interested in what Pagano will do with Kamalu 6'6" 300 lbs. Whooee I thought Clowney was big for OLB! I hope he (kamalu) can put it all together in this 3rd season with Houston. He turns 26 in November.
 
leebigeztx said:
Peters goes for peanuts, Talon went for a 5th rd pick. Texans can absorb contracts and trade chump picks and nothing is happening.
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A lot of teams haven't made moves yet, so it's not just the Texans
Besides, there are good reasons teams are trading these players. When a player's current team wants him gone so badly they're the ones pursuing trades, the deal might end up being fools gold
 
michaelm said:
A lot of teams haven't made moves yet, so it's not just the Texans
Besides, there are good reasons teams are trading these players. When a player's current team wants him gone so badly they're the ones pursuing trades, the deal might end up being fools gold
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Yeah but missing out on Peters is a big deal to me. Talib is older and not worth the look. So far I see alot of activity from teams and ours is not one of them and it just makes me feel like more inaction. We have so many needs and no picks until the third rounds. So far this has not been aggressive and it makes me feel like not too much changed but hey we did resign Shane Lechler and got rid of Cushing. WTG ....pfft.
 
Texan_fan_13 said:
Yeah but missing out on Peters is a big deal to me. Talib is older and not worth the look. So far I see alot of activity from teams and ours is not one of them and it just makes me feel like more inaction. We have so many needs and no picks until the third rounds. So far this has not been aggressive and it makes me feel like not too much changed but hey we did resign Shane Lechler and got rid of Cushing. WTG ....pfft.
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Talib is better than any db the Texans have. See, make decisions based on football, period! He can play zone, man, 3 off man. Rams have 2 cbs who have more turnovers than anyone else. When you have cap room, you can absorb.
 
leebigeztx said:
Talib is better than any db the Texans have. See, make decisions based on football, period! He can play zone, man, 3 off man. Rams have 2 cbs who have more turnovers than anyone else. When you have cap room, you can absorb.
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I would've trade a 4th for Talib and traded for Peters. Imagine a secondary with Talib/Peters/Jackson/drafted S. With the front 7 that's a SB winning defense. The Rams are putting winning 1st. The Texans, not so much.

I'm willing to see how many resources they put into fixing the OL in FA before I pass judgement.
 
michaelm said:
A lot of teams haven't made moves yet, so it's not just the Texans
Besides, there are good reasons teams are trading these players. When a player's current team wants him gone so badly they're the ones pursuing trades, the deal might end up being fools gold
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Or you might win a SB like Talib has.
 
pretty much every team passed on a deal for Peters...don't single the Texans out for that. Talib i would've liked to see come here, But Richard Sherman just said he's going to be released. Unlikely he'd want to come here but we could still go after him. Earl Thomas is apparently on the trading block as well. I'd rather they spend their money wisely as opposed to just going after the 1st big name they could get.
 
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Mr teX said:
pretty much every team passed on a deal for Peters...don't single the Texans out for that. Talib i would've liked to see come here, But Richard Sherman just said he's going to be released. Unlikely he'd want to come here but we could still go after him. Earl Thomas is apparently on the trading block as well. I'd rather they spend their money wisely as opposed to just going after the 1st big name they could get.
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I could see getting Thomas, but I'd avoid Sherman like the plague. Ed Reed 2.0
 
steelbtexan said:
Or you might win a SB like Talib has.
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A championship two years ago really has nothing to do with what I said but I'll play.
Based on your logic Osweiler should be a Texan I suppose?

More to my point, the team that traded for Talib has not won a SB which is more relevant to what I was saying.
 
michaelm said:
A championship two years ago really has nothing to do with what I said but I'll play.
Based on your logic Osweiler should be a Texan I suppose?

More to my point, the team that traded for Talib has not won a SB which is more relevant to what I was saying.
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You're reaching.

Comparing Os to a multiple time pro bowler. Lol.

The Rams took on Talib in their quest to win a SB. They should be applauded.
 
I think the FO is trying to deal for O-linemen (lawd knows they've said it often enough).
I suspect they may go after Solder and/or a quality OG hard. A solid TE would be nice also.
DBs aren't at the top of the Texans' F/A shopping list IMHO.
 
steelbtexan said:
You're reaching.

Comparing Os to a multiple time pro bowler. Lol.

The Rams took on Talib in their quest to win a SB. They should be applauded.
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I'm not reaching. My point is that the super bowl your referenced is totally irrelevant to the conversation.

Playing off your SB reference, though, let's talk about the architect who built that team and how a SB winning GM is willing to trade a player from that same team.

And I don't have a problem with the Rams making that trade, my problem is with people using that trade to bash the Texans FO because they didn't make it

29 other teams also didn't make that trade. I guess they all suck too?
 
austins23 said:
I second the motion. I've always thought that Sherman was riding coattails of Thomas and Chancellor
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I disagree. 2 years ago, I would've gone all in for Sherman. A ruptured Achilles and a "minor" surgery to repair the contralateral (CnD getting me to use big words. :D) have made Sherman a commodity not even worth pursuing. No way would he accept the vet minimum 1 year offer I'd offer, so why insult him for no gain?
 
ObsiWan said:
I think the FO is trying to deal for O-linemen (lawd knows they've said it often enough).
I suspect they may go after Solder and/or a quality OG hard. A solid TE would be nice also.
DBs aren't at the top of the Texans' F/A shopping list IMHO.
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They obviously have the Browns FO on speed dial, so I wonder if they've inquired about Joe Thomas. I'm OK with the Texans not participating in this flurry of trades. I've seen some considerable reaches so far. Identify your guys, set a price and stay fairly true to that price. There has to be some give and take, but don't kill the other areas of need to, potentially, satisfy one position. Besides, I'm sure the Texans did their fair share of "illegal" tampering at the combine, so they have an idea of who wants what. It would be great to be a fly on the wall at the Combine to see which teams try to play a 1st time GM like Gaine.
 
DocBar said:
I disagree. 2 years ago, I would've gone all in for Sherman. A ruptured Achilles and a "minor" surgery to repair the contralateral (CnD getting me to use big words. :D) have made Sherman a commodity not even worth pursuing. No way would he accept the vet minimum 1 year offer I'd offer, so why insult him for no gain?
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Nice work on the big words! lol

I misunderstood your initial post. Would I have rejected the idea of him on the Texans even though I thought/think he is a bit overrated? No way. I just don't think he as good as all the over the top praise he gets. He's good, I'm not arguing that.
 
michaelm said:
I'm not reaching. My point is that the super bowl your referenced is totally irrelevant to the conversation.

Playing off your SB reference, though, let's talk about the architect who built that team and how a SB winning GM is willing to trade a player from that same team.

And I don't have a problem with the Rams making that trade, my problem is with people using that trade to bash the Texans FO because they didn't make it

29 other teams also didn't make that trade. I guess they all suck too?
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Lets see how the Rams do next season, then continue this discussion.
 
austins23 said:
Nice work on the big words! lol

I misunderstood your initial post. Would I have rejected the idea of him on the Texans even though I thought/think he is a bit overrated? No way. I just don't think he as good as all the over the top praise he gets. He's good, I'm not arguing that.
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If recovered and totally healthy.

No way I spend what it will take to get Sherman and hoping his achillies heals.
 
DocBar said:
I could see getting Thomas, but I'd avoid Sherman like the plague. Ed Reed 2.0
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Eh, Sherman’s a technique/length guy and didn’t depend on his speed as much as Ed Reed did. I could easily see him coming back and being just as effective as he was pre-Achilles injury.
 
Mr teX said:
Eh, Sherman’s a technique/length guy and didn’t depend on his speed as much as Ed Reed did. I could easily see him coming back and being just as effective as he was pre-Achilles injury.
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Yeah, his technique was great with not drawing flags and he had an HC who told him "the refs will only call it a couple times a game" and was willing to live with it.
 
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They obviously have the Browns FO on speed dial, so I wonder if they've inquired about Joe Thomas. I'm OK with the Texans not participating in this flurry of trades. I've seen some considerable reaches so far. Identify your guys, set a price and stay fairly true to that price. There has to be some give and take, but don't kill the other areas of need to, potentially, satisfy one position. Besides, I'm sure the Texans did their fair share of "illegal" tampering at the combine, so they have an idea of who wants what. It would be great to be a fly on the wall at the Combine to see which teams try to play a 1st time GM like Gaine.
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Remember when Smith got roasted around here because we backed out of the Asomugha sweepstakes and had to "settle for" Johnathan Joseph and Danieal Manning...?
I'm hoping for something like that from Gaine this off-season.
....except this time to improve the O-line
 
ObsiWan said:
Remember when Smith got roasted around here because we backed out of the Asomugha sweepstakes and had to "settle for" Johnathan Joseph and Danieal Manning...?
I'm hoping for something like that from Gaine this off-season.
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Tbh, I recall most people being ok with or liking the deal to get Joseph and Manning.
 
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Tbh, I recall most people being ok with or liking the deal to get Joseph and Manning.
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I'm talking about the little period after Asomugha 'got away' and before we signed Manning/Joseph. Remember they didn't sign until right before TC started.
After folks saw we got a twofer, they relaxed.
:)
 
There was a lot of revisionist history after Nmandi sucked in a new system and JJo was pro bowl. Everyone thought it was all Wade & Smith got a grumpy pass.
 
ObsiWan said:
I'm talking about the little period after Asomugha 'got away' and before we signed Manning/Joseph. Remember they didn't sign until right before TC started.
After folks saw we got a twofer, they relaxed.
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I don’t remember it like that at all.

I went ahead and pulled up the thread that was made when we “moved on” from Nmadi and signed Joseph: http://www.texanstalk.com/threads/johnathan-joseph-a-texan.83406/page-3

As you can see most people are either ok with it or pumped.

I just don’t remember there being a whole lot of bitching about not getting Nmadi and “settling” on Jjo.

Matter of fact there was so much love being thrown at Joseph it prompted @Texecutioner to say this:

Texecutioner said:
Now all of a sudden people are trying to question whether Joseph is better than Nnamdi?? Man, this place is amazing at times. Lol!
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Edit: oh and some people actually suggested the twofer’ before it happened
 
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banned1976 said:
It's just confidence. With anything. Now, I will add when I started my career in manufacturing I was quiet. I was learning. But the guy I car pooled with from Katy to Sealy and back abruptly stopped talking to me at work one day. He extended that silence in the car until he said "do you know why I'm not talking to you?". Of course I wondered. We worked together, we car pooled together. He had worked in manufacturing probably 10-15 years, I just started, I looked up to him, he was a leader. And before I could answer he said, "because I can't hear you". From that point on, I spoke up, I asked questions and I got damn good at my job. I went from an assembly line worker to a Quality Engineer with the company. Eventually I became a Director of a medical and aerospace designer and manufacturer; all w/o a college degree.

If you're an IT guy, a programmer (nothing wrong with that, my brother has made a career out of it), yeah, nobody expects you to command the room. But if you're a 30 year veteran coach in the NFL (usually, not always, a more disciplined field than manufacturing) you're going to find your voice or you'll probably be a "not for long" guy. IMHO.

And that is why I like the hiring of Brad Seely. I know nothing of his personal life. I only know that he is a 3X Super Bowl champ and he has an extensive NFL career as a leader. Good 'nuff.
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You're selling programmers short.
 
Mr teX said:
Eh, Sherman’s a technique/length guy and didn’t depend on his speed as much as Ed Reed did. I could easily see him coming back and being just as effective as he was pre-Achilles injury.
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Speed has nothing to do with rupturing an Achilles. The Achilles ruptures classically occur on sudden forceful pushoffs and cuts.
 
JB said:
yep... let Norwell/Solder go early and sign Sitton/Pugh/Gain later

And trade for Thomas
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or sign Norwell and Solder and Sitton and Ju'Waun James (when he is released prior to Weds.) and two corners and a safety....
 
xtruroyaltyx said:
I don’t remember it like that at all.

I went ahead and pulled up the thread that was made when we “moved on” from Nmadi and signed Joseph: http://www.texanstalk.com/threads/johnathan-joseph-a-texan.83406/page-3

As you can see most people are either ok with it or pumped.

I just don’t remember there being a whole lot of bitching about not getting Nmadi and “settling” on Jjo.

Matter of fact there was so much love being thrown at Joseph it prompted @Texecutioner to say this:



Edit: oh and some people actually suggested the twofer’ before it happened
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I'll confess that I wanted Nmadi and created trade scenarios for two years but am relieved we didn't get him. I was amazed we got Joseph and Manning. I hope to be amazed again this off season with who we get.
 
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