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2009 Member Mock (Second) Rounds 4-7

JCTexan said:
Jennings is still a good pick at the top of the fourth round. He would be Jackson's backup if the Rams got him. Please don't complain about the pick just because Jennings didn't fall to you. :shades:
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I never said it wasn't a good pick or a great value. I was thinking he was going to slide to the Texans, which would have been a great for me. There are other quality backs that will be there if I decide to go rb.

Now, shut your pie-hole and continue to moderate. Since you are in charge now, would you please update the picks? Thanks.
 
bah007 said:
I don't buy the notion that a good RB combo needs one speed guy and one power guy. I would rather just have the two best guys I can get. That's just me though, I guess.
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We absolutely need a good short yardage back. Look at most of the successful combos, Stewart/Williams, Whine/Dine, Jacobs/Ward, etc.
 
Shaft75 said:
I never said it wasn't a good pick or a great value. I was thinking he was going to slide to the Texans, which would have been a great for me. There are other quality backs that will be there if I decide to go rb.

Now, shut your pie-hole and continue to moderate. Since you are in charge now, would you please update the picks? Thanks.
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And Raji would have been a nice pick at #24 for the Falcons...


ROUND 4.

97.) Dallas Cowgirls (F/DET) Select: Derrick Williams, WR, Penn State

98.) Kansas City Chiefs Select: Xavier Fulton, OT, Illinois

99.) St. Louis Rams Select: Rashad Jennings, RB, Liberty

100.) Cleveland Browns Select: T.J. Lang, OT Eastern Michigan

The Seahawks are on the clock... group pick?
 
Shaft75 said:
We absolutely need a good short yardage back. Look at most of the successful combos, Stewart/Williams, Whine/Dine, Jacobs/Ward, etc.
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We do need a good back on the goal line, but it doesn't necessarily have to be a power back.

Priest Holmes was excellent inside the 5 and he was more of an elusive guy than anything else.

If it were me running the draft, if I decided to go running back I would take the best guy at that spot, not the biggest guy.

I guess we just differ there.
 
HOU-TEX said:
I'm recommending a WR or Dline for the Hawks. I understand they got Housh in FA, but WR is still a need.

HOU-TEX's pick would be, Matt Shaughnessy, Wisconsin DE

or

Johnny Knox, Abilene Christian WR

I think I'd lean towards defense by going with the DE. What say you?
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JCTexan said:
And Raji would have been a nice pick at #24 for the Falcons...


ROUND 4.

97.) Dallas Cowgirls (F/DET) Select: Derrick Williams, WR, Penn State

98.) Kansas City Chiefs Select: Xavier Fulton, OT, Illinois

99.) St. Louis Rams Select: Rashad Jennings, RB, Liberty

100.) Cleveland Browns Select: T.J. Lang, OT Eastern Michigan

The Seahawks are on the clock... group pick?
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I posted my thoughts on the Seahawks earlier. Thoughts?
 
Seahawks could use a Guard, another WR, Safety and or CB. LB would also be something we should look at since they traded away Julian Peterson.
 
Texan4Ever said:
Seahawks could use a Guard, another WR, Safety and or CB. LB would also be something we should look at since they traded away Julian Peterson.
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They have already selected a guard in this draft.

4.) Eugene Monroe, OT, Virgina
37.) Sean smith, CB/S, Utah
68.) Andy Levitre, OG, Oregon State
 
JCTexan said:
Via PM from Wolverinefan with the 99th pick in the draft the St. Louis Rams select... Rashad Jennings, RB, Liberty.
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Son of a *****!!!!! I new it!!!!!:foottap:

Ole Miss Texan said:
Cadogan was selected 96th overall by the Steelers. You guys can't have him! :hunter:
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SORRY! I thought I had the list complete. It was really late when I made and I was really tired. I was hoping it would speed things up but apperently it didnt do any good.:gun:
 
Shaft75 said:
They are completely different backs. Slaton is a burner and Jennings would be the force. Stephen Jackson can mix it up in the middle. Jennings and Jackson wouldn't compliment as well as Jennings and Slaton.
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I understand what you're saying here, but like bah said earlier they don't have to "compliment" each other for it to work. They are actually very similar in style so that would be useful in the fact that nothing has to change in the offense when the other one is in.

Jackson can both run with speed and with power which means having a speedier compliment to him isn't really a need. With Jennings you get someone who, while unproven, can also run with speed and power. IMO it's a great pairing.
 
I will take the Jets unless we are going to do group picks with the vacant teams.

It isn't like the Redskins have any draft picks. LOL
 
Anyway here is an updated list of players left.

Player College Position1 Position2

DL

Vance Walker Georgia Tech DT43
Sammie Lee Hill Stillman DT43 DE34
Roy Miller Texas DT43 DT34
Alex Magee Purdue DT43 DE34
Matt Shaughnessy Wisconsin DE43
Orion Martin Virginia Tech DE43 OLB34
Chris Baker Hampton DT43 DT34
Brandon Williams Texas Tech DE43
David Veikune Hawaii DE43
Corvey Irvin Georgia DT43
Terrance Taylor Michigan DT34
Michael Bennett Texas A&M DE43
Phillip Hunt Houston DE43 OLB34
Ian Campbell Kansas St DE43


LB

Kaluka Maiava USC OLB43
Gerald McRath Southern Miss ILB
Cody Brown Connecticut OLB43 OLB34
Jason Phillips TCU ILB
Zack Follett California OLB43
Dannell Ellerbe Georgia ILB
Jonathan Casillas Wisconsin OLB43
Josh Mauga Nevada ILB
Victor Butler Oregon St OLB43
Mortty Ivy West Virginia OLB43
Maurice Evans Penn State DE43 OLB34
Brian Toal Boston College OLB43
Moise Fokou Maryland OLB43

SECONDARY

Chip Vaughn Wake Forest SS
Emanuel Cook South Carolina SS
Asher Allen Georgia CB
Michael Hamlin Clemson SS
Cary Harris USC CB
Nic Harris Oklahoma SS
DeAngelo Smith Cincinnati CB
Captain Munnerlyn South Carolina CB
Derek Pegues Mississippi St FS
Domonique Johnson Jackson State CB
Sherrod Martin Troy FS
Kevin Ellison USC SS
C.J. Spillman Marshall FS

OL

Ray Feinga BYU OG
Andy Kemp Wisconsin OG
Ryan Stanchek West Virginia OT OG
Louis Vasquez Texas Tech OG
Andrew Hartline Central Michigan OT OG
Jason Watkins Florida OT
Lydon Murtha Nebraska OT
Greg Isdaner West Virginia OG
Augustus Parrish Kent State OT OG
Sebastian Vollmer Houston OT
Jose Valdez Arkansas OT
A.Q. Shipley Penn State OC

RB

Glen Coffee Alabama RBF
Javon Ringer Michigan State RBF
Andre Brown North Carolina St RBF
Jeremiah Johnson Oregon RBC
James Davis Clemson RBF
Cedric Peerman Virginia RBC
Kory Sheets Purdue RBF
Gartrell Johnson Colorado State RBF
Marlon Lucky Nebraska RBF
Arian Foster Tennessee RBF
P.J. Hill Wisconsin RBF
Ian Johnson Boise State RBC
Tyrell Sutton Northwestern RBC
Quinn Johnson LSU FB

WR & TE

Johnny Knox Abilene Christian WRS
Louis Murphy Florida WRF
Cornelius Ingram Florida TE
Travis Beckum Wisconsin TE
Mohamed Massaquoi Georgia WRF
Kevin Ogletree Virginia WRF
Kenny McKinley South Carolina WRF WRS
Austin Collie BYU WRF
Brandon Tate North Carolina WRF
Demetrius Byrd LSU WRF
Kory Sperry Colorado State TE
Sammy Stroughter Oregon St WRS
Ryan Purvis Boston College TE
Quan Cosby Texas WRF WRS
Bear Pascoe Fresno St TE
Darius Passmore Marshall WRF

QB

Rhett Bomar Sam Houston St QB
Stephen McGee Texas A&M QB
John Parker Wilson Alabama QB
Hunter Cantwell Louisville QB
Cullen Harper Clemson QB
Graham Harrell Texas Tech QB
Curtis Painter Purdue QB
Rudy Carpenter Arizona State QB

THE REST

Kevin Barnes Maryland CB
Louie Sakoda Utah PK
Courtney Greene Rutgers SS
Jason Williams Western Illinois OLB43 OLB34
Tony Fiammetta Syracuse FB
Morgan Trent Michigan CB
Jaimie Thomas Maryland OG
Patrick Turner USC WRP WRS
Tyronne Green Auburn OG
Aaron Kelly Clemson WRP
Otis Wiley Michigan State SS
Christopher Owens San Jose St CB
Brandon Underwood Cincinnati FS
Cornelius Lewis Tennessee State OT OG
Joe Burnett Central Florida CB
Frantz Joseph Florida Atlantic ILB
John Faletoese Cal Davis DT43
Cameron Morrah California TE
Devin Moore Wyoming RBC
Troy Nolan Arizona State FS
Tom Brandstater Fresno St QB

Anthony Hill North Carolina St TE
Alex Boone Ohio State OT
Chris Clemons Clemson FS
Clinton McDonald Memphis State DT43
Brooks Foster North Carolina WRF
Jahi Word-Daniels Georgia Tech CB
Curtis Taylor LSU FS
Bruce Johnson Miami CB
Keith Fitzhugh Mississippi St SS
Worrell Williams California ILB
Anthony Parker Tennessee OG
Joel Bell Furman OT
John Phillips Virginia TE
Travis McCall Alabama FB
Nathan Brown Central Arkansas QB
Ra'Shon Harris Oregon DT43 DE34
Jerraud Powers Auburn CB
DeAndre Levy Wisconsin OLB43
Andrew Gardner Georgia Tech OT
Lee Robinson Alcorn State OLB43 ILB
Brandon Hughes Oregon St CB
Kevin Huber Cincinnati P
Don Carey Norfolk State CB

Tim Jamison Michigan DE43
Marcus McClinton Kentucky FS
Deon Butler Penn State WRS
Kevin Akins Boston College OLB43
Jake Ingram Hawaii LS
Garrett Reynolds North Carolina OT
Jose Martinez UTEP PK
Conredge Collins Pittsburgh FB
Dominique Edison Stephen F. Austin WRF WRS
Nader Abdallah Ohio State DT43 DT34
Ramon Foster Tennessee OT OG
Dan Gronkowski Maryland TE
Derek Walker Illinois DE43
Jeremy Childs Boise State WRS WRF
Tiquan Underwood Rutgers WRS WRF
Reshard Langford Vanderbilt SS
Corey Smith Cincinnati OLB43
David Buehler USC PK
Edwin Williams Maryland OC
Jared Bronson Cen Washington TE
Lendy Holmes Oklahoma FS
Bradley Fletcher Iowa CB
Thomas Morstead SMU P
Khalif Mitchell East Carolina DT43 DT34
Marquez Branson Central Arkansas FB
Will Davis Illinois DE43 OLB34
Lardarius Webb Nicholls State CB
Kyle Link McNeese State OT
Jamarko Simmons Western Michigan WRP
Cecil Newton Tennessee State OC
Brian Hoyer Michigan State QB
Antonio Appleby Virginia ILB
Graham Gano Florida State P
Anthony Felder California ILB
Dallas Reynolds BYU OC
Pannel Egboh Stanford DE43
Trimane Goddard North Carolina SS
Brannan Southerland Georgia FB
Ellis Lankster West Virginia CB
Justin Brantly Texas A&M P
Pat McAfee West Virginia PK
Travis Bright BYU OG
Davon Drew East Carolina TE
Juan Garcia Washington OC
Darryl Richard Georgia Tech DT43 DT34
Robert Brewster Ball State OT OG

Aaron Brown TCU RBC RBF
Jeremy Navarre Maryland DE43
Stephen Hodge TCU RBF
Dominic Douglas Mississippi St ILB
Dre'Mail Hardin Stillman FS
Ryan McKee Southern Miss OT
Eric Thatcher Pittsburgh FS
Stryker Sulak Missouri DE43 OLB34
Terrance Knighton Temple DT43 DT34
David Johnson Arkansas State FB
Ryan Durand Syracuse OG
Ashlee Palmer Mississippi OLB43
Javarris Williams Tennessee State RBF
Will Dunbar UAB FS
Londen Fryar Western Michigan CB
Ryan Walters Colorado FS
Dan Gay Baylor OT OG
Johnny Williams Kentucky OLB43 OLB34
Demonte Bolden Tennessee DT43 DE34
Greg Orton Purdue WRF
Jon Cooper Oklahoma OC
Maurice Crum Jr. Notre Dame ILB
Robert Francois Boston College OLB43
Pierre Walters Eastern Illinois DE43 OLB34
Javorris Jackson Savannah State FS
Brian Mandeville Northeastern TE
Terence Moore Troy SS
Mike Goodson Texas A&M RBC
Ryan Palmer Texas CB
Cody Glenn Nebraska OLB43
Manuel Johnson Oklahoma WRF WRS
Mike Reilly Cen Washington QB
Mike Wallace Mississippi WRS
Brett Helms LSU OC
Chris Miller Ball State P
Seth Olsen Iowa OG
Will Johnson Michigan DT43 DE34
Marko Mitchell Nevada WRF
Jordan Norwood Penn State WRS
Glover Quin New Mexico CB
Donald Washington Ohio State CB
Curtis Brinkley Syracuse RBC
Rulon Davis California DE43
Wopamo Osaisai Stanford CB

Branden Ledbetter Western Michigan TE
Roger Allen Missouri Western OG
Willie Tuitama Arizona QB
Darius Hill Ball State TE
Eric Kettani Navy FB
D.J. Boldin Wake Forest WRP
Jason Boltus Hartwick QB
Bernard Scott Abilene Christian RBC
Jake Richardson Miami (OH) P
Lydell Sargeant Penn State CB
Greg Carr Florida State WRP
Brett Warren Virginia Tech ILB
Zach Potter Nebraska DE43 DE34
Al Afalava Oregon St SS
Rylan Reed Texas Tech OT
Taurus Johnson South Florida WRF
Everette Pedescleaux Northern Iowa DE43 DE34
Maurice Miller Mississippi OG
Slade Norris Oregon State OLB43 OLB34
Marlon Favorite LSU DT34 DT43
David Richmond San Jose St WRF
David Johnson Tulsa QB
Sam Swank Wake Forest PK
Richard Quinn North Carolina TE
Colt Anderson Montana FS
 
Even though we couldn't come to an agreement, since the time is about to run out I'll make the pick now.

With pick 101 the Seattle Seahawks select... Demetrius Byrd, WR, LSU.
 
ROUND 4.

97.) Dallas Cowgirls (F/DET) Select: Derrick Williams, WR, Penn State

98.) Kansas City Chiefs Select: Xavier Fulton, OT, Illinois

99.) St. Louis Rams Select: Rashad Jennings, RB, Liberty

100.) Cleveland Browns Select: T.J. Lang, OT Eastern Michigan

101.) Seattle Seahawks select: Demetrius Byrd, WR, LSU.

102.) Cincinnati Bengals Select:

103.) Jacksonville Jaguars Select:

104.) Oakland Raiders Select:

105.) Green Bay Packers Select:

106.) Buffalo Bills Select:

107.) San Francisco 49ers Select:

108.) Houston Texans Select:

109.) San Diego Chargers Select:

110.) Denver Broncos Select:
 
Bucs, Titans & Seahawks are still available.

Lions - Super Mario
Rams - WolverineFan
Chiefs - beerlover
Seahawks -
Browns - HOU-TEX
Bengals - mussop
Raiders - Goldensilence
Jaguars - Texan4Ever
Packers - Diehardchris
Niners - Specnatz
Bills - TexansSeminole
Broncos - Kaiser Toro
Redskins - steelbtexan
Saints - The Pencil Neck
Texans - Shaft75
Chargers - Tailgate
Jets - steelbtexan
Bears - jgl35
Buccaneers -
Eagles - Texan4Ever
Vikings - The Pencil Neck
Patriots - rmartin65
Falcons - JCTexan
Dolphins - Honoring Earl 34
Ravens - DiehardChris
Colts - Texan_JBZ
Giants - Lork 88
Titans -
Cardinals - jgl35
Steelers - Ole Miss Texan
Cowboys - Honoring Earl 34
Panthers - The Pencil Neck
 
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Guys I am reading the boards but I am working SXSW this week cause I can make more here than my other job. Hey I got to see third eye blind and I am getting into a show I cant name cause it is not listed as they are just doing a jam session free. The latter is not free.

I will pick for the Niners it just may be latter than y'all like. Just bare with me.
 
With pick # 102 of the 4th round the Cincinnati Bengals Select:

A.Q. Shipley OC Penn State.

Its probably a round to early for him but he is the last draftable C IMO and I have a huge need for one. My main goal in this draft was to improve the OL and pass rush. I believe I have accomplished that.

This has been a good mock with solid picks for the most part. It has opened my eyes to a few things. I would probably pick a little differently if I could do it over. If this mock holds even relatively true then there is going to be some very good talent left for us in the later rounds. Breaking down whats left has made me realize that there are more Rotational DL in this draft than I had believed. By rotational I mean not coming in and starting right away but being talented enough to be included in the rotation early on.
Guys like
Vance Walker Georgia Tech DT43
Sammie Lee Hill Stillman DT43 DE34
Roy Miller Texas DT43 DT34
Alex Magee Purdue DT43 DE34
Matt Shaughnessy Wisconsin DE43
Orion Martin Virginia Tech DE43 OLB34
Chris Baker Hampton DT43 DT34
Brandon Williams Texas Tech DE43
David Veikune Hawaii DE43
Corvey Irvin Georgia DT43
Terrance Taylor Michigan DT34
Michael Bennett Texas A&M DE43
Phillip Hunt Houston DE43 OLB34
Ian Campbell Kansas St DE43

Also there is a pretty good group of draftable RB's left.

Glen Coffee Alabama RBF
Quinn Johnson LSU FB
Javon Ringer Michigan State RBF
Andre Brown North Carolina St RBF
Jeremiah Johnson Oregon RBC
James Davis Clemson RBF
Cedric Peerman Virginia RBC
Kory Sheets Purdue RBF
Gartrell Johnson Colorado State RBF
Marlon Lucky Nebraska RBF
Tyrell Sutton Northwestern RBC

This really looks good for us.

A.Q. Shipley Penn State OC
Ray Feinga BYU OG
Andy Kemp Wisconsin OG
Ryan Stanchek West Virginia OT OG
Louis Vasquez Texas Tech OG
Andrew Hartline Central Michigan OT OG
Jason Watkins Florida OT
Lydon Murtha Nebraska OT
Greg Isdaner West Virginia OG
Augustus Parrish Kent State OT OG
Sebastian Vollmer Houston OT
Jose Valdez Arkansas OT

Lots of good OL left. This is also incouraging.

Chip Vaughn Wake Forest SS
Emanuel Cook South Carolina SS
Michael Hamlin Clemson SS
Nic Harris Oklahoma SS
Derek Pegues Mississippi St FS
Sherrod Martin Troy FS
Kevin Ellison USC SS

Maybe another late round steal in the secondary?

Captain Munnerlyn South Carolina CB
Asher Allen Georgia CB
Domonique Johnson Jackson State CB
DeAngelo Smith Cincinnati CB
Cary Harris USC CB

Or LB?

Kaluka Maiava USC OLB43
Gerald McRath Southern Miss ILB
Cody Brown Connecticut OLB43 OLB34
Jason Phillips TCU ILB
Zack Follett California OLB43
Dannell Ellerbe Georgia ILB
Jonathan Casillas Wisconsin OLB43
Josh Mauga Nevada ILB
Victor Butler Oregon St OLB43
Mortty Ivy West Virginia OLB43
Maurice Evans Penn State DE43 OLB34
Brian Toal Boston College OLB43
 
threetoedpete said:
You better draft a RT pretty soon.... or you'll run out of QB's by the start of October. pickings getting slim boy.
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According to Smith, the Bears are starting the free agent they signed from Carolina at right tackle. Give me time, Pete, it's in the plan.
This draft got completly out of line with what I was going to do when Sanchez and Harvin fell to me.
 
I've been out of it the past few days. I've got a sinus infection AND the flu. I'm willing to pick up another team at this point. Vikings?
 
Specnatz said:
Guys I am reading the boards but I am working SXSW this week cause I can make more here than my other job. Hey I got to see third eye blind and I am getting into a show I cant name cause it is not listed as they are just doing a jam session free. The latter is not free.

I will pick for the Niners it just may be latter than y'all like. Just bare with me.
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Was it Metallica? I heard they were playing a surprise show.
 
Can we get an OFFICIAL ruling by whoever has taken over as the moderator as to what the clock is?

Are we still sticking with 12 hours at this point?
 
DiehardChris said:
Can we get an OFFICIAL ruling by whoever has taken over as the moderator as to what the clock is?

Are we still sticking with 12 hours at this point?
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I don't see why we would change it now. It has been 11 hours since the last pick, so hopefully the Jags make the pick soon.
 
JCTexan said:
I don't see why we would change it now. It has been 11 hours since the last pick, so hopefully the Jags make the pick soon.
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Cool. Just wanted to get an official word. And yeah, I asked because the clock is almost up. I'd love to keep this thing moving, obviously.
 
bah007 said:
If y'all end up doing a group pick I would advise a CB. They could use the depth there.

Otherwise, go BPA.
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I was literally about to post the same. All they've done to address their (what I think is a pretty desperate) need at CB is re-sign Scott Starks.

They could also use an OG I think... but CB looks like by far their biggest need.

Anyway, I'll keep from posting player names until the clock is out. Don't want to jump the gun.
 
DiehardChris said:
I was literally about to post the same. All they've done to address their (what I think is a pretty desperate) need at CB is re-sign Scott Starks.

They could also use an OG I think... but CB looks like by far their biggest need.
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I don't know, man. They could stand to draft a few more WR's. At this spot, maybe Brandon Gibson, Mike Wallace, or Mohamed Massaquoi.

Although at this spot, the better value may be CBs like Asher Allen or Kevin Barnes?
 
The Pencil Neck said:
I don't know, man. They could stand to draft a few more WR's. At this spot, maybe Brandon Gibson, Mike Wallace, or Mohamed Massaquoi.

Although at this spot, the better value may be CBs like Asher Allen or Kevin Barnes?
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I'd rather just wait until the time is up before going that far. The rep could still show up for them and he should get his time.
 
Hey, guys sorry for being so late, today is the Islamic new year so Iv'e been busy with stuff...anyways, I know CB is a need for the Jags but with the loss of Mike Peterson the Jags select...


Frantz Joseph


Couldn't find a pic but those who don't know Joseph heres a video that explains what this guy brings in terms of talent and skill.

Frantz Joseph is a MLB and an excellent player who can cover as well as lay the hammer on opposing players. Del Rio well absolutly turn him into a beast and he fits the Jags perfectly.

http://www.draftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/ilb/Frantz-Joseph.php
 
Found this in the old thread...

GoldenSilence said:
I can at least make it throug the fourth round though I am not as versed in some of the late round picks. While I haven't had a flashy draft for the Raiders I think that is something different in itself. I had to address one of the worst run defenses in the league and I think B.J. Raji will help tremendously will that. Javon Walker has not made the impact that they ahve hoped but if he's healthy this year Him and Britt will make great targets for Russell. My third round pick was hard to go with but if this offense is going to do anything next year they are going to have to be solid on the line. That was made difficult with Jake Grove leaving. I picked up whom I thought was the best center available in Caldwell.

So far I think Bah has done a good job for the Pack and I think Super Mario has done agood job retooling the Lions into a team that can bounce back from last year's disaster.
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