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Injury Discussion Thread

@NitroGSXR , @DocBar , @KoolAid Sipper , @TheRealJoker V2

Leg and foot swelling during air travel is common in uninjured persons due to just sitting with little movement for long periods of time. It's usually harmless. Leg injuries, especially those involving fracture, that already have significant swelling to begin with, could in some cases place additional pressure on the veins, disturb venous circulation and increase risk for blood clots forming. This is many times, especially in the case of more recent lower extremity injuries, why players are not allowed to travel with their teams.

As far as Watson, he was dealing with a cracked rib, a contused lung, and a partially collapsed lung (pneumothorax)..............conditions that could worsen his lung function, encourage further lung collapse and encourage blood clots to block main circulation to the lung (pulmonary embolus).
 
TexanBorn51 said:
According to this report Mixon is expected to be ready and play today no?
www.nbcsports.com

Texans expect Joe Mixon to play

Texans running back Joe Mixon is ready to make his return.
www.nbcsports.com www.nbcsports.com
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Not only that but I read he was going to be taking the “lion’s share” of carries. I think our defense can have this game under control so I do wish he would wait one more week. They’re starting to gel so let’s let our offense heal up a bit more.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
@NitroGSXR , @DocBar , @KoolAid Sipper , @TheRealJoker V2

Leg and foot swelling during air travel is common in uninjured persons due to just sitting with little movement for long periods of time. It's usually harmless. Leg injuries, especially those involving fracture, that already have significant swelling to begin with, could in some cases place additional pressure on the veins, disturb venous circulation and increase risk for blood clots forming. This is many times, especially in the case of more recent lower extremity injuries, why players are not allowed to travel with their teams.

As far as Watson, he was dealing with a cracked rib, a contused lung, and a partially collapsed lung (pneumothorax)..............conditions that could worsen his lung function, encourage further lung collapse and encourage blood clots to block main circulation to the lung (pulmonary embolus).
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Yeah that’s true. I use compression socks when I fly… overseas. A 2-3 hour domestic flight? Seems a bit extreme.
 
NitroGSXR said:
Yeah that’s true. I use compression socks when I fly… overseas. A 2-3 hour domestic flight? Seems a bit extreme.
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Not after his type of injury and with ongoing swelling due to a lower extremity injury. Cabin pressures are fairly controlled, but changes in air pressure inside the airplane cabin still occur cut down the amount of oxygen you take in. This lower oxygen in your blood can also make blood clots more likely to form. And many times following these type of injuries, small clots have already formed from the trauma and have remained asymptomatic and not travelled ................until another factor comes into play. I've taken care of young athletes that were injured and just wanted to take a short plane ride home to rehab...........and suffered pulmonary emboli which required extended hospitalization.

One thing to add, both lower extremity blood clots and even many pulmonary emboli are "silent" in which at one point become diagnosable with a worrisome prognosis.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
@NitroGSXR , @DocBar , @KoolAid Sipper , @TheRealJoker V2

Leg and foot swelling during air travel is common in uninjured persons due to just sitting with little movement for long periods of time. It's usually harmless. Leg injuries, especially those involving fracture, that already have significant swelling to begin with, could in some cases place additional pressure on the veins, disturb venous circulation and increase risk for blood clots forming. This is many times, especially in the case of more recent lower extremity injuries, why players are not allowed to travel with their teams.

As far as Watson, he was dealing with a cracked rib, a contused lung, and a partially collapsed lung (pneumothorax)..............conditions that could worsen his lung function, encourage further lung collapse and encourage blood clots to block main circulation to the lung (pulmonary embolus).
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Wish Derrick would've flown.
 
Assuming T’ooT’oo doesn’t make it through the concussion protocol in time for Sunday and with Shaair almost certainly OUT, no sign of Christian Harris’ return, the thinnest depth on our roster LB now has the 3 slated starters all out just at the point when we should have weathered the storm and have them all available.
 
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CloakNNNdagger said:
The team has finally identified that Lassiter had sustained a scapular (shoulder blade) fracture which will not require surgery. They are reporting that " he is expected to sideline him at least a few more games." The truth of the matter is that a player that has sustained a scapula fracture (even a stress fracture) that does not require surgery typically will not be able to return to contact sports safely before 6-8 weeks.............and sometimes up to 12 weeks. Aggressive return to activity too early can easily result in re-fracture.
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This potentially puts his return in the first week of January.

Nick better get on the phone.
 
Didn't know whether to put this here or in the player transaction discussion thread but I think it's useful.
www.profootballrumors.com

Injured Reserve Return Tracker

This offseason brought a change in how teams could construct their 53-man rosters while retaining flexibility with injured players. Clubs …
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From the article as of Oct 12, 2024:

Houston Texans​

Designated for return from IR (August 27):
Eligible for activation:
Activated:
Activations remaining: 5
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KoolAid Sipper said:
Shoulder injury is what is being listed...maybe @CloakNNNdagger can give us some insight
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Fatukasi sustained a shoulder subluxation in week 2. He has been trying to play thru this injury up until now. This injury is not a new issue since he joined the Texans. Last year while with the Jags, he suffered a shoulder dislocation and played thru most of the season with this problem managing to avoid missing a game, but with unimpressive production..................almost like this season.
 
Rich Schmidt said:
Interesting Lassiter is not on IR yet, any latest thoughts/news on that Doc?
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I don't know either.

I previously addressed the injury in the Injury Thread:

The team has finally identified that Lassiter had sustained a scapular (shoulder blade) fracture which will not require surgery. They are reporting that " he is expected to sideline him at least a few more games." The truth of the matter is that a player that has sustained a scapula fracture (even a stress fracture) that does not require surgery typically will not be able to return to contact sports safely before 6-8 weeks.............and sometimes up to 12 weeks. Aggressive return to activity too early can easily result in re-fracture.
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CloakNNNdagger said:
Kamari Lassiter LP................don't have any idea what is going on with him............just know that if they have honestly reported his injury, he should not play this soon.
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It's probably what we may all expect which is rushing him back too soon. I find it incredible that they haven't learned the lesson to not do this after so many have already been hit with longer injury layoffs than was necessary from doing this.
 
Rich Schmidt said:
Word has been ahead of schedule, so yes, should see him fully healthy against the Lions.
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"Ahead of schedule" is the last thing I want to hear concerning a hamstring.

"We're taking it day by day, listening to the doctors, listening to his body... we'd rather err on the side of caution."
 
Concerned about To’o To’o with the quick turnaround. Not sure why he was a DNP Thursday but back today. If they put him out there then chance to get a more severe concussion this game or next with a short week i’d think.

And if Ward/Azeez aren’t practicing this week, I don’t see them making the trip to Gotham to play the Jets next week.
 
I'm pretty sure an independent Dr. has to clear a player coming off a concussion. He may be doing some walk-thru work but until he's officially cleared...he's not playing in a game. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong.
 
Porky said:
I'm pretty sure an independent Dr. has to clear a player coming off a concussion. He may be doing some walk-thru work but until he's officially cleared...he's not playing in a game. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong.
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Keep in mind that the sideline "independent Dr" (neurologist) allowed Case Keenum to return immediately after suffering an obvious punch drunk concussion, Tom Savage was allowed to return to the game immediately after an obvious fencer's pose, Tua was allowed back in the game after being obviously unstable from his hit to the turf.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
Keep in mind that the sideline "independent Dr" (neurologist) allowed Case Keenum to return immediately after suffering an obvious punch drunk concussion, Tom Savage was allowed to return to the game immediately after an obvious fencer's pose, Tua was allowed back in the game after being obviously unstable from his hit to the turf.
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You'd think the 'independent' DR was paid by the team/league
 
JB said:
You'd think the 'independent' DR was paid by the team/league
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They obviously don't work for free! Someone has to pay for their services. So the NFL hires and compensates the "independent" neurotrauma consultants who work at NFL games. The NFL and the NFL Players Association (NFLPA) select the consultants, who are "independent" from either team. They now refer to these consultants, not as "independent," but as "unaffiliated," as they are unaffiliated to any team..............but they remain strongly affiliated with the NFL.

This is all a big game...................the NFL, it should be obvious is not all that concerned about player safety as it is concerned that they don't want players, especially important money-generating ones, taken off the field................and, as much as you may believe that the NFLPA is concerned about their players' safety, they are more concerned (with the encouragement of players) about the labelling of a player as having a history of concussion and/or them losing money from being removed from game(s).

And that is your NFL unmasked!
 
What is supposed to happen if an NFL team breaks concussion protocol? To ensure consistent implementation of the Protocol, the NFL and NFLPA developed an enforcement policy, which includes a process to investigate clubs that fail to follow the protocol and determine appropriate discipline – including fines and possible forfeiture of draft picks. [ https://operations.nfl.com/inside-f...ntation of,possible forfeiture of draft picks. ]

When have you ever seen this implemented????????????
 
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