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Injury Discussion Thread

At least 4. That's fine. Keeps them from being tempted to bring him back sooner. He'll be needed more toward the latter part of the season anyway. Now it's time for someone else to step up and build some chemistry with CJ.
 
I would think it’s Hutchinson time? I’m thinking that they’re going to target Diggs but it’s Hutch who has the Collins size.
Last yr Tank was the man when it was just Collins and Dell to go with Noah/Hutch etc... Losing Nico takes away the teams best deep threat. Slowik's going to have to scheme the WR's open more often. They really need to get Mixon back.
 
Last yr Tank was the man when it was just Collins and Dell to go with Noah/Hutch etc... Losing Nico takes away the teams best deep threat. Slowik's going to have to scheme the WR's open more often. They really need to get Mixon back.
Yeah Mixon is the big factor… but could you say that Diggs basically took away Dell’s position? I think so. Dell sure can run though.
 
Yeah Mixon is the big factor… but could you say that Diggs basically took away Dell’s position? I think so. Dell sure can run though.
Dell's strength is he's able to make sharp cuts at full speed. He's got avg long speed and it's harder to complete long throws to shorter WR's.
 
Nico hasn’t had a healthy season yet. He’s not Will Fuller level…but it’s concerning.hope he does his four weeks,…and is 100% healed and ready.
 
Collins has been placed on IR for his right hamstring. Bringing players back too soon continue to happen and this is the results...............possibly gaining 1 game, while assuring that subsequently many more games are lost.

Some have noted that Collins walked off the field evidently being fine. Many players sustaining serious lower extremity injuries can still walk like what appears to be normal.
Do you feel that 4 weeks will be enough time for Nico the heal? Or is it something that is week to week after that? I'm really most concerned with the Texans tough stretch in December, and a playoff run.
 
Just challenging the cost of a great WR
That’s fair. I agree.

How about this…. I can see us having a player put on IR as a direct result of having a great WR,

To better explain what I mean… I’m watching the movie “Troy” right now and seeing these guys sacrifice their lives for the great ones. It’s still part of the cost of glory.
 
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Do you feel that 4 weeks will be enough time for Nico the heal? Or is it something that is week to week after that? I'm really most concerned with the Texans tough stretch in December, and a playoff run.
Based on what CnD has taught us over the years, this is one of those injuries where CnD would have to see the MRI to have any idea. I'm not counting on Nico pulling a Foster and posting it on social media.
 
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Just saying, with Fuller it didn't seem to matter how long he was held out.
He's unlikely to play a full season each year. The best case scenario is this latest injury teaches him more about how to listen to his body and when to rest it. His hamstring was nagging him before this game, so there should be something to learn from this one.

I'm counting on Hutchinson to run Nico's X routes. If Diggs could still stretch the field like Nico, we would have seen it already. And I don't know what's up with Dell. All I know is his leg has been broken and shot, and now he's not dazzling anyone like he did last season.
 
Do you feel that 4 weeks will be enough time for Nico the heal? Or is it something that is week to week after that? I'm really most concerned with the Texans tough stretch in December, and a playoff run.
Based on what CnD has taught us over the years, this is one of those injuries where CnD would have to see the MRI to have any idea. I'm not counting on Nico pulling a Foster and posting it on social media.
MRIs have been shown to be accurate in assessing the extent of injury to the hamstrings. However, study after study has failed to use MRIs in accurately prognosticating the best time for player return to play. Return to play is best determined to occur clinically when the player is entirely discomfort free....................something that teams and players have a difficult time waiting for. We have a general idea what the minimum time is for each grade injury............but after that, the subjective and objective evaluations will best determine when there should be a return....................and that is, only if there is honesty on the part of the player and the team physician............both who tend to all too often try to cut corners.

Once a hamstring-injured player does return to play, recurrence is a very real risk, especially for the next month, but lingering into a year (with some players evidently being at risk for the rest of their careers).
 
Once a hamstring-injured player does return to play, recurrence is a very real risk, especially for the next month, but lingering into a year (with some players evidently being at risk for the rest of their careers
Are there reasons why some players are more likely to develop hamstring issues, other than previous hamstring problems? I had a chiropractor once tell me that my hamstring problems were the result of my spine curvature, scoliosis. But that was a chiropractor trying to get inside my pockets.
 
The problem with going “all in” is in the timing. If you miscalculate and forego one more good draft for depth and get key injuries you may have screwed the goose depending on the contracts and ages of the players signed. Hope NC isn’t wearing a goose down vest this winter. Lots of moving parts.
 
Are there reasons why some players are more likely to develop hamstring issues, other than previous hamstring problems? I had a chiropractor once tell me that my hamstring problems were the result of my spine curvature, scoliosis. But that was a chiropractor trying to get inside my pockets.
Any core problem can encourage lower extremity injuries.

A non-modifiable risk factor, of course, is previous hamstring injuries. Identified modifiable risk factors include shortened optimum muscle length, lack of muscle flexibility, strength imbalance, insufficient warm-up, fatigue, low back injury, and increased muscle neural tension (inability of the muscles to relax normally).

In my opinion, the most common cause in the NFL is that the quadriceps muscles (the hamstrings' opposing muscle group at the front of the thigh) are usually more powerful and easier to develop..............and during high-speed activities, the hamstring tends to become fatigued faster than the quadriceps with a resulting tear.
 
In my opinion, the most common cause in the NFL is that the quadriceps muscles (the hamstrings' opposing muscle group at the front of the thigh) are usually more powerful and easier to develop..............and during high-speed activities, the hamstring tends to become fatigued faster than the quadriceps with a resulting tear.
And the most-used method of strengthening the hamstring, usually hamstring curls, can shorten the muscle and cause a loss of flexibility. Kettle bells help but aren't enough to keep up with quad strength.

I heard that Maxx Crosby works out all year, which is why he's hardly ever injured. You'll notice he's not jacked, just quick and strong.
 
The problem with going “all in” is in the timing. If you miscalculate and forego one more good draft for depth and get key injuries you may have screwed the goose depending on the contracts and ages of the players signed. Hope NC isn’t wearing a goose down vest this winter. Lots of moving parts.
They're 4-1 and their depth has already been tested.
 
Pierce full but Mixon limited practice. Woods has not yet practiced.

Dameon Pierce (hamstring) practiced in full on Thursday.
Pierce and Joe Mixon (ankle) continue working their way back from their injuries. Pierce getting upgraded to full on Thursday is a good sign for his Week 6 availability, but he could have little to no fantasy upside if Mixon, who was limited on Thursday, is also active.
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Pierce full but Mixon limited practice. Woods has not yet practiced.

Dameon Pierce (hamstring) practiced in full on Thursday.
Pierce and Joe Mixon (ankle) continue working their way back from their injuries. Pierce getting upgraded to full on Thursday is a good sign for his Week 6 availability, but he could have little to no fantasy upside if Mixon, who was limited on Thursday, is also active.
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Both need a full week of full participation before playing. That's not saying that they're going to get it.
 
I'm counting on Hutchinson to run Nico's X routes. If Diggs could still stretch the field like Nico, we would have seen it already.
The X receiver doesn't necessarily have to stretch the defense, he just needs to be able to beat man coverage.

Hutchinson can easily stretch the defense from Z, the slot or out of a bunch.

Just saying, Hutchinson doesn't beat one on one any more consistently than Diggs.
 
Pierce full but Mixon limited practice. Woods has not yet practiced.

Dameon Pierce (hamstring) practiced in full on Thursday.
Pierce and Joe Mixon (ankle) continue working their way back from their injuries. Pierce getting upgraded to full on Thursday is a good sign for his Week 6 availability, but he could have little to no fantasy upside if Mixon, who was limited on Thursday, is also active.
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I would be cautious about making too much of yesterday's injury report............from the Injury Thread:

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You'll have to excuse me if I don't believe the practice implications of today's participations (in particular the players that had LP).................I suspect that this more reflects a cushy PR-type of practice, than a predictive one. We'll see how the rest of the week goes..........including for Hinish and Pierce.

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Thursday

DNP:
Kamari Lassiter (shoulder), Jimmie Ward (groin), Robert Woods (foot)

LP: Derek Barnett (shoulder), Kenyon Green (knee), Jake Hansen (back), Tytus Howard (hamstring), Joe Mixon (ankle), Del'Shawn Phillips (hip)

FP: Kurt Hinish (calf), Dameon Pierce (hamstring), Laremy Tunsil (ankle)
 
Pierce is playing unless he has a late setback. Mixon is close and if this was a game of great importance he would be out there. I suspect they will err on the side of caution and hold him out one more week to get him as close to 100% as possible.
 
I would hope that we could win this game without our injured having to participate. Another week off would be great for them.
 
Joe Mixon at practice today wearing a full leg compression garment...............a sign that his injury is inflamed and still swelling................a sign that would tell me to keep him out Sunday. That's not going to happen as the Texans have already made the decision to play him.
How does that compression garment indicate his ankle is still swelling? How does it support the ankle?
 
How does that compression garment indicate his ankle is still swelling? How does it support the ankle?
It's not meant to support anything. It is to contain swelling caused by the high ankle tears. High ankle tears are not necessarily restricted to the the ligaments in the immediate area of the ankle per se (classically the anterior tibiofibular ligament and posterior tibofibular ligament which stabilize the tibia to the fibula). What most do not understand is that there is a very long ligament that also is responsible for holding these two bones together much higher up from the ankle..............the interosseous ligament. When this long stabilizing ligament (in grey) is torn in the twisting motion, swelling involves the entire leg.

Hope this clarifies this for you.

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I thought Mixon had a low ankle sprain from the hip drop tackle. Your explanation helps to understand
From the time of the game in which he was injured and throughout the Injury Thread I said that the team has only been referring to the injury as "an ankle injury" trying to minimize it. Until only in the last 24 hours did the team admit to it (or let it slip) being a high ankle sprain.

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Texans running back Joe Mixon returns to practice from ankle sprain that kept him out past three games

Aaron Wilson, KPRC 2 Houston Texans Reporter
Published: October 10, 2024 at 12:28 PMUpdated: October 11, 2024 at 12:42 AM

HOUSTONTexans veteran running back Joe Mixon returned to practice Thursday on a limited basis from a sprained ankle suffered against the Chicago Bears on an illegal hip drop tackle.

Mixon is trending toward a potential return Sunday against the New England Patriots, barring a setback, according to league sources who expressed optimism that the California native is ready to go. Mixon is in the range for a full recovery from a less severe high-ankle sprain. Mixon said the decision will be made after practice Friday.
 
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