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2023 TEXANS DRAFT DISCUSSION

Regardless, getting hit by an NFL dude every week is going to have an affect on you. I know he’s in the SEC & all that. Still.
Jaren Handy Auburn 256 lbs

Jamar Watson Kentucky 241 lbs

Matthew Butler Tennessee 297lbs

Tre Williams Missouri 253 lbs

Trajan Jeffcoat Missouri 274 lbs

Chantz Williams Miami 255 lbs

Soloman Zubairu Mercer 255 lbs

Gervon Dexter Florida 312 lbs

Brenton Cox Florida 250 lbs

Josh Carr Southern Miss 240 lbs

Hayes Maples Southern Miss 228 lbs

Chance Campbell Mississippi 232 lbs

Sam Williams Mississippi 261 lbs

Cedric Johnson Mississippi 265 lbs

Leon O'Neal Texas A&M 205 lbs

Tyree Johnson 2X Texas A&M 241 lbs

Michael Clemons Texas A&M 270 lbs

Aaron Brule Mississippi St. 220 lbs

Roman Harrison Tennessee 244 lbs

Byron Young Tennessee 245 lbs

Damone Clark LSU 240 lbs

Neil Farrell LSU 325 lbs

Mike Jones LSU 230 lbs

Cameron Lewis LSU 195 lbs

Chris Ojoh New Mexico St. 220 lbs

Simeon Blair Arkansas 209 lbs

Hayden Henry Arkansas 225 lbs

Zach Williams Arkansas 245 lbs

Eric Gregory Arkansas 302 lbs

Colby Wooden Auburn 284 lbs

Derrick Hall 3X Auburn 256 lbs

Marcus Harris Auburn 294 lbs

TD Moultry Auburn 254 lbs

Smoke Monday Auburn 199 lbs

Daniel Grzesiak Utah State 245 lbs

Darrian Beavers Cincinnati 255 lbs

Wilson Huber Cincinnati 250 lbs

Channing Tindale Georgia 230 lbs

Travon Walker Georgia 275 lbs

Robert Beal Georgia 249 lbs

Nolan Smith Georgia 236 lbs

Jaylan Ford Texas 238 lbs

Ovie Oghoufo Texas 242 lbs

Lu Tillery UL Monroe 173 lbs

Drew Sanders Arkansas 232 lbs

Omari Thomas Tennessee 320 lbs

Nathaniel Watson 2X Mississippi St. 240 lbs

Randy Charlton Mississippi St. 270 lbs

BJ Ojalari LSU 250 lbs

Harold Perkins LSU 220 lbs

Otis Reese Mississippi 225 lbs

Isheem Young Mississippi 215 lbs + Tavious Robinson Mississippi 265 lbs = 480 total lbs

JJ Pegues Mississippi 315 lbs

Kory Chapman Austin Peay 185 lbs

Hosea Knifeley Austin Peay 229 lbs

Demetries Ford Austin Peay 170 lbs

VJ Payne Kansas St. 192 lbs

Daniel Green Kansas St. 242 lbs


No, that's not a Big Board. It's list of players who have sacked Bryce Young. Doesn't include those that hit Bryce Young after release of the pass. Or those that tackled Young while running the football. Just sacks.

You'll see players of every body type, 300+ lbers to little DBs. Just like the NFL has. I can prove that. Because about 30 players on this list either have played in the NFL, or will next season.
 
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Jaren Handy Auburn 256 lbs

Jamar Watson Kentucky 241 lbs

Matthew Butler Tennessee 297lbs

Tre Williams Missouri 253 lbs

Trajan Jeffcoat Missouri 274 lbs

Chantz Williams Miami 255 lbs

Soloman Zubairu Mercer 255 lbs

Gervon Dexter Florida 312 lbs

Brenton Cox Florida 250 lbs

Josh Carr Southern Miss 240 lbs

Hayes Maples Southern Miss 228 lbs

Chance Campbell Mississippi 232 lbs

Sam Williams Mississippi 261 lbs

Cedric Johnson Mississippi 265 lbs

Leon O'Neal Texas A&M 205 lbs

Tyree Johnson 2X Texas A&M 241 lbs

Michael Clemons Texas A&M 270 lbs

Aaron Brule Mississippi St. 220 lbs

Roman Harrison Tennessee 244 lbs

Byron Young Tennessee 245 lbs

Damone Clark LSU 240 lbs

Neil Farrell LSU 325 lbs

Mike Jones LSU 230 lbs

Cameron Lewis LSU 195 lbs

Chris Ojoh New Mexico St. 220 lbs

Simeon Blair Arkansas 209 lbs

Hayden Henry Arkansas 225 lbs

Zach Williams Arkansas 245 lbs

Eric Gregory Arkansas 302 lbs

Colby Wooden Auburn 284 lbs

Derrick Hall 3X Auburn 256 lbs

Marcus Harris Auburn 294 lbs

TD Moultry Auburn 254 lbs

Smoke Monday Auburn 199 lbs

Daniel Grzesiak Utah State 245 lbs

Darrian Beavers Cincinnati 255 lbs

Wilson Huber Cincinnati 250 lbs

Channing Tindale Georgia 230 lbs

Travon Walker Georgia 275 lbs

Robert Beal Georgia 249 lbs

Nolan Smith Georgia 236 lbs

Jaylan Ford Texas 238 lbs

Ovie Oghoufo Texas 242 lbs

Lu Tillery UL Monroe 173 lbs

Drew Sanders Arkansas 232 lbs

Omari Thomas Tennessee 320 lbs

Nathaniel Watson 2X Mississippi St. 240 lbs

Randy Charlton Mississippi St. 270 lbs

BJ Ojalari LSU 250 lbs

Harold Perkins LSU 220 lbs

Otis Reese Mississippi 225 lbs

Isheem Young Mississippi 215 lbs + Tavious Robinson Mississippi 265 lbs = 480 total lbs

JJ Pegues Mississippi 315 lbs

Kory Chapman Austin Peay 185 lbs

Hosea Knifeley Austin Peay 229 lbs

Demetries Ford Austin Peay 170 lbs

VJ Payne Kansas St. 192 lbs

Daniel Green Kansas St. 242 lbs


No, that's not a Big Board. It's list of players who have sacked Bryce Young. Doesn't include those that hit Bryce Young after release of the pass. Or those that tackled Young while running the football. Just sacks.

You'll see players of every body type, 300+ lbers to little DBs. Just like the NFL has. I can prove that. Because about 30 players on this list either have played in the NFL, or will next season.
Got it. Alabama is an NFL team playing NFL teams masquerading as CFB teams.
 
Also, does completion rate really mean much? Watson had a 70% completion the year they went 4-12. Completion rate is nice but if you can’t run the ball and sustain drives it doesn’t mean as much.
Well the purpose of Pierce and hopefully another similar is to have a running game. Slowik system supposedly improves oline, WR, RB and QB.
 
Jaren Handy Auburn 256 lbs

Jamar Watson Kentucky 241 lbs

Matthew Butler Tennessee 297lbs

Tre Williams Missouri 253 lbs

Trajan Jeffcoat Missouri 274 lbs

Chantz Williams Miami 255 lbs

Soloman Zubairu Mercer 255 lbs

Gervon Dexter Florida 312 lbs

Brenton Cox Florida 250 lbs

Josh Carr Southern Miss 240 lbs

Hayes Maples Southern Miss 228 lbs

Chance Campbell Mississippi 232 lbs

Sam Williams Mississippi 261 lbs

Cedric Johnson Mississippi 265 lbs

Leon O'Neal Texas A&M 205 lbs

Tyree Johnson 2X Texas A&M 241 lbs

Michael Clemons Texas A&M 270 lbs

Aaron Brule Mississippi St. 220 lbs

Roman Harrison Tennessee 244 lbs

Byron Young Tennessee 245 lbs

Damone Clark LSU 240 lbs

Neil Farrell LSU 325 lbs

Mike Jones LSU 230 lbs

Cameron Lewis LSU 195 lbs

Chris Ojoh New Mexico St. 220 lbs

Simeon Blair Arkansas 209 lbs

Hayden Henry Arkansas 225 lbs

Zach Williams Arkansas 245 lbs

Eric Gregory Arkansas 302 lbs

Colby Wooden Auburn 284 lbs

Derrick Hall 3X Auburn 256 lbs

Marcus Harris Auburn 294 lbs

TD Moultry Auburn 254 lbs

Smoke Monday Auburn 199 lbs

Daniel Grzesiak Utah State 245 lbs

Darrian Beavers Cincinnati 255 lbs

Wilson Huber Cincinnati 250 lbs

Channing Tindale Georgia 230 lbs

Travon Walker Georgia 275 lbs

Robert Beal Georgia 249 lbs

Nolan Smith Georgia 236 lbs

Jaylan Ford Texas 238 lbs

Ovie Oghoufo Texas 242 lbs

Lu Tillery UL Monroe 173 lbs

Drew Sanders Arkansas 232 lbs

Omari Thomas Tennessee 320 lbs

Nathaniel Watson 2X Mississippi St. 240 lbs

Randy Charlton Mississippi St. 270 lbs

BJ Ojalari LSU 250 lbs

Harold Perkins LSU 220 lbs

Otis Reese Mississippi 225 lbs

Isheem Young Mississippi 215 lbs + Tavious Robinson Mississippi 265 lbs = 480 total lbs

JJ Pegues Mississippi 315 lbs

Kory Chapman Austin Peay 185 lbs

Hosea Knifeley Austin Peay 229 lbs

Demetries Ford Austin Peay 170 lbs

VJ Payne Kansas St. 192 lbs

Daniel Green Kansas St. 242 lbs


No, that's not a Big Board. It's list of players who have sacked Bryce Young. Doesn't include those that hit Bryce Young after release of the pass. Or those that tackled Young while running the football. Just sacks.

You'll see players of every body type, 300+ lbers to little DBs. Just like the NFL has. I can prove that. Because about 30 players on this list either have played in the NFL, or will next season.


I case you missed this post I recommend you read it:

No one is speaking of Young's injury history at all.........apparently blowing it off as insignificant. Four A/C joint and one rotator cuff injury, even though grade I and II, is not insignificant in a 2-year history. Maybe Young can join Tua in his Judo classes.

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Regardless, getting hit by an NFL dude every week is going to have an affect on you. I know he’s in the SEC & all that. Still.

David Carr had a slight frame & he stood tall for over two years. I don’t think there are many people in the world that kind of tough.
David Carr 12 games was sacked 15 times with our first year line without Tunsil and Howard. We all expect an improved line in 2023 so..
 
Who has played football that doesn't have an injury history? Bryce Young has missed one start in his career at Alabama. And the guy many are pushing at QB, including @CloakNNNdagger, is currently rehabbing an ACL tear.

But hey, I like irony.

I can’t blame Doc. Everyone like a good Hooker. Even one in rehab.

Personally I would go with Stroud with 1.2 if you’re going to draft a QB.

But he doesn’t have as an exciting game as Young which I get why so many people are fans of Young.
 
Point is every year media hype around a prospect whose talent and skill is great for college but it doesn’t translate for NFL success.

It is what it is.
That's true. Every talent guy stacks his board different from each other at every position. Personally, I never thought Manziel or Tebow translated to NFL. Johnny so called strong point was his mobility until you realize how much faster the nfl defensive players are.
 
Who has played football that doesn't have an injury history? Bryce Young has missed one start in his career at Alabama. And the guy many are pushing at QB, including @CloakNNNdagger, is currently rehabbing an ACL tear.

But hey, I like irony.
Irony?

An ACL (as has been shown in the recent NFL ACL study I previously posted, has little effect on the long-term performance of a QB [in fact, the least of any position] when he returns................... far far what can be said from cumulative injuries to a throwing shoulder of a QB. .
 
Irony?

An ACL (as has been shown in the recent NFL ACL study I previously posted, has little effect on the long-term performance of a QB [in fact, the least of any position] when he returns................... far far what can be said from cumulative injuries to a throwing shoulder of a QB. .
Beat me to it as I was going to point to your chart. I keep hoping someone ignores your advice and brings huge offer for 1.2 and Young. If I am dreaming, I still want Seattle to trade from 5 to 1.2 for Anderson and Panthers to trade from 9 to 5 for Young.

Any who, off to bed and dreamland.
 
Personally I wouldn’t put as much emphasis on Young’s size as I would his awareness. His size is certainly a factor, but the longevity of his career will be affected more by his ability to avoid contact.

Does he have the awareness to get rid of the ball on time? Can he sense pressure from his blind side? If he can take less hits then other QBs then he is more likely to hold up in the long run.

A guy like Watson (among others) has the size, but he also hangs onto the ball and invites contact. That style is more likely to get injured then a smaller guy who plays smarter.

And I’m not saying Young does or doesn’t have those traits, just that that is what I’d be looking for to make my decision.
 
Who has played football that doesn't have an injury history? Bryce Young has missed one start in his career at Alabama. And the guy many are pushing at QB, including @CloakNNNdagger, is currently rehabbing an ACL tear.

But hey, I like irony.
Gotta love the double standard around this place. Lol
Young will be in someone’s camp ready to go.
While Hooker probably won’t be ready to go until next season.

Oh let’s draft Richardson, a player who only started 13 games in his collegiate career.

I remember a few people on here not wanting Mills because of the amount of games he played in college.
 
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Jaren Handy Auburn 256 lbs

Jamar Watson Kentucky 241 lbs

Matthew Butler Tennessee 297lbs

Tre Williams Missouri 253 lbs

Trajan Jeffcoat Missouri 274 lbs

Chantz Williams Miami 255 lbs

Soloman Zubairu Mercer 255 lbs

Gervon Dexter Florida 312 lbs

Brenton Cox Florida 250 lbs

Josh Carr Southern Miss 240 lbs

Hayes Maples Southern Miss 228 lbs

Chance Campbell Mississippi 232 lbs

Sam Williams Mississippi 261 lbs

Cedric Johnson Mississippi 265 lbs

Leon O'Neal Texas A&M 205 lbs

Tyree Johnson 2X Texas A&M 241 lbs

Michael Clemons Texas A&M 270 lbs

Aaron Brule Mississippi St. 220 lbs

Roman Harrison Tennessee 244 lbs

Byron Young Tennessee 245 lbs

Damone Clark LSU 240 lbs

Neil Farrell LSU 325 lbs

Mike Jones LSU 230 lbs

Cameron Lewis LSU 195 lbs

Chris Ojoh New Mexico St. 220 lbs

Simeon Blair Arkansas 209 lbs

Hayden Henry Arkansas 225 lbs

Zach Williams Arkansas 245 lbs

Eric Gregory Arkansas 302 lbs

Colby Wooden Auburn 284 lbs

Derrick Hall 3X Auburn 256 lbs

Marcus Harris Auburn 294 lbs

TD Moultry Auburn 254 lbs

Smoke Monday Auburn 199 lbs

Daniel Grzesiak Utah State 245 lbs

Darrian Beavers Cincinnati 255 lbs

Wilson Huber Cincinnati 250 lbs

Channing Tindale Georgia 230 lbs

Travon Walker Georgia 275 lbs

Robert Beal Georgia 249 lbs

Nolan Smith Georgia 236 lbs

Jaylan Ford Texas 238 lbs

Ovie Oghoufo Texas 242 lbs

Lu Tillery UL Monroe 173 lbs

Drew Sanders Arkansas 232 lbs

Omari Thomas Tennessee 320 lbs

Nathaniel Watson 2X Mississippi St. 240 lbs

Randy Charlton Mississippi St. 270 lbs

BJ Ojalari LSU 250 lbs

Harold Perkins LSU 220 lbs

Otis Reese Mississippi 225 lbs

Isheem Young Mississippi 215 lbs + Tavious Robinson Mississippi 265 lbs = 480 total lbs

JJ Pegues Mississippi 315 lbs

Kory Chapman Austin Peay 185 lbs

Hosea Knifeley Austin Peay 229 lbs

Demetries Ford Austin Peay 170 lbs

VJ Payne Kansas St. 192 lbs

Daniel Green Kansas St. 242 lbs


No, that's not a Big Board. It's list of players who have sacked Bryce Young. Doesn't include those that hit Bryce Young after release of the pass. Or those that tackled Young while running the football. Just sacks.

You'll see players of every body type, 300+ lbers to little DBs. Just like the NFL has. I can prove that. Because about 30 players on this list either have played in the NFL, or will next season.
I count maybe 8 from that list who would be considered large or close to 300 pounds. Shows Young is able to evade larger and slower players for the most part. It's the smaller, quicker, more athletic players who can get to him.
 
I'm just starting to get interested in the Texans again after basically taking the last two years off. I'll lose all interest again if they trade valuable picks to trade up from 2 to 1. There is no one worth doing that for in this draft.

Larry in Stafford says this GM won't do that. He was at least an enabler of Lovie getting his way and drafting Stingley last year.

So far, winning that last game of the season last year hasn't cost the Texans anything. I hope it stays that way. But I'm not optimistic. As long as the McNair's are part of the equation, there's a chance they do something insanely stupid...like trading away a whole bunch of picks to draft a 5'9'' quarterback or one that threw 3,000 picks in 24 games.
 
People talking about who might want to trade up to draft Anderson at 2, is he not a player who could immediately transform our D? The big thing last year was the lack of pass rush, the LB corps was poor, Harris/FA/rookie a little later can make that all look better, the DBs aren’t a huge priority, you probably want a S alongside Pitre and can do that in FA, that leaves the DL where the overall rotation seems passable, but we don’t have the Edge you need, Jerry Hughes gives just enough threat that the rookie isn’t going to be the sole focus.
On O convincing Cooks to stick at it under Ryan’s would help, 4 starters we can roll with on OL, and plenty of decent C’s available in FA, TE or RB on day 1 would be a luxury pick, so aside from if the QB available at 2 really moves the needle for Slowick, then why not take the best defender in the draft when he drops in your lap?
 
No I had recently seen leaked predictions which they all are that the Colts not Texans would trade CHicago over them for #1 pick if they wanted a QB. imho as to the the Texans they should stay put in the 1st round. I was just stating in that scenario that the Young vs Stroud selection at #2 would be void because one has already been taken out of the choice.
How the hell does one “leak predictions?” A prediction is a guess. Why would anyone take a prediction or thought seriously? Now, leaked information, that’s different! Until I see someone credible leak inside info with Cal or Nick saying they’re trading up, I call bs.
 
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How the hell does one “leak predictions.” A prediction is a guess. Why would anyone take a prediction or thought seriously? Now, leaked information, that’s different! Until I see someone leak inside info with Cal or Nick saying they’re reading up, I call bs.
Agree for a better word was to imply mock draft predictions and/or scenarios. But put any word or none before predictions but the point of the reply in the active thread was that the Texans should stay put and not give up any top draft picks. That's my opinion and mock prediction that I just leaked lol jk. Leaking information within teams is against the NFL rules no?
 
Agree for a better word was to imply mock draft predictions and/or scenarios. But put any word or none before predictions but the point of the reply in the active thread was that the Texans should stay put and not give up any top draft picks. That's my opinion and mock prediction that I just leaked lol jk. Leaking information within teams is against the NFL rules no?
Not WITHIN teams..............BETWEEN teams, yes.
 
NFL Draft 2023: Analyzing Bryce Young's historically slight frame and whether teams should be concerned
Should we care about Young's lack of size?
https://www.cbssports.com/writers/chris-trapasso/
By Chris Trapasso NFL Draft Analyst


In theory, when a quarterback is getting No. 1 overall hype, teams want all the boxes to be checked. Alabama quarterback Bryce Young won't be able to check all the boxes.

The 21-year-old is incredibly poised beyond his years. He throws with NFL-veteran-level anticipation and creates off structure as a runner and outside-the-pocket passer naturally as any quarterback prospect since Patrick Mahomes.

Young, too, will be unprecedentedly small for the position as a professional. Especially for a top-tier quarterback prospect. And that will undoubtedly scare teams considering the former Heisman winner within the first few selections of the 2023 NFL Draft. But does height and weight matter at the quarterback position in the NFL? With Young, the answer is complicated.

Until Young is measured at the outset of his combine experience inside Lucas Oil Stadium next week, we won't know exactly how small he is. But being listed at 6-foot, 194 pounds isn't an encouraging indicator for Young. In most scenarios, players are listed a touch bigger than their actual size. Here are how some notably small, high-caliber quarterback prospects measured in at their respective combines over the past 25 years.


HEIGHT WEIGHT
Kyler Murray, 20195-10 1/8207
Baker Mayfield, 20186-0 5/8215
Russell Wilson, 20125-11204
Drew Brees, 20016-0213
Ironically, it will send shockwaves through the NFL landscape if Young measures in under 6-0 and under 200 pounds but should come as no major surprise. Young looks that tiny on film.
As an evaluator, I don't grade specifically on size alone at the quarterback position. Size, directly, does not hinder or elevate a quarterback at the NFL level. It's what typically comes with size -- or lack thereof -- that does either of those things. Usually, large quarterbacks have stronger arms and the opposite is true with those who lack size.

In the case of Wilson, Mayfield and Murray, they were exceptions. Each had above-average NFL arms despite falling well short of normal starting quarterback size standards. If you simply watched the velocity of the ball out of their hands, or how effortless they ripped it downfield, you would've never guessed they were right around 6-0. Brees was an outlier because of his lightning-quick processing and surgical accuracy, one of the most striking combinations of that kind in NFL history.

The red-flaggy problem with Young is, he doesn't have a big arm and isn't ridiculously accurate with the football at all levels. That scares me. There's a difference between being short and being small. Young will likely be the smallest of the above group of quarterbacks and doesn't have a monster arm. Yes, he reads the field well and doesn't have ball-placement issues. He's nowhere near as accurate as Brees was, and while he ad-libs awesomely, he doesn't possess Murray's explosiveness or top-end speed.
There's no concrete evidence that suggests larger quarterbacks stay healthier than smaller ones, but a body like Young's feels more susceptible to injury on big hits from large defenders than a 6-4, 220-pound passer.

Size for Wilson, Mayfield and Murray didn't bother me. At all, really. They all were highly productive quarterbacks with strong arms -- by NFL standards -- and had standout quarterback traits. Young's creativity, accuracy and anticipation are outstanding. His arm strength is not special. His change-of-direction is, but he doesn't fly, and to be a competent scrambler in today's NFL, you have to be really, really fast.

There are signs that Young may ultimately have a long, successful NFL career. He could be another outlier. But measurables and traits are priorities during the draft process. And Young simply doesn't have classic measurable or out-of-this world traits, which make him one of the more polarizing possible No. 1 overall picks in a long time.
 
The red-flaggy problem with Young is, he doesn't have a big arm and isn't ridiculously accurate with the football at all levels. That scares me. There's a difference between being short and being small. Young will likely be the smallest of the above group of quarterbacks and doesn't have a monster arm. Yes, he reads the field well and doesn't have ball-placement issues. He's nowhere near as accurate as Brees was, and while he ad-libs awesomely, he doesn't possess Murray's explosiveness or top-end speed.
There's no concrete evidence that suggests larger quarterbacks stay healthier than smaller ones, but a body like Young's feels more susceptible to injury on big hits from large defenders than a 6-4, 220-pound passer.
Finally, people talking about the arm strength which I've been mentioning in here for some time. Young's arm strength and ability to drive the ball is maybe NFL average at best coming in, and that is as a shiny 22 year old rookie. That's fine if he were primarily a pocket QB with an uncanny ability to hit timing passes, which he can. But his ability to make plays off-structure is the thing that separates Young, and that will be hard to accomplish with his arm strength at the NFL level - at least to the degree he did in college. His skill set makes translation to the next level very iffy.

However, I must admit I'm intrigued by having a Doug Flutie-esque player (+) in his prime and in this generation, possibly on the team. He would be easy to root for.
 
Finally, people talking about the arm strength which I've been mentioning in here for some time. Young's arm strength and ability to drive the ball is maybe NFL average at best coming in, and that is as a shiny 22 year old rookie. That's fine if he were primarily a pocket QB with an uncanny ability to hit timing passes, which he can. But his ability to make plays off-structure is the thing that separates Young, and that will be hard to accomplish with his arm strength at the NFL level - at least to the degree he did in college. His skill set makes translation to the next level very iffy.

However, I must admit I'm intrigued by having a Doug Flutie-esque player (+) in his prime and in this generation, possibly on the team. He would be easy to root for.

People are finally starting to come around.

BTW, what did Flutie ever win?
 
People are finally starting to come around.

BTW, what did Flutie ever win?
He won a bunch of championships in the CFL, when those rosters actually had 1/2 dozen NFL caliber players each season or so. Flutie was pretty talented and probably should have re-emerged in the NFL well before age 35, but that kind of player was not in fashion in the 1990s. Flutie did go 21-9 as the starter for the Bills through 1998-2000, as supplanted Rob Johnson as the starter. He did pretty well considering he was past his prime... I think Young is more talented version of Flutie and in today's NFL, so he may do well. But then again, he may be just a guy like Flutie with a high floor and skills don't translate in becoming a Tier-1 QB, which is my greatest fear with Young. In other words, Young is 'mid' and we're saddled with that for an indefinite period of time.
 
He won a bunch of championships in the CFL, when those rosters actually had 1/2 dozen NFL caliber players each season or so. Flutie was pretty talented and probably should have re-emerged in the NFL well before age 35, but that kind of player was not in fashion in the 1990s. Flutie did go 21-9 as the starter for the Bills through 1998-2000, as supplanted Rob Johnson as the starter. He did pretty well considering he was past his prime... I think Young is more talented version of Flutie and in today's NFL, so he may do well. But then again, he may be just a guy like Flutie with a high floor and skills don't translate in becoming a Tier-1 QB, which is my greatest fear with Young. In other words, Young is 'mid' and we're saddled with that for an indefinite period of time.

Mid is the most likely outcome.

Also injury will be visiting him and availability is the greatest ability.
 
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