Fat Albert Haynesworth, Haloti Ngata, Vince Wilfork. The Packers had a couple of 330+ lb guys on their line, as did the Seahawks. There were plenty of big boy DTs then.
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CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
I appreciate that you picked out some nice examples, but there were 30 teams over the period Myers played, they were still the exceptions.
Thorn
Dirty Old Man
And not a one of those are former Texan players. I'm starting a Fire DeMeco thread!
Mangler
Toro de España
That’s one hell of a lineup. Let’s see if this group of guys can get us to the promised land!
Bill Lazor is the only significant name that I saw that had not been discussed or linked.
www.bleachernation.com
en.wikipedia.org
What We Think We Know About Bill Lazor, the Play-Caller: Prioritizing Rhythm and Tempo, Marrying Concepts, More - Bleacher Nation
Tempo. Rhythm. Reason. It's all been missing in the Bears' offense to this point. That's why Bill Lazor has been tabbed as the new play-caller.
www.bleachernation.com
Bill Lazor - Wikipedia
At least one of us gave examples.
TexansFan15
All Pro
Is that no longer a requirement now? Or did he end up getting vaccinated?
TexansFan15
All Pro
TheRealJoker
Hall of Fame
Bill Lazor is the only significant name that I saw that had not been discussed or linked.
What We Think We Know About Bill Lazor, the Play-Caller: Prioritizing Rhythm and Tempo, Marrying Concepts, More - Bleacher Nation
Tempo. Rhythm. Reason. It's all been missing in the Bears' offense to this point. That's why Bill Lazor has been tabbed as the new play-caller.
Bill Lazor - Wikipedia
Lazor overlapped with DeMeco on the Eagles when Chip Kelly was coach. Multiple stints as OC in NFL that were unsuccessful. Though the Bears stint it seemed when Nagy gave him playcalling end of 2020 the offense improved, but when Nagy took back playcalling in 2021 instead of continuing to let Lazor call plays the staff was fired end of season.
Interesting to note that Tannehill’s only seasons as a 4000 yard passer were the two seasons Lazor was OC.
QBs he had as OC:
Tannehill (Miami)
Dalton/Driskel (Cincy)
Foles/Dalton/Trubisky/Fields (Chicago)
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Out of 21 drafts the Texans have picked a TE in 10 of them.
They've picked a RB in 12 of them.
Can we change the joke now?
22 assistant coaches? Seems light?
Texansphan
Football connoisseur
Nah, it looks like they have the bases covered.
Where's the assistant head coach? The clock management coach? The assistant TE coach?
There could be more.
Texansphan
Football connoisseur
There could have been a buy 1 get 1 free deal on assistants, too. Ryans is thrifty like that.Sure.
I thought you were being facetious.
Speedy
Former Yeller Dweller
When they actually use the TEs then maybe.
Number19
Hall of Fame
Thanks
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
I'm trying to see the bright side to this hire. But as hyped as he might be, he has not been a truly successful offensive NFL coach.Bill Lazor is the only significant name that I saw that had not been discussed or linked.
What We Think We Know About Bill Lazor, the Play-Caller: Prioritizing Rhythm and Tempo, Marrying Concepts, More - Bleacher Nation
Tempo. Rhythm. Reason. It's all been missing in the Bears' offense to this point. That's why Bill Lazor has been tabbed as the new play-caller.
bright side o
Bill Lazor - Wikipedia
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
No longer mandated.
badboy
Hall of Fame
Agree. I went WUT?
TheMatrix31
Hall of Fame
A clock management specialist would be great actually.
TheRealJoker
Hall of Fame
Experienced play caller. Someone for Slowik to bounce ideas off of and gain different perspective game planning.
But like Day, the buck stops with Slowik, not the senior assistant.
justtxyank22
Practice Squad
Lazor was at one time considered the next big thing as an OC. Since then he's had multiple jobs as an OC, never with a good QB.
But those QBs were generally highly drafted and Lazor did not do much to make them better (or at so it seems)
Sign him up.
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
Bill Lazor has experience...........with questionable success.
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Bill Lazor
Coaching Record
History
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Bill Lazor
Coaching Record
| Years Coached | Record | Win % | Playoff record | Playoff win % |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 15 | 99-135-1 | 42.34% | 1-4 | 20.00% |
History
| Year | Position | Record | Playoff record |
|---|---|---|---|
| 2021 Chicago Bears | Offensive Coordinator | 6-11-0 | 0-0 |
| 2020 Chicago Bears | Offensive Coordinator | 8-8-0 | 0-1 |
| 2018 Cincinnati Bengals | Offensive Coordinator | 6-10-0 | 0-0 |
| 2017 Cincinnati Bengals | Quarterbacks Coach | 0-2-0 | 0-0 |
| 2017 Cincinnati Bengals | Interim Offensive Coordinator / Quarterbacks Coach | 7-7-0 | 0-0 |
| 2016 Cincinnati Bengals | Quarterbacks Coach | 6-9-1 | 0-0 |
| 2015 Miami Dolphins | Offensive Coordinator | 4-6-0 | 0-0 |
| 2014 Miami Dolphins | Offensive Coordinator | 8-8-0 | 0-0 |
| 2013 Philadelphia Eagles | Quarterbacks Coach | 10-6-0 | 0-1 |
| 2009 Seattle Seahawks | Quarterbacks Coach | 5-11-0 | 0-0 |
| 2008 Seattle Seahawks | Quarterbacks Coach | 4-12-0 | 0-0 |
| 2007 Washington Redskins | Quarterbacks Coach | 9-7-0 | 0-1 |
| 2006 Washington Redskins | Quarterbacks Coach | 5-11-0 | 0-0 |
| 2005 Washington Redskins | Offensive Assistant Coach | 10-6-0 | 1-1 |
| 2004 Washington Redskins | Offensive Assistant Coach | 6-10-0 | 0-0 |
| 2003 Atlanta Falcons | Offensive Quality Control Coach | 5-11-0 | 0-0 |
Not a lot of experience in this group.That’s one hell of a lineup. Let’s see if this group of guys can get us to the promised land!
Obviously he's a smart guy and not a lemming.
And one of those Florida thundershowers came thru to make the butt kicking worse. Wasn't that the game Mallett pulled his crap?
badboy
Hall of Fame
The A.S.S. coordinator may handle (pun) those.
Tannehill actually showed to be better than we thought outside of Miami. Just imagine how he would have developed had he gone to the right team with the right staff.
Bill Lazor has experience...........with questionable success.
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Bill Lazor
Coaching Record
History
Years Coached Record Win % Playoff record Playoff win % 15 99-135-1 42.34% 1-4 20.00%
Year Position Record Playoff record 2021 Chicago Bears Offensive Coordinator 6-11-0 0-0 2020 Chicago Bears Offensive Coordinator 8-8-0 0-1 2018 Cincinnati Bengals Offensive Coordinator 6-10-0 0-0 2017 Cincinnati Bengals Quarterbacks Coach 0-2-0 0-0 2017 Cincinnati Bengals Interim Offensive Coordinator / Quarterbacks Coach 7-7-0 0-0 2016 Cincinnati Bengals Quarterbacks Coach 6-9-1 0-0 2015 Miami Dolphins Offensive Coordinator 4-6-0 0-0 2014 Miami Dolphins Offensive Coordinator 8-8-0 0-0 2013 Philadelphia Eagles Quarterbacks Coach 10-6-0 0-1 2009 Seattle Seahawks Quarterbacks Coach 5-11-0 0-0 2008 Seattle Seahawks Quarterbacks Coach 4-12-0 0-0 2007 Washington Redskins Quarterbacks Coach 9-7-0 0-1 2006 Washington Redskins Quarterbacks Coach 5-11-0 0-0 2005 Washington Redskins Offensive Assistant Coach 10-6-0 1-1 2004 Washington Redskins Offensive Assistant Coach 6-10-0 0-0 2003 Atlanta Falcons Offensive Quality Control Coach 5-11-0 0-0
Makes me question that whole paradigm.
Like Demeco coaching behind Salah... how would Vance Joseph look if he was in that circumstance?
Or coordinators under Ried, or Belichick, how much of that is really "their" success?
Coordinators under questionable coaches with questionable circumstances, how much "questionable" are they responsible for?
I think it's really hard for people from our perspective to know how good an assistant coach is/ isn't if we haven't talked to him or any of the people he's coached.
badboy
Hall of Fame
That should be the defensive coordinator's job as he will be doing nothing else game time.
William V. Lazor (born June 14, 1972) is an American football coach who is the senior offensive assistant for the Houston Texans of the National Football League (NFL). Lazor has previously served as the quarterbacks coach for the Washington Commanders, Seattle Seahawks, and Philadelphia Eagles. He is also the former offensive coordinator of the Miami Dolphins, Cincinnati Bengals, and Chicago Bears. He played college football as a quarterback for Cornell University from 1991 to 1993.
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This is Lazor's wiki page, an Ivy leaguer, Cornell.
Anyway we've got coaches with QB experience out of their wah-zoos on this staff.
TheRealJoker
Hall of Fame
There’s a reason everyone poaches Lil Shanny and Mcvay’s coaching staffs when it comes hiring time.
But is it a good reason? How have they done so far?
Texansphan
Football connoisseur
Agree! I had this exact same conversation with a co-worker. When an OC is working for an offensive minded HC, how do you truly evaluate that OC? Excluding the Chiefs with Bienemy and Reid. It seems the public perception is driven by the media and fans who seem to give total credit to the OC for developing the QB and running a successful offense.
For example. Look at the last hiring cycle. Due to the Eagles' success, Shane Steichen became a hot HC candidate. He gets credit for Jalen Hurts' development and that explosive offense. However, if you look at Nick Siriani's background, he's been part of successful offenses with the Colts, Chargers and even with the Chiefs and Matt Cassel. So, how can any outsider separate Steichen from Siriani's influence? I guess it's a leap of faith you have to take when hiring these young HCs.
Mangler
Toro de España
I think I remember Brian Hoyer playing the entire game, I’m not 100% sure though. I remember Dolphin fans asking me why Obrien and Romeo were still employed after halftime. To make matters worse, fans kept bringing up the Texans blowout loss to the Falcons from the previous 2-3 weeks. Needles to say, O’Brien was NOT my favorite guy in 2015.
xtruroyaltyx
Hall of Fame
He has a cool name.
If it makes you feel any better.... he isn't my favorite guy today.
Although mostly Im indifferent in my anger today and moved on... but if they talked about bringing anyone back.... his name would instantly result in me sayin "I quit!...no more."
KoolAid Sipper
AFCEVET
The hope is always that these hot candidates' experience/exposure from being around successful coaches/players/organizations translates into their own success as a HC. The only way to find out is to give them a chance. Sometimes you get a McVay and other times you get a McDaniel. And if you're really lucky you get Legendary
leebigeztx
Keep it Movin!
Zac Taylor never called plays either fwiw. Actually, none of those guys under Shanny or McVeigh ever called plays.
leebigeztx
Keep it Movin!
Britt is done. He was done last year.
TheMatrix31
Hall of Fame
Better than Belichick coaches.
TheRealJoker
Hall of Fame
One thing worth noting with Ryans’ staff:
11 coaches for offense.
7 coaches for defense.
2 for special teams.
I’m not sure what it typically looks like around the league but it appears that Slowik will have plenty of help coaching the offense.
And of course DeMeco will be heavily involved in the defense as the 8th coach on that side of the ball. Though i’d want him focused on being an HC and not necessarily be the defacto DC.
11 coaches for offense.
7 coaches for defense.
2 for special teams.
I’m not sure what it typically looks like around the league but it appears that Slowik will have plenty of help coaching the offense.
And of course DeMeco will be heavily involved in the defense as the 8th coach on that side of the ball. Though i’d want him focused on being an HC and not necessarily be the defacto DC.
So that's where the bar is?
TheRealJoker
Hall of Fame
Source: University of Miami defensive ends coach Rod Wright joining Texans coaching staff
University of Miami defensive ends coach Rod Wright, a Houston native, is joining the Texans’ defensive coaching staff, according to a league source.
www.click2houston.com