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Welcome Home, DeMeco Ryans

OptimisticTexan said:
Nick was far more involved in the hiring of Ryans. Nick and DeMeco appear to be a solid team with a common vision on how they’re going to make the Texans a much better team going forward. Some on this board just saw their agenda get flushed down the crapper and don’t like it all. Makes you wonder as to who they’re really rooting for….maybe it’s themselves.
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This team is still crap since Nick inherited a 4-12 team.

30th in scoring, 31st in yards.
27th in points allowed, 30th in yards allowed.

All of this was going on under Caserio's watch.

There has to be accountability.

Rick Smith, in his second year found a Duane Brown with 26th pick.
Slaton, at 89 (which is a late third), ended his rookie year with 1,657 total yards and 10 TDs.
He was able to trade for or found FAs like Schaub, Vonta Leach, Chris Myers (on the cheap), Briesel, K Walter (60 catches and 922 total yards), Andre Davis (3 return TDs, 30 plus yards average).

And this doesn't even count the 2006 draft as it was Casserly's.

How does Caserio's early record compare to that.

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All that said, I hope Caserio grows as a GM with a more stable coaching situation.
For everyone's sake.
I'm tired of all this losing.
 
76Texan said:
This team is still crap since Nick inherited a 4-12 team.

30th in scoring, 31st in yards.
27th in points allowed, 30th in yards allowed.

All of this was going on under Caserio's watch.

There has to be accountability.
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You forgot to mention (rather self-serving) that he took over a team that the previous coach dismantled before being fired, who also overpaid and traded away serveral years of draft capital for a few players that werent worth the contracts they got, signed a few others (overpaid!) to massive contracts that wrecked our salary cap, and oh yeah, our all-world QB refused to play because he wanted out of Houston because he was a sick @ucking pervert who's world was about to explode!
Yeah, that was convenient how you left that part out.
 
wildroot said:
You forgot to mention (rather self-serving) that he took over a team that the previous coach dismantled before being fired, who also overpaid and traded away serveral years of draft capital for a few players that werent worth the contracts they got, signed a few others (overpaid!) to massive contracts that wrecked our salary cap, and oh yeah, our all-world QB refused to play because he wanted out of Houston because he was a sick @ucking pervert who's world was about to explode!
Yeah, that was convenient how you left that part out.
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So was Rick Smith's situation.
He came in after a 2-14 season when the Texans were also in cap hell.
That team was almost remade from scratch just the same.
Everybody, except Bob McNair knew that Carr is not the guy.
 
76Texan said:
This team is still crap since Nick inherited a 4-12 team.

30th in scoring, 31st in yards.
27th in points allowed, 30th in yards allowed.

All of this was going on under Caserio's watch.

There has to be accountability.

Rick Smith, in his second year found a Duane Brown with 26th pick.
Slaton, at 89 (which is a late third), ended his rookie year with 1,657 total yards and 10 TDs.
He was able to trade for or found FAs like Schaub, Vonta Leach, Chris Myers (on the cheap), Briesel, K Walter (60 catches and 922 total yards), Andre Davis (3 return TDs, 30 plus yards average).

And this doesn't even count the 2006 draft as it was Casserly's.

How does Caserio's early record compare to that.

...

All that said, I hope Caserio grows as a GM with a more stable coaching situation.
For everyone's sake.
I'm tired of all this losing.
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I'm not a big fan of Caserio. That said, he did enter an organization that was turned upside down by O'Brien and Easterby. The Texans record is about what I thought it would be over the last two years. I actually thought they would have gone winless in 2021.

I expect a winning record in 2023, or very close to it. This is going to be a highly competitive and energetic team. Because that's who DeMeco is.
 
banned1976 said:
I'm not a big fan of Caserio. That said, he did enter an organization that was turned upside down by O'Brien and Easterby. The Texans record is about what I thought it would be over the last two years. I actually thought they would have gone winless in 2021.

I expect a winning record in 2023, or very close to it. This is going to be a highly competitive and energetic team. Because that's who DeMeco is.
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See my new post just above yours.
 
76Texan said:
So was Rick Smith's situation.
He came in after a 2-14 season when the Texans were also in cap hell.
That team was almost remade from scratch just the same.
Everybody, except Bob McNair knew that Carr is not the guy.
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I wasn't comparing NC to RS, just stating some facts you neglected to mention in your tear-down of NC.
 
76Texan said:
But I was comparing them.
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I know you were, you didn't tell the whole story though.
This team was being openly ridiculed on TV and Radio for the trades OB made and the signings he and Easterby made, and no 1st round draft picks for his first two drafts, and one of those not picking till the 3rd round. It was a know fact that whoever was hired as GM was walking into a blazing dumpster fire, and then the Watson thing happened.
Talk to 1000 GMs, 100% of them would have rather come in when RS did as opposed to what NC walked into. I can't imagine a rookie GM having to walk into that situation, and he stuck it out.
But don't try to compare the two as anything close to equal.
 
wildroot said:
I know you were, you didn't tell the whole story though.
This team was being openly ridiculed on TV and Radio for the trades OB made and the signings he and Easterby made, and no 1st round draft picks for his first two drafts, and one of those not picking till the 3rd round. It was a know fact that whoever was hired as GM was walking into a blazing dumpster fire, and then the Watson thing happened.
Talk to 1000 GMs, 100% of them would have rather come in when RS did as opposed to what NC walked into. I can't imagine a rookie GM having to walk into that situation, and he stuck it out.
But don't try to compare the two as anything close to equal.
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Not to mention that Casserly and Kubiak made the 2006 draft that built that team before RS ever stepped foot in the building. 76Texan is always tailoring his memories to fit his agenda, truth be damned
 
76Texan said:
Hey, don't count us out.

Co-signed,
Russell Wilson and Doug Flutie.
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Texansballer74 said:
Says who? When Wilson, Murray, and a few others played in the NFL and has won.
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When someone says win in the NFL to me that counts the Super Bowl. To me that’s what the Texans are playing for.

Murray hasn’t even won a game in the playoffs. That’s isn’t winning in the NFL. Flutie didn’t win a Super Bowl.

Wilson is the lone exception to rule. Just because he did it once doesn’t mean to let every 5’10” qb have a chance thinking lightning can strike twice.
 
Who are the players/coaches DeMeco Ryans will mostlikely try to bring to Houston?

There’s always some horse trading involved along the lines of, I’ll let you take this guy who’s under contract, but you can’t take this one. That’s happening right now, I’m told. I’ve heard that Ryans is interested in passing game coordinator Bobby Slowik as well as defensive quality control coaches Andrew Hayes-Stoker and Stephen Adegoke. I also know that Ryans has leaned on safeties coach Daniel Bullocks, his eyes in the coaches’ booth on game days, in recent seasons. A player he’d probably like is discussed below.

If Slowik goes with Ryans, do you see Shanahan potentially looking outside for some help on the offensive side of the coaching staff? The cupboard seems to be getting a bit bare after all the folks that have left lately.

Agree. It would be the third straight season a former assistant has pilfered his coaching staff, which inevitably takes a toll. If that happened, my guess is that assistant quarterbacks coach Klay Kubiak or tight ends coach Brian Fleury would get a more prominent role. Those seem to be the next up-and-comers on Shanahan’s staff. The offensive quality control coaches this past season were Asauni Rufous and Deuce Schwartz, who also could rise up a notch.

Will Kris Kocurek become the 49ers’ DC? Does he even want to be the DC? It seems like he loves what he does now.

I’ve heard, pretty consistently, that he doesn’t want to be a coordinator. Some people are blessed with knowing exactly what they want to do in life, and — oh my goodness! — Kocurek seems to have found his life’s passion. Kocurek coaches the defensive line like Mariah Carey hits a high note.

Do you think the position versatility that Jimmie Ward has shown this year by playing well at nickel has helped or hindered his value to other teams in free agency? I suspect he would have preferred another season excelling at safety.

I think Ward only helped himself. He was one of the team’s top two or three defenders in each of the last two games, which were being closely watched by the entire league. I’m sure Ryans would love to bring him to Houston and pair him with rising star Jalen Pitre.
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49ers mailbag: Who's QB1 this summer? Who is DeMeco Ryans taking to Houston?

Among this week's questions: Where exactly can the 49ers improve in 2023 and which free-agent pass rusher best fits their needs?
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banned1976 said:
I would argue with you but I'm looking forward not backwards. This is a thread about DeMeco and I'm more excited now than I was before he was hired. I think he was the exact right hire at the right time.
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How many really good and short QB (under 6') have started in the NFL vs the number of taller guys?

Among them, there were at least 3 guys at 6' and at least 4 guys at 6'1.

If we practice your "percentage strategy"; we should rule out any QB above 6'1
 
Texan Asylum said:
Dre and Cushing left the door open…makes this happen Mr Ryans!
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Really what has changed since Ryans has been hired other than a bunch of ex Texans who've never won a thing being happy that Ryans is the hire. I like the Ryans hire, but I'm in the wait and see mode and hoping a rookie HC can quickly learn on the job. The way the media is fawning over Ryans is laughable. Guys like Branham are now saying they would be OK with the Texans passing on a QB at 1-2 after spending the better part of 3 months fawning over Young a 1-1 then 1-2. Why? because Ryans was the hire. LMAO
 
badboy said:
why can't they protect a QB?
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Anything I said before hiring DeMeco Ryans cannot be held against me. lol

Not gonna' lie, I'm all-in with 59 after watching his press conference and various interviews. He feels like the real deal.

I think the only thing that can stop him is the organization behind him, and I'm going to hope/believe that they are sincere about their rebuild.

If DeMeco chose the Texans over other options, I'm buying in. I'm burned out of the negative Texans stuff since 51-7.

I'm looking ahead. :texflag:

steelbtexan said:
Really what has changed since Ryans has been hired other than a bunch of ex Texans who've never won a thing being happy that Ryans is the hire. I like the Ryans hire, but I'm in the wait and see mode and hoping a rookie HC can quickly learn on the job. The way the media is fawning over Ryans is laughable. Guys like Branham are now saying they would be OK with the Texans passing on a QB at 1-2 after spending the better part of 3 months fawning over Young a 1-1 then 1-2. Why? because Ryans was the hire. LMAO
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I completely understand where you are coming from. We've been chatting about it here for years.

But, I'm choosing a new perspective for DeMeco. For instance, if he believes in a QB, even a tiny one, then I'm going to trust his instincts and judgement.

Seriously, I can't look at the negative anymore or I'll just walk away as a fan. So my attitude is to welcome 59 and hope that this really is the beginning of a new era.

If they prove otherwise down the road, we'll cross that bridge when we get to it. Until then, I'll enjoy the ride for a change. lol
 
wildroot said:
You forgot to mention (rather self-serving) that he took over a team that the previous coach dismantled before being fired, who also overpaid and traded away serveral years of draft capital for a few players that werent worth the contracts they got, signed a few others (overpaid!) to massive contracts that wrecked our salary cap, and oh yeah, our all-world QB refused to play because he wanted out of Houston because he was a sick @ucking pervert who's world was about to explode!
Yeah, that was convenient how you left that part out.
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This is why I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. The situation he adopted (major cap issues, little talent on the roster, little draft capital, the continuing specter of the Easter bunny) was going to take a few years to clear out before you could start rebuilding.

Most people agree we've got the right coach now, we've got cap space, and we've got a bounty of picks. There's no excuses from this point forward.
 
The only insight I’ve been able to glean about what Ryans wants in a QB, is the interview with the NFL Network, in which was asked about what he desires for a QB, and his answer was “look at the 2 that are in the Super Bowl. I want somebody that will UNLOCK the defense. Somebody who is a dual threat, not a statue. Statues are basically 11 on 10. Dual threats make it 11 on 11.” I’m paraphrasing. (so Davis Mills, see ya)

So, the question is, how does DeMeco view Young and Stroud? I’m sure he’s considering it from a defensive prospective, which to me is a plus. If this has been banged around somewhere else, fine whatever.
 
steelbtexan said:
Really what has changed since Ryans has been hired other than a bunch of ex Texans who've never won a thing being happy that Ryans is the hire. I like the Ryans hire, but I'm in the wait and see mode and hoping a rookie HC can quickly learn on the job. The way the media is fawning over Ryans is laughable. Guys like Branham are now saying they would be OK with the Texans passing on a QB at 1-2 after spending the better part of 3 months fawning over Young a 1-1 then 1-2. Why? because Ryans was the hire. LMAO
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Double Barrel said:
Anything I said before hiring DeMeco Ryans cannot be held against me. lol

Not gonna' lie, I'm all-in with 59 after watching his press conference and various interviews. He feels like the real deal.

I think the only thing that can stop him is the organization behind him, and I'm going to hope/believe that they are sincere about their rebuild.

If DeMeco chose the Texans over other options, I'm buying in. I'm burned out of the negative Texans stuff since 51-7.

I'm looking ahead. :texflag:



I completely understand where you are coming from. We've been chatting about it here for years.

But, I'm choosing a new perspective for DeMeco. For instance, if he believes in a QB, even a tiny one, then I'm going to trust his instincts and judgement.

Seriously, I can't look at the negative anymore or I'll just walk away as a fan. So my attitude is to welcome 59 and hope that this really is the beginning of a new era.

If they prove otherwise down the road, we'll cross that bridge when we get to it. Until then, I'll enjoy the ride for a change. lol
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Honestly, DB said it better than I could’ve…besides, Brian and Andre were both absolute beasts at their respective positions, you cannot help but think that they each would be an asset to add the the team in any capacity.

Just my thoughts on the matter anyhoo.
 
Marcus said:
The only insight I’ve been able to glean about what Ryans wants in a QB, is the interview with the NFL Network, in which was asked about what he desires for a QB, and his answer was “look at the 2 that are in the Super Bowl. I want somebody that will UNLOCK the defense. Somebody who is a dual threat, not a statue. Statues are basically 11 on 10. Dual threats make it 11 on 11.” I’m paraphrasing. (so Davis Mills, see ya)

So, the question is, how does DeMeco view Young and Stroud? I’m sure he’s considering it from a defensive prospective, which to me is a plus. If this has been banged around somewhere else, fine whatever.
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Maybe they're eyeing Richardson at 1.12? Or later?
 
TexansBull said:
When someone says win in the NFL to me that counts the Super Bowl. To me that’s what the Texans are playing for.

Murray hasn’t even won a game in the playoffs. That’s isn’t winning in the NFL. Flutie didn’t win a Super Bowl.

Wilson is the lone exception to rule. Just because he did it once doesn’t mean to let every 5’10” qb have a chance thinking lightning can strike twice.
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Drew Breezy was considered too short. It was always said he couldn’t see over the line of scrimmage. And guess what he was successful.
And I see win I’m talking about despite there size, they were able to win games.
 
Marcus said:
The only insight I’ve been able to glean about what Ryans wants in a QB, is the interview with the NFL Network, in which was asked about what he desires for a QB, and his answer was “look at the 2 that are in the Super Bowl. I want somebody that will UNLOCK the defense. Somebody who is a dual threat, not a statue. Statues are basically 11 on 10. Dual threats make it 11 on 11.” I’m paraphrasing. (so Davis Mills, see ya)

So, the question is, how does DeMeco view Young and Stroud? I’m sure he’s considering it from a defensive prospective, which to me is a plus. If this has been banged around somewhere else, fine whatever.
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I dont see Young/Stround being the guy to unlock a defense. Levis is the kinda guy he's describing.
 
All this short quarterback talk.. is Young really 6 foot? I think I read somewhere that it was bs and he was more like 5’11”. If he is 6 foot then i think he will be ok as long as he gets at least a year before he starts. 6 foot is good enough company for me.

A lot of the dual threat QBs dont last long especially if they are reliant on their legs too much. Those that coached Kyler Murray did him a huge disservice by not enriching(i dont know, best word i can think of) his passing game. Meanwhile, Russell Wilson had the coaching that kept him relevant as well as Lamar Jackson. Legs are nice to be able to use, but it should be an extra. So if we do draft Young, i hope the team develops him to be elite with his arm and still have that ability to beat you with his legs.
 
Texansballer74 said:
Drew Breezy was considered too short. It was always said he couldn’t see over the line of scrimmage. And guess what he was successful.
And I see win I’m talking about despite there size, they were able to win games.
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Brees is 2-3 inches taller than Young. Not only that, Young only weighs 185 LBS.
 
Robinson was terrible on the TD pass.

Not very good awareness. of where the ball WR is.
 
Double Barrel said:
Anything I said before hiring DeMeco Ryans cannot be held against me. lol

Not gonna' lie, I'm all-in with 59 after watching his press conference and various interviews. He feels like the real deal.

I think the only thing that can stop him is the organization behind him, and I'm going to hope/believe that they are sincere about their rebuild.

If DeMeco chose the Texans over other options, I'm buying in. I'm burned out of the negative Texans stuff since 51-7.

I'm looking ahead. :texflag:



I completely understand where you are coming from. We've been chatting about it here for years.

But, I'm choosing a new perspective for DeMeco. For instance, if he believes in a QB, even a tiny one, then I'm going to trust his instincts and judgement.

Seriously, I can't look at the negative anymore or I'll just walk away as a fan. So my attitude is to welcome 59 and hope that this really is the beginning of a new era.

If they prove otherwise down the road, we'll cross that bridge when we get to it. Until then, I'll enjoy the ride for a change. lol
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Sounds like the mentality of a fan. I like it. We don’t get enough of that around here. Even though that’s what we are. Go Texans!
 
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Texansballer74 said:
Drew Breezy was considered too short. It was always said he couldn’t see over the line of scrimmage. And guess what he was successful.
And I see win I’m talking about despite there size, they were able to win games.
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The original QB height in question was QBs under 6 foot. Brees is 6 foot from my recollection. So Brees is outside of the conversation for comparison.
 
Didn’t science people disprove ‘big-boned’ and discover bone relatively the same thickness as it is for those of the same gender and age? So frame is determined by muscle mass, age, and gender. A couple years on the Cushing supplemental diet and hard work in the gym should get him up to par. Ive seen people on that supplemental diet, even their head gets bigger. No lie.
 
michaelm said:
Maybe they're eyeing Richardson at 1.12? Or later?
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If they can get Brian Johnson as OC whatever QB they have will be set up for success. More important than the QB is getting the offensive coaching hires right. Johnson has elevated every QB he’s had the opportunity to coach. Hopefully Steichen gets passed over on the last two HC jobs and the Texans have an opportunity to bring him in. My #1 pick for OC.
 
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