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Bryce Young vs CJ Stroud
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How is just asking a question in a discussion forum 'gotta be right' exactly?
Would you like to maybe have the stones to answer the question..
I doubt it of course, but just curious..
badboy
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I read an article earlier today stating the odds are Ohio state will play Georgia. I will try to find it and post the link
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ESPN computer predicts Ohio State, not Michigan, will play for CFP national title
The ESPN Football Power Index is one of the most prominent college football prediction computer models out there, but there are times when its projections
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Mangler
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I answered the question several times. I stand by every word I posted.
Number19
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Odds? The current rankings have Ohio at #5, Alabama at #6, Tennessee at #7 and Penn State at #8. All Alabama has to do is win. Likewise Ohio. At some point they'll face off against each other. I wasn't addressing odds, merely addressing the possibility it could happen if Alabama is indeed chosen as one of the final eight.I read an article earlier today stating the odds are Ohio state will play Georgia. I will try to find it and post the link
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ESPN computer predicts Ohio State, not Michigan, will play for CFP national title
The ESPN Football Power Index is one of the most prominent college football prediction computer models out there, but there are times when its projections
No you really didn't though.
You said you didn't say it, you said that it's just an opinion, you said I 'didn't say or prove sh*t'.. but not once did you give any real articulation of what brought you to the opinion that CJ Stroud is entitled like you claimed in your previous quote..
Mangler
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Yet you couldn't find a single post of mine that read “CJ Stroud is entitled” because it doesn’t exist. Can’t give an articulation about something I didn’t claim. Again, I stand by every word I posted.
There's more than one way to word an opinion of something, and I pointed out very clearly how you stated it.. you wanna run from it now, no biggie it's cool..
Will OSU be one of the wildcard teams?
Number19
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Probability is high. In the rankings I saw, they were #5. The way I heard it on TV, the first four are set with the conference champions. The second four are selected by the commission with no restrictions on how they are chosen. There could be a two lose team in the playoff and Alabama is in the mix.
I worshiped Joe Kapp and the Vikings when I was 8 years old. I had this SI cover tacked on my bedroom wall.
But Joe Kapp wouldn't make it at QB in today's NFL. Probably a TE. Max Duggan's floating ducks won't make it, either.
Mr teX
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I worshiped Joe Kapp and the Vikings when I was 8 years old. I had this SI cover tacked on my bedroom wall.
But Joe Kapp wouldn't make it at QB in today's NFL. Probably a TE. Max Duggan's floating ducks won't make it, either.
i honestly don't know what people see in Duggan. Great story at TCU, but he's not an NFL starting qb...
Mr teX
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Stroud has the measureables...but Young has the poise...& i tend to lean poise when evaluating qbs. Something not talked about here is that drafting Young.....He already has repoire with Metchie...which would be an advantage in his development..albeit a small one...but any little bit helps.
cuppacoffee
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I worshiped Joe Kapp and the Vikings when I was 8 years old. I had this SI cover tacked on my bedroom wall.
But Joe Kapp wouldn't make it at QB in today's NFL. Probably a TE. Max Duggan's floating ducks won't make it, either.
I imagine we're in the minority of posters who remember Kapp.
Disagree whether Duggan could make it today. Looks solid to me.
Maybe he's not in the elite class, but would help in transforming from what is currently on our roster.
It appears to me that he has been well coached . Hopefully Pep would leave him alone.
Hope Caserio gives him a look.
Definitely don't want to spend a high pick on either of the two or three favorites mentioned on this site.
We need to spend our high picks on Linemen, get a qb later. Duggan should be available. (fingers crossed)
edit: took a run on pfn's mock draft site, Got Duggan in the seventh rd.
They're not too high on him.
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zshawn10
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his only downside to me is just his size; that's literally it. If he's a couple inches taller and has a few more pounds or so, he's going one, no question
Number19
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Who would anyone ever think someone 5'9" could play and star in the NBA, much less make the Hall of Fame.
It's not the size of the dog...
Mr teX
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Pounds can be added..his height..not so sure that should be a thing anymore…between, Brees, wilson and Murray its been shown that shorter qbs can thrive in the NFL if the system is viable…abd they’re dynamic enough.
If they do decide to pick Young, I sure hope they add him some weapons
Has there been any recent reports of Metchie's recovery?
NBA?
Reaching much if you are having to use another sport to justify picking Young.
Not directed at you, there are no true comparisons of 5'10 QB's that have been champions in the NFL. Drafting Young means you're literally asking him to do things that have never been done before. Is Young that guy? Probably not.
Number19
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Exactly what would be asked of Young that's never been asked before? To play football at his size and weight? There's always a first time.
Number19
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Sorry, don't know what attitude you are commenting on or what any of this has to do with Vegas. We are discussing whether a "smaller" qb can effectively play in the NFL?
I'd also remind you, Young would not be a first. The Redskins Eddie LeBaron was selected to four Pro Bowls and was only 5'7".
There's always a 1st time attitude, that's a guy I would like to see gambling and that's what the draft really is, a gamble.
You're a true optimist and I admire people like you.
Does anyone know who's the agent for Caleb Williams? Seems like an important thing to know if the Texans are passing on QB this year, but also passing on a certain agent's clients.
TexansBull
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I am being told I need to grow and get past the agent thing.
I don’t know if I could do that for Caleb Williams.
But everyone has a price so it is still up for negotiation.
TexansBull
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Seriously though - I think he is negotiating with a team of consultants from what I can tell from a Google search. The only names I can find is a marketing firm he works with and a Beats contract. Also a private equity real estate venture. Plus a mens fine grooming ownership deal.
It never says who is representing him. So I assume no one because we would know if there was.
True,
Good thing is I'm pretty sure DM won't be representing any honky's, so I'm good with Maye if Williams is represented by the racist DM/Avery team.
Who knows what happens to Maye from this point until the 2024 draft? Are you getting my point? You've already rejected acquiring any asset this year and cut in half potential assets for the following. It's a piss poor strategy to count on specific assets to be acquired that far in the future.
Nope, I just think Williams and Maye are franchise type QB's and with the assets Caserio has at his disposal combined with the fact that I think there's a very good chance that Caserio is going to have a top 2 pick next yr in addition to atleast one more 1st rd pick, it's a gamble I would much rather take rather than gamble on another overrated DM client. IMHO, Or a midget being the franchises future QB.
In fact I dont even think I would focus on skill position players other than the TE position. Draft the Edge/DT/IOL/TE positions early and often, because that's where the strength of the draft is. IMHO If you want a WR then take a guy like Andrei Iosivas in the 3rd/4th rd range. A big fast guy from Princeton who's pretty shifty. In no world am I spending 1-1 on a QB, which means that's exactly what Cal will make Caserio take at 1-1. I said the same thing when Carr was the pick over Peppers. History is going to repeat itself, which is sad. IMHO
Texian
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If you were drafted into the military and could type 80+ words a minute that would get you a desk job instead of a foxhole.
It's not like anyone that actually gets paid to do it would follow the advice of steelb when it came to football
They wouldn't be where they are if they had.
Example: What if Cal had listened to me and made Derrick play out his 5th yr option.
Do you think that the Texansare going to be one of the worst teams in the NFL next yr? I do, so I'm more than willing to take achance on getting one of the 2 top QB's in the 2024 NFL draft. In the meantime I would sign a vet QB like Jimmy G/Mike White/Winston to a3 yr deal as a bridge QB. Do you think Carr might become available this offseason and would you sign him to a 3 yr deal?
This iswhat aplan looks like, instead of drafting a midget or an overrated Ohio St. QB. If I'm betting I'm betting the midget will be the pick at 1-1. If so after looking at Caserio's past when he drafts QB's do you think the midget will be a Caserio pick or a Cal pick? I bet you can guess my answer, BTW, I was castigated when Iwas the only person who said the McNair's were profiteering hands on owners and used the Carr pick as proof of this.
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a unicorn... every blind squirrel...
They couldn't "force" him to play on a brand new contract when the ink was still wet. What makes you think they could make him play the 5th year?
Do you think Cal would have got 3 first round picks if DW4 was on his final year? When he didn't play because there were too many questions.
Heck, he'd have walked as an UDFA & the Texans would have got nothing.
I understand you don't care. That's a lesson for armchair GMs making decisions when they don't have any skin in the game.
For instance, I could argue the Texans should have hired Elliott Wolf a long time ago & assert the Texans would be better off because of it.
But to me, that sounds like a bad idea since no one has thought enough of Elliott Wolf in that time to give him a GM job.
No one.
He would have played or he could have sit out the season before I wo have given him the contract he signed and I said so before he signed the contract that Cal should make him play out the 5th year option.
So your last ni one line simply isn't true. There was a couple, starting with me. In fact OT and me suggested trading Derrick to the Chargers for the opportunity to pick Herbert and got castigated for our opinions which just happened to be correct.
BTW, another thing I'm calling before this draft. This is a great draft to fix the trenches and I hope Caserio follows the strength of the draft
He would have sat out. The Texans would have to franchise tag him
That line had nothing to do with trading Derrick. No one hired Elliot Wolf during that time
This ain't Madden. Just because you think it doesn't mean it would
1, Not if he refused to play his 5th year option.
2.I misunderstood
3.It could have happened and if it had number 1 would have been a moot point.
4. Cal got played by a bunch of dumbazzez which doesn't bode well for the future and your right this isn't FF.
I'm so glad you brought that up about Kapp & the Vikings because when my Chiefs went into NOLA for the SB way back in 1970 as 2 TD underdogs, wow was that ever sweet !I worshiped Joe Kapp and the Vikings when I was 8 years old. I had this SI cover tacked on my bedroom wall.
But Joe Kapp wouldn't make it at QB in today's NFL. Probably a TE. Max Duggan's floating ducks won't make it, either.
Remember the Vikings "brain trust' putting the undersized center Mike Tinglehoff against former Chiefs & Oilers NT Curley Culp, I dunno what were they thinking ? Curly was like 30 to 40 pounds bigger than little Mike and just beat him like a drum all day long.
And to seal the deal Dawson hit Otis Taylor with that cute little pass in the flat and Otis took it in for 6 to wrap up the game.
Yea I was and remain to this day a big Chiefs fan.
Please explain
Number19
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This
Centers weren't very big in the day. Most of the time, the Center went uncovered and their job was to get to the MLB on the 2nd level. The Chiefs turned that on its head and changed how defenses attacked the Center position. The Dolphins, Steelers, and the Bum Phillips' defenses in San Diego and Houston would put a defender right on the Center or in a gap.
BTW, it's Mick Tingelhoff. And he's a HOFer.
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