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Davis Mills getting no respect

sigh... that's not my argument.

I'm just saying Texian wasn't arguing Howard's talent. He was arguing Caserio's cap management

So cap management is what you're talking about?

There should be plenty of cap space available = good cap management.
 
Hurts who didn't play much as a rookie look light years better and they can run the ball. Siriani came in for a rebuild also and they've had picks too, but the fact Hurts looks awesome and an offense tailored to him. They stay in 11 personel and will still put that run game off the wco in your face. Meanwhile the Texans are no closer now than they were last year honestly. Mills is playing scared or shall I say not justifying risk vs reward to win games. That's Alex Smith 2.0. I would rather him go out balls against the wall and live with the outcome. Throwing flag routes to Burkhead isn't going to get you there.
 
sigh... that's not my argument.

I'm just saying Texian wasn't arguing Howard's talent. He was arguing Caserio's cap management
Bingo! If Caserby can screw up a $200MM salary cap then they can damn sure screw up a $300MM salary cap. Some here think there is a magic wand and with one wave, poof, Caserby is Jamie Dimon. Expecting that to be the case is a lot of wishful thinking and overdosing on the Kool-Aid. It doesn't work that way.

It does not matter how much money is in the salary cap, being fiscally irresponsible can screw up a $500 million salary cap as easily as it can screw up a $100 million salary cap. And if there is one thing we have learned from Caserby in the last 20 months, they know how to be fiscally irresponsible. From another perspective, the Texans starting LT and RT contracts expire after the 2023 season.

If you think just because the salary cap is going up on a massive scale and all of your problems will be solved you are likely to be disappointed. Every other team is getting the same cap increases and what you will likely find if you are dealing with the same management/ownership, you will have the same salary cap problems with a $400 million salary cap as you had with a $200 million salary cap. Instead of creating $57 million in dead money by restructuring 7 contracts, you create $120 million in dead money with the same 7 restructured contracts.

There is still a 53-man roster, so the puzzle hasn't changed. Monopoly is still Monopoly only the properties are now more expensive. So you get more money to start the game but the game hasn't changed.
 
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I just don't know how Mills can turn this around. Highly innacurate. He cant seem to capture momentum neither.
When David Shaw, Stanford HC was sitting at the NFL Draft table on the NFLN he was asked about Davis Mills. Shaw's response was that Davis Mills was somewhat accurate.
 
Did you guys notice DM is wearing one of those arm bands with the plays on it?

He didn’t wear one last year, as a rookie.

He’s learning this offense just like everyone else
Has nothing to do with him sailing throws like that. Dude is missing his throws badly. I’m not blaming for everything, on him. But wasn’t this suppose to be same philosophy he ran at Stanford?
 
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Bingo! If Caserby can screw up a $200MM salary cap then they can damn sure screw up a $300MM salary cap. Some here think there is a magic wand and with one wave, poof, Caserby is Jamie Dimon. Expecting that to be the case is a lot of wishful thinking and overdosing on the Kool-Aid. It doesn't work that way.

It does not matter how much money is in the salary cap, being fiscally irresponsible can screw up a $500 million salary cap as easily as it can screw up a $100 million salary cap. And if there is one thing we have learned from Caserby in the last 20 months, they know how to be fiscally irresponsible. From another perspective, the Texans starting LT and RT contracts expire after the 2023 season.

If you think just because the salary cap is going up on a massive scale and all of your problems will be solved you are likely to be disappointed. Every other team is getting the same cap increases and what you will likely find if you are dealing with the same management/ownership, you will have the same salary cap problems with a $400 million salary cap as you had with a $200 million salary cap. Instead of creating $57 million in dead money by restructuring 7 contracts, you create $120 million in dead money with the same 7 restructured contracts.

There is still a 53-man roster, so the puzzle hasn't changed. Monopoly is still Monopoly only the properties are now more expensive. So you get more money to start the game but the game hasn't changed.

Except there's 60 mil coming off of the books. More money will be saved when expensive guys are replaced by draft picks. BTW, I'm on board with moving Cooks at the deadline this yr and replacing him with Jaxson Smith Njigba along with another vet signed in FA.
 
When David Shaw, Stanford HC was sitting at the NFL Draft table on the NFLN he was asked about Davis Mills. Shaw's response was that Davis Mills was somewhat accurate.

Since when does a 65.5% completion percentage at Stanford and a 66.8% first year with the Texans get chalked up as somewhat accurate? Bear in mind those percentages were earned within 22 starts since HS.
 
It could be based upon what throws Mills is making. Maybe he's OK middle of the field, not so good outside the numbers? Or good throwing to the right side, struggles to the left, etc.
He was very accurate on deep throws and throws outside the numbers last year. He doesn't look anything like that guy through the first 2 games this year. Wonder what happened?
 
Has nothing to with his sailing throws like that. Dude is missing his throws badly. I’m not blaming for everything, on him. But wasn’t this suppose to be same philosophy he ran at Stanford?

I think learning the new system is causing him to play slower. Too much thinking & not being in the zone.

I don’t think he’s all of a sudden became inaccurate.

Then there’s the thing with his thumb. How long has that been an issue?

Again, I’m glad he seems to be making good decisions, mostly, at this point. I expect all that other stuff to get better as the season progresses. Hopefully he’ll get to that end of 2021 form in the next week or two.
 
Wonder what happened?
We still have a small sample size. I could pick more than 2 games from last season where Mills looked much worse than the initial 2 games of 2022. The biggest problem is that Mills 2021 was overrated by many here. He still can reach 2021 levels and possibly surpass. That doesn't mean we will know one way or the other if he's the guy going forward.
 
Has anyone looked at Mills' home/road splits?

Calling it night and day doesn't even really do it justice..

SplitValueGWLTCmpAttIncCmp%YdsTDIntRateSkYdsY/AAY/AA/GY/GAttYdsY/ATDA/GY/G2PMTDPtsFmbFLFFFRYdsTD
PlaceHome71601522186669.721725121109.6191127.918.8131.1246.411322.9101.64.6102100200
Road61501111766563.079394963.112945.343.4929.3156.57121.7101.22.000410200

SplitValueGWLTCmpAttIncCmp%YdsTDIntRateSkYdsY/AAY/AA/GY/GAttYdsY/ATDA/GY/GFmbFLFFFRYdsTD
PlaceHome100123371462.162402098.93186.497.5737.0240.02-1-0.5002.0-1.0110000
Road101019381950.001770063.23234.664.6638.0177.0210.5002.01.0200000

And yes, that even applies to his supposed strong finish to last season..

132021-12-12131423.052HOUSEAL 13-33*334967.353311093.22146.767.16284.0000000000081100%00%00%
142021-12-19141523.059HOU@JAXW 30-16*193063.332092192.2136.976.80122.0000000000059100%00%00%
152021-12-26151623.066HOULACW 41-29*212777.7825420130.6169.4110.891-1-1.0000000000068100%00%00%
162022-01-02161723.073HOU@SFOL 7-23*213265.631631175.43275.094.31144.0000010010067100%00%00%
172022-01-09171823.080HOUTENL 25-28*233369.7030130128.52129.1210.944123.0000000000057100%00%00%
 
We still have a small sample size. I could pick more than 2 games from last season where Mills looked much worse than the initial 2 games of 2022. The biggest problem is that Mills 2021 was overrated by many here. He still can reach 2021 levels and possibly surpass. That doesn't mean we will know one way or the other if he's the guy going forward.
A very fair post.
 
Since when does a 65.5% completion percentage at Stanford and a 66.8% first year with the Texans get chalked up as somewhat accurate? Bear in mind those percentages were earned within 22 starts since HS.
Why would david shaw his respected coach say that of his own QB?
 
Since when does a 65.5% completion percentage at Stanford and a 66.8% first year with the Texans get chalked up as somewhat accurate? Bear in mind those percentages were earned within 22 starts since HS.
Dink and Dunk will play Jeddi mind games on completion percentage. If you have a beef with "somewhat accurate" it is with the Stanford HC, not me.
 
Dink and Dunk will play Jeddi mind games on completion percentage. If you have a beef with "somewhat accurate" it is with the Stanford HC, not me.

"In high school we saw his athleticism, his accuracy, his arm strength, his leadership, all of the things you're looking for and you never know how that's going to develop in college," Shaw said. "What you're getting is a tough, smart, accurate, athletic guy that has command. He will master the offense as soon as possible. When you see him play, the play that you think a quaterback should make on the (NFL) level, he'll make it."


“The ability I think is obvious when you watch the film: arm strength, accuracy, athleticism, great at escaping, getting out of danger,” Shaw told Fox 26 [KRIV-TV]. “You wouldn’t necessarily call him fast, but you watch him he’s an athlete. He’s made moves in the backfield to get away from rushers, push up in the pocket, scrambling for first downs. Guy’s got all the intangibles: character, leadership, toughness.”

 
He won’t ever have it.
How long do they punish the other players on this team by keeping him as the starter
They made sure not to have a viable backup qb
Bullshit
 
With his level of experience he just ain't ready. Too much has to be exactly right for him to deliver good passes and this team is not talented enough to sustain that kind of play. If the Texans plan to keep moving forward with him then the coaching staff needs to call plays that maximize protections with routes he is good at delivering to.
 
i remember Allen at UH…he wasnt good then…remember seeing him in washington last year…still wasn’t good.
Man I’m talking about right now. Give someone else a shot. Season a wash so why not. Last time Mills was benched, it actually helped him out because he played better at the end.
 
Man I’m talking about right now. Give someone else a shot. Season a wash so why not. Last time Mills was benched, it actually helped him out because he played better at the end.

What’s the point in that if you think the season is a wash? May as well let Mills play out the string and let him lose the gig all on his own. B/c what im absolutely certain of is that Kyle Allen will not be in the running for the gig next year unless he comes in and absolutely kills it….but there’s absolutely no evidence to show that he’s gonna do that.
 
Season a wash so why not. Last time Mills was benched, it actually helped him out because he played better at the end.
Why not?

well, I’d want to see him play a few games at home.

he’ll be home against the Chargers (Bosa playing this time), then in the road against Jacksonville, the bye week, then on the road to Vegas.

Four of the first six on the road.

Then our only back to back home games Titans, Eagles.
 
With his level of experience he just ain't ready. Too much has to be exactly right for him to deliver good passes and this team is not talented enough to sustain that kind of play. If the Texans plan to keep moving forward with him then the coaching staff needs to call plays that maximize protections with routes he is good at delivering to.
IIRC 3rd Q Mills seemed to go into hurry up mode which was successful then didn't see it anymore. Perhaps Pep went back to ball control.
 
Aside from the assassination, how did you like the play Mrs. Lincoln?
I didn’t watch the game so I really don’t know what the numbers are saying. I like the completion percentage, I like the ypa. But don’t know the context. All I’m saying is he’s throwing a lot & deepish
 
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