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TIME TO RELEASE THE STORY BEHIND THE "MULUGHETA EFFECT" ON THE WATSON/TEXANS RELATIONSHIP..............AND MORE

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Dejaview said:
Help me out because this is so far out of my common sense range. First anyone knowing this info dwells in a very small circle so why would they leak something that could easily be traced back to them and even set them up with legal issues or being released from their position? Second why would they leak this to someone involved on a Texans MB and if they didn’t know he was posting here why would CnD expose his confidants to subject them to my first question? This is dangerous ground coming from my corporate experiences.
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I think finally the story can be told with no repercussions.

Watson gone.

Watson said Texans didn’t know about his massages.

It will be more interesting what happens at the next CBA.
 
Double Barrel said:
Yep. The media narrative for 14 months has been poor little Deshaun was promised by evil overlord Cal McNair that his voice would be heard. That's all poor little Deshaun wanted was to be heard.

The Texans have never released anything to refute it, so the Watson sycophants have continued to regurgitate this narrative to the point that it is now accepted as truth, despite the fact that it was never corroborated by either side and the first time it was ever addressed by Watson was last Friday during the Cleveland funeral home press conference.

There is always three sides to "truth", so I've been wary of the narrative all along. Watson pouting out just a few months after signing a $160 million contract without any sort of context has always been a puzzle that never made much sense. But I don't trust the Easterby-loving billionaires or the sketchy-private-life QB, so I've just been skeptical and jaded about all of it.
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Obviously the Texans had a vested interest in keeping the illusion from being revealed…. until they cashed in their chips and got their picks. Even to the point of looking like stooges (which frankly is more believable than some of the other things in this “tale”). Now that the deal is done and they are in the clear who cares what the message board scamps find out. From their perspective they want it out there and being talked about. Don’t much care if it can or can’t be proven.
 
Dejaview said:
First anyone knowing this info dwells in a very small circle so why would they leak something that could easily be traced back to them and even set them up with legal issues or being released from their position?
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I don't think this would have to be small circle kinda thing. Watson's team new what they were asking.

Dejaview said:
Second why would they leak this to someone involved on a Texans MB and if they didn’t know he was posting here why would CnD expose his confidants to subject them to my first question?
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Again, your first question would have to be true.

second... CnD didn't use to post like this. He would share his info with a select few. Those few would then throw it out on the MB & he'd eventually have to come out & say it came from him. You don't have to believe anything that was said.

I don't know why he's doing it this way now.

But as been stated. CnD is a long time, straight up, honest poster here. The powers that be (& I'm not talking lowly moderators like myself) respect him as a member.

You don't need to challenge him or call him out. Just take the information, put it away. If anything comes out publicly, remember what you read here & compare it to what's been revealed.
 

Browns send Case Keenum to Bills for 2022 7th-round pick; Cleveland signing Jacoby Brissett

The Browns are trading backup quarterback Case Keenum to the Bills for a 2022 seventh-round draft pick, Tom Pelissero reports. Cleveland has also agreed to terms with former Dolphins and Colts QB Jacoby Brissett.
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When I saw this the day after the trade my first thought was if Watson is gonna be suspended why roll with Jacoby over Case

Makes lot more sense now
 
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House of Pain said:
I understand that because this information is not verified, there should be some level of skepticism of any unverified report on this board or on the internet or media in general. Having said that, I have no reason to doubt that CnD's post is most likely, mostly true. Watson wanted to secure the bag (his big contract with NTC) first. Without this part of his plan, there is no leverage. I think he wanted out and sold this teammates, fans and the franchise itself, down the river after the Chiefs playoffs game for his own personal gain. He never cared about anyone but himself...not even his teammates. Which to me is crazy, because those guys literally sacrifice their bodies for you. I think he knew BoB couldn't get them over the top or be successful in big games BUT he knew he could manipulate BoB and get whatever he wants because BoB was arguably the worst GM in NFL history. Also, all of BoB's coaching flaws would be exposed if Watson wasn't covering them up with his sandlot style of play. Why throw BoB under the bus when you're so close to getting a big contract and have to negotiate with an unknown commodity? So he gave him repeated, unconditional votes of confidence, so he could get his contract. BoB keeps his job and his (Watson's) team steamrolled BoB in contract negotiations.

BoB gets fired and he can't manipulate the coach and GM anymore, so he makes crazy demands that he knows the ownership won't be on board with to get to where he wants to go: Miami. I think Watson and his team thought that Cal and the braintrust of the Texans would trade him or maybe they would fold to his demands? Maybe they thought this because Old Man McNair got in hot water over his "inmates" comment? Maybe they thought they could paint the Texans as a team that has an institutional racism issue because of their alleged history? This makes the Lovie Smith/Pep Hamilton hirings (and retaining them) make more sense. They needed some real football minds/coaches in the building to keep the wheels on and make some of the players buy in while they took out the trash. If CnD's version of events in true, imagine if the Watson camp leaked some of this stuff and they had some white, inexperienced HC running the team? They would have an absolute nightmare situation from an optics standpoint. Now, the Texans hold the cards because they have a respected, experienced black HC, and half of the 20 coaches listed on the coaching roster are black. Kinda hard to paint them that way, whether they are or they aren't.

I think CnD's storyline makes perfectly good sense, now knowing that Watson only cares about money and himself. The only thing that doesn't make any sense is the Tim Kelly being left on the staff. Maybe they hired Culley and just filled out a staff, kept TK on the staff because he was under contract and they knew wholesale changes were coming and didn't know if this was going to blowup into unprecedented nuclear situation. They couldn't move forward on the rebuild until Watson was officially gone.

Let's hope karma is a *****.

And @leebigeztx...have you considered that maybe they didn't want to tell you the truth because it opens them up to liability or can hurt their friends or their friends' careers? Maybe they couldn't tell you? I'm not saying they lied to you, but sometimes you can't tell someone the truth because it will have too much collateral damage? I do appreciate your input and I'm not saying you're lying or trying to make up a false narrative.

PS - It feels so gross to have to address the races of coaches, players and staff when it comes to building or maintaining a football team. It's relevant to this thread, but it's always cringe inducing. Should be a results based business. Ok, I'm off my soapbox.
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Im going to say this again and let it be. It was said Flores fired his agent and signed with athletes 1st, but nobody is reporting it. I asked the question stating that you're saying its nowhere in the universe we can find this information, but your birdie can? Now we know Jack and Nick has the same agent, but nobody except his birdie know the answer. So I reached out to the relationship that I have with Pat Kirwin. He responded with no, not true and began to tell me people are making up things and his relationship with Flores. I've fostered a pretty good relationship with Kirwin over the past 17 years. From sitting with him at Senior Bowl Practice to being with him during the training camp tour when they come to Houston with Sirius XM Radio. I'm there with the broadcast while they're meeting with coaches and such. So his credibility with me is 100.
 
Hervoyel said:
Obviously the Texans had a vested interest in keeping the illusion from being revealed…. until they cashed in their chips and got their picks. Even to the point of looking like stooges (which frankly is more believable than some of the other things in this “tale”). Now that the deal is done and they are in the clear who cares what the message board scamps find out. From their perspective they want it out there and being talked about. Don’t much care if it can or can’t be proven.
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Spot On

Good to see you back Herv.
 
Double Barrel said:
Yep. The media narrative for 14 months has been poor little Deshaun was promised by evil overlord Cal McNair that his voice would be heard. That's all poor little Deshaun wanted was to be heard.

The Texans have never released anything to refute it, so the Watson sycophants have continued to regurgitate this narrative to the point that it is now accepted as truth, despite the fact that it was never corroborated by either side and the first time it was ever addressed by Watson was last Friday during the Cleveland funeral home press conference.

There is always three sides to "truth", so I've been wary of the narrative all along. Watson pouting out just a few months after signing a $160 million contract without any sort of context has always been a puzzle that never made much sense. But I don't trust the Easterby-loving billionaires or the sketchy-private-life QB, so I've just been skeptical and jaded about all of it.
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I think that is the right way to look at this dysfunctional mess and be wary of all narratives because logically, some things just does not make any sense. Maybe this is step one in Easterby's image rehab. :kitten:
 
Boris said:
i recall posts that suggested Tim Kelly was re-signed specifically as an appeasement to DW4...unless TK is "passing", color me confused
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Some of the staff, particularly those who had pending contracts were not released at years end giving the team options.

Some in the media and many here did believe / make statements that the team kept Kelly to appease Watson but ... he never played a down and the coaching staff was put together by Caserio for Culley for the most part.

The ultimate decision on the staff was not made until Caserio hired Culley which is far downstream of any Watson / Mulugheta demands.

I think you could call both Kelly & Culley Caserio sacrificial hires: They missed out on all the top coaches early in the process dealing with so many other issues , Culley is hired as a last resort - Knowing they'd be bad some familiarity with the offense with Kelly in that position and its a $$$ saving move as well since he had that year on his contract. Why dump him and pay him & someone else to be just as bad or worse with the lack of talent?
 
steelbtexan said:
CnD isn't known for making stuff up.

He's as solid a member as there is on any message board I've been to when it comes to sharing accurate information. But I know I'm not going to change your mind. So I would ask you to look at Derrick's/Mulughetta's actions beginning with the day he signed his extension until the day he became a Brown and come to your own conclusions.
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This isn't just on @CloakNNNdagger

He came to me some time ago with this information asking me to verify it thru my sources.
 
Earl34 said:
I think that is the right way to look at this dysfunctional mess and be wary of all narratives because logically, some things just does not make any sense. Maybe this is step one in Easterby's image rehab. :kitten:
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lol He's still digging his own hole after watching his performance on those teenagers podcast. :worm:

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I'm with you man, nothing like a good trainwreck to keep us entertained.
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Yep. As always, stay entertained, my friend. :popcorn:
 
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leebigeztx said:
Im going to say this again and let it be. It was said Flores fired his agent and signed with athletes 1st, but nobody is reporting it. I asked the question stating that you're saying its nowhere in the universe we can find this information, but your birdie can? Now we know Jack and Nick has the same agent, but nobody except his birdie know the answer. So I reached out to the relationship that I have with Pat Kirwin. He responded with no, not true and began to tell me people are making up things and his relationship with Flores. I've fostered a pretty good relationship with Kirwin over the past 17 years. From sitting with him at Senior Bowl Practice to being with him during the training camp tour when they come to Houston with Sirius XM Radio. I'm there with the broadcast while they're meeting with coaches and such. So his credibility with me is 100.
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I must be misunderstanding something. A web search reveals that Sean Kiernan with Athletes First is Brian Flores agent.

Looks like Kiernan hired on with Athletes First in September of 2021.
He was already Flores agent, and retained Flores as a client after moving to AF, according to what I see
 
Couple of thoughts, a question, and conspiracy theory:


-Watson wouldn't make demands until AFTER his contract with the Texans is finalized. No leverage to do it beforehand. He has that leverage now with the Browns. Full go. Let's see what happens.

-Texans wouldn't release news of this at the time because it would further destroy his trade value. Trade had to be made first.

-Mustafa isn't jeopardizing his standing with his employer or the NFL if he's only following his client's wishes. (Right?) There's an important distinction to be made here on just who conjured up the demands.

-If higher sources are already loose with this information I suspect we'll hear more soon , likely at a time most beneficial to the Texans (like after the draft?) They know they've been the subject of ridicule and want the fans to know the truth. They'll want history to look back on the trade with a full understanding of the circumstances.

-surely, if this did infact happen, hard evidence (email correspondence, recordings, whatever) will be forwarded to Goodell and company. I don't believe a mutiny will sit well with owners and dw will be penalized in the harshest matter possible. We'll be led to believe it's exclusively for the criminal / civil issues.

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Here's what I don't get:


When were the 1st allegations of sexual misconduct reported? How do they line up with the demands both cnd and Corrosion cited? There's to much coincidence here for me to believe this all "accidently" started to happen at the same time.


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Is there any possibility that once this started the Texans began to more closely follow dw and uncovered his behavior with the therapists? The deeper they looked, the dirtier it got. Not only did they have a moral obligation to make it known (by leaking it,) they weaponized the circumstances to put pressure on him in response to his demands?

I'd love to know how many of these women were encouraged to go public by some outside source. How many were contacted by the Texans? How many were contacted by an "investigative reporter" who doesn't exist working for a news outlet that doesn't exist, or a law office that doesn't exist?
 
michaelm said:
I must be misunderstanding something. A web search reveals that Sean Kiernan with Athletes First is Brian Flores agent.

Looks like Kiernan hired on with Athletes First in September of 2021.
He was already Flores agent, and retained Flores as a client after moving to AF, according to what I see
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That is correct! People associate Athletes First with Mulagetta and ignore France who is Rodgers agent. The same guy is Dak's agent also. I told everyone, I'm done with it. The Watson/Flores/Mulagetta conspiracy is just ridiclous.
 
im not calling him
thunderkyss said:
I don't think this would have to be small circle kinda thing. Watson's team new what they were asking.


Again, your first question would have to be true.

second... CnD didn't use to post like this. He would share his info with a select few. Those few would then throw it out on the MB & he'd eventually have to come out & say it came from him. You don't have to believe anything that was said.

I don't know why he's doing it this way now.

But as been stated. CnD is a long time, straight up, honest poster here. The powers that be (& I'm not talking lowly moderators like myself) respect him as a member.

You don't need to challenge him or call him out. Just take the information, put it away. If anything comes out publicly, remember what you read here & compare it to what's been revealed.
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I forwarded questions. Is that wrong in your universe? I’m not calling ANYONE out. so you are saying take it for truth and shut up. I’m calling bs. People call out and challenge everyone daily on this board. I’m simply asking who would expose contacts for a beauty salon big hair message board. I wouldn’t do it for a worst enemy. If he is honest PROVE IT. I will accept that. But besides any defamation issue dont sell me for an idiot without substantiation. You are exhibiting a pathetic bias here.
 
Dejaview said:
You are exhibiting a pathetic bias here.
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He's exhibiting a bias 2 decades in the making. @CloakNNNdagger and @Corrosion have been here from the get go. Both have an exemplary track record. If one of them says it, I believe it. If 2 of them say it, it's f'ing gold.

Let me ask you a question.

What's your standard of proof? Most posters will have a different answer and that's fine. Neither are posting a link. Why would that be any better? Would you believe a writer in a link you haven't followed for 20 years with the paid motive to get as many hits as possible?

Scrutinize the story. Ask questions and have doubts. I get it - and I want more to. Just don't question the integrity of either poster.
 
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All I ask in all sincerity…my wife and I sit with a glass of wine and reflect on our deep involvement in the O&G business and how through confidentiality papers we had to sign that would rain liability hell on us if we exposed any project, prospect or any other intellectual company property, how there were more ways for us to be fired than to keep our jobs for 30+ years, and given the nfl and it’s CERTAIN similar issues with “top brass” why they would compromise careers for leaking info for a MB? Just get me past this and I’m ok
 
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powda said:
Is there any possibility that once this started the Texans began to more closely follow dw and uncovered his behavior with the therapists? The deeper they looked, the dirtier it got. Not only did they have a moral obligation to make it known (by leaking it,) they weaponized the circumstances to put pressure on him in response to his demands?

I'd love to know how many of these women were encouraged to go public by some outside source. How many were contacted by the Texans? How many were contacted by an "investigative reporter" who doesn't exist working for a news outlet that doesn't exist, or a law office that doesn't exist?
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Since I'm into wild speculation, I'd like to raise the stakes here. What if Easterby was brought in once the higher ups in the organization once they found out that Hopkins and some of the veterans on the team were doing some sketchy stuff like...I don't know...multiple players frequenting massage therapists that provide sexual services?

I don't mean to be crude when bringing this up, so I'm sorry if anyone is offended, but I think it may explain some stuff that hasn't been addressed. This is pure speculation, but this is a message board, not a court of law...

If I'm not mistaken, Easterby was brought in NE to help deal the A-Hern situation, which is about as big of a crisis as you can get on a football team. What if you're Cal or Janice or whoever and you discover more than a few very influential parts of your team go to pseudo-escorts all the time? Are you going to sound the alarm on them? Probably not. I've always thought that they use Easterby as a smoke screen to distract from some serious institutional problems with the team. Maybe they thought that they can bring Easterby in and he can help them figure out what's going on with their roster. I think that's why they shied away from saying exactly what it is he does.

I think this is why the criminal charges ultimately failed against the Buttman #4 because they could show that these women were engaged in prostitution and that's why he would always use the word "consensual" relationships when talking about them. These meetings were consensual, but I think he was a cheapskate and didn't want to pay them for "extras" and they blew the whistle on him when he didn't pay them enough. It would also explain why the masseuses didn't have a record of their chats because it would also show that they were engaging in sexual activities with a lot of their clients and would expose them to criminal liability.

As the old saying goes "You don't pay a prostitute for sex, you pay her to leave afterwards." I think Go Deeper Derrick violated this rule and instead of doing what any sane, competent sexual deviant does...pay them off...he opted to go the other way due to his delusions of grandeur. Like I said, this is just wild speculation, but it would fill in some of the apparent incongruity between aspects of the Buttman saga and why the Texans haven't been forthcoming and haven't acted how you may have expected.

So @powda I don't think your conspiracy is so crazy, something like that could have happened.
 
Dejaview said:
why they would compromise careers for leaking info for a MB? Just get me past this and I’m ok
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Because ownership is on board and nobody is jeopardizing a career for it. Information is leaked. There's no deliberate effort to get it to a message board before anyone else. We just have a collective group of more resourceful people with a common intrest.
 
thunderkyss said:
I don't think this would have to be small circle kinda thing. Watson's team new what they were asking.


Again, your first question would have to be true.

second... CnD didn't use to post like this. He would share his info with a select few. Those few would then throw it out on the MB & he'd eventually have to come out & say it came from him. You don't have to believe anything that was said.

I don't know why he's doing it this way now.

But as been stated. CnD is a long time, straight up, honest poster here. The powers that be (& I'm not talking lowly moderators like myself) respect him as a member.

You don't need to challenge him or call him out. Just take the information, put it away. If anything comes out publicly, remember what you read here & compare it to what's been revealed.
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I respect the guy and believe it. I feel like I’m a good judge of character and can spot a bullshitter pretty quick. A year or so ago I was trying to read a chronicle article that CnD had posted but the old paywall issue. CnD reached out to via PM, called me on my cell phone and walked me through the process of getting through the paywall. I post this because I sat on the phone with him for a good 20-25 mins and if he’s a bullshitter then he sure has me fooled. I also can’t verify what he’s posting but I can vouch that he‘s a good guy, to the point and legit in my book. Nothing about him screams attention whore so he has no reason to post fiction here.
 
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Dejaview said:
All I ask in all sincerity…my wife and I sit with a glass of wine and reflect on our deep involvement in the O&G business and how through confidentiality papers we had to sign that would rain liability hell on us if we exposed any project, prospect or any other intellectual company property and given the nfl and it’s CERTAIN similar issues with “top brass” why they would compromise careers for leaking info for a MB? Just get me past this and I’m ok
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I'm glad you asked. As an attorney who spent many years doing title work and working with companies you probably know to put together deals, I believe there is a difference. Although I'm not a specialist in litigation, I do have a theory as to how this could happen.

THIS IS NOT LEGAL ADVICE. (Damn disclaimers!)

Let's start with my previous post:
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...[The] Texans brass/organization are the people that would have to sue or reprimand the people that leaked the info and as @michaelm pointed out, they probably want the story to leak now that it's over. If they want the story leaked, they aren't suing anyone.
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It comes down to primarily, standing to file suit, and secondarily, damages as a result of the actions. As much as the Watson camp would get a black eye or be seen in a negative light by the release of this information, truth is an affirmative defense to defamation. The leaker could get sued, but if it's true, that is a defense to defamation. Unless a confidentially/non-disclosure agreement exists (or potentially exists), Watson and his camp have no provable damages or standing to sue anyone other than for defamation. The man just signed the largest guaranteed contract in the history of the NFL by $80m dollars. Unless there is a clause that can void that, they have no damages, and also no standing to sue anyone, because there is no privity of contract.

I would imagine the Texans may have that sort of deal with the ownership/brass of the organization, but if they give the okay to leak the info because they want people to find out, they have waived any sort of cause of action against that person, or the clause in the non-disclosure/confidentially clause for that limited purpose.

In your O&G agreements, there are non-disclosures and confidentially clauses that could functionally destroy companies. These are not at play (or have been waived by the party holding the ability to do so) in this situation.

I hope this helps.
 
Texazan said:
I respect the guy and believe it. I feel like I’m a good judge of character and can spot a bullshitter pretty quick. A year or so ago I was trying to read a chronicle article he had posted but the old paywall issue. CnD reached out to via PM, called me on my cell phone and walked me through the process of getting through the paywall. I post this because I sat on the phone with him for a good 20-25 mins and if he’s a bullshitter then he sure has me fooled. I also can’t verify what he’s posting but I can vouch that he‘s a good guy, to the point and legit in my book. Nothing about him screams attention whore so he has no reason to post fiction here.
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I believe that. I bought something a year plus ago from @Corrosion. He does woodwork and has posted some things over the years. I liked what I saw and bought blindly. No bs. Delivered promptly. Happy with what I got.


I don't have that kinda experience with some no name reporter at some bs news outlet.

I've got history and that's worth more then a link.
 
powda said:
He's exhibiting a bias 2 decades in the making. @CloakNNNdagger and @Corrosion have been here from the get go. Both have an exemplary track record. If one of them says it, I believe it. If 2 of them say it, it's f'ing gold.

Let me ask you a question.

What's your standard of proof? Most posters will have a different answer and that's fine. Neither are posting a link. Why would that be any better? Would you believe a writer in a link you haven't followed for 20 years with the paid motive to get as many hits as possible?

Scrutinize the story. Ask questions and have doubts. I get it - and I want more to. Just don't question the integrity of either poster.
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Oh they can question the poster but in this case it’s just not valid. When there is a history good or bad we use it and in this case we have history and the percentages swing in the posters favor, you have to take that into account.
 
powda said:
I believe that. I bought something a year plus ago from @Corrosion. He does woodwork and has posted some things over the years. I liked what I saw and bought blindly. No bs. Delivered promptly. Happy with what I got.


I don't have that kinda experience with some no name reporter at some bs news outlet.

I've got history and that's worth more then a link.
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..just don't buy knockoff jerseys from members on this site 😂
 
[QUOTE="Texazan said:
I respect the guy and believe it. I feel like I’m a good judge of character and can spot a bullshitter pretty quick. A year or so ago I was trying to read a chronicle article he had posted but the old paywall issue. CnD reached out to via PM, called me on my cell phone and walked me through the process of getting through the paywall. I post this because I sat on the phone with him for a good 20-25 mins and if he’s a bullshitter then he sure has me fooled. I also can’t verify what he’s posting but I can vouch that he‘s a good guy, to the point and legit in my book. Nothing about him screams attention whore so he has no reason to post fiction here.
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I get all this and I respect the guy usually for what he says. but IMO this smacks of MB bs otherwise it would have been picked up, even today, by the media who are always looking for what the gals at the beauty salon are saying. I hope it’s true because I hate that DW P.O.S. but people, ****, breathe and let this develop. Give us something else before April 1, CnD!
 
Dejaview said:
All I ask in all sincerity…my wife and I sit with a glass of wine and reflect on our deep involvement in the O&G business and how through confidentiality papers we had to sign that would rain liability hell on us if we exposed any project, prospect or any other intellectual company property, how there were more ways for us to be fired than to keep our jobs for 30+ years, and given the nfl and it’s CERTAIN similar issues with “top brass” why they would compromise careers for leaking info for a MB? Just get me past this and I’m ok
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Controlled leaks, companies do it all the time when they want information out there but they can’t reveal it themselves for one reason or another. As someone else stated a company, in this case the Texans, are not going to go after someone for leaking something they wanted leaked.

Consider this, for the last 3-4 years now the river of leaks that use to flow out of the Texans has been stopped. Since then Texans have actually become one of the more secretive teams willing to let the media run with whatever half baked story they come up with.

However the Watson thing is big with many fans still believing it is a giant conspiracy against Watson. So the question about who said what and why and who knew what and when becomes very important. So important Watson was actually asked in his deposition if the Texans knew he was going to outside massage therapists.

Do you know why he was asked that? Because if the answer was yes Texans just became liable and could be named in the lawsuits. Rule number one of suing someone is go after the deepest pockets and while Watson may have just signed a 230 million dollar contract it’s still nothing compared to what someone could get out of the Texans.

I don’t know for a fact if what @CloakNNNdagger posted is true or not. I personally trust his information but if you ask me to prove it I can’t. However to the question of why it would be leaked and why someone would risk their job that I can answer and the answer is that they aren’t risking their job because this is what the powers that be want out there, they just can’t say it themselves.
 
Dejaview said:
I get all this and I respect the guy usually for what he says. but IMO this smacks of MB bs otherwise it would have been picked up, even today, by the media who are always looking for what the gals at the beauty salon are saying. I hope it’s true because I hate that DW P.O.S. but people, ****, breathe and let this develop. Give us something else before April 1, CnD!
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The media in Houston has done nothing but crucify the Texans over the Watson situation. Remember all those jokes we talk about on Larry and the boner he has for Watson? Even the most well known media person, Pancakes, has been bitter ever since he got shut out. The firing of the beloved PR person what’s her face, under who EVERYTHING leaked, just made them hate the Texans more.

Why on Earth would the Texans leak this to the local media when it will just be twisted to make Watson seem like the victim again?

P.S. The national media hasn’t been any better. Just go listen to that idiot Stephen A for some examples.
 
ATXtexanfan said:
The fact that texas penguin had consistent negative posts on content battering the texans means that the texans do lurk here

In the shadows
Watching us

Because this is the to go to place for everything Houston Texans
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Getting a thumbs down from him is a rite of passage here.

It's expected that you (and others) as a seasoned member, explore his posting history and dislike them all. In his culture, dislikes mean he has room for improvement. That's encouraged and welcomed among his people. None of us should ever expect to be perfect.

Help him by disliking his posts.
 
powda said:
Getting a thumbs down from him is a rite of passage here.

It's expected that you (and others) as a seasoned member, explore his posting history and dislike them all. In his culture, dislikes mean he has room for improvement. That's encouraged and welcomed among his people. None of us should ever expect to be perfect.

Help him by disliking his posts.
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I mean he’s a bird that can’t fly! I’d be pissed too!
 
powda said:
Getting a thumbs down from him is a rite of passage here.

It's expected that you (and others) as a seasoned member, explore his posting history and dislike them all. In his culture, dislikes mean he has room for improvement. That's encouraged and welcomed among his people. None of us should ever expect to be perfect.

Help him by disliking his posts.
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I’ve never gotten a thumbs down only thumbs up. :cry2:
 
Dejaview said:
All I ask in all sincerity…my wife and I sit with a glass of wine and reflect on our deep involvement in the O&G business and how through confidentiality papers we had to sign that would rain liability hell on us if we exposed any project, prospect or any other intellectual company property, how there were more ways for us to be fired than to keep our jobs for 30+ years, and given the nfl and it’s CERTAIN similar issues with “top brass” why they would compromise careers for leaking info for a MB? Just get me past this and I’m ok
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The project is over, there's nothing to lose in this coming out.


Watson's gone and for months the narrative has been how poorly the team did everything. The media beat them to death and kept on preaching the preacher crap like its gospel ... When is the last time anyone said something nice about Cal around here .... besides me defending him.


Now we have the following all in one thread ....

ATXtexanfan said:
If true
Good job Cal
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TexansBull said:
True.

But saying that means Cal is smart. Or has a smart inner circle to advise him on that stuff. And he is smart enough to listen.

Is that where we are at?
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TexansBull said:
Not to hijack the thread but:

I think this is a little redemption for Cal. He made a horrible letting OB be GM and whatever power he gave to Easterby as well. Maybe he still was grieving over his father or was really busy with a new video game? Either way it set the franchise back.

Cal then had to focus and put down the game boy to deal with Watson’s demands. And we did hear rumbles of how Watson wanted say in GM and the HC hirings. And we did hear about how it was angled to more minority based.

Cal eventually got fed up with it and hired who he wanted to hire. To hell with everything else.

Then he let Caserio go to work with hiring a HC and working the Watson trade.

The HC lasted a year and then Cal was getting sued for discrimination. He pulled the reins on Caserio and promoted Lovie. Cal wanted no part in the lawsuit. Especially because the Texans have been good practicers of diversity.

Caserio then completed the trade.

There actually were three pivotal points that Cal and his team navigated quite well. Hiring the GM. Handing Watson’s demands and trade. Then hiring Lovie to avoid the Flores lawsuit.

I tell you when Cal puts down the Gameboy and focuses he actually starts acting like a NFL owner.
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Carr Bombed said:
..just don't buy knockoff jerseys from members on this site 😂
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I remember that fiasco ....

@SWTBound

I believe he was a Titans fan ....
 
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