Pep was here last year & we still couldn't run the ball. You'd think after just 8 weeks they'd have been open to any idea from any one in the building.
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Head Coach Candidate (Lovie Smith Hired) 2/7/22
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We haven’t been able to run the ball for a while though.
Texian
Hall of Fame
The collective butt in the Kirby Boardroom is worn out, they're throwing in the towel.
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vtech9
All Pro
With Pep as OC, I think we are more likely to move to the ZBS. That will improve the running game instantly. Our current roster is a better fit for the ZBS anyway.
maverick512000
Hall of Fame
I'm not dismayed by anything, being dismayed would mean that I care what people are saying and I mostly don't. I just find it funny.
Dave Campen is a ZBS coach. They were Zone Blocking last season.
They weren't doing that zone stretch Kubiak relies heavily on. But they were zone blocking
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Texansphan
Football connoisseur
Lovie Smith makes eminent sense.
Former Chicago Bears HC and great defensive mind with the added bonus that he is the right color.
Former Chicago Bears HC and great defensive mind with the added bonus that he is the right color.
Speedy
Former Yeller Dweller
The sham is thinking anybody is going to make a difference right now. This team is still a ways away from being competitive for anything. That’s why I was surprised to got rid of Culley after 350 days, because firing him now and getting a 2nd HC really does nothing at the moment. Especially seeing how they’re likely landing on Lovie.
As I’ve mention upthread, they just appear to have no vision, no direction at the moment. Not to mention they’re so bad off that it seems no legit candidate wants to touch this place with a 39 and a half foot pole.
In hindsight, I think if they knew how things were going to play out they would not have fired Culley. Now, they obviously can't go back and re-hire Culley so hiring Lovie Smith is the closest thing to doing that right now.
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
He is a dinosaur in that he invariably sticks to the cover 2 defense. With this approach, he will need a perfect fitting defensive roster to expect to have consistent success. But who knows, as a HC, his goals/duties will have changed and he could very well in wisdom choose a DC that can adjust away from his in-stone scheme. There is some hope for this.
The Pencil Neck
Hall of Fame
I won't be upset if they go with Lovie. I expect him to be an upgrade over Culley.
I think he'll do better than McCown or Flores. I would have been interested to see how Gannon fared, but I think the Flores lawsuit put a stop to that because that would have appeared to have been validation of the suit, although not nearly as bad as choosing McCown.
I think he'll do better than McCown or Flores. I would have been interested to see how Gannon fared, but I think the Flores lawsuit put a stop to that because that would have appeared to have been validation of the suit, although not nearly as bad as choosing McCown.
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
You would think. But that was the main reasons Culley was fired...........he was unwilling to take advice.
He went away from the hard cover two the last three weeks of the season
Texansballer74
The Marine
So Josh turn down the HC job. Lol off the chains
You could have stopped after the first three words in each line.
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
He had little choice as the remaining roster adequate for a cover 2 was slim pickens.
Texansphan
Football connoisseur
To continue...
Lovie has the inside running.
He is already familiar with all the personel.
I hope it happens - then all the fucenhaters around the league cansucit.
Texansballer74
The Marine
Now why didn’t any of these true sources Earl did not say anything about Lovie? Lol
Because it was very last minute
Texansballer74
The Marine
i would not be willing to take advice either when your GM is telling you to let a team score. And it wasn’t in the 4th quarter.
Texansballer74
The Marine
Is that what it was?
vtech9
All Pro
Up until the San Diego game, I didn't really see much ZBS. I think that goes back to the OC, and him wanting to run what he knows. When all of the starters were out, using the ZBS made more sense for the less experienced guys, because they had to think less. In turn, it almost made it look like we had a good OLine. I wish Campen would have stayed, but I can't blame him for leaving for the sure thing. I'm sure he understood that whoever the new HC would be, his position wasn't guaranteed. With TK gone, and possibly Pep as OC, they will have more power to make changes to the blocking scheme.
Texansballer74
The Marine
TheRealJoker
Hall of Fame
If they can get Mccown and Pep on the offensive coaching staff i’m feeling good about Davis Mills in year two.
Jack Burton
Veteran
Relax. Lovie is shaving as we speak and will appear much younger…
I almost want them to hire McClown now.
Just to throw another wrench in this giant fustercluck.
Texansphan
Football connoisseur
I wouldn't sweat it - haters gonna hate.
Texansphan
Football connoisseur
Dinosaur or no, he is likely the best option out there right now.
Sure make him interim HC and wait for that better option, but at least he has HC experience and is already familiar with the personel here.
And as I mentioned earlier, he is the right color.
At least having a head coach who can listen to his assistants.
banned1976
sleeper mode
So, the Texans had these head coaching candidates available to start their search:
Brian Daboll - helped turn Josh Allen into a very good QB
Matt Eberflus - helped turn the Colts defense into a top 10 defense
Nathaniel Hackett - helped Blake Bortles and the Jags get to the AFCCG
Mike McDaniel - assisted Shanahan in developing solid running games, something the Texans have struggled with since AF
Josh McDaniels
Kevin O'Connell
Doug Pederson - won a Super Bowl as HC of the Eagles with Foles and Wentz as his QB's
Josh McCown - high school coach
Flores
Now it's down to Lovie (not even a consideration at the beginning of the head coaching search) and Flores, a guy who has made himself NFL enemy #1.
Brian Daboll - helped turn Josh Allen into a very good QB
Matt Eberflus - helped turn the Colts defense into a top 10 defense
Nathaniel Hackett - helped Blake Bortles and the Jags get to the AFCCG
Mike McDaniel - assisted Shanahan in developing solid running games, something the Texans have struggled with since AF
Josh McDaniels
Kevin O'Connell
Doug Pederson - won a Super Bowl as HC of the Eagles with Foles and Wentz as his QB's
Josh McCown - high school coach
Flores
Now it's down to Lovie (not even a consideration at the beginning of the head coaching search) and Flores, a guy who has made himself NFL enemy #1.
Texansphan
Football connoisseur
I think the players and other coaches like him too.
Mr teX
Hall of Fame
Not uncommon around the league really.
Mike McDaniel & Hackett came from nowhere to snag gigs wasn’t really on any ones radar…if he was he was way down the list.
And Eric Bienemy still hasn’t landed a gig….& he’s been out there for 4 years now.
Sirianni did the same thing last year.
xtruroyaltyx
Hall of Fame
When Culley was fired Lovie was the first guy I thought of for HC.
Then McCown became a real option and the unknown was exciting.
I would've preferred McCown just to see wtf was going to happen, but I'm good with Lovie
Then McCown became a real option and the unknown was exciting.
I would've preferred McCown just to see wtf was going to happen, but I'm good with Lovie
Thorn
Dirty Old Man
What? You expect the Texans to do something right? Get in line behind all the other disappointed folks. LOL
If Lovie becomes HC I expect Miles Smith to become DC.
banned1976
sleeper mode
The only disappointment I have over all this is that they haven't (and I guess they're not) hired Josh McCown. I was really looking forward to hearing how they would spin the move.
Thorn
Dirty Old Man
Train wrecks can be entertaining sometimes.
TexansBull
Hall of Fame
I thought that is why we are all still here?
Sure we all were “football” fans back in 2002. But after 20 years it is all about not being able to look away from the train wreck.
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
Don't rule out Rodney Marinelli the defensive line coach for the Raiders. Marinelli and Lovie have strong philosophical ties and Marinelli has had extensive experience, including several HC, DC, assistant HC stints. He's older, but could be the best transition option while grooming the younger future permanent DC which could be Miles Smith.
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TheRealJoker
Hall of Fame
I didn’t realize Marinelli was still in the league. He’d be the perfect DC option. And was Lovie’s DC in Chicago from 2010-2012.
Peanut Tillman and Lance Briggs were hoping Chicago would bring him or Lovie back as DC under Eberflus this upcoming season:
Why Rod Marinelli may draw interest for Bears DC job
Matt Eberflus has worked with Marinelli in the past. Lance Briggs and Peanut Tillman approve, too.
www.nbcsports.com
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So, if Lovie is hired, will this start the Official Rebuild®, or, is he just another so-called "placeholder" head coach?
How many of these head coaches does Caserio get as GM? I'd say the over/under is at least 3.5.
The McNairs will give him at least a third chance, because that's what stupid, out-of-touch, rich people would do.
There is absolutely nothing bold or proactive about anyone in the entire McNair family. They have always been half-hearted reactionaries, going back to Bob McNair.
Wake me up when this team is finally over .500. It'll be a while.
How many of these head coaches does Caserio get as GM? I'd say the over/under is at least 3.5.
The McNairs will give him at least a third chance, because that's what stupid, out-of-touch, rich people would do.
There is absolutely nothing bold or proactive about anyone in the entire McNair family. They have always been half-hearted reactionaries, going back to Bob McNair.
Wake me up when this team is finally over .500. It'll be a while.
The current roster of Ol consists of suckage.
This is why he was hired and the fact that at 65 he wont be a long term guy. I expect Lovie to be replaced in a couple of yrs. Caserio should've hired Lovie last yr.
The reason it appears this way is Culley wasn't willing to take the hickey for the team for 2-3 yrs. Plus he really struggled with the PR side of the HC position. Lovie wont have these issues.
McDaniels in Miami and Lovie, 2 minority hires since the Flores crap. Not shocked.
Speedy
Former Yeller Dweller
Not when it’s always your train.
We’ll be doing this HC search again in 2 years max.
austins23
Hall of Fame
No...no he wasn't/isn't. See below post and that list
Yep...which is way they are stuck/picking Smith.