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Head Coach Candidate (Lovie Smith Hired) 2/7/22
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Mangler
Toro de España
Would they fuccing dare?
Who knows? The point is they probably don’t think it’s a good idea to bring him in as HC.
TexansFight
Veteran
I am a Christian too and go to church every Sunday. I don’t have a problem with FCA. What I do have a problem with is the Texans’ penchant for moronic, unorthodox moves that no other team in the league makes. NO OTHER NFL TEAM WOULD CONSIDER CULLEY OR MCCOWN. Their candidate list SUCKS and they are not even bothering to interview all the top candidates. When the motivation is to hire a coach which Caserio can meddle with and pretend to be a coach AND the relationship of a potential coach to Satan Easterby based on non-football factors leads to a Culley or McCown - you bet your ass I have a problem with it. This is the dumbest team in pro sports by far and are an embarrassment to Htown.
Speedy
Former Yeller Dweller
And instead of taking it and getting something on his resume, he turns it down and volunteers as a QB coach at some NC high school. Sounds like the perfect guy I want running my football team.
Until they actually hire someone (or anyone does) your rant is a bit premature
TexansFight
Veteran
It is infuriating that this team completely lacks any sense introspection or humility regarding the results on the field. They continue their defiant, tone deaf stupidity and are doing the same crap with the coaching search that led to the worst NFL coach that I have ever seen. Nothing is going to change until either Tommy Boy sells the team or they completely bottom out in attendance
TexansFight
Veteran
And you’re giving the benefit of the doubt to this team. The Culley hire was a slow train wreck that we all knew would be a disaster. The same thing is happening again. Sorry - the alarm is warranted. This team has the worst reputation in the league because of the brain trust in charge. Most likely the best candidates are giving this team the finger. What does that say if that is the case - coaches actively avoiding interviewing for one of the 32 jobs.
I think it’s his son’s school
Texansballer74
The Marine
Here’s where the Texans may face their last stand as an organization
With reports circling about the Texans interest in...
houston.sportsmap.com
TexansFight
Veteran
Easterby has destroyed this franchise. He was right there with buttchin making the worst moves I have ever seen. He is a coward that doesn’t take any accountability for the mess he has created and avoids the media to answer for his stupidity. Houston hates this asshole for those reasons. It is not some made up bs that the media has created. These are facts. The media in this town is soft. You think Easterby would be able to get away with this crap in Philly, Chicago and NY. They would have run him out on a rail. Instead we have Pancakes shilling for this garbage team ******* over the fans.
EllisUnit
Vote RED!!!
I don't care who they hire as long as whoever it is brings passion, desire and some brains to the head set. Every coach at one time was a first time head coach, the logic is flawed. No one is born doing something, you work hard to get the opportunity and then you succeed or you fail. Hell i though Vrabel would be a horrible head coach and look at that dude... all you couch GMs know your **** 
amazing80
Hall of Fame
Sounds complex and not really necessary. It's the same concept as OB but for the defense and I am tired of seeing complex systems that don't work for the majority of teams and players. Lovie's defense works well when that's all he is focused on. The moment he gets more added to his plate his defense will falter. No reason to hire a defensive-minded HC. BTW look at the top teams in the league and the remaining teams in the playoffs. Offensive-minded coaches (except Sean M with Buffalo) You could argue Daboll is carrying that offense and Frazier is the light with the defense. Sean is managing things now, as it should be.
The league is transitioning away from defensive-minded head coaches and going towards offense. the league is making it easier and easier to score. you need to have a high-powered passing team in order to compete.
Lets see how this turns out.
Difference between us is I actually think McCown will make a really good HC. I know he doesn't have NFL experience as a HC but he's got great bloodlines here in Texas. His dad was a HC/Brothers etc... I believe right now McCown would be an upgrade over BOB/Culley with no NFL experience. He's been around alot of great HC's in his 20 yrs as player and the 12 teams he played for.
I understand the optics but my disdain for the media makes me tune out pretty much everything they say. They're irrelevant in my mind.
leebigeztx
Keep it Movin!
So dudes turning down the job because Caserio is too hands on? Sounds like they're about to get another Culley type of coach, a puppet
I'm not giving them anything. I remain skeptical but the championship games have not even been played. No HC has been hired league-wide. There are 8 other teams that haven't hired their coach. No candidates have been lost to others at this point. They may be getting turned down by some, but as of now, it's pure speculation. You want to get all riled up so early, go right ahead. May as well scream at the moon for being made of cheedar instead of swiss
paycheck71
Hall of Fame
What respectable coach is going to come in and inherit an Assistant HC/HC in waiting? Nobody. If that happens, they might as well have kept Culley for another year.
Damn .... there's that word again .... will be revisiting 50 year old nightmares tonight !!premature or proactive
I think Culley is a respectable coach
It sure as heck ain't gouda.
paycheck71
Hall of Fame
You know what I mean. No one ever heard of him, especially as an HC candidate until the Texans interviewed and hired him. I'm sure he's a very nice and respectable individual.
I’m saying just like no respectable coach would accept an assistant HC, Culley wasn’t found of the idea either
texanhead08
All Pro
There needs to be talent on this roster before you can convince me any of these guys will be good coaches. I need to see wins not moral victories.
paycheck71
Hall of Fame
OK. I get it. And I'm saying with a move like that, you're eliminating 100% of desired (if that word works better) coaches from taking this job.
You're going to have to wait until the 2024 season for this.
maverick512000
Hall of Fame
What exactly about the Culley hire was a disaster? He did exactly what he was suppose to do, be the anti-OB and be a cheerleader in a throwaway season. Or did you think they could have hired a coach, any coach, that would have had a good season? So they have to pay him lots of money, so what it doesn’t count against the cap so it doesn’t hurt the team. Most on here were saying Culley was a bridge coach well what exactly did you think a bridge coach would do?
As far as this team having the worst reputation I seriously laugh how little some people seem to know about other teams and how they do things. It’s like people here think all other teams function like the Patriots or something. Go look at the Lions who haven’t even gotten close to being a good team in decades. Go look at the Bengals who, despite their success this year, have long been known as the cheapest team in the league and he place careers go to die. And once you get through all that go look at Washington, a team who’s ownership is so bad it actually has congress doing an investigation on it.
Then come back and tell me how we are the worst team in the NFL.
maverick512000
Hall of Fame
Please post your proof of these facts.
TexansFight
Veteran
Culley was the most inept and dumbest coach I have ever seen when it comes to game management at any level of football. If you’re newly in charge of an operation and your first big hire turns out to be an absolute turd, that doesn’t give us much confidence in the leadership of this team.
You can find out pretty quickly how sharp someone is. The same is true when it comes to determining if someone is dumb. This guy was way in over his head and had no ability to diagnose what ailed the team. He is a 65 YEAR OLD coach that NO OTHER NFL TEAM considered worthy enough to be a COORDINATOR. We made him the head ******* coach. Other teams properly sized Culley up as nothing more than a position coach because he lacks the brain power and other attributes necessary to be a HC. This guy was even dumber than Charlie Strong and that is saying something. You can hire a bridge coach that is competent and that commands respect -amongst the players, fans and media Culley quickly earned the reputation of being a joke. Stop defending the indefensible. This is the worst run team in the NFL. At least the Lions hired Dan Campbell and got good value in trading Matt Stafford. The Texans have hired the worst coach in recent memory and have made the worst trades as well. Lions fans wouldn’t trade their situation with ours.
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TexansFight
Veteran
Please get informed and stop being obtuse.
Bill O’Brien has deservedly earned much scorn for his poor work as a Texans general manager. Easterby was there every step of the way.
At an off-the-record schmoozefest with media prior to the 2020 season, O’Brien and Easterby made it clear they were lockstep partners in ruining, er, running the Texans.
Speedy
Former Yeller Dweller
Though I agree Culley was hired to be their sock puppet, the question becomes why did they let him go? Other than having a couple of picks in the first 2 rounds, they aren’t any better off than they were at this time last year. It’s going to be another throw away season.
Did they fire him because the guy they really want said he’s ready? Is that guy not McDaniels or Mayo and is instead McCown?
Whatever the case may be, Caserio is now on his 2nd HC in as many years. I think they fired Culley too early because if this 2nd HC comes in and struggles, which he’s likely to because the roster is still in bad shape, that’s not going to be a good look at all. They go 4 wins again, then what? How many GMs get a shot at hiring a 3rd HC, particularly in a short period of time with very little winning being done?
The pressure on Caserio gets cranked up to full blast now. He can’t have low win totals with a 2nd HC.
Texansballer74
The Marine
Ummm Bill O’Brien was just as dumb with game management. Have we forgotten?
maverick512000
Hall of Fame
You are talking completely out your backside. Great NFL coaches and players both said that Culley was ready and that he deserved a chance. The worst game management decision he made was the punt but every coach has made boned calls particularly their first year. You talk as someone that has never been thrown into the deep end and had to learn to swim and just hoping that those that threw you give you a chance to learn. It has been talked about several times that there were likely outside reasons for Culley not being given a chance. The fact you can say that Culley was the worst HC hire when we just saw the Urban Meyer circus shows that you are not thinking rationally or logically and are going off pure emotion and knee jerk emotions at that.
Texansballer74
The Marine
Power struggles that’s why he was fired. First example was when Culley kept telling the team and media that Tyrod was his starting quarterback.
maverick512000
Hall of Fame
I asked for proof and you post an opinion article from someone that clearly has an axe to grind and, by the way, also gives no proof for anything he says. Someone who writing profile says "A math genius and engineering major in college, he's still working on this writing thing. He says that the three years he spent as an F.M. Black Panther probably played a more significant a role in the man he would become than the time he spent in college." Oh yeah I'm really going to take seriously a sports writer that brags about being a math genius while still working on this writing thing.
You told me to "get informed" well let me help you get informed.
FACT
a thing that is known or proved to be true.
"he ignores some historical and economic facts"
information used as evidence or as part of a report or news article.
"even the most inventive journalism peters out without facts, and in this case there were no facts"
the truth about events as opposed to interpretation.
"there was a question of fact as to whether they had received the letter"
But you know what, for the sake of argument lets say you are right and all the bad contracts the Texans handed out Easterby was lockstep with OB on. First its Cal's fault for putting someone over contracts that has no business being there just like its his fault for giving OB the power he did. Do you really think its fair to blame and fire someone that was completely set up for failure when they, surprise, fail? Now Caserio has said that Easterby has nothing to do with contracts and other football decisions and, putting emotion and baseless things thrown around here and on media aside, all evidence points to that being true. So what does it matter if he is still there as long as he's not actually making football decisions?
maverick512000
Hall of Fame
I agree entirely and I wanted them to give Culley a second year. There are a couple of reasons I can think of that they didn't, first I thought it was because Brian Flores suddenly was available so that sped up the time table but that doesn't seem to be the case. Next I thought it was because Culley said that Tim Kelley was staying and while that may still be why I don't understand why Culley would go off the reservation like that unless he got flustered and spoke without running it by Caserio first. Your theory of the person they really want saying that he is ready could also be it. Might be Culley didn't like the idea of McCown being the assistant HC and basically training his replacement. We won't really know until they actually hire the next HC but I agree the pressure is on now for both this hire and the draft.
Texian
Hall of Fame
Exactly, a new perspective coach knows they will have little input on their staff, and the 53-man roster. Know that on game days Caserio will be in their ear and Easterby will be stalking them on the sideline. Additionally, they will be expected to live up to the McNair's religious expectations. What self-respecting coach would want to sign on for this? What could possibly go wrong?
TexansBull
Hall of Fame
I find it interesting that McDaniels wants the perfect situation. Alignment with a GM. And ownership. Supposedly he was willing to go to the Raiders with his be of the assistant GMs of New England. I think Ziegler is his name.
But they both withdrew for one reason or another.
Makes you wonder why McDaniels isn’t coming here.
www.google.com
But they both withdrew for one reason or another.
Makes you wonder why McDaniels isn’t coming here.
Report: Josh McDaniels was recruiting assistants for Raiders staff but ‘something happened’
McDaniels and Dave Ziegler were rumored to be frontrunners as a tandem.
www.google.com
Porky
Hall of Fame
Texansfight is 100% correct. This is a slow motion train wreck and has been since BOB walked in the building. It then greatly accelerated when Bob McNair died (RIP) and his clueless kid took over. He and Janice have been manipulated ever since in an attempt to fill the leadership vacuum. Cal is a total empty suit and I can’t figure out why he doesn’t sell the team to someone that actually gives a damn.
Texian
Hall of Fame
The Houston Texans Commitment to Excellence is, thou shall not sin.
TexansFight
Veteran
Culley was worse. Don’t you remember the stupid timeouts. Coaching errors directly responsible for the loss to the Pats and declining the penalty on 3rd down to rather punt on 4th down. BOB was horrible but these mistakes were unprecedented when it comes to stupidity. I have never seen anything like that in 30+ years of being a NFL fan.
TexansFight
Veteran
Didn’t you read that Solomon was present and both BOB and Rasputin made it clear - meaning directly from their own God damned mouths that they were in lockstep and jointly responsible for the decisions they made. Why are you blind to the truth that is staring you in the face. Take a look at the carnage that he has caused and the people he has driven out. Those are FACTS. Amazing that you are willfully evading what is plainly evident to everyone who has a shred of knowledge about this team and the league in general.
Texansballer74
The Marine
I remember Bill O’Brien calling stupid timeouts too.
Rootes and Palcic needed to be pushed out whether Easterby was down on Kirby or not. IMHO This is more of the media pushing a narrative and I will bet you one of these people were the source behind the SI piece.
Who are these other good people that got pushed out?
BTW, I don't like how the coaching search is going. Something doesn't feel right.
Texian
Hall of Fame
Kool Aid, lots and lots of Kool Aid.
The Kool Aid Brigade is in denial. The new GM's very first major decision was absolutely one of the worst hires in the history of the NFL. Today, the Brigade defends the hire as being part of process and he was only meant to be a bridge coach. What the hell is a bridge coach other than some kind of excuse that is dumber than the decision to hire Culley in the first place. From everything I have seen is a bridge coach puts a faux rebuild 2 to 3 years further behind. For sure there is a process in place, and all indications are 2022 is going to be worse than 2021. It's the process. And the process is void of all logic and common sense. This is your typical Belichick admin assistant FUBAR and SNAFU.
Mr teX
Hall of Fame
& he was thought to be a good hire at the time. At this point, you’re not going to convince any of these folks they have a blind spot as it pertains to Jack Easterby and and reason for the teams’ current issues.
Especially those quoting Jerome Solomon articles
.“Dysfunction” was alive and well before Cal took over, Bob and Easterby. Remember it was BOB McNair who made the “inmates running the prison” comment that upset Duane Brown and saw Nuk walking out of practice. It was also Bob McNair who hired O’Brien. & you’re in denial if you believe this DW4 fiasco wasn’t going to blow up in this org’s face whether Easterby was involved or not. I’m just glad it happened when it did.
wildroot
Rookie
Looks like McDaniels to the Raiders, Leftwich to the Jags and Hacket to Denver. And here we sit doing absolutely nothing. WTF is Caserio doing everyday?!? Is there anything more important on his plate right now? He should be on a plane hitiing these cities conducting interviews in hotel rooms if need be. No one wants to come here? BS! Money talks. Offer whatever the going rate is + a guaranteed signing bonus that would be hard to refuse. It's not gonna happen if he's waiting on someone to knock on his door!
BTW...90% of the content on the last few pages should be moved to different threads. Gets old having to scroll through the BS to get some relevant news on the H.C.ing search.
BTW...90% of the content on the last few pages should be moved to different threads. Gets old having to scroll through the BS to get some relevant news on the H.C.ing search.
I think it's more common than the author leads on. Wade Phillips & every coordinator until Lovie has done the same here. We played a 3-4... & 4-3 depending on down & distance.