Mahomes only runs as a last resort.
I think you should go back and look at Reid's offense in Philly with McNabb.
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Mahomes only runs as a last resort.
I think you should go back and look at Reid's offense in Philly with McNabb.
No, I said he was stupid. It was in the heat of the moment and I apologized.
Turns out that statement (Although I shouldn't have said it) was correct.
sandman
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Watson 2020 Rushing Attempts Per Game: 5.6 (90 in 16 games)
Watson Career Rushing Attempts Per Game: 5.7 (307 in 54 games)
TexansBull
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I know cancel culture is a thing. Get enough people to say someone did something offensive and that person gets canceled.
I don’t subscribe to that.
If you are going to say someone said something prove it.
Don’t leave it to - oh you know. Or you should know.
That’s weak.
If you are going to claim someone did something on a message board then it should be easily proven. Otherwise - don’t make claims.
That’s all I am saying.
I get what you're saying, but are you telling me Mahomes/Pervert play the game the same way? If so I strongly disagree.
OptimisticTexan
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I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again…..if Mahomes had been with the Texans and OB since 2017 not only would there be no difference in the end results, Mahomes stats may not be any better.
This is where we disagree.
Mahomes has more talent and is mentally superior to the Pervert.
The Pervert is fools gold, nothing more than a lesser modern day McNabb.
TK is incorrect, when asked for proof he cant provide any.
TexansBull
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The only thing I disagree with is the end result. I can’t see Mahomes frequently seeking out massages.
Other than that - yea OB would have screwed it up.
But there is a reason why Andy Reid picked Mahomes and not Watson.
That’s a difference maker too.
Seems pretty simple to me.
Or does this mean I get to start making things up?
I saw TK coming out of a massage parlor with DeOily one and both of them were walking bowlegged. How's that for a start of just making crap up?
This is gonna be really entertaining.
We dont know that about BOB, I sure would've liked to have found out.
Yep, Reid knows QB's.
CloakNNNdagger
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Agree. I doubt O'Brien would have been willing to change the terminology of his ED offense like Reid did to accommodate Mahomes. Also, when it comes to the protection calls and all the LOS adjustments, Mahomes mentioned he didn't start getting comfortable reading the defenses until his 3rd year?
Don't get me wrong. Mahomes is a great talent. However, Reid doesn't get enough credit for how he tailored that offense to Mahomes' skillset and allowed him to play without over complicating the game. Anyone who thinks it would have been "plug and play" with O'Brien and the Texans would have similar results is delusional. Coaching matters.
BTW, does anyone know if any young QBs who entered the draft recently are making OL protection calls? I bet there are few because NFL coaches need these young QBs playing sooner rather than later and try not to add another layer of complexity to the game.
By yr 4 your franchise QB should be very proficient at making OL calls.
TexansBull
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Very tempting.
Do you live in Houston or Austin?
Didn't you read the article that I provided the link to where it reported that few QB in the NFL make the line call; most teams have the Center doing it. And this goes back years and years.
I'll provide a link when you provide a link.
I'm not the only one who remembers it. You remember defending yourself back then. What y'all were arguing about back then, that's what I'm talking about
Mahomes grew up with money. Less likely money was going to change him.
I'm not going to get overly excited about something I know isn't true. I'm not even going to ask you for proof.
Here's a couple more links for you:
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As Line’s Choreographer, Center Holds Key to Success (Published 2007)
Crouched and holding a football between his legs, a center in the N.F.L. faces crucial split-second decisions before each snap.
Rivers and Peyton Manning; those old dogs didn't make the line call.
Is there a right thread, anymore? Please point me to that one, I can't find it.
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TexansBull
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So it’s the money’s fault?
I heard someone else blaming it was the lack of the father figure.
Maybe he and R.Kelly should get together and find out what caused it.
May end up happening eventually.
You're right. It's probably both, & a couple of other things.
Too late
For what?
badboy
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wow...you think saying this is in same realm as TK saying you said something on this MB? I thought we weren't supposed to attack another poster even if you were making it up. This is what I meant when I've said you cross the line.
Mr teX
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Lol and you’re right there with DW4 and Big Ben … and that box of rocks if you actually believe half of the nonsense you spew on this MB …& on the daily too. You’re not even making any sense anymore TBH I just love to troll you so you can continue to provide the comedic gold by making yourself look like like an idiot.
truth is I used to believe you knew a little something about ball. I’m pretty well convinced now that you know nothing….that is except how to twist yourself into a pretzel trying to argue something that has been CLEARLY demonstrated in both film, advanced stats and everything else that you sir are wrong as wrong as 2 left shoes…enjoy your day .
too easy
You certainly dont get my sense of humor.
I was just making a point as to what could happen if we allow posters to make false statements.
badboy
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Oh I get it.. just don't think it was funny. As you said you are just pleasing yourself..
Mr teX
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bro he’s a lost cause..like the guy he so vehemently loathes. It’s pretty clear he doesn’t know what the hell he’s talking about. You could provide him stats that run contrary to his narrative until you’re blue in the face, he’ll never take his L.
TexansBull
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See? That’s how things snowball.
One accusation turns into another.
Btw- They still have you banned from Chuck E Cheeses right? It is my weekend with the kids and just wanted to make sure it was safe.
sandman
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You know, I'm giving Steel credit on this one for acknowledging the data. Wasn't a win-lose situation. Assessing QB style can be subjective. He knows in his head what he sees about Watson's style of play and doesn't like it. And he thinks Watson and Mahomes have virtually nothing in common from a style of play perspective. IMO, he has a hard time articulating the specifics in terms of tangibles and stats. But he recognized the "running around and making plays" wasn't as black and white as he thought it was, while not conceding his overall position. We don't agree on much, and this topic definitely is his button pusher, but I've never considered him devoid of any reasoning ability.
Lol and you’re right there with DW4 and Big Ben … and that box of rocks if you actually believe half of the nonsense you spew on this MB …& on the daily too. You’re not even making any sense anymore TBH I just love to troll you so you can continue to provide the comedic gold by making yourself look like like an idiot.
truth is I used to believe you knew a little something about ball. I’m pretty well convinced now that you know nothing….that is except how to twist yourself into a pretzel trying to argue something that has been CLEARLY demonstrated in both film, advanced stats and everything else that you sir are wrong as wrong as 2 left shoes…enjoy your day .
too easy
Instead of attacking me prove where I was wrong about the QB's you listed.
I think your Pervert is about as good as McNabb was. Good, but not good enough. You disagree with me and that's fine. I actually like talking ball with you and agree with you on most things except the Pervert. If you think that I know nothing because of my stance that I've been very consistent with (Meaningless stats vs substance, which I pointed out during last season) then what does that say about your knowledge when I agree with you on the majority of other things.
I also have never stooped to your level of calling you a racist like you've called me without ever getting to know me, because I disagree with you about your favorite Pervert. I'm also loving whatch your stance in Sexual Predator thread and cant wait for this to go to trial. I hope it does go to trial because a trial should be pure comedic gold, whether your Pervert is convicted or not. Although I'm pretty sure you wont find the humor in the trial.
You might want to read the last sentence which is the point of that post.
BTW, the ability to laugh is a gift. You should try it out sometimes.
Texansballer74
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Again Watson was top 3 in throwing the underneath stuff. I don’t know why we don’t want to bring that up whenever we’re talking about this.
OptimisticTexan
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My reply has nothing to do with Watson’s off the field issues.
Now that that’s out of the way, if the Browns or Bears had taken Mahomes…..does KC trade up for Tribusky, Watson or stand pat?
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I thought you guys would realize by now stats don't matter to some of these yahoos around here.
Hurts was rated higher statistically than Dak last night according to what I read on twitter.
CloakNNNdagger
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Florio keeps on writing about Watson when there's nothing to write about.
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Could other teams re-enter the Deshaun Watson conversation?
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Could other teams re-enter the Deshaun Watson conversation?
Posted by Mike Florio on September 28, 2021, 7:30 PM EDT
Stats like this don’t argue the allegations made.
he can be the best deep ball thrower in the league. He can lead the league in dump offs... & still play hero ball & suk at it.
Show me a stat where DeShaun Watson leads the league in 12 play drives then you’ve got an argument.
I’d like to see that stat. Hurts threw 2 INTs
Problem with sustained drive is you need a running game, too.
There are a few things that might support the thesis though.
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The Texans had about the same number of pass attempts than the opponents, but 149 fewer rushing attempts (with a lower ypc).
Despite that, the average drive for the Texans were still not far off from the opponents: 5.96 plays vs 6.5.
Average drive time was only 27 seconds less (2.41 vs 3.08)
Or are those decimal?
If so, it's a little over half a minute less.
The Texans had 55 punts vs 51 for the opponents.
That's not bad at all, considering the D was near the bottom.
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A couple more stats that support Watson is the DVOA and EYards by Football Outsiders.
These stats aim to measure how effective a QB is on a per play basis.
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Watson ranked 5th in both, just as his overall ranking.
texanhead08
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Just watching clips of his show on youtube Florio is going to jizz all over himself if Watson ends up in Miami.
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