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Davis Mills vs rookie QBs
- Thread starter Dejaview
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Number19
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Solid improvement over Cleveland. Now a long week before the next game and also against a top rated defense.
Number19
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For two games his passer rating is 80.9, with 270 yds, 2 TD's and 1 INT
That's better than Winston's 21.7
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TheRealJoker
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Justin Fields certainly underwhelmed against the Browns.
6-20 68 yards
12 rushing yards
Sacked 9 times (!!!)
Our 3rd round pick is looking like a better value with each rookie QB first rounder’s next performance it seems.
6-20 68 yards
12 rushing yards
Sacked 9 times (!!!)
Our 3rd round pick is looking like a better value with each rookie QB first rounder’s next performance it seems.
Carr Bombed
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Mr. #1 hasn't actually been lighting it up either. I believe Mills has all the physical tools to be a franchise guy. Whether he develops or not remains to be seen, but you can say that about everyone in this class, and no one has been clear head and shoulders above the next. Given that, I'd rather have Mills at 3.67. He's not your typical 3rd round QB prospect, usually they lack either arm talent or size.. He checks all the size/strength boxes. I hope he develops and I hope we have the right staff to develop him.
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TxnsJuggernaut1
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I don't think you can read too much into rookie and young quarterbacks struggling when they have absolutely no offensive line to protect them.
Trubisky and Foles didn't just struggle last season simply because they aren't very good. I hope Justin Fields has a lot of intestinal fortitude because if not his career could be over rather quickly. Not because he does not have the talent but due to trying to lead a bad Bears offense and losing confidence.
I saw some positive things from DM against the Panthers so that's something. It could get quite ugly next Sunday but hopefully we see some promise in his play.
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TheRealJoker
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That’s a fair point but Nagy is going on his 4th season as the Bears HC.
Carr Bombed
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He'll be fired at the end of the season.. No way they'll trust him with another highly drafted QB. In this housing market, I'd already be looking to list. He gone..
Dejaview
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I’d take Lawrence in a heartbeat
TheRealJoker
Hall of Fame
Agreed unless the defense can bail him out again to get to the playoffs.
I think the biggest miss in QB evaluation is coaching/fit.
Look at Josh Rosen. All it took was one season to make him damaged goods when he went to a horrible situation. Then his new coaching staff found a better player/fit for them and his confidence was shattered. Maybe he’ll be rehabilitated as a backup for a stint but it don’t look good.
Dejaview
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Betting that a third round QB with 6 quarters of football will look bad playing against a team I think will be in the SB is about as brave a prediction as banking on Billie Jean King beating a roller skate wearing Bobby Riggs. Wonder what the odds are on that one.
Carr Bombed
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Outside of a 5th year option his selection status brings little more than heavy investment.. I haven't seen much of a advantage and that advantage won't mean squat if he keeps throwing interceptions like hot cakes.
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Carr Bombed
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In this day and age, a broken hip, blown out knee, and a following stroke..
Dejaview
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On Josh Allen?
Carr Bombed
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No.. Billie Jean King.
Carr Bombed
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Mr. #2 Zach Wilson.. 19 of 35 for just 160 yards, 2 interceptions and, 0 touchdowns. ouch. 
CloakNNNdagger
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Texans believe rookie QB Davis Mills ‘can handle a lot more’
Sep 26, 2021
Davis Mills stood tall in the pocket and delivered a strike on an accurate sideline pass to Brandin Cooks, processing fast to hit the veteran wide receiver.
Mills’ 30-yard pass to Cooks led to a red zone touchdown pass to uncovered slot receiver Anthony Miller.
Although the Texans lost, 24-9, to the Carolina Panthers, Mills’ performance was encouraging enough against the NFL’s top-ranked defense that coach David Culley indicated the volume of the playbook will be expanded for the rookie quarterback going forward.
After Mills completed 19 of 28 passes for 168 yards, one touchdown and no interceptions for a 95.5 passer rating as the replacement for injured quarterback Tyrod Taylor, the offense is likely to open up in his second NFL start next week against the Buffalo Bills.
“Going into this ballgame, obviously, with Davis and it being his first game getting a full-time start, is that we wanted to make sure that we kind of kept it to the vest in what we were doing for him,” Culley said. “I think what we end up doing is, we got to the point that we probably felt like we kind of went too far with trying to protect him and just kind of doing what we feel like we need to do.
“What we did find out coming out of this game is that he can handle a lot more than what we felt like, because of the way he handled himself in this ballgame. Moving forward, we’ll just get back to doing the things that we had started doing in that first game and a half when Tyrod was our starting quarterback.”
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Sep 26, 2021
Davis Mills stood tall in the pocket and delivered a strike on an accurate sideline pass to Brandin Cooks, processing fast to hit the veteran wide receiver.
Mills’ 30-yard pass to Cooks led to a red zone touchdown pass to uncovered slot receiver Anthony Miller.
Although the Texans lost, 24-9, to the Carolina Panthers, Mills’ performance was encouraging enough against the NFL’s top-ranked defense that coach David Culley indicated the volume of the playbook will be expanded for the rookie quarterback going forward.
After Mills completed 19 of 28 passes for 168 yards, one touchdown and no interceptions for a 95.5 passer rating as the replacement for injured quarterback Tyrod Taylor, the offense is likely to open up in his second NFL start next week against the Buffalo Bills.
“Going into this ballgame, obviously, with Davis and it being his first game getting a full-time start, is that we wanted to make sure that we kind of kept it to the vest in what we were doing for him,” Culley said. “I think what we end up doing is, we got to the point that we probably felt like we kind of went too far with trying to protect him and just kind of doing what we feel like we need to do.
“What we did find out coming out of this game is that he can handle a lot more than what we felt like, because of the way he handled himself in this ballgame. Moving forward, we’ll just get back to doing the things that we had started doing in that first game and a half when Tyrod was our starting quarterback.”
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Dejaview
Wahoo Sabi
That says a lot about the Texans scrappy loss
Nagy's playcalling certainly didn't do Fields any favors and I'm not a fan of Fields. Essentially Fields didn't stand a chance.
TxnsJuggernaut1
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ROFLMAO..You got me on that.
TxnsJuggernaut1
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4 seasons too long.
OptimisticTexan
2024 / Rebuilding Block 4 After Playoffs / Texans
Does any NFL QB stand a chance without an OL? You could include questionable HC and play calling as well.
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This reminds me of a football game I had on my old Macintosh plus back in the 80’s.
TexansBull
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No. That’s why trading Tunsil right now doesn’t make sense. A rookie needs protection to learn. Which either this year or next or the one after we will probably have a rookie learning or drafting one.
welsh texan
You may say I’m a dreamer but I’m not the only one
He looks similar to how Watson looked under Kelly in that they might as well punt on 1st down for 2 or 3 series then get into some rhythm, then go back to the 3 and outs.
Im intrigued that Taylor wasn’t suffering this same issue; I guess because he isn’t playing any hero ball and has the vet savvy to find the pass and take what the D is giving him.
There’s been some nice plays but also a lot of wtf moments where he clearly has a different read to his receiver.
The worry is whether his development curve can outpace the rate at which his weaknesses are exposed on tape.
We’ve seen young QBs fail that arms race plenty of times. It isn’t pretty to watch.
Im intrigued that Taylor wasn’t suffering this same issue; I guess because he isn’t playing any hero ball and has the vet savvy to find the pass and take what the D is giving him.
There’s been some nice plays but also a lot of wtf moments where he clearly has a different read to his receiver.
The worry is whether his development curve can outpace the rate at which his weaknesses are exposed on tape.
We’ve seen young QBs fail that arms race plenty of times. It isn’t pretty to watch.
Dejaview
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Reminds me of that vibrating metal football field game where you would set up the O and D with plastic linemen and a QB and RB and a felt football, turn it on, then they would bounce around everywhere but straight.
austins23
Hall of Fame
Trubisky, Foles, and Dalton all struggled because Nagy sucks. Fields may get “Carr’ed” with this guy.
austins23
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see my post above. I’m not a Fields fan either but he doesn’t stand a chance with this coach.
I like what I’ve seen from Mills so far. Dude has some huevos.
sandman
Brexit Advisor
I'm too distracted by his neck to judge his huevos...
Dejaview
Wahoo Sabi
Maybe we can distract the opponents D. We will take DM’s neck, TT’s beard, DW’s left eye and Roy Lopez’s hair and combine them in one QB.
Dejaview
Wahoo Sabi
All this and look at his NFL debuts…Browns, Panthers and now the Bills. Talk about baptism by fire. Never looks rattled. Checks that intangible box. With TT out I couldn’t imagine watching a journeyman QB now. he could be huge in our turnaround.
maverick512000
Hall of Fame
Depends, did Riggs place a bet on King winning?
maverick512000
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Around here we refer to that as “BoB’s playbook”
SeriousShizzle
Rookie
is he retarded yet after them head hits?
Yet, a Foosball table more accurately depicted our best means of scoring..... .
80 kicks per game, but come away only scoring 3.
TheRealJoker
Hall of Fame
Kind of reminds me of Nathan Peterman’s debut in the NFL… but without the historically bad confidence shattering performance.
It reminds me of the Atari "X & Os" football game in arcades, where they had to roller balls.
Texans Drives:
1. Punt - 3 plays, 4 yards, 1:26
2. Punt - 5 plays, 17 yards, 3:06
3. Punt - 6 plays, 31 yards, 5:00
4. Punt - 3 plays, 2 yards, 1:52
5. Touchdown - 7 plays, 64 yards, 1:12
-- half --
6. Punt - 10 plays, 39 yards, 4:23
7. Punt - 3 plays, -5 yards, 2:05
8. Field Goal - 8 plays, 40 yards, 3:35
9. Downs - 5 plays, 19 yards, 1:36
TxnsJuggernaut1
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It seems Davis Mills confidence won't be shaken easily. That should mean that he will develop accordingly. I hope so.
TxnsJuggernaut1
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Right.... @welsh texan comment about might as well punt on 1st down doesn’t make sense. The Panthers punted just as often.