Maybe their buying into the media also
Really? I didn’t peg you as a media conspiracy type.
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Maybe their buying into the media also
NO, but maybe be honest and say we mhave some challenges in front of us etc...maybe attempt to answer the question asked. Simple **** like who hired Lovie, answer: how great a coach he was and how lucky were are to have him. How about a follow up: How lucky we are to have him? He bombed in his last two jobs?!? Why do you say we're lucky to have him?
Bo Porter
Really? I didn’t peg you as a media conspiracy type.
Or maybe ( I doubt it ), the media has made all the DW4 wants out stuff up based on a few criptic tweets. Has Watson ever said publicly that he wants out?
Come on, JB. Really? We're all going to wake up in September and realize it was all a bad dream?Maybe their buying into the media also
Highly doubt JMc would get barred, he's too much of an institution in these parts, nationally too.“He’s a great coach and if you don’t think so that’s your opinion. Oh and by the way you might want to take a good look around the room because this is the last time you’ll be in it.”
You have a funny idea that reporters are there to get to the truth and hold their feet to the fire. These aren’t investigative journalists these are local sports writers and if the team blackballs them from access then they might as well move.
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David Culley: "We are very committed to Deshaun [Watson] as our quarterback"
Mixed signals are coming from one of the most mixed-up teams in pro sports.profootballtalk.nbcsports.com
press conference will post houstontexans.com at some point
I'm not. I don't believe what I'm typing, just playing a bit of @thunderkyss
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David Culley suggests Texans may be willing to trade Deshaun Watson
Officially, the Texans' stance toward disgruntled quarterback Deshaun Watson is that they're keeping him, not trading him.profootballtalk.nbcsports.com
podcast...Huddle and flow at some point today
I'm not. I don't believe what I'm typing, just playing a bit of @thunderkyss
Even after all these years, @thunderkyss still makes me do a double take.
Come on, JB. Really? We're all going to wake up in September and realize it was all a bad dream?
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NFL: Huddle and Flow
Podcast · [object Object] · Steve Wyche and Jim Trotter call on their experiences as two black men with 40-plus years combined covering the NFL to bring listeners unfiltered, enlightening, and entertaining conversations about important issues involving the league both on and off the field. Steve...open.spotify.com
Every answer he gave concerning Watson was along the lines of he doesn't know about any chatter or news outside the bldg concerning DW4, but inside the bldg fairy dust is blowing and he's a member in good standing with the Houston Texans! It's all good in H-Town!
I was disappointed in the questions and lack of any follow-up, none of his answers were ever challenged. I expected more from McClain.
Highly doubt JMc would get barred, he's too much of an institution in these parts, nationally too.
Look, don't take me so literal, I'm not saying to use my words, soften it up, but get an answer to your question, don't let him off the hook. And if he answers as if Lovie is the best thing since sliced bread, just ask what's he done lately to justify that.
NY Sports reporters wouldn't have let that go!
I'd rather of had Wade anyway, but hell, justify your guy!
From I've seen and heard I like him too. Personality wise kinda the opposite of O'brien who reeked of being an A-hole and bully-type guy however this guy is cool, likable and easy going with a positive attitude.I like the guy and the energy he brings, the dude always seems so happy. Hard not to like a guy that just puts off such positive energy. I can see why players like him, already like him better than butt chin.
Yeah then Culley is a Bo Porter wrapped in a Dave campo sprinkled with Hugh Campbellslol Yep. I figured it was Hugh Campbell 2.0 to keep it football related.
I like the guy and the energy he brings, the dude always seems so happy. Hard not to like a guy that just puts off such positive energy. I can see why players like him, already like him better than butt chin.
Only 14? Quite the optimist, DB.That happy face will become annoying when he tries to spin positive platitudes for a 14 loss season.![]()
I like the guy and the energy he brings, the dude always seems so happy. Hard not to like a guy that just puts off such positive energy. I can see why players like him, already like him better than butt chin.
Of course they will have him dead last. This is his first head coaching job and to add to the fire. A bad team with no talent. According to the media and 90% of our fan base. Lol
Dammit…..what happened to wait and see? Ducking crystal ball and tarot card reading crowd sure think their visions are spot on. I’m comfortable in the wait and see crowd.
Dammit…..what happened to wait and see? Ducking crystal ball and tarot card reading crowd sure think their visions are spot on. I’m comfortable in the wait and see crowd.
Sacrificial lamb
Hope I'm wrong.
Does it matter? Will this job ever be attractive to a good coach as long as Kyle is in charge?
While a agree that this job will never be attractive as long as Kyle is in charge since he doesn’t exist, I don’t think this organization will have attracting any coach based on the current ownership of the Texans. I believe NC is going to be that good.There will be a young asst coach like Kubiak/McVay that will willing to take the HC job. Caserio just has to get the right guy.
Norg?While a agree that this job will never be attractive as long as Kyle is in charge since he doesn’t exist, I don’t think this organization will have attracting any coach based on the current ownership of the Texans. I believe NC is going to be that good.
Is there a middle ground for fans (short for fanatics) of a team message board?Dammit…..what happened to wait and see? Ducking crystal ball and tarot card reading crowd sure think their visions are spot on. I’m comfortable in the wait and see crowd.
Is there a middle ground for fans (short for fanatics) of a team message board?
Why can't we just have our opinions and argue them w/o the labels? "Doom and gloom", "negative Nancy's", "crystal ball readers"... I know some are more negative than others but to cover a blanket over anyone that doesn't ascribe to a certain way of thinking about the team and the direction it's going...at least respond to those statements you disagree with. And here's one...
The article I posted is naturally an op-ed. That said, the author made a good point about Culley. Forget about the age factor. His track record as a QB/WR coach isn't good. He was Baltimore's passing game coordinator last season and as such the Ravens were dead last in that category.
Culley's resume is weak. It really doesn't take a deep dive to see that. So why did they hire him? If it was only because he was the antithesis of O'Brien, mission accomplished. But is that a good reason to hire someone to lead your team?
I'm hoping he turns out to be a better head coach than he was a position coach. If he is, I'll be happily surprised.
Man Houston football fans are by far the worst. I use to argue that we weren’t. But after all this nonsense that’s going, these jokers want the McNairs to sell the team. They’re not purchasing any tickets. So my question is would it be best if we just didn’t have a professional football team? The Astros was in the dump for a many of years. But their fan base stayed loyal.
I don't care about what others think of my low expectations. I've watched decades of pro football and my own analysis is based on NFL history. There is no amount of koolaide or pom pom waving or bobblehead giveaways that's going to make me less objective.
There is no need to get emotional, but folks get so wrapped up in their sports teams that it becomes part of their identity, so any perceived slight becomes a personal insult. I detached myself from all of that emotional connection after 35-3, but to each his/her own. I've got real world problems to deal with and this mediocre sports team is not one of them.
It's just entertainment at the end of the day, and nobody needs to get butthurt if I don't think that it'll be much of an entertaining product in 2021. I don't care if folks are 100% sunshine about it, either. I don't feel the need to belittle them for it.
The Astros had a LOT of empty seats during those multiple 100+ loss seasons. We'd get the cheap tickets and sit anywhere we wanted. Nobody was there except maybe 5000 fans.
As far as Houston football fans, some of us are just tired of 6+ decades of crappy owners. We had a brief respite when it was perceived that Bob McNair might be different, but it turns out it was meet the new boss, same as the old boss in many fundamental meddling ways.
This fanbase has 100% supported this franchise for two decades with consecutive season ticket sales. This is the first year that the Texans have struggled to sell season tickets. It has nothing to do with fans and everything to do with a seriously dysfunctional and inept front office and owner.
I don't care about what others think of my low expectations. I've watched decades of pro football and my own analysis is based on NFL history. There is no amount of koolaide or pom pom waving or bobblehead giveaways that's going to make me less objective.
There is no need to get emotional, but folks get so wrapped up in their sports teams that it becomes part of their identity, so any perceived slight becomes a personal insult. I detached myself from all of that emotional connection after 35-3, but to each his/her own. I've got real world problems to deal with and this mediocre sports team is not one of them.
It's just entertainment at the end of the day, and nobody needs to get butthurt if I don't think that it'll be much of an entertaining product in 2021. I don't care if folks are 100% sunshine about it, either. I don't feel the need to belittle them for it.
The Astros had a LOT of empty seats during those multiple 100+ loss seasons. We'd get the cheap tickets and sit anywhere we wanted. Nobody was there except maybe 5000 fans.
As far as Houston football fans, some of us are just tired of 6+ decades of crappy owners. We had a brief respite when it was perceived that Bob McNair might be different, but it turns out it was meet the new boss, same as the old boss in many fundamental meddling ways.
This fanbase has 100% supported this franchise for two decades with consecutive season ticket sales. This is the first year that the Texans have struggled to sell season tickets. It has nothing to do with fans and everything to do with a seriously dysfunctional and inept front office and owner.
To be honest, I wish I still have the same passion for local sports teams that I had as a young man. I feel that that youthful exuberance was a positive aspect in my life. I took pride in knowing not only the batting order of the Houston Astros on any given day but also the successes and setbacks of some of the farm team talent. I enjoyed sitting down on a Saturday to "scout" potential Oilers/Texans draft picks.I don't care about what others think of my low expectations. I've watched decades of pro football and my own analysis is based on NFL history. There is no amount of koolaide or pom pom waving or bobblehead giveaways that's going to make me less objective.
There is no need to get emotional, but folks get so wrapped up in their sports teams that it becomes part of their identity, so any perceived slight becomes a personal insult. I detached myself from all of that emotional connection after 35-3, but to each his/her own. I've got real world problems to deal with and this mediocre sports team is not one of them.
It's just entertainment at the end of the day, and nobody needs to get butthurt if I don't think that it'll be much of an entertaining product in 2021. I don't care if folks are 100% sunshine about it, either. I don't feel the need to belittle them for it.
The Astros had a LOT of empty seats during those multiple 100+ loss seasons. We'd get the cheap tickets and sit anywhere we wanted. Nobody was there except maybe 5000 fans.
As far as Houston football fans, some of us are just tired of 6+ decades of crappy owners. We had a brief respite when it was perceived that Bob McNair might be different, but it turns out it was meet the new boss, same as the old boss in many fundamental meddling ways.
This fanbase has 100% supported this franchise for two decades with consecutive season ticket sales. This is the first year that the Texans have struggled to sell season tickets. It has nothing to do with fans and everything to do with a seriously dysfunctional and inept front office and owner.
Exactly the first year. So instead of completely jumping off ship. Meaning wanting the team out of Houston. That's why I asked will it best not to have a team period. I'm not talking about you DB because you've expressed your position. But good grief some of these fans are unappreciated.
20 yrs of bad ownership wiil do that to a fanbase.
I’ve seen worst from other organizations. And it hasn’t been 20 straight years of that.
I’ve seen worst from other organizations. And it hasn’t been 20 straight years of that.
I know there are some people who think if you do this, or you do that, you’ll win a championship.Just because the Texans have made the playoffs a few times doesn't mean ownership hasn't been bad. When you're comparing yourself to bad franchises and saying things like, well atleast we aren't as bad as the NYJ, then you know ownership isn't really committed to bringing a championship to Kirby.
I know there are some people who think if you do this, or you do that, you’ll win a championship.
But I think history shows it’s not that easy. Anyone who says they know, don’t.
The Patriots did it one way, the Steelers another. The Cowboys another. But I’ll take odds none of those teams will win a championship in 2021 even though their front offices & coaching staffs are full of people who have & therefore “know” how.
imo, comparing our team to the dozens of other teams doesn’t show a lack of commitment. Spending the money they’ve spent on Osweiler, to get rid of Osweiler, Watson, Tunsil, and a bunch of other players is evidence to their commitment.
but comparing our team to perennial losers just acknowledges who we are. I’m not delusional about this team. I didn’t become a Texans fan because they were the most winningest team in the league.
in all honesty, I became a fan of this team because of what this board was like in 2006. I wasn’t a fan before then.
The Texans have the following history even while selecting FO personnel, coaches, players, and spending money:
GM & FO Personnel: Bad
HC & Position Coaches: Mediocre to Bad
Money & Contracts: Bad
Players: Mediocre to Bad
Pretty much sums up the failures for the past 20+ years.
I like the wholesale changes for 2021 and only hope there is a serious plan of attack from the Caserio team going forward. I’m under no delusions for the upcoming season but only have a desire to see a competitive team with no quit on the field. 2021 should be an 18 week Pre-Season with players trying to secure spots for the 2022 roster.
2022 should finally be an exciting point for Texans fans since the team will possess their picks, should add a decent bounty of additional picks via trades, see some breathing room with the cap to pursue FA’s, and the players that secured spots on the roster.
Because sometimes Olson was doing exactly what GM O'Brien was telling him to do, that's why. Using history as a guide, many contracts Olson has negotiated over the years as a Texan were some of the more salary cap friendly contracts negotiated in the NFL. In that regards Olson was an MVP. That's also why the Atlanta Falcons snapped him up rickytic. It's one thing to be Bob McNair's salary cap specialist and it's something totally different to be Cal McNair/Jack Easterby/Bill O'Brien/Nick Caserio's salary cap specialist.Add bad ownership to the list at #1 and bad GM/FO personnel at #2 and it explains why all of the rest of the bad things are on the list. BTW, I agree about bad contracts, that falls on the GM and Olson. I cant believe some here are clamouring for Olson. LMAO
Because sometimes Olson was doing exactly what GM O'Brien was telling him to do, that's why. Using history as a guide, many contracts Olson has negotiated over the years as a Texan were some of the more salary cap friendly contracts negotiated in the NFL. In that regards Olson was an MVP. That's also why the Atlanta Falcons snapped him up rickytic. It's one thing to be Bob McNair's salary cap specialist and it's something totally different to be Cal McNair/Jack Easterby/Bill O'Brien/Nick Caserio's salary cap specialist.
Houston has always been a front running fan base. The Texans get back to a competitive franchise the fans will support them better than ever. Like they did with the Luv ya Blue teams of the late '70's. Houston had been a sucky franchise until Bum was hired, then him getting fired and the later 35-3 so disillusioned the fan base that they have never recovered. Moving the team cost more fans. Getting a new team gave some hope for awhile, but 20 years of suck has sucked even that out of most
edit: Sorry but it sounded better in my head... there's just no way to put 40 years of frustration in a few words