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thunderkyss

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How many exception to the rule comparisons do we have to try to find before we admit that maybe we could have found more qualified candidates?
Exception to the rule?

I don't think you understand the argument.
 

xtruroyaltyx

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Steve Smith thinks Culley is an awful talent Evaluator:







I don’t like it. Hopefully he’s learned since then to at least give guys a chance and not arrogantly dismiss them. Also, it kind of shows why John Harbaugh is a pretty good coach.
 
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Steve Smith thinks Culley is an awful talent Evaluator:







I don’t like it. Hopefully he’s learned since then to at least give guys a chance and not arrogantly dismiss them. Also, it kind of shows why John Harbaugh is a pretty good coach.
This has been posted before, I can't respect Steve Smith's thoughts on this as he said himself that Harbaugh sent him because "They need a body." That is hardly a ringing endorsement and Smith didn't even realize he said it and how it sounds. I don't know if Culley will be good or not but of 27 years in the NFL if Smith is the only one with anything bad to say, and sounds kind of stupid when he does it, then I call that pretty impressive.
 

xtruroyaltyx

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This has been posted before, I can't respect Steve Smith's thoughts on this as he said himself that Harbaugh sent him because "They need a body." That is hardly a ringing endorsement and Smith didn't even realize he said it and how it sounds. I don't know if Culley will be good or not but of 27 years in the NFL if Smith is the only one with anything bad to say, and sounds kind of stupid when he does it, then I call that pretty impressive.
I did a light search and didn't see it so I posted it.

I played organized sports for a long time...I've heard "they need a body" tons of times and never once has it been said as a slight. I've heard it said to the last man on the depth chart and to starters. It simply means they are short on people and need bodies.

Not sure if Culley will be good either, but this story is not a good look. And we don't know if smith is the only one with anything bad to say. We just know he is one person who was asked about it publicly and he spoke about it.
 
I did a light search and didn't see it so I posted it.

I played organized sports for a long time...I've heard "they need a body" tons of times and never once has it been said as a slight. I've heard it said to the last man on the depth chart and to starters. It simply means they are short on people and need bodies.

Not sure if Culley will be good either, but this story is not a good look. And we don't know if smith is the only one with anything bad to say. We just know he is one person who was asked about it publicly and he spoke about it.
Fair I suppose though I still don't think "They need a body." when talking about sending someone to the pro bowl is a ringing endorsement either. As far as what people have said about Culley several have come out, without prompted, and praised him including Reid, Harbaugh and Hill that he is a great hire. I mean if you want to get down to it Gronk has said he retired because of BB and the patriot way and Brady hasn't exactly had nice things to say about him either.
 

steelbtexan

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His agent isn't the only one prompting Watson to dig in...there are former and current NFL players telling him to play hardball. It sounds like some, maybe even many of those telling him that are current Texans players.

It sounds like, from some of the things I've read and heard, there's a lot of disgruntled players on this team and Watson is their megaphone. I doubt seriously he is the only guy that wants out of this organization if big changes don't occur at the top. Of course, it doesn't matter what they want.
These players will soon be getting their wishes.

4-12
 

steelbtexan

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For those who have issue with Culley being in the league for 27 years before being offered a HC job, never being offered an OC job... what do you think of Jim Caldwell. Did he deserve to be offered a HC job when Indy offered him the job?

He came into the league in 2001 & became The Ravens OC in 2013. That's only 12 years. Not at all like Culley's 27 years. But, would he have been Baltimore's OC if he wasn't their interim OC in 2012? It's not like he was interviewed & offered the interim OC job. They fired their OC & promoted Caldwell from QB coach.

The off thing, to me is that he was the HC at WF from 1993 to 2007.

Don't you think it's odd, that Jim Caldwell was a HC for 7 years, comes to the NFL & spends 12 years as a position coach before "lucking" into an OC job.

Consider Bill O'Brien was an OC for one year at the college level, but became an OC in 4 years in the NFL. & I don't think anyone would argue Caldwell had a much better offensive mind than Bill O'Brien.
Yes Caldwell deserved the job.

Caldwell is a good HC. I don't think he's a championship level HC. I wanted him to be the next Texans HC of all of the finalists, because of his work with QBs.
 

steelbtexan

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I did a light search and didn't see it so I posted it.

I played organized sports for a long time...I've heard "they need a body" tons of times and never once has it been said as a slight. I've heard it said to the last man on the depth chart and to starters. It simply means they are short on people and need bodies.

Not sure if Culley will be good either, but this story is not a good look. And we don't know if smith is the only one with anything bad to say. We just know he is one person who was asked about it publicly and he spoke about it.
Well, Culley is an Aggie
 

thunderkyss

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Hopefully he’s learned since then to at least give guys a chance and not arrogantly dismiss them.
Personally I try not to pass judgment when hearing only one side of the story. But, from the day Steve Smith took his first snap in the NFL, I was against him be because of his arrogant ghetto attitude.

Guys got talent & I liked watching him play, but not as much as I liked seeing him get ejected because he couldn't beat Dunta Robinson.

So there's no doubt in my mind, Culley probably told him to mosey on back to the ST squad for some reason unrelated to any "talent" assessment at all.
 

thunderkyss

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Yes Caldwell deserved the job.

Caldwell is a good HC. I don't think he's a championship level HC. I wanted him to be the next Texans HC of all of the finalists, because of his work with QBs.
My point about Caldwell is his career pretty much followed the same pattern as Culley's. Coached a long time. Finally got an OC position as an interim assignment.

If the Ravens didn't fire somebody, chances are we never would have heard of Jim Caldwell & he never would have won a Super Bowl
 

steelbtexan

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My point about Caldwell is his career pretty much followed the same pattern as Culley's. Coached a long time. Finally got an OC position as an interim assignment.

If the Ravens didn't fire somebody, chances are we never would have heard of Jim Caldwell & he never would have won a Super Bowl
Caldwell was wth Dungy in Tampa and came with him to Indy as QB coach. (Tom Moore was the OC.) When Dungy retired Caldwell tppk over as HC and made the SB his rookie yr. Then won a division the next yr. Followed by the suck for Luck yr after which he was fired. Then he did a great job as a QB/OC coach getting the best out of Flacco and then as a HC working with Stafford. There's no doubt he is a good HC that works well with QB's. He wasn't my 1st choice (Saleh) but I was hoping out of the final 3 candidates he would've gotten the job. Oh well water under the bridge and I'm glad Culley is finally getting a chance and is a newly minted millionaire.
 

JB

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Personally I try not to pass judgment when hearing only one side of the story. But, from the day Steve Smith took his first snap in the NFL, I was against him be because of his arrogant ghetto attitude.

Guys got talent & I liked watching him play, but not as much as I liked seeing him get ejected because he couldn't beat Dunta Robinson.

So there's no doubt in my mind, Culley probably told him to mosey on back to the ST squad for some reason unrelated to any "talent" assessment at all.
Smith was a rookie voted in as a ST player, not as a WR. And was a punk then and forever more
 

banned1976

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The good news is, it doesn't matter if David Culley is awful at evaluating talent because he's not going to have any control over personnel decisions. None. Zero. Zilch. And if he ever thinks he does, he will be unceremoniously relieved of his duties and Josh McCown will take over.

Over/under 30 games before Culley is fired? I can honestly see (no, expect) the Texans losing 30 games in a row under the new Peoples Church of Cal Gump.
 

whodknee

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The good news is, it doesn't matter if David Culley is awful at evaluating talent because he's not going to have any control over personnel decisions. None. Zero. Zilch. And if he ever thinks he does, he will be unceremoniously relieved of his duties and Josh McCown will take over.

Over/under 30 games before Culley is fired? I can honestly see (no, expect) the Texans losing 30 games in a row under the new Peoples Church of Cal Gump.
I doubt Culley is House Hunting.
 

DocBar

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The good news is, it doesn't matter if David Culley is awful at evaluating talent because he's not going to have any control over personnel decisions. None. Zero. Zilch. And if he ever thinks he does, he will be unceremoniously relieved of his duties and Josh McCown will take over.

Over/under 30 games before Culley is fired? I can honestly see (no, expect) the Texans losing 30 games in a row under the new Peoples Church of Cal Gump.
Right now the Texans are giving me flash backs to the Oilers, pre and post Bum. Devoid of talent, a no-name HC and ownership that seems to not have a clue. Makes me almost whimsical for the Jerry Glanville era.
 

michaelm

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Personally I try not to pass judgment when hearing only one side of the story. But, from the day Steve Smith took his first snap in the NFL, I was against him be because of his arrogant ghetto attitude.

Guys got talent & I liked watching him play, but not as much as I liked seeing him get ejected because he couldn't beat Dunta Robinson.

So there's no doubt in my mind, Culley probably told him to mosey on back to the ST squad for some reason unrelated to any "talent" assessment at all.
Adding to your point, Smiths entire career was basically founded on disproving slights toward him and his ability (read size/height/stature), some of the slights real and I'd wager some he only perceived as slights.
 

Texian

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The good news is, it doesn't matter if David Culley is awful at evaluating talent because he's not going to have any control over personnel decisions. None. Zero. Zilch. And if he ever thinks he does, he will be unceremoniously relieved of his duties and Josh McCown will take over.

Over/under 30 games before Culley is fired? I can honestly see (no, expect) the Texans losing 30 games in a row under the new Peoples Church of Cal Gump.
Culley is going to play who Caserio tells him to play.
 


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