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Texans Search Committee

SnakeEyes said:
Johnson and Dungy...
Mr Blunt and Mr Nice (and blunt) IF, a BIG IF Cal listens to them...we should have a good HC and GM. What are the odds of that? Cal has made fair enough moves and a good share of stupid ones. Guess we will have to see what he picks this time: Good or Stupid
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Blunt? Did someone say blunt? Thorn are you out there? I got your back buddy!
 
Mangler said:
Most of the league is now a strong believer of Eric Bieniemy. Doesn’t mean Watson or any other QB, for that matter, is pounding the table for him. Watson has never demanded that his next HC must be, and only be a minority, as some here have baselessly claimed. There sure are some goofy MFrs up in here, lol.
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attack the goofy MFr's posts not the goofy MFrs or I will put you in a timeout! :foottap:

:whip::spit:
 
Earl34 said:
Agree. It's a leap and a plunge into crazy talk. Reid also spoke favorably about Bienemy too. Many objective observers say Bienemy is due for a HC job. So, even if the majority of people say the Texans should hire him and the Texans hire him, does that mean Watson hired the minority he wanted?
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Uh... My head is spinning. I am in the minority in that I want the head coach to be more in charge of who he gets To play. I know that is contrary to a lot of people's view.

while I love Kevin Costner's role and I enjoy playing GM I want the general manager to go and get the players that will fit into the head coach's way of playing. GM controls purse strings as in cap but their agenda in getting best players as needed should be the same.
 
badboy said:
Uh... My head is spinning. I am in the minority in that I want the head coach to be more in charge of who he gets To play. I know that is contrary to a lot of people's view.

while I love Kevin Costner's role and I enjoy playing GM I want the general manager to go and get the players that will fit into the head coach's way of playing. GM controls purse strings as in cap but their agenda in getting best players as needed should be the same.
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That’s the old school way General Managing. These players are watching what these NBA players are doing and saying, “ I want that type of control!” In a few years these NFL players will start doing the exact thing. It starts with the money. When the NBA players wasn’t getting paid these ridiculous amount mega contracts, they weren’t controlling these teams. Now that they are getting paid big time, they’re having more input on who they wanted and who they wants to be traded too. Look at what James Harden is doing now. They broke the bank for him, brought in players he wanted and gave up their future draft picks to accommodate his demands. Now he wants to be traded to either the Nets or 76ers in quest of forming a super team. The NFL better watch out lol
 
Thorn said:
It doesn't matter who they pick, half the people who are following all this aren't going to like it anyway. Honestly, I don't know enough or care enough to follow all the candidates so whoever the hell they hire I'll just wait on them for next season. Which is all we can do anyway, to see what sort of team the new administration can scrape together with free agents and low draft picks. Hopefully it's enough to help our franchise QB do his job.

They offered me the job, but I turned it down on account of it sounded like it was going to be actual real work. And I don't want anything to do with that kind of sh!t.
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Texansballer74 said:
That’s the old school way General Managing. These players are watching what these NBA players are doing and saying, “ I want that type of control!” In a few years these NFL players will start doing the exact thing. It starts with the money. When the NBA players wasn’t getting paid these ridiculous amount mega contracts, they weren’t controlling these teams. Now that they are getting paid big time, they’re having more input on who they wanted and who they wants to be traded too. Look at what James Harden is doing now. They broke the bank for him, brought in players he wanted and gave up their future draft picks to accommodate his demands. Now he wants to be traded to either the Nets or 76ers in quest of forming a super team. The NFL better watch out lol
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I get your point of view I just disagree. The NFL as a whole is not the NBA. There are enough old-time owners that remember the bidding wars and they are not going to allow the players That type of control.
 
badboy said:
Lol, note that I said he would be getting rid of people not bringing people in! Not to rehash old news that has been beat to death but if I remember correctly Ed Reed was a Bob McNair choice. He did send his private airplane to pick up Mr Reed I believe.
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True,

Ed Reed was suggested to McNair from AJ.

No, I dont have a link.
 
mussop said:
Did he really?
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You'll see.

McNair has bought in fully on DW4 and DW4's going to get whateve r he wants. He wants Bienemy. The lost decade.

Best we can hope for is Bienemy doesn't want the job. What are the odds that Bienemy ends up more like Nagy/Pederson than Reid?
 
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From what I understand, Bienemy is a little rough around the edges and he’ll let you know what’s what in very “colorful” language.

Given this already about Bienemy, sports radio 610 was saying that if the Texans want to bring in Dorsey as GM, it then becomes unlikely that Bienemy would be interested in the HC gig here b/c of how Reid and Dorsey fell out with each other when Dorsey was the GM in KC; IOW’s, Bienemy is likely to tap Reid and ask him whether he should take the Houston gig and work with Dorsey.
 
Mr teX said:
From what I understand, Bienemy is a little rough around the edges and he’ll let you know what’s what in very “colorful” language.

Given this already about Bienemy, sports radio 610 was saying that if the Texans want to bring in Dorsey as GM, it then becomes unlikely that Bienemy would be interested in the HC gig here b/c of how Reid and Dorsey fell out with each other when Dorsey was the GM in KC; IOW’s, Bienemy is likely to tap Reid and ask him whether he should take the Houston gig and work with Dorsey.
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Mike Borgonzi seems like a better fit for EB
 
steelbtexan said:
So you want the Chiefs south?

I hope you're as hard on them as you were on Pats South. Reid doesn't have a great track record of AC's becoming great HC's either.
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First of all, I was never hard on them being Pats South. Don't say stupid things.

Second of all, I suggested Borgonzi being the best fit for EB. Learn to read.

My preference is Ed Dobbs for GM, then see where the chips fall for a HC
 
steelbtexan said:
You'll see.

McNair has bought in fully on DW4 and DW4's going to get whateve r he wants. He wants Bienemy. The lost decade.

Best we can hope for is Bienemy doesn't want the job. What are the odds that Bienemy ends up more like Nagy/Pederson than Reid?
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If there is one thing that we have learned from the litany of failed Belichick assistants is the system does not make a head coach.
 
Mr teX said:
I mean...ok. But little is known about this dude other than he currently works for the chiefs as a personnel guy. Aside from his connection to the current chiefs coaching staff, what makes him a better fit than any other candidate in your opinion?
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Talking specifically about EB, Mike has a history with him and has a good track record.
 
Texansballer74 said:
That’s the old school way General Managing. These players are watching what these NBA players are doing and saying, “ I want that type of control!” In a few years these NFL players will start doing the exact thing. It starts with the money. When the NBA players wasn’t getting paid these ridiculous amount mega contracts, they weren’t controlling these teams. Now that they are getting paid big time, they’re having more input on who they wanted and who they wants to be traded too. Look at what James Harden is doing now. They broke the bank for him, brought in players he wanted and gave up their future draft picks to accommodate his demands. Now he wants to be traded to either the Nets or 76ers in quest of forming a super team. The NFL better watch out lol
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NBA players aren't asserting control because they get paid more, that doesn't even make sense. They're asserting control because NBA front offices are more and more keenly aware that you need stars to win in that league while LeBron awoke those stars to their own influence.

The money has come their way, along with their influence, because of their value.

The NFL doesn't have quite the same star-power structure except for QB's. It's a much more team oriented game with much shorter, and in flux, careers. Even then I can't see too many QB's who would have the staying power and influence to command roster moves. Brady's basically trying to do so now and he's really a 1 of 1 type star in the league.
 
OptimisticTexan said:
Research, read and post opinion.....then I'll read your assessment and add an emoji to indicate my feelings. I wrote a very nice post about Eliot Wolf maybe a season or two back and if you wish, you may start there....if you don't like my 3rd party opinion, please post your personal opinion when you have time. My emoji trigger finger is eagerly awaiting your input.
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People don't want to read, study or learn. They want you to post one blanket link for very fast reading. They don't want to have to do any leg work. Saw it yesterday, someone wanted a link posted to some stuff about Watson. I had to laugh seeing Google will pull up multiple articles about it and NFL.com has one in the news area. But, too much effort lol

Your article (post) on Wolf was good information.
 
Mollywhopper said:
NBA players aren't asserting control because they get paid more, that doesn't even make sense. They're asserting control because NBA front offices are more and more keenly aware that you need stars to win in that league while LeBron awoke those stars to their own influence.

The money has come their way, along with their influence, because of their value.

The NFL doesn't have quite the same star-power structure except for QB's. It's a much more team oriented game with much shorter, and in flux, careers. Even then I can't see too many QB's who would have the staying power and influence to command roster moves. Brady's basically trying to do so now and he's really a 1 of 1 type star in the league.
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You completely missed my point.
 
SnakeEyes said:
People don't want to read, study or learn. They want you to post one blanket link for very fast reading. They don't want to have to do any leg work. Saw it yesterday, someone wanted a link posted to some stuff about Watson. I had to laugh seeing Google will pull up multiple articles about it and NFL.com has one in the news area. But, too much effort lol

Your article (post) on Wolf was good information.
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That was me and I asked because the post referred to something that directly disputed other things that have been described and talked about (with links) before. So I asked for a reference to what the person was talking about.
 
SnakeEyes said:
People don't want to read, study or learn. They want you to post one blanket link for very fast reading. They don't want to have to do any leg work. Saw it yesterday, someone wanted a link posted to some stuff about Watson. I had to laugh seeing Google will pull up multiple articles about it and NFL.com has one in the news area. But, too much effort lol

Your article (post) on Wolf was good information.
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I've posted links a bajillion times over the years when I've made a claim.

That's the stadard. Make a claim and be prepared to back it up with evidence/facts.

Not assert something as fact and expect everyone else to do your work for you.
 
amazing80 said:
Talking specifically about EB, Mike has a history with him and has a good track record.
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right, I get the chiefs connection..but track record? Track record Of what? The only thing I could find is that he’s supposedly the guy who found Tyreke Hill...but that was from Wikipedia so take it for what it’s worth. If that’s the extent of his track record, well that’s not really a track record at all.
 
Mr teX said:
right, I get the chiefs connection..but track record? Track record Of what? The only thing I could find is that he’s supposedly the guy who found Tyreke Hill...but that was from Wikipedia so take it for what it’s worth. If that’s the extent of his track record, well that’s not really a track record at all.
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the guy has been promoted six times in 10 years and had a hand in building the current chiefs roster.
You could make your claim about any first time GM who will get promoted. We don’t know the details of their actual role.
 
SnakeEyes said:
People don't want to read, study or learn. They want you to post one blanket link for very fast reading. They don't want to have to do any leg work. Saw it yesterday, someone wanted a link posted to some stuff about Watson. I had to laugh seeing Google will pull up multiple articles about it and NFL.com has one in the news area. But, too much effort lol

Your article (post) on Wolf was good information.
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Just read and listened to another interview.....get this, Alonzo Highsmith was being discussed as a stand alone GM candidate. He’s another guy who’s described as having a keen eye for talent.
 
Mollywhopper said:
I've posted links a bajillion times over the years when I've made a claim.

That's the stadard. Make a claim and be prepared to back it up with evidence/facts.

Not assert something as fact and expect everyone else to do your work for you.
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Just read some articles and come up with your own opinion. You’re making this so difficult on yourself.
 
OptimisticTexan said:
Just read some articles and come up with your own opinion. You’re making this so difficult on yourself.
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No I'm not. I merely asked for you to back up your asserted claim.

It's perfectly normal.

I've done it. Lots of people do it. Some can't.

And like I said, if you can't that's ok. Just admit.
 
Thorn said:
The only payroll I'm on is being paid for by all yall. Just keep paying those taxes every month, thank you very much. :lol:
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Lol.
Texansballer74 said:
That’s the old school way General Managing. These players are watching what these NBA players are doing and saying, “ I want that type of control!” In a few years these NFL players will start doing the exact thing. It starts with the money. When the NBA players wasn’t getting paid these ridiculous amount mega contracts, they weren’t controlling these teams. Now that they are getting paid big time, they’re having more input on who they wanted and who they wants to be traded too. Look at what James Harden is doing now. They broke the bank for him, brought in players he wanted and gave up their future draft picks to accommodate his demands. Now he wants to be traded to either the Nets or 76ers in quest of forming a super team. The NFL better watch out lol
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Well said.
 
steelbtexan said:
You'll see.

McNair has bought in fully on DW4 and DW4's going to get whateve r he wants. He wants Bienemy. The lost decade.

Best we can hope for is Bienemy doesn't want the job. What are the odds that Bienemy ends up more like Nagy/Pederson than Reid?
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So in other words you’re just assuming that’s the case?
 
Texansballer74 said:
Did you ever expect anyone of these owners to fork out the kind of contract Mahomas and Watson received?
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The 2018 Green Bay report said NFL income $8.1 billion. Owners understand concept of golden goose. I do not know what a golden goose eat but evidently the NFL is aware. We often focus on the Mahomes and Watson type contracts. If the NFL can't handle them, they will not last long.
 
steelbtexan said:
You dont think McNair has bought fully in on DW4 and will give him the HC of his choosing?
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I think McNair has bought in to finishing the GM job they couldn't finish last year and all parties involved are in lock step with each other. And with this group it's a buddy plan deal. It will be done! The rest is a charade and a continuing burlesque known as the Houston Texans. Me thinks the Houston Texans could be 4th or 5th of the 7 possible teams on Bienemy's list. Just thinking out loud here but I'm guessing most potential head coaches would be allergic to Jack Easterby and maybe a lesser degree Cal McNair.
 
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Hervoyel said:
That is such a Houston thing to happen that I had to find my password, log back in, and laugh loudly in emoji

:spit:

Only a Houston team could put together a Blue Ribbon committee to search for the team's next HC/GM and end up with someone selected to it denying they were on it. That's Fricken Glorious!
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Speedy said:
Man, this franchise becomes more and more of a joke by the second. The committee that isn’t a committee, the mysterious character coach that has everyone in the building walking on eggshells, how TF did it get so pathetic?
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Texian said:
I think McNair has bought in to finishing the GM job they couldn't finish last year and all parties involved are in lock step with each other. And with this group it's a buddy plan deal. It will be done! The rest is a charade and a continuing burlesque known as the Houston Texans. Me thinks the Houston Texans could be 4th or 5th of the 7 possible teams on Bienemy's list. Just thinking out loud here but I'm guessing most potential head coaches would be allergic to Jack Easterby and maybe a lesser degree Cal McNair.
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@ArlingtonTexan posted this news Tuesday... https://www.texanstalk.com/threads/texans-search-committee.115477/page-2#post-3112062
from a piece by Florio

In response to the report that the Texans have formed a five-person advisory committee to assist the formal search committee in its effort to find a new G.M. and head coach, the Texans say that it’s not actually a committee.
“The word ‘committee’ is being misused,” a Texans spokesperson told PFT. “They are individual advisors.”
The advisors, per the team, are operating on a voluntary basis, with no contracts or compensation for their time.
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profootballtalk.nbcsports.com

Texans: Team is relying on individual advisors, not a committee

In response to the report that the Texans have formed a five-person advisory committee to assist the formal search committee in its effort to find a new G.M. and head coach, the Texans say that it's not actually a committee.
profootballtalk.nbcsports.com profootballtalk.nbcsports.com
 
Hervoyel said:
That is such a Houston thing to happen that I had to find my password, log back in, and laugh loudly in emoji

:spit:

Only a Houston team could put together a Blue Ribbon committee to search for the team's next HC/GM and end up with someone selected to it denying they were on it. That's Fricken Glorious!
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Cal's definition of a committee is people he has called on his phone. Thinking outside the box here, if perspective coaches were to call the same people on Cal's call list(committee) for advice about the Texans job and Cal McNair, what do think their advice would be? Keep looking?
 
JB said:
@ArlingtonTexan posted this news Tuesday... https://www.texanstalk.com/threads/texans-search-committee.115477/page-2#post-3112062
from a piece by Florio



profootballtalk.nbcsports.com

Texans: Team is relying on individual advisors, not a committee

In response to the report that the Texans have formed a five-person advisory committee to assist the formal search committee in its effort to find a new G.M. and head coach, the Texans say that it's not actually a committee.
profootballtalk.nbcsports.com profootballtalk.nbcsports.com
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The info’s out there, it only becomes a story or talking point when the talking heads get ahold of it.

Florio’s clown ass with the help of the local sports media seems to be the guy fanning the flames on this whole Easterby Texans FO thing.

Me thinks a few folks hewas getting inside infoare either gone or are now out of the loop.
 
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powda said:
I really liked Bienemy for a bit and i still don't hate him just...

I don't want a coach who was carried by a mega superstar qb. Look how many ne coaches fizzled without Brady. I want coaches who can directly point to their system for success even if it means they had average qbs. I want gms who can find that superstar qb and actually land talent .500 in the 2nd and 3rd round.

Here's a novel concept, mix the 2.
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I have a feeling that the GM is coming from NE... Nick Caserio, Cal was after him before and risked tampering charges for him. Seeing he is in a new deal that now says he can leave at anytime...it just makes sense for Cal to get him. It would not have too much impact on HC seeing he will know Watson's imput is vital to Cal. And say what you want but Cal is not going to tell Watson "Nope, I don't want him" he is going to get or try to get anyone Watson wants.
 
Texian said:
Cal's definition of a committee is people he has called on his phone. Thinking outside the box here, if perspective coaches were to call the same people on Cal's call list(committee) for advice about the Texans job and Cal McNair, what do think their advice would be? Keep looking?
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I agree. AJ is probably helping with ideas. But, past that... not sure if anyone else is interested. As Dungy said...he gave advise but is not on the committee.

He could have been read a list and said yes or no to any of them or all and then the call was over. That could be hours or 5min.
 
SnakeEyes said:
I agree. AJ is probably helping with ideas. But, past that... not sure if anyone else is interested. As Dungy said...he gave advise but is not on the committee.

He could have been read a list and said yes or no to any of them or all and then the call was over. That could be hours or 5min.
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Dungy himself conceded that the extent of his involvement was not limited to just that 1 call...it is an ongoing advisory role. And I presume that to mean that Cal will be able to reach out to him, and the others again as needed during this process once he has narrowed his list.

why folks are making such a big deal about this and 1 damn word is absurd. It’s a big decision...1 the guy hasn’t made himself before and it’s incumbent of the man to take in as much info to inform and educate himself so as to make a good sound decision. I liken it to someone who has recently hit the lotto when you find out just how many friends and family you never knew you had.

In this case, Cal’s probably got so many folks in his ear about who he should hire or “take a look at” it’s a bit overwhelming. Hell, just from listening and reading all the HC and GM experts on the radio and on this website, I’m overwhelmed for him.
 
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