Brandin Cooks to the Texans

[OptimisticTexan]

Why do you have to make a decision? You're Cal McNair and the money printing press is still going full steam. You can keep OB and Watson, OB because then you don't have to do any work and Watson because those seats stay filled and those jerseys fly off the shelf.

If folks claim that OB and Watson cannot come together and/or coexist....then a decision will have to be made. Since we all have strong opinions on the matter, I'd like to read the choice made by other TT members. Remember, can't fire bother nor can you keep both.....just decision as to who stays and who exits stage left.

 

[dream_team]

Why do you have to make a decision? You're Cal McNair and the money printing press is still going full steam. You can keep OB and Watson, OB because then you don't have to do any work and Watson because those seats stay filled and those jerseys fly off the shelf.

If all Cal cared about is making money, like many in here claim, then he should be focused on winning and growing the fan base.

Rich guys are rich by figuring out how to continuously grow their wealth. They never settle.

To increase the value of the Texans, you need to grow the fan base. To grow the fan base, you need to win. Or if you're the Jaguars, keep playing international games.

 

[steelbtexan]

Too funny. Do you realize that regardless of the subject, you mention Watson more than the people you claim are Watson only or JIC fans?

If a chef copies a great cookbook and can buy his own ingredients that doesn't automatically makes him a great chef. I actually agree with you. It's the guy running the system that is the problem and his name is Bill O'Brien.

LOL

Not gonna ever admit DW4's not all that even if a 2nd yr guy that hasn't played is better at running basically the same system affter 4 yrs and the fact that the 4 yr guy has better weapons around him than the 2nd yr guy.

I'm sure the Mob will blame BOB but at some point the question will be asked, is DW4 all that?

 

[steelbtexan]

If folks claim that OB and Watson cannot come together and/or coexist....then a decision will have to be made. Since we all have strong opinions on the matter, I'd like to read the choice made by other TT members. Remember, can't fire bother nor can you keep both.....just decision as to who stays and who exits stage left.

Both go and a fresh start happens. But I would definitely not waste more yrs with DW4 hoping someday he gets it. (This after 3 going on 4 yrs)

 

[steelbtexan]

If all Cal cared about is making money, like many in here claim, then he should be focused on winning and growing the fan base.

Rich guys are rich by figuring out how to continuously grow their wealth. They never settle.

To increase the value of the Texans, you need to grow the fan base. To grow the fan base, you need to win. Or if you're the Jaguars, keep playing international games.

If thing only worked this way.

PSL's/TV contracts/Merchandise contracts, this is a cash cow. The fans in the stands are the owners pocket change.

 

[Earl34]

LOL

Not gonna ever admit DW4's not all that even if a 2nd yr guy that hasn't played is better at running basically the same system affter 4 yrs and the fact that the 4 yr guy has better weapons around him than the 2nd yr guy.

I'm sure the Mob will blame BOB but at some point the question will be asked, is DW4 all that?

What are the stats of this 2nd year guy? Are you predicting what will happen again?

Will 2020 be the year the training wheels finally come off Tim Kelly?

Tim Kelly was named the OC for the Texans before the 2019 season started, yet O’Brien only let him lead the meetings and be part of the game planning on offense. (According to online articles) O'Brien, being the control freak that he is, was still the man at OC, HC, and GM and Kelly didn’t...

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[OptimisticTexan]

Both go and a fresh start happens. But I would definitely not waste more yrs with DW4 hoping someday he gets it. (This after 3 going on 4 yrs)

So you're keeping OB for a season 7?

 

[steelbtexan]

Texans fans are pain freaks. They would rather suffer for another 5 years without a franchise quarterback. That is why they're so damned to trade yet another key component to this teams success.

Who says it has to be 5 yrs before they find a franchise QB? They aren't going to win a championship with DW4 so what's the point in keeping him around another 5 yrs. I realize fear of the unknown paralyzes some people.

 

[steelbtexan]

What are the stats of this 2nd year guy? Are you predicting what will happen again?

Will 2020 be the year the training wheels finally come off Tim Kelly?

Tim Kelly was named the OC for the Texans before the 2019 season started, yet O’Brien only let him lead the meetings and be part of the game planning on offense. (According to online articles) O'Brien, being the control freak that he is, was still the man at OC, HC, and GM and Kelly didn’t...

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I was talking about if Stidham does well.

 

[steelbtexan]

Spot On???

You do realize maverick just said two big things that I thought you disagreed with.

1. The problems are with BOB's system.
2. There's nothing wrong with Deshaun Watson.

This whole time, you've been touting the exact opposite.

1. There's nothing wrong with BOB's system.
2. Deshaun will never win a SB, regardless of HC.

I didn't get that from his post.

What I got from his post was DW4/BOB are a bad fit and we have to live with it because neither one of them are going anywhere for atleast the next 2 yrs.

 

[steelbtexan]

Why do you have to make a decision? You're Cal McNair and the money printing press is still going full steam. You can keep OB and Watson, OB because then you don't have to do any work and Watson because those seats stay filled and those jerseys fly off the shelf.

Quoted for truth.

 

[Earl34]

NVM. Edited to help this thread back on topic.

 

[dream_team]

Sorry that I'm helping derail the thread, so to get back on topic...

Anyone here pay attention to the Rams last season? The stats show that Brandin Cooks fell out of favor in that offense. He played less snaps than Cooper Kupp and Robert Woods. He also got SIGNIFICANTLY less targets than Kupp & Woods, almost half to be exact. The Rams acquired him to be their #1, he had a good 2018 season, so why the huge drop off in usage?

 

[dream_team]

I didn't get that from his post.

What I got from his post was DW4/BOB are a bad fit and we have to live with it because neither one of them are going anywhere for atleast the next 2 yrs.

About 99% of TT believe that DW4/BOB are a bad fit... no one is arguing that, nothing new there.

The reasons why they're a bad fit, though, was the relevant part of maverick's post.

 

[DBCooper]

About 99% of TT believe that DW4/BOB are a bad fit... no one is arguing that, nothing new there.

The reasons why they're a bad fit, though, was the relevant part of maverick's post.

 

[steelbtexan]

I hope I'm wrong and think these moves were a step in the right direction. Hopefully one of 2 things happen and DW4 can prove me wrong.

1. DW4 actually learns how to play the QB poition and changes the way he's played the position his whole life.

2, His playground style will be successful enough to win a championship now that he's got faster WR's and a very good slot guy.

We can hope for the best while acknowledging that it's probably not going to happen.

 

[TheKDog]

About 99% of TT believe that DW4/BOB are a bad fit... no one is arguing that, nothing new there.

The reasons why they're a bad fit, though, was the relevant part of maverick's post.

There has never been a QB who has been a good fit with O'Brien.

 

[Mr teX]

About 99% of TT believe that DW4/BOB are a bad fit... no one is arguing that, nothing new there.

The reasons why they're a bad fit, though, was the relevant part of maverick's post.

bad fit........in the eyes of the fan base which quite frankly isn't even relevant considering:

1.) BoB is the only fit in the NFL DW4 has ever had.
2.) DW4 is still balling out and is considered 1 of the best young qbs in the game. Contrary to what many in here believe, he ain't just doing that all by himself. This ain't Dan Reeves and Micheal Vick where Reeves just sent Vick out there with the football and told him to go git'er done.

The only reason DW4 hasn't achieved more acclaim in the NFL is b/c there just has been guys that have been better......... & not b/c they have the better coaches..........but b/c they as players have just been better. No shame in that considering that 1 of those guys was drafted a few slots ahead of him and was considered a better passer period.... and the other had to have the offense designed around his flaws as a passer....See where that gimmicky offense has gotten him in the playoffs though...0-2.

 

[maverick512000]

If all Cal cared about is making money, like many in here claim, then he should be focused on winning and growing the fan base.

Rich guys are rich by figuring out how to continuously grow their wealth. They never settle.

To increase the value of the Texans, you need to grow the fan base. To grow the fan base, you need to win. Or if you're the Jaguars, keep playing international games.

Great theory but one problem. Cal didn't make his money he inherited it. Now don't get me wrong I don't think he's dumb or even lazy but I also don't know that he has that business sense and killer instinct his father had. Besides, from the Texans point of view we are winning. Made the playoffs almost every year since OB has been here and last year made it as far as we ever had into the playoffs and lost to the future SB champs. We may not be happy with it but you can't say the Texans haven't been winning.

 

[steelbtexan]

Sorry that I'm helping derail the thread, so to get back on topic...

Anyone here pay attention to the Rams last season? The stats show that Brandin Cooks fell out of favor in that offense. He played less snaps than Cooper Kupp and Robert Woods. He also got SIGNIFICANTLY less targets than Kupp & Woods, almost half to be exact. The Rams acquired him to be their #1, he had a good 2018 season, so why the huge drop off in usage?

Nope Woods has always been Goff's WR1 and Kupp has been Goff's security blanket. I hope Cobb can become DW4's security blanket but the ball is spread around more.

The drop off in usage was because the Rams 1. used more 12 personnel 2. The routes were shortened.

All of this was done to mask injured/bad OL play. Kinda like what the Texans did when Davenport/Lamm were the OT's.

I'm sure glad that the Texans solved that riddle.

 

[Texanmike02]

For YEARS, most all on this board have wailed about not having a franchise level QB and now want to consider that he should be traded. What sort of insanity is that? What makes anyone think we could just turn around and get another franchise level QB any time soon? Remember how long it took to find this one? If you don't have that QB in this league, you are destined to suck until you do. And don't give me that crap about bad coach or gm so get rid of your franchise QB that thought process is idiotic. With BOB it's like a bad meal, this to shall pass and when it does, you will very much want to have your franchise QB on hand and not be waiting to find one.

 

[steelbtexan]

Who says it has to be 5 yrs before they find a franchise QB? They aren't going to win a championship with DW4 so what's the point in keeping him around another 5 yrs. I realize fear of the unknown paralyzes some people.

TB/Earl dont like my opinion on DW4.

Y'all are just going along with the heard, good thing is finally this is the yr we truly find out where DW4's level of play is this yr.

It probably wont be Atl good or Tampa bad. Somewhere in the middle. I just hope DW4 can consistently play at an above avg level especially in the playoffs. The weapons (If healthy are there) No more of his 10 good games 7 bad games we saw last yr.

 

[dream_team]

Nope Woods has always been Goff's WR1 and Kupp has been Goff's security blanket. I hope Cobb can become DW4's security blanket but the ball is spread around more.

The drop off in usage was because the Rams 1. used more 12 personnel 2. The routes were shortened.

All of this was done to mask injured/bad OL play. Kinda like what the Texans did when Davenport/Lamm were the OT's.

I'm sure glad that the Texans solved that riddle.

That makes sense to me. Not encouraging, though, that Cooks is a rather one-dimensional receiver.

 

[steelbtexan]

What are the stats of this 2nd year guy? Are you predicting what will happen again?

Will 2020 be the year the training wheels finally come off Tim Kelly?

Tim Kelly was named the OC for the Texans before the 2019 season started, yet O’Brien only let him lead the meetings and be part of the game planning on offense. (According to online articles) O'Brien, being the control freak that he is, was still the man at OC, HC, and GM and Kelly didn’t...

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I think Stidham threw 4 passes last yr. (I could be wrong but he didn't throw many passes.) I'm not predicting anything. I'm just saying if Stidham does well (I consider 12-15 well for a rookie QB) and DW4 continues to regress like he did the last 5 games of the season, what do you do and how long do you wait for DW4 to get it.

I wouldn't consider if DW4 fails that this to be a reflection on BOB/Kelly. It's simply the NFL figured out what DW4 likes to do and DW4 wasn't able to adjust his game.

 

[steelbtexan]

That makes sense to me. Not encouraging, though, that Cooks is a rather one-dimensional receiver.

He runs 9 routs/slants/comebacks. He really ran all types of routes when he was with the Saints/Pats.

 

[Mr teX]

Sorry that I'm helping derail the thread, so to get back on topic...

Anyone here pay attention to the Rams last season? The stats show that Brandin Cooks fell out of favor in that offense. He played less snaps than Cooper Kupp and Robert Woods. He also got SIGNIFICANTLY less targets than Kupp & Woods, almost half to be exact. The Rams acquired him to be their #1, he had a good 2018 season, so why the huge drop off in usage?

What happened is the same thing that happened to Gurley that also happened to Johnson in Arizona. They phase these high cap hit guys out b/c they no longer wanna pay them; In the Rams case specifically it is well known they were going to be in cap hell after paying Gurley, Donald and Cooks in 2018... then they turned around and extended Goff in 2019. They needed relief to be able to have a shot at keeping Ramsey so to justify releasing these guy, they poison the market & phase them out so as to make it look like they're done.

 

[TheKDog]

If all Cal cared about is making money, like many in here claim, then he should be focused on winning and growing the fan base.

Rich guys are rich by figuring out how to continuously grow their wealth. They never settle.

To increase the value of the Texans, you need to grow the fan base. To grow the fan base, you need to win. Or if you're the Jaguars, keep playing international games.

Ownership is as incompetent as Obrien. How can Cal identify success when he's never been successful?

 

[TheKDog]

Sorry that I'm helping derail the thread, so to get back on topic...

Anyone here pay attention to the Rams last season? The stats show that Brandin Cooks fell out of favor in that offense. He played less snaps than Cooper Kupp and Robert Woods. He also got SIGNIFICANTLY less targets than Kupp & Woods, almost half to be exact. The Rams acquired him to be their #1, he had a good 2018 season, so why the huge drop off in usage?

Clearly he's not the same anymore. They took a huge cap hit to get rid of him

 

[maverick512000]

I didn't get that from his post.

What I got from his post was DW4/BOB are a bad fit and we have to live with it because neither one of them are going anywhere for atleast the next 2 yrs.

That is what I have been saying since the start of the season when BoB survived the 51-7 fallout. Now to the other points, since a couple were so nice as to explain what I meant for me . I don't like OB's system because it does put a lot on the QB to make snap decisions and you do need a Brady or Manning style of QB. By that I don't mean a HoF per say but a QB with a quick arm and quicker mind. That has nothing to do with intelligence, its simply being able to make a snap decision and then change it on the fly. That's not something you can learn nor can be taught, you have to just be born with that ability and that's something I don't like about his system is because it does require that unteachable ability.

Now lets take Watson, first he is extremely intelligence, that is clear from looking at his college grades and listening to him talk for 5 minutes. What he doesn't have though is a steel trap mind, to me Watson over thinks things. I keep coming back to his combine report but one of the things it said was that at Clemson the offense was designed not to give Watson to many options so he didn't have to overthink things. If Watson doesn't have a chance to overthink things he can make magic, that's why you have those Houdini moves after its all gone south, but if you ask him to pick from 20 different plays and he only has 20 seconds to pick and let the rest of the offense know what he picked its not going to work.

So final verdict on why I think OB and Watson are such a bad fit its because you could not get two different styles if you tried. OB system does work to a certain level, that's why guys like Osweiler and Hoyer had their best seasons here but it is completely wrong in all ways for a QB like Watson. Overall Watson is head, shoulders and torso above Osweiler and Hoyer but the system is so wrong for him its not even funny any more. It's like trying to make a car go with a jet engine, yes in theory its still an engine and it does what a car engine does, makes something move, but its just wrong at all levels.

 

[steelbtexan]

What happened is the same thing that happened to Gurley that also happened to Johnson in Arizona. They phase these high cap hit guys out b/c they no longer wanna pay them; In the Rams case specifically it is well known they were going to be in cap hell after paying Gurley, Donald and Cooks in 2018... then they turned around and extended Goff in 2019. They needed relief to be able to have a shot at keeping Ramsey so to justify releasing these guy, they poison the market & phase them out so as to make it look like they're done.

This is true.

I hope you're right abou DJ. If you are right the offense will look nothing like it has in the last couple of yrs. Very dynamic.

 

[steelbtexan]

That is what I have been saying since the start of the season when BoB survived the 51-7 fallout. Now to the other points, since a couple were so nice as to explain what I meant for me . I don't like OB's system because it does put a lot on the QB to make snap decisions and you do need a Brady or Manning style of QB. By that I don't mean a HoF per say but a QB with a quick arm and quicker mind. That has nothing to do with intelligence, its simply being able to make a snap decision and then change it on the fly. That's not something you can learn nor can be taught, you have to just be born with that ability and that's something I don't like about his system is because it does require that unteachable ability.

Now lets take Watson, first he is extremely intelligence, that is clear from looking at his college grades and listening to him talk for 5 minutes. What he doesn't have though is a steel trap mind, to me Watson over thinks things. I keep coming back to his combine report but one of the things it said was that at Clemson the offense was designed not to give Watson to many options so he didn't have to overthink things. If Watson doesn't have a chance to overthink things he can make magic, that's why you have those Houdini moves after its all gone south, but if you ask him to pick from 20 different plays and he only has 20 seconds to pick and let the rest of the offense know what he picked its not going to work.

So final verdict on why I think OB and Watson are such a bad fit its because you could not get two different styles if you tried. OB system does work to a certain level, that's why guys like Osweiler and Hoyer had their best seasons here but it is completely wrong in all ways for a QB like Watson. Overall Watson is head, shoulders and torso above Osweiler and Hoyer but the system is so wrong for him its not even funny any more. It's like trying to make a car go with a jet engine, yes in theory its still an engine and it does what a car engine does, makes something move, but its just wrong at all levels.

You just described thing perfectly. The Clemson offense worked for him because it was simple. BOB's doesn't because it's not simple and DW4 still hasn't learned it after 3 yrs. (That should tell folks about DW4's learning capabilities, but it wont) What you described is why I want them to run the Baltimore offense. One read maybe 2 at the most on one side of the field and if its not there DW4 takes off running. (Like LJ did.)

This eliminates DW4 from thinking and somewhat alliviates the accuracy/anticipation issues. Bottom line is dont make DW4 learn an offense and you will be better off.

 

[steelbtexan]

About 99% of TT believe that DW4/BOB are a bad fit... no one is arguing that, nothing new there.

The reasons why they're a bad fit, though, was the relevant part of maverick's post.

The relevant part of his post was DW4 cant seem to learn the offense and this is never going to work. I dont understand why y'all want to put your eggs all in the basket of a QB that's still struggling to learn the offense after 3 yrs.

 

[badboy]

For YEARS, most all on this board have wailed about not having a franchise level QB and now want to consider that he should be traded. What sort of insanity is that? What makes anyone think we could just turn around and get another franchise level QB any time soon? Remember how long it took to find this one? If you don't have that QB in this league, you are destined to suck until you do. And don't give me that crap about bad coach or gm so get rid of your franchise QB that thought process is idiotic. With BOB it's like a bad meal, this to shall pass and when it does, you will very much want to have your franchise QB on hand and not be waiting to find one.

when you start off with an assumption that not everybody agrees with it is hard to have a discussion.

I think fried catfish is the best fish that exists. If you think it's not you probably do not want me to go on and on about how great it is. It does not have to be catfish to fill my stomach and complete that mission. Some times any fried fish can be good enough with fries, hush puppies and enough catsup to cover the fish.

 

[Mr teX]

This is true.

I hope you're right abou DJ. If you are right the offense will look nothing like it has in the last couple of yrs. Very dynamic.

I'm not predicting anything spectacular for DJ or a return to his all-pro season like some are saying he has to have to justify taking him in the trade and his cap hit. But i do believe 1400 possibly 1500 all purpose yards is well within his reach; he put up a shade under that in 2018 with a worse team.............. when he was getting the touches. I'll let you guys haggle with how you'd like to have that yardage split up but putting up those numbers last year would've landed him just outside the top 10 for all-purpose yards. For perspective on that, Our lead dog Carlos Hyde had a career year here with us and didn't sniff 1400 yards....couldn't even crack the top 40. Lamar Miller had only come close to 1400 yards once in his entire tenure here. Neither of those guy were the threat in the passing game that DJ is. MJD of NFL network predicts around 1300 total yards. 700 rush, 600 passing 10 total TD's. Even if he just puts up those numbers, that's still light years better than what Carlos Hyde did last .

 

[Mr teX]

The relevant part of his post was DW4 cant seem to learn the offense and this is never going to work. I dont understand why y'all want to put your eggs all in the basket of a QB that's still struggling to learn the offense after 3 yrs.

 

[Texansballer74]

There has never been a QB who has been a good fit with O'Brien.

Lol and we mean never.

 

[steelbtexan]

You just described thing perfectly. The Clemson offense worked for him because it was simple. BOB's doesn't because it's not simple and DW4 still hasn't learned it after 3 yrs. (That should tell folks about DW4's learning capabilities, but it wont) What you described is why I want them to run the Baltimore offense. One read maybe 2 at the most on one side of the field and if its not there DW4 takes off running. (Like LJ did.)

This eliminates DW4 from thinking and somewhat alliviates the accuracy/anticipation issues. Bottom line is dont make DW4 learn an offense and you will be better off.

Cant handle the truth can you Earl?

 

[steelbtexan]

Nice gif

Are you saying DW4 has learned the offense, because if he has the offense should look alot like the Pats offense and not an offense that nearly 1/2 of the WR targets went to Nuk.

I will say, he's going to be forced to learn the offense without Nuk and that's a good thing.

 

[Earl34]

You just described thing perfectly. The Clemson offense worked for him because it was simple. BOB's doesn't because it's not simple and DW4 still hasn't learned it after 3 yrs. (That should tell folks about DW4's learning capabilities, but it wont) What you described is why I want them to run the Baltimore offense. One read maybe 2 at the most on one side of the field and if its not there DW4 takes off running. (Like LJ did.)

This eliminates DW4 from thinking and somewhat alliviates the accuracy/anticipation issues. Bottom line is dont make DW4 learn an offense and you will be better off.

You really can't help yourself. You think everyone is like you who can't learn how to copy and paste or provide a link?

How did you turn @maverick512000 's post into Watson's inability to learn? You're too obtuse to understand the nuances of WRs and QBs being on the same page. I'm putting you on ignore. At this point, I don't know if it's trolling or stupidity. But the ignore function is the solution. Have a great day.

 

[steelbtexan]

You really can't help yourself. You think everyone is like you who can't learn how to copy and paste or provide a link?

How did you turn @maverick512000 's post into Watson's inability to learn? You're too obtuse to understand the nuances of WRs and QBs being on the same page. I'm putting you on ignore. At this point, I don't know if it's trolling or stupidity. But the ignore function is the solution. Have a great day.

Go back and reread his post.

Nuances, Nuk/DW4 had those nuances down to the point where he got almost 1/2 the WR targets. Where did those nuances get the Texans? Predictability

I'm looking forward to the ball being spread around and you want Nuk to still be a Texan. If Nuk was a Texan next yr do you think DW4 would've spread the ball around like he's going to have to this season? I dont and that's a big reason Nuk's gone and BOB had conflict with Nuk.

Nuk wanted those targets and regardless if called a different play or not DW4's 1st read was always Nuk. That's how you end up with 1 WR getting almost 1/2 of the WR targets. Change is going to happen whether you can accept it or not and DW4 is going to be forced to learn to scan the field now or he's not going to be successful.

Unlike/ignore, whatever man, just accept that times are changing down on Kirby and RS guys are being moved out.

I truly hate that you felt the need to put me on ignore. Oh well, life goes on and have a blessed/great day.

 

[DBCooper]

You’d have to be a pathetically moronic coach not to be able to succeed with Deshaun Watson.

oh wait

 

[steelbtexan]

So you're keeping OB for a season 7?

Depends on how things look next season. Can the skill position guys stay healthy? Can Kelly/Weaver rise to the occasion as rookie OC/DC's?

 

[steelbtexan]

You have to be a pathetically moronic coach not to be able to succeed with Deshaun Watson.

oh wait

He ain't that good.

10 good games 7 bad games doesn't make a franchise QB.

 

[TheKDog]

You have to be a pathetically moronic coach not to be able to succeed with Deshaun Watson.

oh wait

He's actually holding Watson back. Watson is succeeding despite O'Brien.

Imagine if he was in a real offense.

 

[Mr teX]

Nice gif

Are you saying DW4 has learned the offense, because if he has the offense should look alot like the Pats offense and not an offense that nearly 1/2 of the WR targets went to Nuk.

I will say, he's going to be forced to learn the offense without Nuk and that's a good thing.

He knows the offense dude, you don't put up the numbers he has over the last 3 years being clueless to how to run the offense. It's also well known that DW4 is a film junkie. The biggest issue for him is being able to be settled. His 1st few years the o-line had alot to do with that as he was constantly under siege. Last year, while the o-line play got much better, they still had issues with protection at times & I think the new pieces at WR and RB at times were problems as well.

 

[DBCooper]

He's actually holding Watson back. Watson is succeeding despite O'Brien.

Imagine if he was in a real offense.

I do.

 

[Mr teX]

He ain't that good.

10 good games 7 bad games doesn't make a franchise QB.

400 Total Yds and 3 TD's with no TO's against KC the eventual SB champs.....Can't ask for much more from your QB there.

 

[Texansballer74]

Haha at Watson can’t learn the offense. Too funny and dead ash wrong.

 

[Texansballer74]

You really can't help yourself. You think everyone is like you who can't learn how to copy and paste or provide a link?

How did you turn @maverick512000 's post into Watson's inability to learn? You're too obtuse to understand the nuances of WRs and QBs being on the same page. I'm putting you on ignore. At this point, I don't know if it's trolling or stupidity. But the ignore function is the solution. Have a great day.

Earl it’s just best to stroll right past it and if you do somehow read it, well just laugh.

 

[steelbtexan]

He knows the offense dude, you don't put up the numbers he has over the last 3 years being clueless to how to run the offense. It's also well known that DW4 is a film junkie. The biggest issue for him is being able to be settled. His 1st few years the o-line had alot to do with that as he was constantly under siege. Last year, while the o-line play got much better, they still had issues with protection at times & I think the new pieces at WR and RB at times were problems as well.

He certainly looked confused in the Oakland/Colina/Tampa games as well as 3 or 4 other ones throughout the season. Take the Carolina game. They used DW4's strengths against him (looking for the big play) and he still refused to take the throws to the flats. That's either a QB that doesn't know where to go with the ball or a QB that is hardheaded. Take your pick.

400 Total Yds and 3 TD's with no TO's against KC the eventual SB champs.....Can't ask for much more from your QB there.

True, without Chris Jones/Breeland/Dee Ford.