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Are Texans sitting on their hands again?
- Thread starter TripleTap
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If BO'b would have got the RBs more involved in the passing game I'd think it's possible he could have convinced Gaine that he's good on offense.
But our offense appears to be dependent on having that 2nd recieving threat be a WR.
Lamar Miller is a good receiver out of the backfield, at least he was before he got here. & Blue surprised me in a couple of games this year.
We seem to focus on what we don't got instead of making what we have work.
Yeah, I know TEs had to block. Well, put in a 6th lineman to block & put your TE into the pattern.
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Hasn't worked out well for any player sitting out the entire season that I can recall
Foreman was good last year as well, but it seems like this year OB forgot what worked and went with something new to confuse the defense. Probably confused more himself in the process.
This year?
maverick512000
Hall of Fame
Meh, haven't seen many cases where an offseason winner became a season winner as well. Teams are throwing around stupid money to try and make splashes and get their fan bases excited, I'm glad we're sitting out on a lot of that chaos and not over paying for guys that haven't shown they are worth it. That being said I do wish they would grab a few solid players in F/A for depth like maybe another WR so if Fuller goes down again Nuk isn't the only target has. Hey though if we can get our Oline to the point that the TEs can do more than block that may work itself out to. Overall I'm not ready to call this a failure two days after the no tampering period. At least wait till F/A officially starts, maybe even, and this is way out there, wait till after the draft to call it a failure.
Things are changing on Kirby?
Texecutioner
Hall of Fame
Its always felt that way.
maverick512000
Hall of Fame
I blame Rick Smith, clearly he has messed the Texans up so badly that they didn't even know they could sign players that other teams wanted. This is clearly part of his plan to get BoB fired, he truly is an evil genius.
We've seen the last two sb's have teams who were offseason winners, including one of them the actual season winner.
While still a matter of important discernment, it's not the taboo team building route it once was.
What's the Eagles cap situation right now, I don't think it's pretty.
If I were guaranteed a SB Championship I'd do it in a heartbeat.
If I believed I had a coach who could integrate a bunch of egos quickly, I might take a chance.
If I believed my owner would realize we have the wrong guy before we dig ourselves too deep hole, I'd bring it to the table.
Besides, it's not like we want to "win" free agency, just tired of losing.
maverick512000
Hall of Fame
It depends on what is counted as an off season winner. For the Pats they already had a championship team so for them to be an off season winner all they needed to do was not change to much and maybe shore up a couple of dents in their armor. I will grant you the Rams did a very quick turn around but the Rams had the benefit of some favorable drafts and, this is debatable but not a debate I care to have again, a better coaching staff. For us to be counted as a "winner" we would have had to make one of the splashy signings.
If you look at it we really haven't lost that much. Traded Badger for Gipson and Kjax will be replaced by Roby. Honestly these moves don't bother me, both of those guys were good against the run but sucked against the pass. Wasn't it just a couple of months ago we all were talking about how we could shut down the run any day of the week but put a good QB on the field and they moved the ball at will. Now we have a couple of guys that are a little better against the pass for less money. Not splashy moves but possibly overall good ones.
Me I'm waiting to see what they can do in the draft. We have a great selection of picks this year and its a deep draft on both sides of the ball. I think calling this off season a failure two days after the no tampering is just a bunch of talking heads trying to get clicks/views because they haven't had anything to talk about for 2 months and their viewership was dropping. If the draft comes and goes and we still didn't fill some holes and shore up some weak spots then I'll call it a failure.
Texecutioner
Hall of Fame
Very valid point which brings me to the point that both of those teams had great young QB's that weren't paid a whole lot just like the situation Watson is in. We're somehow the only team with a great young QB that isn't taking full advantage to win a SB while we have this nice window where the QB salary isn't sky high. We even have the money this time, and still won't make the aggressive moves to put together a crazy run. Hell, this team won like 8 straight games last season and has already shown that they could become really special, but nope!! Another standard Texans off season. Nothing to see here! Business as usual. Be careful, cautious, and don't ruffle to many feathers around the league. (Inserts the Houston Texans country song from the commercials. Lol!)
Do you ever do concise?
I don't think anyone is arguing to destroy the cap, or to be the biggest fa winner either - getting involved, while having a salary cap surplus and a rookie qb contract, is worth a bit of debate though.
maverick512000
Hall of Fame
What is about some people around here that reading more than a paragraph is so hard.
Can't speak for everyone, but I'm at work. Beyond that though, I'm willing to bet the same message that is delivered with 10,000 words can be equally, and more digestibly, delivered in far less. It's a message board, not a final exam.
Sincerely though bud, do you. Just offering a throwaway suggestion.
maverick512000
Hall of Fame
I'm at work to and if this reminds you of a final exam then your final exams were much shorter than mine were. Seriously though I use as much as I feel is needed to adequately get my points across. Sometimes that's a sentence and sometimes its a page. If its to long for you or you don't want to read them then don't. I find it just as annoying when people throw out short little posts that seem to mean nothing and add very little to the discussion.
Whatever..
xtruroyaltyx
Hall of Fame
Tbh while reading the thread I skipped over it too.
Just curious, was there anyone in particular you were looking for?
I was hoping for Bell but knew it wasn't going to happen. When news broke we were trying to land Earl Thomas I bought it & let my emotions get the best of me.
I liked the idea of Cole Beasley til I saw the price tag & figured we better stay out of that market.
Anyone in particular you had your eye on?
zshawn10
All Pro
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10:40 AM - Mar 14, 2019
"Brian Gaine not their first choice"
Packers GM first choice that was hired while in a meeting with BOB
Texans are shopping "In the clearance section of Goodwill"
Hard to justify paying Blackson 4M per.
Ripped into Texans for dumping KJo and then turning around and bringing in Verrett for a visit.
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10:40 AM - Mar 14, 2019
"Brian Gaine not their first choice"
Packers GM first choice that was hired while in a meeting with BOB
Texans are shopping "In the clearance section of Goodwill"
Hard to justify paying Blackson 4M per.
Ripped into Texans for dumping KJo and then turning around and bringing in Verrett for a visit.
Tevin Coleman at least, and maybe a second tier OL guy.
I didn't much for the top guys but I wouldn't have mind Bell. I knew that one was a long shot of happening here.
Texansballer74
The Marine
The reason why he schemed/plotted to get rid of Smith. He wants total control like Belichick
Texansballer74
The Marine
The reason why he schemed/plotted to get rid of Smith. He wants total control like Belichick
Come on Maverick it's not that serious huh. Lol
Come on Maverick it's not that serious huh. Lol
Yeah I'm gonna listen to radio dudes over crennel. I have been critical of the org but the Crennel knows what he's doing and he didn't want KJ back.
As far as Gaine not being first choice, then he was second because they didn't really interview anyone else outside of Rooney rule
I just can't not watch. I'm too much of a fan of the game in general to not watch. And, I have Deandre Hopkins in a keeper fantasy league so if nothing else I'll watch him do his thing every Sunday. I just thought we as a team were really close, and with a few really smart additions and a solid draft we could be a team that sees itself in the AFC championship game. After the way this free agency went (is going), I think we moved back towards a middle of the pack team while teams like the Browns who have aggressive and smart GM's went from the laughing stock to legitimate contenders for the next decade. It's just frustrating to see. We were right there. I can't say that now. We haven't gotten better.
leebigeztx
Keep it Movin!
Eagles
You talking about me skimming over a diatribe and after the 1st couple of paragraphs then skipping to the last paragraph while I'm working. I dont know what to tell you I have to prioritize things or get phone calls I've got to answer etc... if that offends you well.....
I guess if you read BS again & again, you start to believe it's true & start making up your own BS.
It's ok. Not your fault. There was someone here campaigning such drivel & our minds can only resis so much. Eventually, we all break.
But... let's bring it back to reality. BO'b, dastardly though he is, didn't scheme cancer & death on Mrs. Rick Smith.
The Houston Texans lose out in negotiations to the Tennessee Titans for offensive lineman Rodger Saffold.
Looks like the Texans were chasing a guard.
Looks like the Texans were chasing a guard.
Texecutioner
Hall of Fame
Beasely would be a nice piece for this offense and yes he got overpaid, but sometimes you have to pay a little more than you should for a few players here and there. No team has a perfect deal on every player. Some players they have nightmare deals, some are bargains, and other are fair market rate deals.
The only safety worth the money was Collins. The rest got way overpaid and won't be worth it. (The ones that got big contracts.) Earl Thomas will likely be the worst one after those injuries he's had. No way he's worth that much. Tyron Mathiew isn't either.
Bell?? Jets will hate that contract in two years. I'd never pay big money to a RB.
Texans really need a slot receiver. Jared Cook is available and might be a nice TE addition.
What I'd have done is traded Clowney as long as I got pretty good compensation, and I'd be packaging everything possible for Olineman around the league. I'd knock on Arizona's door and see if they still would be interested in moving Patrick Peterson. I would have picked up Kareem Hunt as a free agent the first chance I had. Browns got a huge steal and a bargain there. I wanted Brown early on at OT, but once I saw how much money he was going to get I was out of that one. Way to much money for a one year wonder.
That would take forward thinking and spending $$$$.
Those aren't hallmarks of the Texans org.
Where did you see $56Mil in guarantees?
RotoWorld says $40 mil in guarantees....
LINK
NFL Network's Tom Pelissero reports Trey Flowers' contract with the Lions is worth $90 million over five seasons.
According to Pelissero, the deal includes $40 million guaranteed. When it was announced on Monday, the deal was expected to be worth $16-$17 million per season, but Flowers ended up at $18 million per year when it was said and done. The deal makes him the top-paid defensive end in the league outside of DeMarcus Lawrence, who is set to play under the franchise tag, and puts him behind just Khalil Mack and Von Miller among edge rushers.
According to Pelissero, the deal includes $40 million guaranteed. When it was announced on Monday, the deal was expected to be worth $16-$17 million per season, but Flowers ended up at $18 million per year when it was said and done. The deal makes him the top-paid defensive end in the league outside of DeMarcus Lawrence, who is set to play under the franchise tag, and puts him behind just Khalil Mack and Von Miller among edge rushers.
From what I've heard, the franchise tag on Clowney is $15.9 mil. Talking yearly salaries, that's in the ball park, so now it's a matter of contract length and what the guaranteed part will be. Unfortunately, the word is the two sides may not be close (right now) on those pieces of the contract.
Personally, I hate the thought of giving up proven commodities for "maybes" in the draft. So I'm not a fan of trade talk.
xtruroyaltyx
Hall of Fame
I think Clowney might sit the season if he’s franchised.
maverick512000
Hall of Fame
Or phone it in so much that he might have well sit out.
He has a history of this.
If I was him I would not play on a one year deal
I thought he'd been franchised?
OptimisticTexan
2024 / Rebuilding Block 4 After Playoffs / Texans
I still think he should be traded. Texans will not pay him the money to tag him a third season and based on the current situation......they're not exactly thrilled about signing him long term. Just trade him and get it over with. If they wanted Clowney for the long term, they should've given him a new contract before it got to this.....the financial area where the Texans don't like to play.
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xtruroyaltyx
Hall of Fame
Are you saying the Texans org is cheap?
They don't have the cap room
LMAO