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Why Do I feel Disappointed For Some Reason?

markn

All Pro
He ain't going to be running the ZBS only scheme. He will use it some.

I think and disagree with how BOB used Watson last game. (See I dont agree with everything BOB does.) But he definitely took the shackles off of Watson last game. (He's getting ready for the playoffs.)

Do you expect a high or low scoring game?
I think we need to score more than 30 to have a shot.

I'm not sure about what we saw in the Jax game. I agree that there was some slightly more esoteric stuff going on with the designed runs, but he did that knowing it would generate tape for the upcoming playoffs. Maybe it's a ruse so that the Colts prepare for Watson runs whereas in actual fact the game plan will be something crazy off the wall like... Miller Up the Middle.

Only joking.

Really hoping BO'B comes up with a well called game that puts enough points on the board.

On a separate note, I'm not buying all this T.Y. smack talk. I think they're doing it to draw double teams to him because he's badly hobbled. Bet we see Luck spread it around a bunch.
 

steelbtexan

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Him and Dick Vermeil are my favorite coaches.[/QUOTE]

And there you go.

The root of the current issue on this MB and why 11-5 isn't good enough.

Truth be told a Lombardi probably wouldn't be good enough.
 

Uncle Rico

Ur apology should be as loud as Ur disrespect was
I think we need to score more than 30 to have a shot.

I'm not sure about what we saw in the Jax game. I agree that there was some slightly more esoteric stuff going on with the designed runs, but he did that knowing it would generate tape for the upcoming playoffs. Maybe it's a ruse so that the Colts prepare for Watson runs whereas in actual fact the game plan will be something crazy off the wall like... Miller Up the Middle.

Only joking.

Really hoping BO'B comes up with a well called game that puts enough points on the board.

On a separate note, I'm not buying all this T.Y. smack talk. I think they're doing it to draw double teams to him because he's badly hobbled. Bet we see Luck spread it around a bunch.
:spit:
 

steelbtexan

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I think we need to score more than 30 to have a shot.

I'm not sure about what we saw in the Jax game. I agree that there was some slightly more esoteric stuff going on with the designed runs, but he did that knowing it would generate tape for the upcoming playoffs. Maybe it's a ruse so that the Colts prepare for Watson runs whereas in actual fact the game plan will be something crazy off the wall like... Miller Up the Middle.

Only joking.

Really hoping BO'B comes up with a well called game that puts enough points on the board.

On a separate note, I'm not buying all this T.Y. smack talk. I think they're doing it to draw double teams to him because he's badly hobbled. Bet we see Luck spread it around a bunch.
We basically are seeing Saturday's game going the same way.

Gotta score TD's not FG's.

Luck isn't going to miss those 3rd down throws like Bortles was doing Sunday.

Hopefully you're righ about T.Y. that would be a huge break for the Texans. Although Luck tore up the secondary in the 1st game without T.Y. in the 2nd half.

RAC's defenses struggle against top tier QB's with good TE's. I know Ebron is good but I actually think the Colts missing Jack Doyle could be a huge factor in this game.
 

DBCooper

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Yep, take any QB away from a team and what do you have?

4-12 maybe?
My challenge is....

How many NFL starting QB’s do you put in our offense with this line and O’Brien’s scheme actually survive, let alone excel as Watson does.

You want to talk MVP, my vote is on the one that overcame more, did more with less, and carried this offense on his shoulders!

 

steelbtexan

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Odd then it pains you so much to acknowledge Schaub likely wins the Baltimore playoff game.
I'm not acknowledging anything. Fact is we will never know.

Kind of like when I missed out on a big contract thru no fault of my own. Doesn't really matter because it didn't happen and almosts don't pay the bills. SomerhSom apparently you haven't had to deal with. Thank God.
 

steelbtexan

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My challenge is....

How many NFL starting QB’s do you put in our offense with this line and O’Brien’s scheme actually survive, let alone excel as Watson does.

You want to talk MVP, my vote is on the one that overcame more, did more with less, and carried this offense on his shoulders!

Ol yes, scheme no.

Newton, Wilson, Rosen and Darnold off of the top of my head. To answer your question.
 

Uncle Rico

Ur apology should be as loud as Ur disrespect was
My challenge is....

How many NFL starting QB’s do you put in our offense with this line and O’Brien’s scheme actually survive, let alone excel as Watson does.

You want to talk MVP, my vote is on the one that overcame more, did more with less, and carried this offense on his shoulders!


Does anyone know what is the meaning of the 'smell my finger' thing Deshaun does after a big play? One of my buddies is saying he does it because he just 'finger banged' the defense and is just basking in the glory of it all LOL .. Im not so sure. Nevermind my son just told me it comes from 'Young Thug' rap song ??? okay.
 

DBCooper

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Ol yes, scheme no.

Newton, Wilson, Rosen and Darnold off of the top of my head. To answer your question.
Wilson maybe, mahommes maybe.

I’m just having some fun anyway.

I do agree with on a lot of things too......

Give Gaine a few off seasons and we should have an All Pro line, a few new all stars as wideouts, a RB that can ace that awesome 1rst down up the middle run, and 3 or 4 tight ends that can block, catch, run, get open, pass, and punt.

O’Brien’s brilliance will really shine then.
 

DBCooper

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Does anyone know what is the meaning of the 'smell my finger' thing Deshaun does after a big play? One of my buddies is saying he does it because he just 'finger banged' the defense and is just basking in the glory of it all LOL .. Im not so sure. Nevermind my son just told me it comes from 'Young Thug' rap song ??? okay.
Lol

No clue from me.
 

FuzzyLogic

Mathematically Possible
I'm not young, or hip - actually closer to breaking a hip...


"On Young Thug's song "Slimed In," the hook goes: "Wipe your nose clean, f--- your whole team."

"I'm a fan of Young Thug and his music. He's from Atlanta, Georgia, I'm from Georgia outside of Atlanta. Me and Will Fuller, and Bruce (Ellington) when he was here, big fans of Young Thug," Watson said.

Watson often refers to his teammates as "slime," which also is a Young Thug thing. Young Thug had mixtapes called "Slime Season 1", "Slime Season 2", "Slime Season 3" and "Super Slimey."

"Slime is a code word for friend," Watson said. "It's like, 'Hey, what's up, bro? What's up, bruh? What's up, slime?', and that's their sign – wipe your nose, I guess. So, just a little trendsetter that whenever we get the first down we just slime, keep it moving."

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/sports/texans/article/Texans-Deshaun-Watson-wipe-nose-celebration-Thug-13431874.php
 

Jadmakaveli

Veteran
Does anyone know what is the meaning of the 'smell my finger' thing Deshaun does after a big play? One of my buddies is saying he does it because he just 'finger banged' the defense and is just basking in the glory of it all LOL .. Im not so sure. Nevermind my son just told me it comes from 'Young Thug' rap song ??? okay.
Yea its for Thugger. Slime Season! Super slimey!

Slime also stands for some other things, but I rather not state what that means because I feel like someone would take it very literal and run with it.
 

DocBar

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I don't think O'Brien is infallible. Sure he makes mistakes, all HCs do at times. What bothers me is posters who focus solely on his mistakes and define him by them. 11-5 in arguably the toughest division in football, #3 seed, and all after starting 0-3. You have to give him some credit for that - he must be doing something right.

Gaine looks good so far, but the verdict is still out. It will be at least three years until we can begin to make a accurate assessment of him.

I grow tired of the BOB vs Kubiak stuff. I was supportive of both and who cares who is the better coach. BOB is the current coach and Kubiak's days of coaching are over.
At least three of those wins came due to pure luck or bad decisions by the other team. This an 8-8 team that got very lucky.
I also don't necessarily think OB is an awful HC. I think he's awful OC and his "system" and play calling are as much responsible for the poor offensive performances as a porous OL and injuries have been. I don't think we always separate the two roles enough and just lump OC and HC together. I, for one, commend OB for not losing the locker room after o-3. I also think the leaders in the locker room played a huge role in that.
 

NitroGSXR

Super Sic #58
At least three of those wins came due to pure luck or bad decisions by the other team. This an 8-8 team that got very lucky.
I also don't necessarily think OB is an awful HC. I think he's awful OC and his "system" and play calling are as much responsible for the poor offensive performances as a porous OL and injuries have been. I don't think we always separate the two roles enough and just lump OC and HC together. I, for one, commend OB for not losing the locker room after o-3. I also think the leaders in the locker room played a huge role in that.
I’ve always lumped them in together. I’m not so sure what else a HC is supposed to do other than the basics of working with the GM to build a team during the offseason. Can you (or anyone else) explain it to me? Not the first time I’ve asked either.
 

Shishkabob

All Pro
At least three of those wins came due to pure luck or bad decisions by the other team. This an 8-8 team that got very lucky.
I also don't necessarily think OB is an awful HC. I think he's awful OC and his "system" and play calling are as much responsible for the poor offensive performances as a porous OL and injuries have been. I don't think we always separate the two roles enough and just lump OC and HC together. I, for one, commend OB for not losing the locker room after o-3. I also think the leaders in the locker room played a huge role in that.
Please tell me the 3 games we got "lucky" and should have lost? The first Indy game where we were up by 18 at the half totally steam rolling them until an untimely Nuk fumble, and Watson interception got them back in the game? I guess Reich going for it, and us stopping it was "luck". But then why was it also lucky when in a similar situation Jason Garret made the opposite call the next week, and we still won? Are you referring to the Broncos kicker missing a 50+ yarder at the end of the game lucky? I guess a field goal that has essentially a coin flip odds of making or missing being missed is lucky. But then aren't they lucky we missed a kick so they even had a chance to win on the final play? Or maybe you are talking about the Washington game where their kicker who was hobbled by a groin injury missed the longest field goal in NFL history, yea sure I guess that's "luck", but again we missed 2 FGs that game, so I guess they were lucky we even put them in position to attempt it right?

The blind argument of "luck" is ignorant. The majority of NFL games have been decided by 1 possession this year, every single fan base can say they got lucky that this happened, or if this call was made they would have won. You have 60 minutes to outscore the other team, just because you fail to do so in the waning seconds doesn't make the other team lucky, it means they outplayed you that game
 

DocBar

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Please tell me the 3 games we got "lucky" and should have lost? The first Indy game where we were up by 18 at the half totally steam rolling them until an untimely Nuk fumble, and Watson interception got them back in the game? I guess Reich going for it, and us stopping it was "luck". But then why was it also lucky when in a similar situation Jason Garret made the opposite call the next week, and we still won? Are you referring to the Broncos kicker missing a 50+ yarder at the end of the game lucky? I guess a field goal that has essentially a coin flip odds of making or missing being missed is lucky. But then aren't they lucky we missed a kick so they even had a chance to win on the final play? Or maybe you are talking about the Washington game where their kicker who was hobbled by a groin injury missed the longest field goal in NFL history, yea sure I guess that's "luck", but again we missed 2 FGs that game, so I guess they were lucky we even put them in position to attempt it right?

The blind argument of "luck" is ignorant. The majority of NFL games have been decided by 1 possession this year, every single fan base can say they got lucky that this happened, or if this call was made they would have won. You have 60 minutes to outscore the other team, just because you fail to do so in the waning seconds doesn't make the other team lucky, it means they outplayed you that game
You're entitled to your opinion. So am I. I consider it "luck" to win because the other team misses a last second FG. 49 yd FGs are not considered 50/50 in the NFL ( See for yourself) I consider it "luck" to win because the other team has a brain fart (Looking right at ya, Frank Reich). I fully understand footballs games coming down to a few plays over the course of the game. I also understand the cyclical nature of winning and losing close games. I've also pointed out, in previous posts, how OB has both benefited and been the victim of that cycle. Do you re-watch every game several times? I do. This season, I've had a limited availability to take game notes because I'm now a full time single parent to a 9 yr old daughter who rocks a Watt jersey but otherwise shuns the NFL. She doesn't get the point.

I am also aware of the Pop Warner level play calling OB does. Miller up the middle on 1st. Triple option on 2nd. WR screen on 3rd and medium or long. The Texans have won, in 2018, in spite of OB much more often than because of OB. I'm going into Saturday's WC game hoping the Texans win but expecting nothing. I think the Colts are the better team at this point.
 

Uncle Rico

Ur apology should be as loud as Ur disrespect was
Irony is if Reich just plays for the tie in the first game which looked to be the case up to the loss of downs near midfield - The Colts would have hosted this playoff game.

The Washington game was weird also .. Gruden needed like 5 yards to be in comfortable kicking range and he took shots down field and botched the whole possession.
 

steelbtexan

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Wilson maybe, mahommes maybe.

I’m just having some fun anyway.

I do agree with on a lot of things too......

Give Gaine a few off seasons and we should have an All Pro line, a few new all stars as wideouts, a RB that can ace that awesome 1rst down up the middle run, and 3 or 4 tight ends that can block, catch, run, get open, pass, and punt.

O’Brien’s brilliance will really shine then.
2 yrs
 

banned1976

sleeper mode
Irony is if Reich just plays for the tie in the first game which looked to be the case up to the loss of downs near midfield - The Colts would have hosted this playoff game.

The Washington game was weird also .. Gruden needed like 5 yards to be in comfortable kicking range and he took shots down field and botched the whole possession.
Sometimes it’s better to be lucky than good. Every year it seems like an NFL team has all the luck in the world. And usually (recently, anyway) that team was the Pats.
 

thunderkyss

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They managed to fill several holes on the roster without having 1st/2nd rd picks and while he's been great it hasn't all been just
You've said this a number of times. Which "holes" are you referring to?

On one hand you're telling me the safety position is fixed. On the other that we're giving up 378 yards passing.

We drafted a Guard BO'b thought was a tackle until three weeks ago.

We drafted two TEs that BO'b forgot about.

We drafted a shifty WR who's lack of availability severely limits our offense.

What am I missing?
 

thunderkyss

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Does anyone know what is the meaning of the 'smell my finger' thing Deshaun does after a big play? One of my buddies is saying he does it because he just 'finger banged' the defense and is just basking in the glory of it all LOL .. Im not so sure. Nevermind my son just told me it comes from 'Young Thug' rap song ??? okay.
At Clemson he used to "slash his throat" but that's forbidden in the NFL.
 

steelbtexan

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You've said this a number of times. Which "holes" are you referring to?

On one hand you're telling me the safety position is fixed. On the other that we're giving up 378 yards passing.

We drafted a Guard BO'b thought was a tackle until three weeks ago.

We drafted two TEs that BO'b forgot about.

We drafted a shifty WR who's lack of availability severely limits our offense.

What am I missing?
Fixed the ST's

Found an all pro type S in the 3rd rd of the draft and added an all pro S.

Got 2 young TE's that are doing pretty well, especially since 1 is a converted WR

Yes the young WR drafted has been hurt, but he's very talented. The Texans medical staff mishandled his injury. (Again, notice a theme?) He had no injury history before he was drafted.

What more did you expect from a GM that was missing his 1st/2nd rd draft picks?
 

TheMatrix31

Hall of Fame
Kubiak is brought up often because, by the end of his time with the Texans, he was brought up as the reason for literally every failing of the team. It was time to go.

Bill O'Brien was brought in as savior. Incessantly fellated by media and fan alike. The guy to push us over the hill. The guy to take us to the next level as a legitimate, strong entity in this league. To become a franchise that is not a paper champion. A franchise with a defined identity.

He's from New England. He's a guru. He's a QB whisperer. He loves tight ends. He runs offenses so well. He's a game prep genius. He's a disciplinarian. He's everything we wanted. He's everything we deserve. We paid our dues.

Five years on, and none of it has manifested itself. Same problems. Same disorganization. Same lackluster performances. Same undisciplined play. Same paper champions.

And because we already established from the previous regime that head coach holds all responsibility, the blame goes there and the two of them are inextricably linked forever.

We didn't make the rules. We didn't set the expectations. We just play by them and react to what we see.
 

steelbtexan

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Kubiak is brought up often because, by the end of his time with the Texans, he was brought up as the reason for literally every failing of the team. It was time to go.

Bill O'Brien was brought in as savior. Incessantly fellated by media and fan alike. The guy to push us over the hill. The guy to take us to the next level as a legitimate, strong entity in this league. To become a franchise that is not a paper champion. A franchise with a defined identity.

He's from New England. He's a guru. He's a QB whisperer. He loves tight ends. He runs offenses so well. He's a game prep genius. He's a disciplinarian. He's everything we wanted. He's everything we deserve. We paid our dues.

Five years on, and none of it has manifested itself. Same problems. Same disorganization. Same lackluster performances. Same undisciplined play. Same paper champions.

And because we already established from the previous regime that head coach holds all responsibility, the blame goes there and the two of them are inextricably linked forever.

We didn't make the rules. We didn't set the expectations. We just play by them and react to what we see.
What was the constants in both regimes?
 

Texas Jake

Rookie
Kubiak is brought up often because, by the end of his time with the Texans, he was brought up as the reason for literally every failing of the team. It was time to go.

Bill O'Brien was brought in as savior. Incessantly fellated by media and fan alike. The guy to push us over the hill. The guy to take us to the next level as a legitimate, strong entity in this league. To become a franchise that is not a paper champion. A franchise with a defined identity.

He's from New England. He's a guru. He's a QB whisperer. He loves tight ends. He runs offenses so well. He's a game prep genius. He's a disciplinarian. He's everything we wanted. He's everything we deserve. We paid our dues.

Five years on, and none of it has manifested itself. Same problems. Same disorganization. Same lackluster performances. Same undisciplined play. Same paper champions.

And because we already established from the previous regime that head coach holds all responsibility, the blame goes there and the two of them are inextricably linked forever.

We didn't make the rules. We didn't set the expectations. We just play by them and react to what we see.
Wait! There are rules?
 

DocBar

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The Texans aren't winning the Division this year.

The Texans aren't making the playoffs this year.

The Texans aren't winning 11 games this year.

The Texans aren't winning 9 in a row this year.

Who knows what them Texans gonna do?
Anything is possible with Watson, Nuk, JJ and Clowney. I'd love nothing more than to see the Texans win the SB February. I don't confuse possible with probable, though.
 

Sonny

TexSon Proud
I know the texans turned it around. thats great. But they had a legit chance to have a bye and fumbled the opportunity twice. This just feels like another 1 and done year.

And of course they have to play new England if they win the first round of the playoffs.
Apologies for the disrespect of not wading through this entire thread to toss a couple cents at your original post but let me just say this (and it sounds weird even in my head) ... I'm more worried about the Cults than I am the Pets.

My personal opinion.

If and when get by neck beard.. it seems like a perfect storm into the bowl.
Of course.. I'm a homer but it's pretty realistic.
 

Sonny

TexSon Proud
I know the texans turned it around. thats great. But they had a legit chance to have a bye and fumbled the opportunity twice. This just feels like another 1 and done year.

And of course they have to play new England if they win the first round of the playoffs.
Apologies for the disrespect of not wading through this entire thread to toss a couple cents at your original post but let me just say this (and it sounds weird even in my head) ... I'm more worried about the Cults than I am the Pets.

Just my personal opinion.

If and when we get by neck beard.. it seems like a perfect storm into the bowl.
Of course.. I'm a homer but it's pretty realistic.
 

thunderkyss

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What more did you expect from a GM that was missing his 1st/2nd rd draft picks?
I think he's done a good job. Still I think it's too early to say those holes have been fixed. We've been here before. This soon after the draft & FA only to be let down.

The TE position specifically. We said the same thing about Fido his first year, it takes time. We said the same thing about Griffin, it takes time.

We were excited about a couple of safeties Rick brought in. Ried has played better than them in his short time, true. Still too early.

Now, we're in the playoffs. This is the time when stars are born. So we shall see.
 

Uncle Rico

Ur apology should be as loud as Ur disrespect was
The Texans aren't winning the Division this year.

The Texans aren't making the playoffs this year.

The Texans aren't winning 11 games this year.

The Texans aren't winning 9 in a row this year.

Who knows what them Texans gonna do?
Some fans in their quest to be right about everything will take innocuous and neutral stances, or just make comments supporting both sides of a coin so that in the end .. they can ge right. Bless their hearts, whatever helps them be a good fan.

You've said this a number of times. Which "holes" are you referring to?

On one hand you're telling me the safety position is fixed. On the other that we're giving up 378 yards passing.

We drafted a Guard BO'b thought was a tackle until three weeks ago.

We drafted two TEs that BO'b forgot about.

We drafted a shifty WR who's lack of availability severely limits our offense.

What am I missing?
Welcome to the world of fake news, convenient truths and flat out deflection or lies when wrong. If the *President can do it why cant we right? SMH.
 

maverick512000

Hall of Fame
Some fans in their quest to be right about everything will take innocuous and neutral stances, or just make comments supporting both sides of a coin so that in the end .. they can ge right. Bless their hearts, whatever helps them be a good fan.
Or they can see both sides points and aren't emotionally invested in either arguement. Seriously why does everything have to be a "them vs us"?

No one person, Kubiak, Smith, O'Brien or even the McNairs, are to blame for the issues in the past, there is plenty to go around and everyone gets their share. Likewise no one person gets credit for helping us climb out of the hole.

I doubt you'll reply because I'm pretty sure you have me on ignore but I really am curious why it's all or nothing with some on this board. Smith got us Watt, Hopkins and Watson but to some he is the curse of Houston football. Likewise BoB coached the team out of a 0-3 hole but again to some he couldn't do anything right even if we win the SB. I won't even go further back than that because the actors are different but the show is the same.

Really reminds me why I avoided sports for so many years, to many people getting to worked up over something that at the end of the day doesn't matter.
 

steelbtexan

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I think he's done a good job. Still I think it's too early to say those holes have been fixed. We've been here before. This soon after the draft & FA only to be let down.

The TE position specifically. We said the same thing about Fido his first year, it takes time. We said the same thing about Griffin, it takes time.

We were excited about a couple of safeties Rick brought in. Ried has played better than them in his short time, true. Still too early.

Now, we're in the playoffs. This is the time when stars are born. So we shall see.
It's only to soon in your world. I never liked the Fiedo/Griffin picks and Reid is the best S ever drafted by this franchise. Would you consider the ST's to be fixed and did you hold the previous regime to the same standard?

But OK I, I'l play along with this bs, tell us how long is long enough to say it's not too early?
 

usernameJJ

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