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Bulls on Parade said:
Can't say I wouldn't have gotten upset at the staff myself. All he's trying to do is bury his father. We don't know how the funeral staff treated him. A guy like Richie Incognito is a ticking time bomb. Not too surprised with that story. I kind of want to side with Incognito on this one, if only he didn't threaten to kill anybody. He went too far... Damaging property is my cut off point. I would have maybe kicked a chair or smashed a flower vase at best. I'd have stopped there.
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I don't see how anyone could side with him at this point. Does it suck losing your father..hell yes it does, but here's the thing..

Do we even know that this guy was mistreated in any way whatsoever by the funeral home staff? It was just a couple of months ago that this maniac was involuntary committed into a mental hospital, for throwing objects at gym employees and patrons, because he thought they were secret government officials who were tracking and recording him..

Also slowly, but surely there's more details coming out about this incident..
According to a police report released Tuesday, Incognito entered Messinger Pinnacle Peak Mortuary and began acting erratically around four employees. Police were called when Incognito made his hand into the shape of a gun and told one of the employees he had a "truck full of guns" in the parking lot.

Police later found two Glock pistols, a handgun silencer and three rifles in Incognito's vehicle. He told police he had necessary permits for the weapons.

According to police, Incognito "appeared to lack concentration and was unable to maintain a coherent thought. Rather, he appeared to ramble about numerous things that did not correlate."

Police also noted Incognito's "moods were erratic as he would be very respectful toward [the] officer at one point, and [then] immediately raise his voice and demand to be let out of the handcuffs the next."

A funeral home employee told police that Incognito's family was not going to allow him to attend the funeral and Incognito was not cooperating with his brother in signing paperwork to have their father's body cremated.

After entering the funeral home Monday, Incognito began "talking about a lot of random things that did not make sense," an employee told police. Incognito then "walked around the funeral home, punching caskets and throwing things." At one point, he told the employees he wanted them to cut his father's head off for research purposes.

Incognito later entered the office of the funeral home and saw his father's funeral was scheduled for Friday.

According to the police report, he later signed the cremation paperwork but then told the employees he wanted to buy a casket and have his father buried. When the employees were showing Incognito the caskets, he took an urn from a shelf and slammed it onto the casket. He also punched a printer in the funeral home's office, an employee said.

Incognito later began talking to an employee about his guns while making the shape of a gun with his hand and pointing it at the employee. That employee then ran to a secured room downstairs. He later told police he thought Incognito was going to kill him.
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http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/24436462/richie-incognito-charged-making-threats

I'm sorry, but I'm siding with anybody, but crazy ass Incognito here.. His own flesh and blood won't allow him to attend his own father's funeral and that was before he wanted his father's head chopped off.. It's pretty clear that this guy isn't working with a full deck and is off his rocker.

Furthermore I think it needs to be taken a step further. We always talk about mental health and gun ownership rights. If there ever was a case where someone should lose their rights to possess firearms this is it.. or are they just going to wait until after he makes good on his threats? This guy clearly has a mental problem and it seems like his mental state is deteriorating each passing month.
 
Police later found two Glock pistols, a handgun silencer and three rifles in Incognito's vehicle. He told police he had necessary permits for the weapons.
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who the hell needs a silencer??
 
ObsiWan said:
who the hell needs a silencer??
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Technically a suppressor although I'm not sure why the nomenclature change was necessary.

An argument can be made they are automatic ear protection for everyone around.

In some applications, the new balance helps faster target reacquisition.
 
infantrycak said:
Technically a suppressor although I'm not sure why the nomenclature change was necessary.

An argument can be made they are automatic ear protection for everyone around.

In some applications, the new balance helps faster target reacquisition.
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Not buying the ear protection argument in Incognito's case. And every gun range I've used has given me ear plugs or those hot-azz cans for hearing protection.
 
Following Incognito's story over the years, there is no doubt in my mind that he not only suffers from his already diagnosed bipolar disease, but also paranoid schizophrenia. His form of bipolar disorder is mostly depressive...........giving him a very high risk for suicide. Besides this, Incognito, due to a long alcoholic and drug abuse history, is now showing both liver and kidney function deterioration. These failures can easily create metabolic changes in the body that can further complicate his already compromised brain function. It would not surprise me at all to read about his suicide in the not too far future.
 
Charles Johnson announces retirement after 11 NFL seasons
Posted by Josh Alper on August 22, 2018, 12:13 PM EDT


Defensive end Charles Johnson did not sign with any other team after the Panthers released him in February and the 11-year veteran confirmed on Wednesday that he’s reached the end of his playing days.

Johnson announced his retirement through the Panthers, who will be holding an event to celebrate Johnson’s career on Thursday. Johnson spent his entire career in Carolina and ranks behind only Julius Peppers on the franchise’s all-time sack list.

Johnson had back surgery last year and said that his body has not fully recovered since the operation.

“Once you have back surgery, I don’t care who you are, it’s a beast to get back,” Johnson said. “My body was just… I haven’t worked out since this winter. I tried to get motivated to work out, and my body said, ‘We’re not working out right now.’ It was about that time.”

Johnson said he wants to be remembered as “a Panther all the way through” and his 11 years on the defense make it a good bet that it will be his legacy.

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BTW, Johnson underwent lumbar microdiscectomy.
 
CND - How does that compare to the procedure JJ had? I'm not exactly sure what he had done a couple years ago.
 
Cowboys Travis Frederick has been diagnosed with Guillain-Barre Syndrome, an autoimmune disease of very unpredictable course. It is reported that it was caught early and it is a mild case. From what I have found out, his issue began ~ 4 weeks ago not 1 1/2 weeks as reported. He has recently had 2 treatments and says he is feeling some improvement. But most will have significant limb weaknesses and pains for anywhere from several weeks to up to 2 years (~80% eventually resolve), if not permanently. There is a question as to if the available treatments consistently change the course of the disease. Typically the damage is apparent in the early weeks, but this disease can begin improving and then go down hill. The worst cases can affect the breathing muscles and result in death.......a mortality rate of ~10-20%, depending on the study you read.

Hopefully, Frederick responds to his treatments, but I would hesitate to give him any return to play schedule for this year.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
Cowboys Travis Frederick has been diagnosed with Guillain-Barre Syndrome, an autoimmune disease of very unpredictable course. It is reported that it was caught early and it is a mild case. From what I have found out, his issue began ~ 4 weeks ago not 1 1/2 weeks as reported. He has recently had 2 treatments and says he is feeling some improvement. But most will have significant limb weaknesses and pains for anywhere from several weeks to up to 2 years (~80% eventually resolve), if not permanently. There is a question as to if the available treatments consistently change the course of the disease. Typically the damage is apparent in the early weeks, but this disease can begin improving and then go down hill. The worst cases can affect the breathing muscles and result in death.......a mortality rate of ~10-20%, depending on the study you read.

Hopefully, Frederick responds to his treatments, but I would hesitate to give him any return to play schedule for this year.
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I have a friend that got this several years ago. The guy was/is a real life cowboy. Huge dude. This disease got him bad. It took him a couple of years to even be able to brush his teeth on his own. He is able to walk with the help of a cane now, but can't do anything he was able to do in the past. Wishing the best for Fredrick.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
Cowboys Travis Frederick has been diagnosed with Guillain-Barre Syndrome, an autoimmune disease of very unpredictable course. It is reported that it was caught early and it is a mild case. From what I have found out, his issue began ~ 4 weeks ago not 1 1/2 weeks as reported. He has recently had 2 treatments and says he is feeling some improvement. But most will have significant limb weaknesses and pains for anywhere from several weeks to up to 2 years (~80% eventually resolve), if not permanently. There is a question as to if the available treatments consistently change the course of the disease. Typically the damage is apparent in the early weeks, but this disease can begin improving and then go down hill. The worst cases can affect the breathing muscles and result in death.......a mortality rate of ~10-20%, depending on the study you read.

Hopefully, Frederick responds to his treatments, but I would hesitate to give him any return to play schedule for this year.
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CnnnD, always appreciate the medical insight.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
It looks like an ACL to me the way he was hit. By the angle he was hit, would not be surprised if it involves additional significant damage to the knee structures.
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Sounds like Jags had some bad injury luck yesterday. Again per rotoworld:

Jaguars DT Marcell Dareus left Saturday's third preseason game against the Falcons with a pectoral injury.

He exited in the second quarter. Dareus missed practice time with a similar injury earlier this month.
 
The Colts D took a hit yesterday.................

T.J. Green S sustained a hamstring tear

Ronald Martin S sustained a shoulder injury

John Simon DE sustained a neck injury (also had one Nov 2017 with Texans....cut his season short)

Denzelle Good RT sustained a serious knee injury (was dealing with a knee injury throughout the preseason........was expected to be starting RT)

The only one on that list that is not questionable for the regular season is Simon..........and, in light of the previous neck injury, is at increased risk for recurrent injury.
 
TheRealJoker said:
Jaguars WR Marquise Lee was carted off the field with a knee injury in their preseason game against the Falcons.
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CloakNNNdagger said:
It looks like an ACL to me the way he was hit. By the angle he was hit, would not be surprised if it involves additional significant damage to the knee structures.
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It has been announced that Lee is scheduled for knee surgery for ligament damage. They have avoided naming the specifics of the injury which now I am more convinced than ever that it includes an ACL rupture.

I took a screen shot of the play at :16 secs..........demonstrates a classic poor planting of the foot with hit and twisting of the knee. Stop the action and you will see his left foot is everted at 90 degrees as he his hit head on just above the knee.

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What is the answer? Allow higher hits to the head. The rules should be no different than the '80s and '90s. More concussions, yes, but less ACL injuries. I'd rather risk a helmet-to-helmet hit than some guy tackling me low and taking out my knees.

Former All Pro safety Mark Carrier was on the Stephen A. Smith show a few minutes ago. Saying the rules should have never been changed. He made his livelihood hitting people hard and he'd often lunge forward and initiate his bone-crushing hits with the crown of his helmet.

Carrier is 50 years old now. He has a lot of memory loss. But he says he wouldn't have done things any differently. He made millions playing a game he loved. He knows it cost him 15 to 20 years of his life expectancy. He doesn't think he'll live to 60.
 
OBJr just got paid.

how long before DHop renegotiates?
Odell Beckham Jr. wanted to be the highest-paid receiver in the NFL, and one of the highest-paid players in the league.

He got both.

Five years, $95 million
Cha-ching.
The guaranteed amount is the most ever given to a receiver. NFL Network’s Mike Garafolo tweeted that the five years are added on to the end of Beckham’s current rookie contract, which ends after this season, meaning the 25-year-old three-time Pro Bowler is signed through 2023. Garafolo posted that the pact has a base of $90 million, with $41 million fully guaranteed at signing and an additional $24 million in injury guarantees.
The additional $5 million is in the form of performance escalators.
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One of the NFL's rising young offensive linemen won't hit the open market in 2019.

TheNew England Patriotshave agreed to terms with guardShaq Masonto a five-year, $50 million contract extension with $23.5 million guaranteed, according to a source informed of the transaction. Mason will earn close to $30 million over the first three years of the new deal, the source added.
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http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...-mason-agrees-to-5year-50m-patriots-extension
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23.5M$ guaranteed, hey now that's some serious coin for a guard.
 
Hey guys, I'm on my mobile device right now waiting at the grocery store. My browser is acting up. Can somebody compare Odell Beckham Jr.'s 5 year, $95 million extension to James Harden's mega deal with the Rockets? It's still nowhere near the stratosphere of what NBA superstars make? Or am I mistaken?
 
Bulls on Parade said:
Hey guys, I'm on my mobile device right now waiting at the grocery store. My browser is acting up. Can somebody compare Odell Beckham Jr.'s 5 year, $95 million extension to James Harden's mega deal with the Rockets? It's still nowhere near the stratosphere of what NBA superstars make? Or am I mistaken?
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NBA:
James Harden signed a 4 year / $117,964,846 contract with the Houston Rockets, including $117,964,846 guaranteed, and an annual average salary of $29,491,212. In 2018-19, Harden will earn a base salary of $30,421,854, while carrying a cap hit of $30,421,854 and a dead cap value of $199,765,854.

Chris Paul signed a 4 year / $159,730,592 contract with the Houston Rockets, including $159,730,592 guaranteed, and an annual average salary of $39,932,648. In 2018-19, Paul will earn a base salary of $35,654,150, while carrying a cap hit of $35,654,150 and a dead cap value of $159,730,592.

NFL:
Odell Beckham, Jr. signed a 5 year, $90,000,000 contract with the New York Giants, including a $20,000,000 signing bonus, $56,500,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $18,000,000. In 2018, Beckham, Jr. will earn a base salary of $1,459,000 and a signing bonus of $20,000,000, while carrying a cap hit of $5,459,000.

MLB:
Giancarlo Stanton signed a 13 year / $325,000,000 contract with the Miami Marlins, including $325,000,000 guaranteed, and an annual average salary of $25,000,000. In 2018, Stanton will earn a base salary of $25,000,000, while carrying a total salary of $25,000,000.
 
Wow. Thanks! I knew Harden got paid the bank and then some. I guess that's the difference between the NBA's soft cap versus the NFL's hard cap. Can you imagine if one day there is no salary cap in either sport? LOL
 
Bulls on Parade said:
Wow. Thanks! I knew Harden got paid the bank and then some. I guess that's the difference between the NBA's soft cap versus the NFL's hard cap. Can you imagine if one day there is no salary cap in either sport? LOL
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I was trying to look up Futbol salaries but Spotrac doesn't have that. Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo have been duking it out for second highest paid athlete behind Floyd Mayweather. Soccer errr Futbol is the sport to play. Those guys are making ABSURD money.


After nine years at Real Madrid, Cristiano Ronaldo is leaving the global soccer giant for the Italian Serie A club Juventus. The deal is worth at least $340 million over four years, according to Forbes sources.

The tally includes a $140 million (€120 million) transfer fee owed to Real and a net annual salary for Ronaldo of roughly $35 million (€30 million). There are no bonuses or incentives in the deal, per sources.

Based on Italy's top tax rate, Ronaldo's new gross salary equates to $64 million, a pay cut from the $66 million he was expected to have made this upcoming season in salary and bonus if he stayed at the Santiago Bernabéu Stadium. This lags behind the gross pay of Lionel Messi ($84 million) and Neymar ($73 million), both of whom received new deals last year from their respective clubs, Barcelona and Paris Saint-Germain.

No soccer player is close to Ronaldo in terms of endorsement earnings, though. With the $47 million he earns off the pitch from endorsements, appearances and licensing, he is still on track to bank at least $111 million through the upcoming season, enough to keep him the second-highest-paid soccer player in the world.
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https://www.forbes.com/sites/christ...leaves-real-madrid-for-juventus/#87e7be229a6d
 
Yeah, the global soccer contracts are out of this world!
But for American pro sports, baseball is king.

Even though he had a bit of a down year by his own superstar standards, Bryce Harper is expected to generate a 10-year, $400 million contract in free agency this winter.

Manny Machado, likewise, will be looking for a long multi-year deal north of $350 million. Two young superstars with their prime years still ahead, should blow open the baseball market this winter.

Think of A-Rod back in 2000 when he set the market.
Harper and Machado could make a killing this winter.

My only concern with the NFL eliminating the salary cap one day: Wouldn't we just go back to the pre 1994 NFL? You'd have a lot of the same teams winning Super Bowls I guess. At that time the salary cap sort of hindered a strong Dallas Cowboys team that won three Super Bowls in four years.

But they sold out for Deion Sanders during that last Super Bowl win. In the process they lost a lot of good players and depth in the years directly after. They could have probably regained one more Super Bowl run or two had they drafted well (not passing on Randy Moss, not trading two first-round picks to the Seahawks for Joey Galloway, which turned into a couple more All Pros in Shaun Alexander and Steve Hutchinson, etc... etc..

I was actually a Dallas Cowboys fan from 1997 to 2001 when Houston had no NFL team. I hated the Tennessee Oilers and Titans once they left our great city. I was not going to cheer for them.
 
Carr Bombed said:
Man the Giants have been spending money like a drunken sailor with a pocket full of shore leave cash at a crooked whore house this year.
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They're idiots. No WR is worth that, especially one that has mental health issues and gets injured often. Plus, you sit back and look at all of the SB match ups from year to year and there is hardly ever a team with a top 3 to top 5 elite receiver winning the SB. Much higher risk in getting a diva type of personality at that position as well.
 
ObsiWan said:
OBJr just got paid.

how long before DHop renegotiates?


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His deal goes through the 2022 season, so not until after the 2021 season. If the Texans had caved in to Duane Brown then DHop would be pushing for a new deal right now. That is the advantage of being a team like the Texans or Seahawks that doesn't extend contracts with more than one year remaining.
 
Packers, Aaron Rodgers reach record extension
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/24514088/green-bay-packers-aaron-rodgers-record-extension

Aaron Rodgers and the Green Bay Packers have agreed to a record-breaking four-year, $134 million extension that could be worth up to $180 million in total money, a source told ESPN's Adam Schefter on Wednesday.

Rodgers is expected to sign the deal at some point Wednesday, a source told Schefter. The deal would run through the 2023 season, when Rodgers will turn 40 years old.

The extension includes nearly $103 million total in guarantees, another record amount, and has an annual average value of $33.5 million, according to Schefter.
 
Can you imagine what Deshaun Watson will be worth in a few years if he becomes an All Pro quarterback and helps the Texans win a Super Bowl or two? The guy is young and has his entire pro career ahead of him. I hope we see a passing of the torch, or changing of the guard, Week 1 when the Texans defeat Tom Brady and the Patriots.
 
Bulls on Parade said:
Can you imagine what Deshaun Watson will be worth in a few years if he becomes an All Pro quarterback and helps the Texans win a Super Bowl or two? The guy is young and has his entire pro career ahead of him. I hope we see a passing of the torch, or changing of the guard, Week 1 when the Texans defeat Tom Brady and the Patriots.
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I was thinking that when I shared. We're gonna need a ton of room to re-sign DW4. It's going to be worth it. I've got my rosey glasses on and a big ol'cup of kool-aid. I've never believed in a player more than I am in Watson.
 
Bulls on Parade said:
Can you imagine what Deshaun Watson will be worth in a few years if he becomes an All Pro quarterback and helps the Texans win a Super Bowl or two? The guy is young and has his entire pro career ahead of him. I hope we see a passing of the torch, or changing of the guard, Week 1 when the Texans defeat Tom Brady and the Patriots.
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If we stink it up NE, I'm TOTALLY blaming you for jinxing it.

...just so you know.
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PapaL said:
I was thinking that when I shared. We're gonna need a ton of room to re-sign DW4. It's going to be worth it. I've got my rosey glasses on and a big ol'cup of kool-aid. I've never believed in a player more than I am in Watson.
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How about if we just see him make it through at least this next season before we expect Fort Knox to open their doors again.:texflag:
 
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