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2nd round DJ Swearinger

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Jayson Braddock ‏@JaysonBraddock
Wildcard. Able to help as situational pass rusher / 4-2-5 look, SS, ILB. He's a great get for Houston on day3. ===>@JaysonBraddock could you see Cliett become that SS/LB hybrid?

Texans top 7 CBs:
Kareem Jackson
Johnathan Joseph
Kevin Johnson
AJ Bouye
Darryl Morris
Jumal Rolle
Andre Hal​

Texans like to use 3 safeties in sub. Houston likely to keep 6 CBs, have 7 CBs worthy of roster spot. Could one see a switch to safety?

Behind Rahim Moore & Stevie Brown, Texans have Kurtis Drummond, Lonnie Ballentine & Eddie Pleasant as possible S worthy of the 53 man roster
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ObsiWan said:
maybe it's not the McNairs who want "choir boys", looks like it's O'Brien
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How does "choir boys" relate to he felt that his status as a second round pick precluded him from playing on the special teams unit?
 
We now have one solid safety in Rashim Moore and two carry-overs from last year, Ballentine and Pleasant. We signed FA Stevie Brown.

But I wonder if the timing of this, right after the rookie mini-camp, says something about the staff liking what they saw in Kurtis Drummond and Reshard Cliett.

Between Ballentine, Brown, Drummond, Pleasant and Terrance Parks (who is he?) the coaching staff must feel comfortable that they have their number two safety. With maybe Cliett filling that hybrid role.
 
I'm surprised they couldn't at least get a bag of chips for him. Smith has worked some miracle trades recently (Schaub, Yates, Keenum). I would have thought someone would have exchanged someone we could have gotten some use out of to us, or at least a draft pick.

I'm hoping this says that RAC likes what he sees from the rest of the safety group.
 
Jayson Braddock ‏@JaysonBraddock
IF Texans didn't waive Swearinger by 4 pm EST today, then NFL teams caught wind of Bucs reported interest, we could see a Yates deal.
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Rick Stroud ‏@NFLSTROUD
Correction. No waiver claim can be placed on Swearinger until tomorrow at earliest. Bucs WOULD have 1st Claim if opt to do so.
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Jayson Braddock ‏@JaysonBraddock
With @NFLSTROUD(Tampa Bay reporter) saying the Bucs have put in a waiver claim on DJ Swearinger, then his next team will be the Bucs. They're 1st in priority.
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Last ditch effort to drum up another suitor.
 
Playoffs said:
Jayson Braddock ‏@JaysonBraddock





How does "choir boys" relate to he felt that his status as a second round pick precluded him from playing on the special teams unit?
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A "choir boy, whatever round, would have saluted and asked "where do I line up, Coach?" not copped an attitude.

For example, isn't J.J. Watt, a first round pick, on the FG block team?
 
So what did our highly skilled and highly effective General Manager manage to get for his 2013 2nd round draft pick??
 
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Went back and looked at first two rounds on 2013 draft
Yikes. Bad draft started with top pick
Good thing Hopkins fell to us late in first
 
TexansFTW said:
I'm just excited that we got something for him instead of cutting him outright after only 2 years.

Oh wait...what? Nevermind...
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I think DJ left us with a parting gift by his premature text. A loss of a trade partner. But that might come back to bite him worse than his Pit Bull.
 
steelbtexan said:
Easily

Ozzie
BB
Schnieder
Reid
Thompson
Reese
Elway
Loomis
Colbert
Kiem
Snead

This doesn't even include Baalke or McCloughan who I think are much better also.


This is just off of the top of my head. I'm sure you will disagree, but none have had as bad of drafts as the 213/214 drafts and that doesn't even include the OkOye draft. I have been talking about this subject for yrs and Rick is the constant, besides the McNair's.
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Im betting someone is going to show us how well these ten did for that draft
 
thunderkyss said:
Im betting someone is going to show us how well these ten did for that draft
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I don't know why it doesn't really matter. Nothing ever will change SteelB's mind. Facts have no place in his little haterade world. He's right a lot of the time, but his constant spewing of Rick and the McNairs suck aren't worth prolong a conversation for.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
I get the feeling that Swearinger's instagram was put out there when it was in order to saboutage any trade.
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Ever heard DJ talk? To be honest, I don't think he's smart enough to do that. I can't see him calculating a move just to sabotage a trade; if anything, he probably randomly put something out there not really thinking about it.

This is an interesting turn of events. If they released him w/out getting something for him - and before training camp - something definitely went down behind the scenes.
 
ObsiWan said:
A "choir boy, whatever round, would have saluted and asked "where do I line up, Coach?" not copped an attitude.

For example, isn't J.J. Watt, a first round pick, on the FG block team?
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I see where you're coming from, just don't think all our guys have to be squeaky-clean to be on our team. Rough around the edges is common... refusing to play ST moves outside of that, imo.


CloakNNNdagger said:
I get the feeling that Swearinger's instagram was put out there when it was in order to saboutage any trade.
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I thought so, too. Wants to be in Tampa. Close to home, in the south.
 
Is he officially on waivers or is a TJ Yates trade still possible?


I read what you posted earlier about the Bucs showing interest but I wasn't sure how all that worked.
 
HT.com is reporting they waived him. They're probably wrong though. My neighbors cousins best friend, Rey Rey, is an inside poster on some random message board. He knows what's up! :fingergun:

http://www.houstontexans.com/news/article-2/Texans-sign-3-rookies-waive-DJ-Swearinger/4aeb3cbc-24f5-4006-a18d-d9342524e75e
 
Playoffs said:
I see where you're coming from, just don't think all our guys have to be squeaky-clean to be on our team. Rough around the edges is common... refusing to play ST moves outside of that, imo.



I thought so, too. Wants to be in Tampa. Close to home, in the south.
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How would he know the Bucs would even claim him?

Sorry, but all this talk of him purposely wrecking a trade is ridiculous.
 
houstonspartan said:
Ever heard DJ talk? To be honest, I don't think he's smart enough to do that. I can't see him calculating a move just to sabotage a trade; if anything, he probably randomly put something out there not really thinking about it.

This is an interesting turn of events. If they released him w/out getting something for him - and before training camp - something definitely went down behind the scenes.
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You're probably right, Swearinger isn't that smart. But I doubt that his agent isn't that smart.
 
The bucs didn't have to make a trade. Just wait for the release, put in a waiver claim and he's theirs. They are 1st in the waiver order. So DJ might have gave bill and Rick one last F-U.
 
houstonspartan said:
Sorry, but all this talk of him purposely wrecking a trade is ridiculous.
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Swearinger has been on the block for how long? If Smith could have pulled a trade, he would have by now. No one wanted to give anything up for this guy. That should speak volumes.
 
That'll work out well for Tampa. No doubt they're relieved to finally be able to replace the lost locker room character of Aqib Talib with someone of equal eloquence, charm, and intelligence.
 
Lucky said:
Swearinger has been on the block for how long? If Smith could have pulled a trade, he would have by now. No one wanted to give anything up for this guy. That should speak volumes.
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Exactly!
 
Lucky said:
Swearinger has been on the block for how long? If Smith could have pulled a trade, he would have by now. No one wanted to give anything up for this guy. That should speak volumes.
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Right, so, why would he purposely wreck any chance of a last-minute trade? To purposely get back at the Texans?

I just don't see him purposely saying, 'I'm going to get back at the Texans by purposely wrecking any chance of them trading me.'

Could his agent have instructed him to do that? Sure. But, that would be dumb on the agents part.

Maybe I'm missing something here. I just don't see this as some big conspiracy to get back at the Texans. Now, I DO think, however, that, weeks ago, he told his agent, "GET ME OUT OF HERE!" after he learned he was on the trading block.

But, I just can't see him purposely tanking a trade.
 
htowntexans1985 said:
The bucs didn't have to make a trade. Just wait for the release, put in a waiver claim and he's theirs. They are 1st in the waiver order. So DJ might have gave bill and Rick one last F-U.
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Right, but, again: how would he know that the Bucs would claim him off the wire? I don't buy that he purposely tanked any trade just so he could get released JUST so the Bucs would pick him up.

Also, a last f-u? Well, by being released vs traded, he now has character issues hanging over his head, and people whispering about him. So who has the last laugh? That's why I don't believe he, nor his agent, purposely tanked any trades.
 
He grew up in South Carolina where he played high school football. He played college ball Univ. of South Carolina. He has good reason to believe that on waivers, he will be picked up by Atlanta. That keeps him only ~200 miles from home.......as opposed to ~650 miles if he were traded to Cleveland. Swearinger has always been known to be very close to his family. He had plenty of incentive to saboutage the trade.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
He grew up in South Carolina where he played high school football. He played college ball Univ. of South Carolina. He has good reason to believe that on waivers, he will be picked up by Atlanta. That keeps him only ~200 miles from home.......as opposed to ~650 miles if he were traded to Cleveland. Swearinger has always been known to be very close to his family. He had plenty of incentive to saboutage the trade.
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As to the bolded, why? Or is it conjecture?
 
JB said:
As to the bolded, why? Or is it conjecture?
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It could be entirely possible that his agent had conversations with teams at the top of the waiver order in order for those teams not to make any deals with the Texans. His agent and DJ probably weren't too pleased with the way he was being perceived as this knucklehead and bad influence to Clowney.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
The Bucs have been looking for another safety. The Tampa Bay Times has already reported that the Bucs have put in a waiver claim.
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CloakNNNdagger said:
Rotoworld has reported that the CAROLINA Panthers are also interested in Swearinger if things fall through with the Bucs.
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What does that have to do with him having reason to believe Atlanta would pick him up?

Originally Posted by CloakNNNdagger View Post
He grew up in South Carolina where he played high school football. He played college ball Univ. of South Carolina. He has good reason to believe that on waivers, he will be picked up by Atlanta.
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CloakNNNdagger said:
He grew up in South Carolina where he played high school football. He played college ball Univ. of South Carolina. He has good reason to believe that on waivers, he will be picked up by Atlanta. That keeps him only ~200 miles from home.......as opposed to ~650 miles if he were traded to Cleveland. Swearinger has always been known to be very close to his family. He had plenty of incentive to saboutage the trade.
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That's ridiculous. There's too many unknowns involved in sports for someone to take a chance that he MIGHT be picked up close to his home town; we're not talking about a major superstar, who can call his shots. We're talking about a so-so defensive player still on his rookie contract.

There's more incentive for him to be traded than there is for him to purposely sabotage a trade.
 
houstonspartan said:
That's ridiculous. There's too many unknowns involved in sports for someone to take a chance that he MIGHT be picked up close to his home town; we're not talking about a major superstar, who can call his shots. We're talking about a so-so defensive player still on his rookie contract.

There's more incentive for him to be traded than there is for him to purposely sabotage a trade.
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It seems that to you everything is "ridiculous" that a player/agent may have ulterior motives/tactics.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
I get the feeling that Swearinger's instagram was put out there when it was in order to saboutage any trade.
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This. He knew exactly what he was doing. OK, maybe he didn't (Swag is pretty ****ing stupid) but if that's the case then his agent knew what he was doing.
 
Playoffs said:
I see where you're coming from, just don't think all our guys have to be squeaky-clean to be on our team. Rough around the edges is common... refusing to play ST moves outside of that, imo.
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I'm pretty sure we're in agreement here. Swearinger's attitude toward being drafted to high to play special teams is in direct conflict with O'Brien's team-first/you do whatever the team needs you to do mantra.
He had to go.
 
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