CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
These appear to both be false stories............they have both been yanked..........click on the links now.
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Ryan Mallett
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These appear to both be false stories............they have both been yanked..........click on the links now.
These appear to both be false stories............they have both been yanked..........click on the links now.
Ain't that a bi...
These appear to both be false stories............they have both been yanked..........click on the links now.
That always seems to happen when reporting happens before the team is ready to release info
TexansFTW
Veteran
Yep, it hurts.
Oh well, we are what we are I guess and hopefully I am proven wrong.
Would love to see what these contracts look like before I comment either way.
htownfan32
Hall of Fame
Yep, Rapoport is saying we got Mallett signed.
Hopefully Hoyer is just unnecessary insurance in case Mallett falls flat on his face.
Hopefully Hoyer is just unnecessary insurance in case Mallett falls flat on his face.
STEEL BLUE TEXANS
Hall of Fame
2 yrs/7 mil via Jason Braddock
silvrhand
All Pro
It just gives us leverage on Mallet, and can used to balance what the rumor is around his "expectations" on getting paid. Honestly I'm not sure how we could look at giving him more than 3/4M a year right now.
ChampionTexan
Hall of Fame
Hoyer's deal said to be three years.
They were showing the 20 best games of the season on NFLN over the weekend, two of them happen to have Bridgewater in them.
I watched & was definitely wowed by some of the throws he made.
Still wouldn't have wanted the Texans to take him with the #1 overall, but yeah... kind of bitter we didn't get him at the bottom of the first.
Sure. OB said there wasn't much to separate the QBs in this class & I wouldn't have a problem with that except it looks like he's taking measures to make sure Savage doesn't see the field in 2015.
ChampionTexan
Hall of Fame
I'm expecting to hear Fitz traded to Jets soon. If that turns out to be correct, it will be interesting to see what they get for him.
STEEL BLUE TEXANS
Hall of Fame
Mallett gets 1 year to prove he can be the franchise QB. Hoyer is just insurance in case Mallett sucks.
OzzO
.. and then?
As a tangent.....
Jayson Braddock ‏@JaysonBraddock
Brian Hoyer's contract is expected to be 3 years and in the range of $12-14 million. Getting more due to playing experience.
John McClain ‏@McClain_on_NFL
If Texans release Ryan Fitzpatrick -- or possibly trade him considering the market -- they'll save $3.25 million. Has one year left on deal.
Jayson Braddock ‏@JaysonBraddock
Brian Hoyer's contract is expected to be 3 years and in the range of $12-14 million. Getting more due to playing experience.
John McClain ‏@McClain_on_NFL
If Texans release Ryan Fitzpatrick -- or possibly trade him considering the market -- they'll save $3.25 million. Has one year left on deal.
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
The comparison should be among backups in which case they save $3.25 on Fitz and spend $4-4.3 on Hoyer. Not going to credit Smith for that (and doubt that was his call anyway). Now if they can swing a trade for Fitz, good for them.
sandman
Brexit Advisor
But if Hoyer actually gets to compete and wins the starting job, then you are talking the Mallett contract as the comparison, which is better right?
Hervoyel
BUENO!
And honestly, as far as I'm concerned they can have him. I'd rather roll into the season starting Mallet with Savage and Fitz (or even Savage and Keenum) backing him up than bring Hoyer here.
I've just never understood the appeal plus now he's got Cleveland Brown all over him. He tracks that **** into our locker room and who knows what could happen to our 2015 season!
I can just see the love Matrix is giving the Texans org this morning.
Looks like he may have to find another team to root for.
Wilfork you're up next, come on down.
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
If that happens we may as well start talking about FA QBs and the draft next year.
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
Gotta share your reservations.
Yes please!
Tomato>Tomoto
sandman
Brexit Advisor
Indeed. Was just asking for the sake of comparing contracts. I don't want to envision a scenario where Hoyer is the starter for this team.
dalemurphy
Hall of Fame
Texans may be reluctant to. Enter the season with a guy coming of a torn pectoral, backed up by a guy whose shin snapped like a twig a few months ago... By the way, can they cut Fitz? Isnt he protected as a guy on IR?
I'm still trying to figure out what's what.
I thought maybe Savage was part of the plan, but two years on the bench... I know Rivers sat three years & Rodgers sat three years, but they were both the #2 guy in their second year & waiting for an injury. Looks like we want to make sure Savage doesn't see the field & I don't get that.
I also don't get a 2 year deal with Mallett. Cheaper than I expected, sure. But all we've got is the franchise tag if he blows up, to keep him here, or leverage a long term deal. I suppose that's "normal" but I expected a built in team option so we're not paying Andy Dalton $100M three years from now.
If Hoyer grows a beard, I guess I could get behind him.
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infantrycak
Hall of Fame
To me it isn't Fitz > Hoyer. It's that they're two cats fighting in a bag...and I don't like cats. I'm certainly not spending an extra mil to upgrade the overpaid one I've got.
Mallett is a best option with potential decision. Brilliance is TBD down the road. If Mallett sinks and Bortles/Bridgewater turns out, brilliance won't be the word choice. If Mallett outshines them, then maybe so.
Hell I almost feel like we are at that point now .... unless they decide to go with one of Hundley , Grayson or Petty , not that I'd expect any of that group to produce this season .... but I don't expect anything more from Mallett or Hoyer than we got from Fitz.
8-8 , 9-7 here we come.
(sure hope I'm wrong)
cland
Rookie
Whelp, O'Brien promised us a QB competition and the Texans delivered. I'm definitely rooting for Mallett in the Mallet vs. Hoyer race. Like the rest of y'all I'm interested to see what turns out with Fitzpatrick, going to browse the gang green board to see if the Jets are panicking.
sandman
Brexit Advisor
Fitz is a career backup that has parlayed starting QB injuries into a career of actual playing experience. I think he is the consummate back-up and would be much more valuable to Mallett and the team as a whole than Hoyer. At least with Fitz you get his brains and experience. Not to mention mad locker room respect and wouldn't be seen as a threat.
Allstar
Bona fide
Rivers and Rodgers were first round picks. Savage went much later.
Mallett was always going to sign a very short 'prove it' deal. Don't know why this would surprise anyone.
WTH? We're cutting AJ and Myers, then wasting $$$ on this guy? That would get a LB, or a FS, a lot of players. Stunned.
Please, make a better offer, Jets. Please.
HOU-TEX
Ah, Football!
I'm grateful we were able to land both for what appears to be back up/prove it type contracts. I don't know why, but I thought we'd have to over pay for Mallett to come back. We can whack either next year without major repercussions.
I sure hope Mallett pans out. Otherwise, it's another year down the drain
I sure hope Mallett pans out. Otherwise, it's another year down the drain
cland
Rookie
Well thunderkyss, which gentleman's club would you like to take me to?
I just hope Savage gets a legitimate chance at the backup job. Hard for me to believe he won't be at least as good after another offseason and camp as Hoyer, and for less money.
It's the same thing with Schaub's first contract. Six years, $48M... decent starter money, but not "elite" or "franchise" QB money. Had Schaub shown to be an elite QB, which he was really close to, we would have had him on the cheap.
Three years from now if Mallett proves to be all that, we're going to be paying him $100M. Which may be the going rate, for mediocre nowadays, but I thought we'd want to avoid that.
It could have shown up in the form of a Roster bonus in year 3.
But, after reading McClain's comment:
It sounds like we didn't really want him to begin with. Mallett wanted to be here more than we wanted him here, according to reports that he turned down more than twice the money.
speedfreek
All Pro
Nightmare scenario:
Mallet, Hoyer, Fitzpatrick on roster for WAY TOO MUCH.
Keenum and Savage (the cheap ones) on the street.
Sometimes BoB's logic defies explaination -- like watching
UFO files or Haunted Mysteries, etc..
Mallet, Hoyer, Fitzpatrick on roster for WAY TOO MUCH.
Keenum and Savage (the cheap ones) on the street.
Sometimes BoB's logic defies explaination -- like watching
UFO files or Haunted Mysteries, etc..
It's because posters here assume NFL talent evaluators share their opinion that Mallett is the greatest quarterback who never played.