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Who's your quarterback - 2015 v2.0

Marshall said:
Unfortunately the market is not rational when it comes to QBs. He will get more because there is a need and he offers hope. Look what Fitz got last year and this is the floor. It's not what I'd like, but what will happen.
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Yeah he has ton's of market value. Best NE could get for him was a conditional 6th (it'll be a 7th) two years down the road. He's played one good game and one shitty game.

Fitz is a 10 year vet that has started and even won quite a few games. He's far from the floor also...

Mallett has expressed interest in staying here because he likes the system... whose gonna pay him big bucks?

Oakland?- Nope Al isn't there anymore
TB?- Nope, they'll be drafting Mariota
Tenn?- Nope, Mallett isn't that much different from Mettenberger
Jets? I'd worry here, but they'll be drafting Winston, a new HC and a new GM more than likely.
Cleveland?- Nope, the owner loves him some Johnny football

Chicago may be a concern
 
TEXANRED said:
I am not sold on Mallet. He is like the real life version of Wild Thing Rick Vaughn. All arm and no accuracy. No touch. The man has played football all of his life and he still doesn't understand you don't have to riffle it to a guy that is standing right next to you. Mallet couldn't hit water if he fell off of a boat against Cincy.

But we will see. Gotta re-sign him first.
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Did Brett Favre ever learn touch?
 
JB said:
what's Farve got to do with anything?
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Favre was known for throwing bullets, short passes, long passes, whatever. & he's going into the HOF.

So to say Mallett won't make it if he never learns to throw with touch isn't exactly accurate. Them receivers just need to man up.
 
thunderkyss said:
Favre was known for throwing bullets, short passes, long passes, whatever. & he's going into the HOF.

So to say Mallett won't make it if he never learns to throw with touch isn't exactly accurate. Them receivers just need to man up.
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Oh I thought he was talking about the accuracy not so much the rifle
 
thunderkyss said:
Favre was known for throwing bullets, short passes, long passes, whatever. & he's going into the HOF.

So to say Mallett won't make it if he never learns to throw with touch isn't exactly accurate. Them receivers just need to man up.
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The guy was injured for crying out loud, i do not see why people are using his injured game as proof he is inaccurate. He looked plenty accurate against the browns.
 
EllisUnit said:
The guy was injured for crying out loud, i do not see why people are using his injured game as proof he is inaccurate. He looked plenty accurate against the browns.
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I'm not saying anything about his accuracy for crying out loud. Firing bullets & telling receivers to man up has nothing to do with accuracy.
 
thunderkyss said:
I'm not saying anything about his accuracy for crying out loud. Firing bullets & telling receivers to man up has nothing to do with accuracy.
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hahaha talking about a 3 way circle jerk. He's quoting you and not realizing that you're responding to TexanRed
 
thunderkyss said:
I'm not saying anything about his accuracy for crying out loud. Firing bullets & telling receivers to man up has nothing to do with accuracy.
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Favre was my favorite quarterback aside from Montana and Young. If Mallett becomes anything like him then we struck gold. :heart:
 
man we are getting over loaded with QB's aren't we lol

to bad Fitz got hurt I think he could of been in the mix next year and it seems like the org really likes him

going into TC I think we could have alllootttt of QB's

Mallett
Fitz
Savage
Keenum
Rookie Draft QB....Maybe


that's a lot of QB's Two are going to have the be the odd man out
 
Norg said:
man we are getting over loaded with QB's aren't we lol

to bad Fitz got hurt I think he could of been in the mix next year and it seems like the org really likes him

going into TC I think we could have alllootttt of QB's

Mallett
Fitz
Savage
Keenum
Rookie Draft QB....Maybe


that's a lot of QB's Two are going to have the be the odd man out
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we know what we have in fitz. but the ceiling is unknown for mallet, savage, and keenum. mallet is my 1st choice but I think a 2-0 case vs savage next year is a fair assessment.
 
Norg said:
man we are getting over loaded with QB's aren't we lol

to bad Fitz got hurt I think he could of been in the mix next year and it seems like the org really likes him

going into TC I think we could have alllootttt of QB's

Mallett
Fitz
Savage
Keenum
Rookie Draft QB....Maybe


that's a lot of QB's Two are going to have the be the odd man out
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Well you know how the saying goes... "If you have two QBs, you really have none."
 
dream_team said:
Well you know how the saying goes... "If you have two QBs, you really have none."
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that's why Unless Bob really likes another sleeper QB in the draft or F/A

hes going to have a hard decision to make between on does he cut Keenum which he did once already or cut his Project in Savage ..?????


fitz is has good has gone and Mallett is the Penciled in starter
 
Norg said:
man we are getting over loaded with QB's aren't we lol

to bad Fitz got hurt I think he could of been in the mix next year and it seems like the org really likes him

going into TC I think we could have alllootttt of QB's

Mallett
Fitz
Savage
Keenum
Rookie Draft QB....Maybe


that's a lot of QB's Two are going to have the be the odd man out
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Not with proper use of IR and PS.
 
Right now the Texans have a mix of never-were and never-will-be quarterbacks on the roster. The one possible exception is Mallett. However as time passes from his solid performance against Cleveland, I start to question the wisdom of betting the house on a quarterback's one good game. That is not a very good sample size, even though I was as giddy about his performance as anyone. Mallett looked like he has the potential to be the franchise leading quarterback the Texans need, but we've been watching bad quarterbacks so long maybe he just looked good in comparison.

So my opinion is the quarterback position is as unsettled as it has ever been.
 
Runner said:
Right now the Texans have a mix of never-were and never-will-be quarterbacks on the roster. The one possible exception is Mallett. However as time passes from his solid performance against Cleveland, I start to question the wisdom of betting the house on a quarterback's one good game. That is not a very good sample size, even though I was as giddy about his performance as anyone. Mallett looked like he has the potential to be the franchise leading quarterback the Texans need, but we've been watching bad quarterbacks so long maybe he just looked good in comparison.

So my opinion is the quarterback position is as unsettled as it has ever been.
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I pointed this out in the weeks leading up to his 1st start...Definitely need to be cautious with resigning this guy b/c you likely weren't going to be any clearer in knowing what you have in him after the last 4-5 games of the season than you were before he made his 1st start...and we just got the schaub albatross contract off our necks. I'd hate to see us repeat that mistake with this guy based on little more than an average outing.
 
Runner said:
Right now the Texans have a mix of never-were and never-will-be quarterbacks on the roster. The one possible exception is Mallett. However as time passes from his solid performance against Cleveland, I start to question the wisdom of betting the house on a quarterback's one good game. That is not a very good sample size, even though I was as giddy about his performance as anyone. Mallett looked like he has the potential to be the franchise leading quarterback the Texans need, but we've been watching bad quarterbacks so long maybe he just looked good in comparison.

So my opinion is the quarterback position is as unsettled as it has ever been.
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If there is a QB they really like when they pick in the 1st then Mallett shouldn't stop the pick. But he should stop taking someone as a flyer just to do it.
 
EllisUnit said:
The guy was injured for crying out loud, i do not see why people are using his injured game as proof he is inaccurate. He looked plenty accurate against the browns.
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Yes we found out he was injured in the Cincy game and that almost assuredly caused him some problems with his accuracy that game....how much noone knows..however you can't automatically make the leap and say that the injury was why he had accuracy issues; especially when that's been a knock on him since he came into the league. Apart from that, we also saw more than a few questionable throws in both of his starts too....Even in the Browns game that everyone says he looked good in. That 1st pick he threw in the Cincy game that was negated by a penalty was a horrible decision by Mallett..and throughout the Cincy game and late in the Browns game when they started to heat him up, he didn't handle the pressure well at all.

Definitely not sold on annointed this guy as the starter going into 2015..at best, he needs to compete for it with Savage and another guy.
 
infantrycak said:
If there is a QB they really like when they pick in the 1st then Mallett shouldn't stop the pick. But he should stop taking someone as a flyer just to do it.
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I agree. I am not a fan of fliers, and given their draft position the Texans might be out of luck this year. If so, that just reinforces my opinion that they really blew it in the last draft when they passed on (the not-quite-perfect :rolleyes: ) Bortles.

As you have stated before, if they burn a 3rd or 4th rounder in the coming draft on a QB it will just be a wasted pick. They have plenty of those guys already. I'm of the opinion if they don't find a quality first rounder who is worth the draft position they should not take any QBs at all.

If a high quality QB isn't available in the draft, that leaves the Texans QB hopes riding on Mallett, if he doesn't pan out then maybe they draft a top QB in 2016, and they can get through his rookie season and then count on him to start performing in 2017.

2017. Did I mention I think it was mistake that they didn't draft Bortles?
 
I think if Case has a decent game against the Jags, he will effectively stick a fork in Fitz career as a Texan. Not because he's better, just simply for cap reasons. I wouldn't be shocked at all to roll into next Season with Mallett, Keenum and Savage and no QB drafted. So many areas need to be addressed and there's so little cap room.
 
My main concern about Mallett right now is durability.
Is he going to be like Locker and constantly hurt or was this just a freak injury?
 
Vinnie said:
I think if Case has a decent game against the Jags, he will effectively stick a fork in Fitz career as a Texan. Not because he's better, just simply for cap reasons. I wouldn't be shocked at all to roll into next Season with Mallett, Keenum and Savage and no QB drafted. So many areas need to be addressed and there's so little cap room.
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^^^^
This

I also think that fans are so negative about the QB position. Even if BOB drafts a QB in the 1st rd ther's no guarantee that he will be as good as Mallett is next yr. In fact it's likely said draft pick will be worse. Bortles has stunk it up for most of his rookie yr.
 
I still haven't heard any update on Mallet's injury. A week ago he had his arm in a sling. But it was rumored, several weeks ago, that it had been decided he would have surgery. But I haven't seen any update that he has had this performed. Or has there been a change of mind and he won't have the surgery? Or will the surgery be performed after the season? If surgery is still to be performed, postponing it postpones his recovery. So what's the most recent news?

Mallet's condition will determine what we do with the position going into OTA's and training camp. My understanding of the surgery he requires throws a question mark into his availability to start at the beginning of next season.
 
The Texans will be picking somewhere in the middle of the pack. Correct me if I'm wrong here, but are there really any QBs worth taking (that will be yet undrafted) with about the 15th pick in the 1st round? Or do we take a LB or a DB?

I just have a gut feeling that our first round pick in 2015 isn't going to be a QB.
 
I think that's more than just a gut feeling, I think that's reality. I'm guessing we go WR with the first pick. I'm afraid we'll be witnessing AJ's last game as a Texan next week. :cry2:
 
Vinnie said:
I think that's more than just a gut feeling, I think that's reality. I'm guessing we go WR with the first pick. I'm afraid we'll be witnessing AJ's last game as a Texan next week. :cry2:
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Needs to be,

I could just imagine how good this team could be if the Texans drafted Parker in Rd. 1. Traded back into the bottom of Rd.1 and took Kendricks.

Then signed Cobb./Virgil Green in FA. That would give Mallett better weapons than most of the NFL and improve the defenses greatest weaknesses.

Not going to happen because the Texans would never go after a big fish like Cobb in FA, but one can dream.
 
dream_team said:
If anyone, it would be Keenum on PS. Savage would most likely get plucked from the PS by another team.
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1) Keenum has no more PS availability
2) Honestly, I do not believe Savage is as good as most folks think.
If he is PS'd at the start of the season I bet he is there the entire
season.

If the Texans roll with Mallet only, and do not draft a guy, then I could
see this:

1) Mallet
2) Keenum (starting experience is more valuable than you think..)
3) Savage
 
First off, props to Case. He really played within his abilities yesterday, and was a crucial part of a team victory. Hopefully he can get another win against the Jags and get an invite to camp next year. O'Brien has nothing but praise for him, and I've got so much respect for a guy to go from practice squad on other team to starting against a good team trying to get into the playoffs. Kudos to Case! :clap:

TEXANRED said:
I am not sold on Mallet. He is like the real life version of Wild Thing Rick Vaughn. All arm and no accuracy. No touch. The man has played football all of his life and he still doesn't understand you don't have to riffle it to a guy that is standing right next to you. Mallet couldn't hit water if he fell off of a boat against Cincy.

But we will see. Gotta re-sign him first.
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I've gotta' disagree with you a little about Mallett's accuracy. We've only got the Browns game to review, but what we see in that game is an inexperienced QB playing against one of the better secondaries in the NFL. He made some great throws into some tight spaces. Accuracy is one of O'Brien's three points of importance for his QB. I have to believe in O'Brien's judgement if he chooses to go with Mallett.

Runner said:
Right now the Texans have a mix of never-were and never-will-be quarterbacks on the roster. The one possible exception is Mallett. However as time passes from his solid performance against Cleveland, I start to question the wisdom of betting the house on a quarterback's one good game. That is not a very good sample size, even though I was as giddy about his performance as anyone. Mallett looked like he has the potential to be the franchise leading quarterback the Texans need, but we've been watching bad quarterbacks so long maybe he just looked good in comparison.

So my opinion is the quarterback position is as unsettled as it has ever been.
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I understand where you're coming from, but I think the situation with O'Brien and Mallett is very unique and uncommon. They have a relationship for a year as rookie and OC, and Mallett sat the bench and learned this system from a HoF QB and HoF head coach for three seasons. That kind of history and training with a young QB is a luxury in today's NFL. Not to mention what Mallett learned from Brady as a QB, both in terms of off-season workouts, film room study, week-to-week game preparations, and how to lead a team as a QB.

You're not going to get all of that in a rookie. I tend to think we are closer to having our starting QB than not. He just needs to prove it, but I think Mallett is far ahead of anything we could ever get in a rookie or non-elite FA QB.
 
NYTexansFan said:
Fitz, Mallett, Savage, Keenum...go battle it out...may the best man win.
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I guess we could throw Keenum a bone? I really don't think he's the answer but whatever. Fitz is Fitz. Savage still needs development. It's Mallet Time.

By the way because I am endorsing Mallet, he will surely fail. Sorry bud.
 
NYTexansFan said:
Fitz, Mallett, Savage, Keenum...go battle it out...may the best man win.
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I've got other idea's ...

Ditch Fitz , he's not going to change his spots , we know what he is & he isn't going to lead us to the promised land.

Savage .... I think he's 2-3 years away from being a capable backup. Shoulda been on the PS this season. I'd cut him.

I'd resign Mallett & Keenum and let them fight it out .... along with drafting a QB early. Mariota is likely gone at or before #2. Winston , even with his off the field problems , I see someone taking him in the top 10.
Hundley & Dak Prescott are the next two prospects. Wouldn't take either with a mid first rounder where it appears the Texans will pick (13ish?) but I would consider making a move back into the tail end of the first round or earlier in the second round for one of them.
 
Vance87 said:
I guess we could throw Keenum a bone? I really don't think he's the answer but whatever. Fitz is Fitz. Savage still needs development. It's Mallet Time.

By the way because I am endorsing Mallet, he will surely fail. Sorry bud.
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I think Fitz showed improvement and better command in his last few games (and played turnover free football). Mallett impressed in his first game, flashing poise and a big arm, and Savage didn't look totally lost out there in his lone start. All three got to play and at least showed something more than we thought we might be getting. And yes, I guess Case deserves to be tossed a bone - well, let's maybe see what happens this upcoming week. Rather than draft or sign another free agent signal caller and start over again with development, let's let BOB continue to work with these guys. If the defense continues to play anything like it has the past couple of games, we can definitely win with one of the QB's we currently have on the roster. This team is progressing and is in the playoff hunt right down to the last week with a depleted roster and a carousel at QB. With the potential return of Clowney, a whole new draft, and the QB's coming back hopefully fresh and healthy, no reason to think this team can't take the division, or at the very least, secure a wildcard spot next year.
 
Corrosion said:
I've got other idea's ...

Ditch Fitz , he's not going to change his spots , we know what he is & he isn't going to lead us to the promised land.

Savage .... I think he's 2-3 years away from being a capable backup. Shoulda been on the PS this season. I'd cut him.

I'd resign Mallett & Keenum and let them fight it out .... along with drafting a QB early. Mariota is likely gone at or before #2. Winston , even with his off the field problems , I see someone taking him in the top 10.
Hundley & Dak Prescott are the next two prospects. Wouldn't take either with a mid first rounder where it appears the Texans will pick (13ish?) but I would consider making a move back into the tail end of the first round or earlier in the second round for one of them.
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The spots actually weren't that bad this season...95.3 QB rating/63 percent completions/4th in yards per attempt/19 TD's (2 rushing) to 8 INT's. Compare and contrast with other starters. The defense and special teams have come a long way since the beginning of the season. Compare the first game where Fitz put up 28 and lost to Indy to the second game where far fewer points were needed. Do you think Savage, Keenum, or even Mallett put up the 34 points needed to win that first game? Or against Pitt? While Mallett looked good against Cleveland, 10 offensive points would have done the job that week, and any of these QB's would have rolled against the Ravens.
 
Corrosion said:
Savage .... I think he's 2-3 years away from being a capable backup. Shoulda been on the PS this season. I'd cut him.
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Out of curiosity, why are you so down on Savage? I'm guessing you didn't like him even before the draft... because he's rarely been on the field for us fans to make any kind of judgement on him.
 
NYTexansFan said:
The spots actually weren't that bad this season...95.3 QB rating/63 percent completions/4th in yards per attempt/19 TD's (2 rushing) to 8 INT's. Compare and contrast with other starters. The defense and special teams have come a long way since the beginning of the season. Compare the first game where Fitz put up 28 and lost to Indy to the second game where far fewer points were needed. Do you think Savage, Keenum, or even Mallett put up the 34 points needed to win that first game? Or against Pitt? While Mallett looked good against Cleveland, 10 offensive points would have done the job that week, and any of these QB's would have rolled against the Ravens.
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I don't think anyone believes Keenum is more talented than Fitz. It's simply a numbers game, Fitz will be expensive and Keenum will be dirt cheap. The Texans need dirt cheap at the moment.
 
Keenum
Mallett
Savage


we wont draft a QB we go into year 2 of the rebuilding era with that cast LOL

Unless a good QB falls to the mid range rounds ... so yeah better hope that Keenum Magic last for a long time
 
I would be surprised if Keenum is back here next season. I am happy for him in this big win, but it was not because of anything he did, other than get rid of the ball and not take 20 yard sacks.

I have a feeling you will see the old Keenum against the Jags, because they are going to blitz a lot! Our defense will have to win that game also.

Keenum is still Keenum, and the win against the Ravens does not change that.
 
Nitrofish said:
I would be surprised if Keenum is back here next season. I am happy for him in this big win, but it was not because of anything he did, other than get rid of the ball and not take 20 yard sacks.

I have a feeling you will see the old Keenum against the Jags, because they are going to blitz a lot! Our defense will have to win that game also.

Keenum is still Keenum, and the win against the Ravens does not change that.
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Lot of hate their Nitro. Baltimore blitzed him quite a bit. The OL picked it up, or Keenum got rid of the ball. He did a good job.

Hopefully next week, he'll complete some of those throws & if we get into the play-offs (which I do not expect) he'll rise to the occasion.


Things generally don't go as planned & you've got to make due with what you've got. This seems like exactly the kind of fk'dup scenario that would end with the Texans in the Super Bowl.

I'm not saying we're the best team in football. I'm not saying Keenum is a Super Bowl caliber QB. Just that it's when you least expect it...
 
speedfreek said:
1) Keenum has no more PS availability
2) Honestly, I do not believe Savage is as good as most folks think.
If he is PS'd at the start of the season I bet he is there the entire
season.

If the Texans roll with Mallet only, and do not draft a guy, then I could
see this:

1) Mallet
2) Keenum (starting experience is more valuable than you think..)
3) Savage
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I'm not sure that is still true. The PS eligibility has changed significantly. I think either Keenum or Savage would get plucked off the PS if there though. QB is a position where everybody need a better one to either start, backup or challenge the ones who are. And fewer teams are willing to take a chance on only two QBs on their squad
 
dream_team said:
Out of curiosity, why are you so down on Savage? I'm guessing you didn't like him even before the draft... because he's rarely been on the field for us fans to make any kind of judgement on him.
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Why would anyone realistically be up on Savage? He played a little bit this year and didn't do very well. If he played on an opposing team the board would be calling him weak. Instead "he showed flashes of potential" and "looks like he could be the franchise quarterback the Texans have been looking for".

I'm not sure what that is based on, other than the uniform.
 
Vance87 said:
I guess we could throw Keenum a bone? I really don't think he's the answer but whatever. Fitz is Fitz. Savage still needs development. It's Mallet Time.

By the way because I am endorsing Mallet, he will surely fail. Sorry bud.
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you have to agree flacco is pretty good too, right?
 
Nitrofish said:
...because they are going to blitz a lot! Our defense will have to win that game also.
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That's nothing new. The defense (sprinkled with the running game) has been the major component in every Texan win this season. It's a good defense, with one of the greatest defenders to ever play the game. But, it's not the '85 Bears. That's why the Texans aren't going to the playoffs and that's why they need a QB.
 
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