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Who's your quarterback - 2015 v2.0
- Thread starter Corrosion
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Pressure makes diamonds.
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
Hey for $10k you can get granny made into a diamond - Loved one diamonds.
That's pocket money for McNair.
The Pencil Neck
Hall of Fame
Hey for $10k you can get granny made into a diamond - Loved one diamonds.
That's pocket money for McNair.
Pocket money? Pffft. That's the spare change he finds hidden beneath the cushions of his couch.
I'm not too excited about bringing Fitzpatrick back. Today, Case did a pretty good Fitzpatrick impersonation. Nothing fancy, not putting the team on his back, doing enough to move the ball, not doing anything stupid.
I just don't see much of a future with Fitz or Case. If we sign him & he continues to be a Texan, fine... I'll root for him. If he moves on & gets a chance to start for someone else, fine... I'll root for him.
speedfreek
All Pro
Case might not have been a world beater today, but it was
clear that he got the ball out quicker and was more decisive.
IMO, Fitz wouldn't have done much better against the Ravens D.
If I were calling the shots, I would sign Mallett, cut Fitz, and
take Case into camp next year.
If you sign a QB in the mid first round, he won't be an NFL starter
for at least a year.
My QB's going into next year would be
1) Mallet starter
2) Keenum backup (cheaper than Fitz, probably just as good also..)
3) New guy
PS) Savage.
BoB should have learned this year that having backups with no
starting experience is a bad idea.. (which is why Case was brought back)
clear that he got the ball out quicker and was more decisive.
IMO, Fitz wouldn't have done much better against the Ravens D.
If I were calling the shots, I would sign Mallett, cut Fitz, and
take Case into camp next year.
If you sign a QB in the mid first round, he won't be an NFL starter
for at least a year.
My QB's going into next year would be
1) Mallet starter
2) Keenum backup (cheaper than Fitz, probably just as good also..)
3) New guy
PS) Savage.
BoB should have learned this year that having backups with no
starting experience is a bad idea.. (which is why Case was brought back)
I wouldn't mind this at all. Doubt if Savage would go on the practice squad though since that is OB's guy. He probably doesn't want to risk anybody picking him up.
EllisUnit
Vote RED!!!
This performance by Keanum has to be one of if not the best of the season by Houstons quarterbacks . It helps that OB called a little more creative game plan as well . Good job but should of come sooner .
I would have to put the 6 TD game by Fitz as the best of the season....
true but we faced a tough ravens team.
I agree with you, but I don't know what OB will do. If Keenum wins again next week, then I can see OB wanting him back instead of Fitz. But who knows.
ATXtexanfan
Hall of Fame
This
NYTexansFan
Waterboy
Who would you like to see behind center next season and why?
ok, assuming Mariota is gone ( he will be ) who would you draft in the mid first?
And will a rookie beat out Savage (who'll have a years exp learning the system) to put Savage on the PS?
Why?
Mallett looked like the best QB on the roster when he got a chance to play. Savage looked shaky at first, but finished strong.
They both (Mallett & Savage) have playing experience now.
& Thad Lewis started 6 games in his career.
NYTexansFan
Waterboy
"Looked like the best QB on the roster". He is tall and has a big arm. Now, those attributes must translate to performance. For all the praise he got for the Browns game, his numbers and point total for that game were on par or slightly below Fitz's average game for the year. And Fitz is putting up those numbers without the tools and physical prowess of Mallett. I think you let those two battle it out next summer. Savage may have potential, but was raw and finished with an INT and put up 3 points on offense in 3 quarters. You were probably very critical of Fitz's first game against Indy where the offense rallied from a big deficit and lost 33-28, but I'm sure according to you that was a weak QB performance.
Mallett, because this offense looked like a pro offense when he ran it. He's tall, he's got a strong arm, he knows when to be aggressive, he knows when to hurry up the offense, when to press an advantage.
Mallett running this offense, with this defense for 10 games is a sure fire play off team.
I think you let Fitz go. Or name him as the backup. There's no reason to muddy the water by putting Fitz into the competition. We know what he can do, and it's not good enough. Mallett may /should improve. Savage may/should improve. QB X may be the answer. Fitz is not the answer.
The numbers may have been the same. But it was obvious to me that Mallett controlled that game from the QB position more than Fitz had any game this season.
If you want to cross your fingers & hope the defense puts us in good position, then maybe we get lucky & punch it in the endzone... yeah, Fitz could do just as well.
But if you want an offense that carries it's weight... Fitz isn't your guy.
In all honesty, Mallett may not be the guy either. But I'm willing to invest a few games next season to find out. I'm not willing to invest one game to find out Fitzpatrick is not the guy he's been for 10 years. I'd rather move on to Savage & find out if he's the guy.
When they sign Mallett, we'll know what's what. I don't think Mallett will sign for $3.25M/yr, he'll more than likely get $6+ million & it'll be plain as day... no QB competition, Mallett is our starter.
The QB battle will be Tom Savage proving that he deserves second team snaps. If he proves that, then it's going to be hard to justify keeping Fitzpatrick.
ATXtexanfan
Hall of Fame
Bingo
NYTexansFan
Waterboy
Had the defense been playing anywhere close to where it's been playing of late earlier in the season, Fitz is more than good enough. If a team with a good defense can't find a way to win with a qb that produces 19 TD's (2 rushing) to 8 int's and a 95.3 rating and who is showing great improvement of late, then something is wrong elsewhere. Have you actually watched some of the QB'ing around the league? You're going to stake everything in a guy with a QB rating in the 70's and 2 TD 2 INT (Mallett) or a mid round project with 0 TD and 1 INT and one start? With the way the defense is playing of late, you don't let go of a QB you could theoretically win 11 to 12 games next year with...
why the hell would the Texans or any team give him a year? He's played 2 games and looked like total **** in the most recent one.
I think maybe 2 million for a year with an option for another. Then he can prove himself and so can the Texans.
I will throw you a bone. If this staff gets sand in their vagina as easily as Kubiak's crew, I can see Fitz coming back next year, as the back up.
Which was why I knew there was no real competition for the back-up spot last season. Kubiak was going to go with the guy with experience, thinking that meant he was more likely to win.
It's possible that OB would decide they have a better chance to win with Fitzpatrick's experience than they do with Savage's ability to stretch the field.
I'll lose a lot of respect I just gained for him, but it is possible.
I've watched Fitz. In the meat of the schedule, he failed. Great against the dregs of the league. Against good teams, he's over matched. Which is why he was benched (at least a game too late, IMO).
I don't know who the QB for the Texans should be going forward. I don't know if that QB is on the roster. I do know that QB is not Ryan Fitzpatrick.
Now, let's give Case Keenum his thread back. He deserves it.
The Texans will want to sign him to a long term deal to lock in his cost at today's dollars.
Mallett will want a short term deal to prove he can play in this league & get to FA quicker.
More than likely it will be structured so that he doesn't get $6M+ in his first two years. Then balloon in his third. Allowing him to prove that he's worth the big pay-day.
But there is no benefit for him to play for us on a one year deal with a team option for a second.
I see your point, and concede that it may be a 3 or 4 year deal. But it's disingenuous to say (or infer) he's going to sign for $6 million a year
PHILLYTEXANFAN
Saddle Up Partner
Hope he goes to the Tits
bah007
Hall of Fame
Oh please no...
You know someone was going to suggest it. May as well be me.
bah007
Hall of Fame
Next year I expect we'll look like this:
1. Mallett
2. Keenum/Fitzpatrick
3. Savage
I'd prefer to let Fitz go but Keenum might want to go somewhere he can start. That idea has run it's course here and we know where it ends. He's not a half bad option as the backup though. If he wants to go then Fitz would unfortunately be the best backup option.
1. Mallett
2. Keenum/Fitzpatrick
3. Savage
I'd prefer to let Fitz go but Keenum might want to go somewhere he can start. That idea has run it's course here and we know where it ends. He's not a half bad option as the backup though. If he wants to go then Fitz would unfortunately be the best backup option.
That's not gonna happen. Keenum could find a backup job and fall into some starts. No one is handing him the keys from the jump.
How about Cutler AND Harvin? Two negatives make a positive. I saw that on Bill Nye the Science Guy.
Thorn
Dirty Old Man
As long as Cutler slips on a banana peel and misses the season, maybe.
I'd like them to just throw Mallet, Savage, Keenum and a very highly drafted QB into next years training camp.
TEXANRED
Texan-American
How about Kapernick? With Harbaugh out in San Fran he may be available for a trade. Savage, and Hoyer are the top FA QB's.
Thorn
Dirty Old Man
I'm not sure that Kapernick is BoB's type of QB. I think that BoB is itching to start Mallet and make him The Guy. I think that BoB thinks more of Mallet and Savage than he does of Keenum, no matter what Keenum does next week.
I could be wrong, but that's my impression.
TEXANRED
Texan-American
I am not sold on Mallet. He is like the real life version of Wild Thing Rick Vaughn. All arm and no accuracy. No touch. The man has played football all of his life and he still doesn't understand you don't have to riffle it to a guy that is standing right next to you. Mallet couldn't hit water if he fell off of a boat against Cincy.
But we will see. Gotta re-sign him first.
Mallett was playing with that pesky torn pec. And the TD to JJ had some touch.
Didn't Rick Vaughn win the pennant? I'd be OK with that.
PHILLYTEXANFAN
Saddle Up Partner
Mallet the starter with Savage as the backup
TEXANRED
Texan-American
After he got glasses. Maybe that's what he needs?
EllisUnit
Vote RED!!!
You didn't know it is easy to throw with a torn pec ? Jeesh i hear you run better with a pulled hamstring as well.
EllisUnit
Vote RED!!!
Accuracy was awesome against the browns pre injury, accuracy was horrible against the Bengals post injury. You honestly make no sense with the argument.
TEXANRED
Texan-American
Making an observation. One good game, one terrible game, and if he was that injured what was he doing throwing 45 passes? But how the Texans have handled injured players is a topic for a different thread.
EllisUnit
Vote RED!!!
100% positive the coaches did not know the extent of the injury, not like Mallet did. But the kid had waited 3 seasons for his chance, i don't blame him for keeping hush hush.
