Mr. White
Retired OLine Coach
The last one I saw was a screencap of Jake Plummer flipping off the crowd from the bench back when it was rumored that Kubes was trying to trade for him.
I think Hulk75 or QB75 posted it.
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The Johnny "Football" Manziel NFL thread
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The last one I saw was a screencap of Jake Plummer flipping off the crowd from the bench back when it was rumored that Kubes was trying to trade for him.
I think Hulk75 or QB75 posted it.
BullNation4Life
All Pro
Johnny Backup....
"Coach, coach, let me in, I can win this game!"
"Johnny, backup...back the F up..."
"Coach, coach, let me in, I can win this game!"
"Johnny, backup...back the F up..."
xtruroyaltyx
Hall of Fame
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BullNation4Life
All Pro
xtruroyaltyx
Hall of Fame
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Playoffs
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HOU-TEX
Ah, Football!
xtruroyaltyx
Hall of Fame
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As an A&M fan you should thank your lucky stars that Mack Brown chose not to recruit JM and that JM chose to attend A&M. He made A&M relative for the 1st time since the Jackie Sherrill wrecking crew days.
It would be foolish to sit JM just to humble him. If your the Browns you drafted JM, you do everything you can to, 1. Make sure you do everything you can to make sure JM will be successful for a long time. 2. Get him ready to play as soon as possible. How long is that? Who knows, but benching JM to teach him some kind of lesson is very Kubiak/Aggie like. Attitudes like yours is the reason A&M will become irrelevant in the near future and yes I know about their recruiting classes.
xtruroyaltyx
Hall of Fame
They're sitting him because he's not ready. Doesn't have a good enough grasp on the play book, not good mechanically or reading defenses, a bit immature, does not have a good feel from the pocket, and just overall hasn't adjusted to the NFL game.
You can't have your starting QB in the huddle getting help with play calls from other players.
You can't have your starting QB in the huddle getting help with play calls from other players.
This. He looked awful on Monday. He was throwing behind receivers multiple times and whe he tried to outrun defenders like he did in college, he would get stopped.
He does have the talent, but if he keeps disrespecting other players like he did on Monday, his career will not last long.
Your explanation is way more respect than he deserves as a response.
You are well respected around Texans Talk for many, many reasons. Nobody but a troll or a noob would question it, and that dude ain't new around here.
What Manziel did at A&M is irrelevant to the NFL. No pro football player gives a crap what someone accomplished in college. Some of the greatest college players have turned into busts at the pro level.
Manziel has floated through his football career without learning some basic fundamentals of his position. I see intermediate school QBs learning playbooks, check downs, route trees, and pre-snap reads. Manziel reminds me a lot of VY in that both were coddled through school ball and allowed to win with their athleticism and throwing air balls against lesser talent. Now at the pro level, their lack of sound fundamental lessons at early ages reveals itself. And since they never had to be accountable at younger age, their immaturity reveals itself in a myriad of ways.
Manziel decided to party with Bieber and a bunch of other vapid celebrities instead of putting in his time in the off-season classroom. Carrying around a playbook means absolutely nothing when you are not actually learning it.
And now the truth comes out that he has been unable to learn the playbook, and the sad part is that he's such a narcissist that he appears unfazed that his teammates have to put training wheels on him in the huddle. Most players with a pro mentality would be ashamed and embarrassed at such a story. But not Manziel, which says more about him than any gesture he makes during a game.
xtruroyaltyx
Hall of Fame
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htownfan32
Hall of Fame
Spoken like a true Horn. At least we won't be irrelevant because we kicked off half our team...
mattieuk
All Pro
Lol - only the Browns could screw up taking a QB in the first round like this.
I don't even know where they go from here. Another strong pre-season game, and Shaw has to have leapfrogged Johnny in the depth chart. Then are you in trade Hoyer and start Shaw territory to keep Manziel as the backup for now?
Blurgh - what a mess.
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
Your explanation is way more respect than he deserves as a response.
You are well respected around Texans Talk for many, many reasons. Nobody but a troll or a noob would question it, and that dude ain't new around here.
What Manziel did at A&M is irrelevant to the NFL. No pro football player gives a crap what someone accomplished in college. Some of the greatest college players have turned into busts at the pro level.
Manziel has floated through his football career without learning some basic fundamentals of his position. I see intermediate school QBs learning playbooks, check downs, route trees, and pre-snap reads. Manziel reminds me a lot of VY in that both were coddled through school ball and allowed to win with their athleticism and throwing air balls against lesser talent. Now at the pro level, their lack of sound fundamental lessons at early ages reveals itself. And since they never had to be accountable at younger age, their immaturity reveals itself in a myriad of ways.
Manziel decided to party with Bieber and a bunch of other vapid celebrities instead of putting in his time in the off-season classroom. Carrying around a playbook means absolutely nothing when you are not actually learning it.
And now the truth comes out that he has been unable to learn the playbook, and the sad part is that he's such a narcissist that he appears unfazed that his teammates have to put training wheels on him in the huddle. Most players with a pro mentality would be ashamed and embarrassed at such a story. But not Manziel, which says more about him than any gesture he makes during a game.
^^^^This. And Manziel has demonstrated no ability to adhere to the concept of a playbook.
Dan B.
Hall of Fame
I'm not gonna lie. As a Horns fan it feels great to watch Aggies attempt to make excuses for underachieving 4 star recruits when they get arrested for the umpteenth time.
Scooter
Funky
i'm not getting into the college discussion, obviously i shouldn't even have posted my allegiance but nice job running into left field with it. to the bolded however. what's your suggestion? humbling an immature narcissist is a bad idea in your opinion, and those things are keeping him from becoming a professional. let's hear it. "do everything you can ..." except for that. they could give him a digital playbook to carry into las vegas strip clubs, that might work. they could have his teammates tell him what play he's running in the huddle ... seems like a good idea. i'm eager to hear other thoughts on making him a great success by enabling the things putting him on a path to be out of the league at 25.
or is my attitude towards him the only thing you wanted to post about.
Honoring Earl 34
Something Witty !
Your explanation is way more respect than he deserves as a response.
You are well respected around Texans Talk for many, many reasons. Nobody but a troll or a noob would question it, and that dude ain't new around here.
What Manziel did at A&M is irrelevant to the NFL. No pro football player gives a crap what someone accomplished in college. Some of the greatest college players have turned into busts at the pro level.
Manziel has floated through his football career without learning some basic fundamentals of his position. I see intermediate school QBs learning playbooks, check downs, route trees, and pre-snap reads. Manziel reminds me a lot of VY in that both were coddled through school ball and allowed to win with their athleticism and throwing air balls against lesser talent. Now at the pro level, their lack of sound fundamental lessons at early ages reveals itself. And since they never had to be accountable at younger age, their immaturity reveals itself in a myriad of ways.
Manziel decided to party with Bieber and a bunch of other vapid celebrities instead of putting in his time in the off-season classroom. Carrying around a playbook means absolutely nothing when you are not actually learning it.
And now the truth comes out that he has been unable to learn the playbook, and the sad part is that he's such a narcissist that he appears unfazed that his teammates have to put training wheels on him in the huddle. Most players with a pro mentality would be ashamed and embarrassed at such a story. But not Manziel, which says more about him than any gesture he makes during a game.
Are saying that he's a match about to burn out and he better have sacked all the fame seeking hot chicks because his Beiber days will end soon enough . He has dozens of friends and the fun never ends as long as he's buying .
htownfan32
Hall of Fame
Yeah, it sucks, but at least our team wasn't filled with rapists. Besides, our last quarterback to get arrested won the Heisman. Kenny Hill's already taken care of that. All he needs to do now is beat Bama.
I think everyone knew there was going to be some development with Manziel. But, I'd have thought he'd be ready to call plays in the huddle. They might not have used a playbook, but surely they had plays. Even if he has to wear one of those cheat-sheets on his wrist......
But yeah, the Browns have Hoyer, Manziel, & Shaw (I like Shaw) so that's three pretty good prospects for a starting QB. Chances are pretty good that one of them will be the QB they need over the next three to five years, maybe more.
That is a classic funny comment. It's VY all over again. Too bad J8B didn't end up on the Titans.
I am all for being a "fanboy" if your favorite college player ends up on a NFL team that you root for. I wholeheartedly admit that I was an Earl Campbell "fanboy". However if he would have ended up on the Browns I probably would not have liked him at all, especially because he would have been playing against the Oilers. Also, I was 10 years old, an acceptable age to be a "fanboy".
Like I said earlier, just off of the top of my head I have been a fan of more Aggies in the NFL than Horns, simply because growing up an Oilers fan I can remember more Aggies like Ray Childress and even guys like Bucky Richardson (not a good NFL player but was fun to watch in the preseason). I know there are several more. Besides Earl, how many great Horns were on the Oilers? Tony Jones was fun to watch for a couple of seasons.
Also I could be wrong, but I think as a whole, in the last 20 years there has been more successful Aggies in the NFL than Horns. Not sure why that is besides Mack's coddling of players, however it seems that way.
My other favorite childhood team growing up was the creamsicle Bucs. I loved Lee Roy Selmon and he was a Sooner. I had his jersey as a kid at the same time I was sporting my Earl jersey.
I guess it's because I am more of a fan of the NFL. To me college football on Saturday's is the opening act or warmup for the games on Sunday.
I guess what I am getting at is, I don't get people being overly gaga over players that went to their school at the NFL level when they are not playing on teams that they root for. I didn't get it with Vince Young and I don't get it with J8B.
dc_txtech
All Pro
Doc, you need to lay off the juice.
How far will you take your Johnny Football love Stemp?
I'm betting on you giving up halfway through next season.
Dan B.
Hall of Fame
Fred
Veteran
Woot! Looks like football rankings - SEC has the top 5 spots! Only mostly different teams. Hey - Vandy and Kentucky - stop holding the conference back! If you can't build a top 10 football team, then at least have your team's underage drinkers show the cops a fake ID.
htownfan32
Hall of Fame
Wow, still no rapists on the squad.
If we're playing the rankings game, how does it feel to be outrecruited by Miss State? Strong is really working out for y'all. I forget, is he bringing in enough players to make up for the guys kicked off?
Dan B.
Hall of Fame
WRT Mississippi State I'd be a lot more worried about em if I were an Aggie considering y'all will be battling it out with them for sixth in your seven team division.
WRT Strong it feels pretty good. I'm more excited about UT football than I have been in years. I like the fact that they got a coach with a chip on his shoulder that holds his players accountable and has a solid resume (I saw him the other night as DC for Florida when they were on the SEC Network. I think Texas will be much happier with Strong than they would have been with Muschamp). I like that he will demote or expel a player (no matter what his recruiting ranking may be) if that athlete won't respect and abide by he rules he agreed to honor. He may fall on his face but I really don't think he will.
TexansSeminole
Hall of Fame
You won't have to worry about recruiting, Strong is an excellent recruiter.
xtruroyaltyx
Hall of Fame
It's been brought up before that he didn't attend many off season activities with the team.
Anyone that looked at Manziel objectively could see that he has some maturity issues.
Now we could debate his on field stuff all day, but there should be no doubt that he wasn't/isn't all that mature.
Dan B.
Hall of Fame
I'm not worried about it. I also like that Texas is adopting a different system than most schools in Texas. While A&M, Tech, Baylor, and UH are going spread first Texas will be targeting defense and the lines. Ultimately though I just feel that Strong will get more from his players than Mack did. I think teams reflect the personality of their coach and I expect Texas to be tough, intense, and disciplined.
xtruroyaltyx
Hall of Fame
2012
2013
http://www.star-telegram.com/2013/07/08/4989089/johnny-manziels-private-coach.html
Off-season workouts are longer than 8 days or 3 weeks.
What was he doing for the rest of the time?
HOU-TEX
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Wolf
100% Texan
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Johhny clipboard tshirts
Johhny clipboard tshirts
That sho is lots of $$$$.
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
You mean Johnny Bench?
False Start
On # 69
xtruroyaltyx
Hall of Fame
I'm trying to figure out what kind of package they are going to put in for Manziel.
He hasn't done anything that makes me think he deserves a special set of plays for him. I mean...If they are going off of his college stuff...then ok...
But so far he's shown that he is not ready as a passer and his running ability is not as impressive as it was in college and could lead to him getting hurt.
Just let the guy sit and learn all year and then give him a crack next year. He's not ready.
Playoffs
Hall of Fame
Wow... they're not playing around, got his "package" on the table.
If that's what it takes to get him in line, whatever. Just threaten to put my package on a table & I'd straighten up.
PapaL
Loose Screw
Must be the 8 Ball package.
A leaked copy of the entire Manziel playbook:
To his credit, though, they can also go left with it.
mattieuk
All Pro
Lol - MSR.
Unfortunately they don't trust him to flip the direction at the line of scrimmage.
To help him remember the opening series though, they helpfully went for a Right, Left, Right, Left, Right, Left, Right pattern.
Actually, probably should be Right, Left, Right, Curse, Punt.