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The Johnny "Football" Manziel NFL thread

From Deadspin:

Looks Like Johnny Manziel Just Found Out Everyone Saw Him Flip The Bird

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That's Browns PR guy Rob McBurnett on the left side of the screen likely informing Johnny Manziel that his middle finger will be a full-blown Thing tomorrow. Manziel's reaction is perfect. This is body language that screams man, I am an idiot but, goddammit, why can't they let me live?
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LANDOVER, Md. -- Cleveland Browns quarterback Johnny Manziel extended his middle finger toward the Washington Redskins bench after a third-quarter incompletion during Monday night's 24-23 preseason loss.

Manziel flipped the bird toward the Redskins after the play that unfolded in front of Washington's bench.

Manziel said he had "words exchanged" with the Redskins and that he should have been smarter.

"I felt like I did a good job of holding my composure throughout the night, and you have a lapse of judgment and slip up," Manziel said.

Asked in his postgame news conference if he thought it was wrong, Manziel smiled before laughing.

"I mean, I didn't think it was positive," Manziel said, before adding he couldn't blame it on distractions, repeating he had simply lost his composure.

Manziel was not penalized, though he could have been for unsportsmanlike conduct or taunting.

The NFL no doubt will review the tape, and Manziel will be subject to an $11,025 fine. He can appeal his first fine, and it can be limited to 25 percent of a weekly check of close to $6,200.

"It did not sit well," Browns coach Mike Pettine said. "I was informed of it after the game and it's disappointing. Because what we talk about is being poised and being focused -- that you have to be able to maintain your poise."

The gesture occurred with 2:28 left in the third quarter.

"That's a big part of all football players, especially the quarterback, that we have to keep our composure," Pettine said. "So that's something that we'll obviously address with him."

On a second-and-7 play, Manziel dropped back, rolled left to escape the rush and threw across his body just before reaching the sidelines. The pass to Jonathan Krause fell incomplete.

Manziel may have heard something from the home bench, because as he trotted back to the huddle in the nationally televised game he extended his middle finger over his right shoulder toward the bench.

Brian Hoyer, who is competing with Manziel for the starting quarterback job, didn't seem impressed by the gesture.

"You've got to know the cameras are always on you," Hoyer said.

It wouldn't have been the first time Manziel was mocked by the Redskins.

Linebacker Brian Orakpo, who called the middle-finger gesture "hilarious," celebrated a teammate's sack of the quarterback in the first quarter by giving Manziel's Drake/money gesture, for which he is well known.

After forcing the Browns to punt with Manziel at quarterback, Orakpo stopped near the yard marker in front of the Redskins sideline and again gave the money sign.

Manziel had struggled throughout the game -- going 5-for-13 for 49 yards and one sack before the gesture.

He completed the drive after the gesture with a touchdown that came on a short drop pass that Dion Lewis ran into the end zone.

"I should have been smarter," Manziel said. "The cameras were solidly on me. I need to be smarter about that."
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"I need to be smarter about THAT"??? You just need to be something that you are never going to be.................SMARTER, period.
 
thunderkyss said:
I liked how Kyle Shanahan had a little one on one after Johnny dove head first into a swarm of LBs. "Don't do that sht again!!"
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CloakNNNdagger said:
And he's going to listen to his coach, right?
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thunderkyss said:
Why wouldn't he?

This is his livelihood now.
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CloakNNNdagger said:
If he does it, it will be for survival....not because his coach tells him to.
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Manziel took very little away from his little fatherly talk by Shanahan.........during his runs this last game, as expected, he again dove head first several times.
 
I went to the browns board and it kind if surprised me how many of their fans don't like manziel, wish they wouldn't have drafted him and because if last night think shaw should move ahead of him on the depth chart and get serious starting consideration.
 
Maybe Cleveland will cut Shaw and the Texans sign him. Dude looked better than the other two, but he was playing against the third stringers.

Also, Colt McCoy looked good as well, made the game winning TD at the end.
 
Man...Guys are going to be talking so much isht to JM...

Now they know how easy he is to get off his game and get into his head.
 
xtruroyaltyx said:
GM asked Manziel to tone it down and the next week he's back in the headlines after partying with Justin Beiber, having the cops called...twice....

Then says he's not changing for anyone...
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Off-field, I don't see him changing until/unless he's forced to or he matures a bit.

htownfan32 said:
I thought the same thing when I saw him make the completion.

Manziel reminds me a lot of Keenum in being oblivious to the blitz right in front of his face pre-snap.
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With the same teacher, that's not surprising.
 
xtruroyaltyx said:
That too.

If the games are called like this in the regular season I'm not watching any NFL games...Maybe the Texans occasionally, but this is more unbearable to me than the NBA...

I can't stomach teams just moving down field based on weak ass calls. Teams are in 3rd and 18 situations...Get a 5 yard holding penalty...automatic first...rinse repeat...
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I was thinking the same thing last weekend. If this is the future of the NFL, I might not be interested in the product anymore. That is something I never thought I'd say, but it is not enjoyable to watch when they micromanage players and rule by flag.

We thought the NFL was evolving in into the National Flagfootball League, but we did not realize that it would be yellow flags and not the ones on the hips of players.

Mr teX said:
And of course .........he does something not related to his play on the field that's gonna extend the nonstop coverage on this chump for another week....just when i thought that this Manziel crap was finally gonna start dying down :vincepalm:
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Yeah, unfortunately, media coverage is dictated directly by jersey sales these days. Once the public grows tired of this flavor of the month, they will stop buying his jersey and the media saturation should end.

xtruroyaltyx said:
I went to the browns board and it kind if surprised me how many of their fans don't like manziel, wish they wouldn't have drafted him and because if last night think shaw should move ahead of him on the depth chart and get serious starting consideration.
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I went to a Browns board after you posted this, and it is a bit surprising at some of the vitriol being thrown at Manziel. It is like the height of the Carr Wars days on the Texans boards with the decisive attitudes, except Manziel has not even played a down of meaningful pro football.

Vinny said:
they started selling these for the Cleveland/Pittsburgh game.

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:spit:

If those are real, I might have to order one just for giggles.
 
Mr. White said:
What's the big deal? We all did that when we were in our 20's.

/sarcasm
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I'm actually at odds trying to figure out why I've never seen it before.

I mean I've seen owners do it, but that's the first time I've seen a player get caught on camera.
 
Anybody notice that with Zebras throwing flags like it was confetti all night, they never thought of throwing one for Manziel's finger salute.
 
johnny Manziel flipped off the Washington bench in front of the entire nation on Monday night, and the only explanation he provided for the deliriously excited throng of reporters in his postgame presser was a vague statement that "words were exchanged." Thanks to Washington safety Ryan Clark, we now know what those words were.

"I can tell you what the statement was that set him off. The statement was ... This isn't college anymore and these people are faster than you are," Clark said Tuesday morning on ESPN's Mike and Mike. "He didn't like it. That was me cleaning up the statement but that's pretty close to what it was."

To be honest, that sounds pretty tame, even with the assumed expletives removed. It's safe to assume that Manziel has heard his fair share of trash talk over the last two-plus years, and there has to have been some more creative material than that.

In any event, the Washington players got an expected kick out of Manziel's response.

"It was hilarious," said linebacker Brian Orakpo, who mocked Manziel's patented money gesture to celebrate a first-half sack. "We were messing with him a little bit, just saying this ain't college and stuff like that. We were having a little fun. Manziel flipped us off. It was something funny. We were all laughing on the sidelines."
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Marshall said:
I expect nothing less from a Foghorn.
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It wouldn't matter what I was, I would still feel the same. I am an equal opportunity "hater". I enjoyed watching Vince Young fail after the way he started behaving after he hit the NFL. Johnny 8Ball is already outdoing Vince in the annoying behavior department and he hasn't even seen a regular season game yet.

BTW, who I root for on Saturdays has no influence on who I root for on Sundays. I have rooted for a LOT of Aggies in the NFL, probably more so than Horns in the NFL now that I think about it.

Mike Evans and Javorsky Lane come to mind for this season since I will be hitting up some Bucs games this year. Of course Bullock also.
 
Hookem Horns said:
It wouldn't matter what I was, I would still feel the same. I am an equal opportunity "hater". I enjoyed watching Vince Young fail after the way he started behaving after he hit the NFL. Johnny 8Ball is already outdoing Vince in the annoying behavior department and he hasn't even seen a regular season game yet.
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You probably hate Gronk too right?
 
Boomer lowers the boom on Manziel.




Boomer Esiason blasts Johnny Manziel: 'You're gonna get wrecked, son'

By: Chris Chase 4 hours ago


Despite Tuesday being his target date to select a starting quarterback, Cleveland Browns coach Mike Pettine said he still hasn’t decided whether Johnny Manziel or Brian Hoyer will start Week 1 against the Pittsburgh Steelers. For Boomer Esiason, who knows a little something about being a star quarterback in Ohio, the choice is easy.

“[Manziel is] not even remotely close to being ready,” Esiason said on the Tuesday edition of his WFAN morning show. “If he opened as the starting quarterback at Pittsburgh in Week 1, he would get his ass kicked.”

Esiason, who also appears on CBS’s NFL Today pregame show, said NFL teams already “hate” Manziel. He used the Browns’ first two preseason opponents - the Detroit Lions and Washington Redskins - as examples. He suggests the Steelers linebackers are basically chomping at the bit for a chance to sack Manziel on the first Sunday in September. The longtime Bengals quarterback also mocked Manziel’s “wreck this league” draft-night text to Cleveland’s QB coach by saying “you’re gonna get wrecked son.”

“Whether or not you can handle it is going to be determined by your maturity level. And right now, this kid is a baby.”

Even a Manziel supporter can’t disagree with Boomer there. Maybe you weren’t offended by Manziel flipping off the Redskins bench on Monday night. It’s just a gesture, after all. But Manziel lacking the awareness of how such a gesture would be perceived is unfathomable. He’s only 21, but he has to know better. He has to.

“If I were Mike Pettine, I would have to have my head examined to put that kid on the field."

The conventional wisdom has been all over the place on Pettine’s eventual choice. Early in camp, it felt like Hoyer would be the pick. After the first game, Manziel had momentum. Following Monday night, the pendulum feels like it’s back to Hoyer, even though he didn’t do much to deserve it.

But Pettine wasn’t tipping his hand. He also wisely didn’t take the bait when he was asked about Esiason’s quotes during a Tuesday press conference.

"I don’t have a reaction to that. That’s Boomer’s opinion. He has the right to that.”
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Scooter said:
if he werent such a douche i might feel bad for JFF ... as it stands however, i cant wait to see him get crushed.
I wouldnt draft manziel in the first two rounds.
in the end, an awesomely exciting college player that isn't fit to survive in the NFL.
the evil part of me hopes he gets drafted into the AFC north, lebeau's zone blitz alone would warp his brain
the maturity of a hamster
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i dont think i've disliked anyone coming out of college so much, and i'm an A&M fan. defenders get amped up to play against peyton or brady, but there's a respect behind it to go after the best. defenders will get similarly amped for manziel - with an equal lack of respect, and with a whole lot more bad intentions. i cant wait.

not only does manziel need to sit this year, he needs to be benched next year as well - at this moment. no re-evaluating later, no tryouts next offseason ... bench. learn. shut up. you've invested a first round pick, if you want anything to come of it other than air time, sit his dumb ass down until he's humbled and matured. but, it's the browns - he'll find a way to start this year, push his brand and have some big moments ... and be 'please hire me' vince young by 2017.
 
I don't think the browns are going to open the season with JM as the starter. I think they just haven't announced hoyer starting yet so they don't give their opponents any info to help them in their preperation.
 
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