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Texans 2014 Training Camp

Kinda goes against what the other player said, but

Jeff Legwold ‏@Jeff_Legwold · 5m
Manning on today's practice w/Texans: "I thought our offense stunk today. Their defense totally kicked our butt.''
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Then there's The Fitz

Brian T. Smith ‏@ChronBrianSmith · 6m
#Texans' Ryan Fitzpatrick was off target several times today. In final situational scrimmage, went 1 for 6 with two picks. At least two ...
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But we know we suck.... isn't that what we've been saying? 4 wins, six if we're lucky.

It's not an insult to say a dead man is dead.

What is bad, is that he thinks we don't know. That he thinks it's an insult.
 
thunderkyss said:
But we know we suck.... isn't that what we've been saying? 4 wins, six if we're lucky.

It's not an insult to say a dead man is dead.

What is bad, is that he thinks we don't know. That he thinks it's an insult.
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:mariopalm: l just watched NFL insiders on ESPN and Peyton Manning's press conference. Apparently he and whoever the unnamed player is are not on the same page or share the same opinion of the Texans. Peyton was pretty pissed off and thought his team was the team that sucked today.

That unnamed player has to be a defensive player, because apparently our defense broke the Broncos today.
 
Eh, Fitz throwing picks is nothing new.

We knew the Texans weren't going to be great after AZ.
Obviously we'll look bad next to a superbowl team.

Maybe we'll get lucky and Case or Tom will "turn it on" this
weekend..
 
xtruroyaltyx said:
Texans better pay Watt...

He's starting to get antsy...
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With what money?

J.J. is under contract and with the Texans' current cap situation they aren't going to be able to offer him the type of contract he wants at the moment. He'll get paid, but it won't be this year so he's going to have to suck it up, it's not like he's currently getting paid peanuts.
 
Carr Bombed said:
With what money?

J.J. is under contract and with the Texans' current cap situation they aren't going to be able to offer him the type of contract he wants at the moment. He'll get paid, but it won't be this year so he's going to have to suck it up, it's not like he's currently getting paid peanuts.
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They better figure it out.

Watt is kind of taking a passive aggressive approach towards this and that's not good.

Passive aggressive usually leads to an outburst of emotion. I'd hate for that outburst to end in a trade demand or a hold out or refusing to sign long term, taking the franchise tags and walking when it over.
 
HOU-TEX said:
Kinda goes against what the other player said, but



Then there's The Fitz
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Sounds like the player who said "Texans suck" has to be from the defensive side of the ball. But we already know that the offense is going to be up and down at best, and I don't expect much from that unit this season. I'd be disappointed if the Texans defense wasn't one of the best in the league this year.
 
Carr Bombed said:
:mariopalm: l just watched NFL insiders on ESPN and Peyton Manning's press conference. Apparently he and whoever the unnamed player is are not on the same page or share the same opinion of the Texans. Peyton was pretty pissed off and thought his team was the team that sucked today.

That unnamed player has to be a defensive player, because apparently our defense broke the Broncos today.
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Crennel's defense has ALWAYS given Manning fits. Ted Johnson was talking about this the other day on 610. His time under Romeo with the Pats he was 7-0 vs Manning.
 
xtruroyaltyx said:
They better figure it out.

Watt is kind of taking a passive aggressive approach towards this and that's not good.

Passive aggressive usually leads to an outburst of emotion. I'd hate for that outburst to end in a trade demand or a hold out or refusing to sign long term, taking the franchise tags and walking when it over.
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Watt has very little leverage at this point. He has 2 years left on his contract, and then he can be tagged twice (I think).

If they sign a deal before the season starts, I'd want to it to reflect the fact that the Texans control his rights for the next 4 years anyway.
 
paycheck71 said:
Watt has very little leverage at this point. He has 2 years left on his contract, and then he can be tagged twice (I think).

If they sign a deal before the season starts, I'd want to it to reflect the fact that the Texans control his rights for the next 4 years anyway.
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Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet · 18m
JJ Watt is not the only one who wants an extension. I hear #Texans have been very engaged recently, making progress to a new deal.
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Rick doing work
 
speedfreek said:
Eh, Fitz throwing picks is nothing new.

We knew the Texans weren't going to be great after AZ.
Obviously we'll look bad next to a superbowl team.

Maybe we'll get lucky and Case or Tom will "turn it on" this
weekend..
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Meh...1st practice against an unfamiliar defense. Sounds like last week started out. I wouldn't mind Case and TS "turning it on" this week, though. "God-Almighty" Peyton Manning didn't seem like his offense had the best day against an unfamiliar defense, either. Grains of salt, my friend. No need for :overreact: or :firehair:

paycheck71 said:
Sounds like the player who said "Texans suck" has to be from the defensive side of the ball. But we already know that the offense is going to be up and down at best, and I don't expect much from that unit this season. I'd be disappointed if the Texans defense wasn't one of the best in the league this year.
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I'd be surprised if Denver's isn't. I think the Texans should do well, though, if they stay healthy.

DX-TEX said:
Crennel's defense has ALWAYS given Manning fits. Ted Johnson was talking about this the other day on 610. His time under Romeo with the Pats he was 7-0 vs Manning.
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RAC's D is built on deception and he usually does a good job against Manning. Should be an interesting half of football Sat. nite with Watt and JDC on the field together. I'd like to see a series or two from Cush, also.
 
I know it won't happen now but I want to see case with ones all week and Saturday. IMO he played best on Saturday. His arm is superior to fitz. Tom is far behind.
 
amazing80 said:
I know it won't happen now but I want to see case with ones all week and Saturday. IMO he played best on Saturday. His arm is superior to fitz. Tom is far behind.
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Wow, I know you're a Case fan, but what game were you watching? You thought Case outplayed Fitz?
 
amazing80 said:
I know it won't happen now but I want to see case with ones all week and Saturday. IMO he played best on Saturday. His arm is superior to fitz. Tom is far behind.
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Were you rewatching the Arizona game? Case wasn't very close to Fitz at all, and I mean that in a bad way. I gotta admit the Keenum :homer: are getting old. The guy has displayed mediocre NFL talent. I, for one, am glad OB has picked his starter for week 1 and, barring injury, will stick with that. It's much better to be a Texan fan right now than a Brown's fan today. I'll take our QB situation over theirs any day.
 
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Big news today was Brandon Brooks returning... big.

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Ready! Omaha... Omaha...

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JD & JJ stacked and coming...

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JD working Julius...

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XSF in action. I can't tell if that's "Pot Roast" or "Side-o-Beef"?

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W, L, or Draw?

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Most of the day I think it was this...
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I'm not even going to begin to post all of the pictures of their WRs past our DBs with the ball... or all of the Derek Newton getting beat shots. ( We only have so many years on this planet.) :smiliepalm:


Quotes: Texans Tuesday practice in Denver
Head Coach Bill O’Brien
T Duane Brown
G Brandon Brooks
QB Ryan Fitzpatrick
DeAndre Hopkins
WR Andre Johnson
DE J.J. Watt
 
gtexan02 said:
Wow, I know you're a Case fan, but what game were you watching? You thought Case outplayed Fitz?
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by quite a margin. fitz looked blah at best until the 2 minute drill, and then only after scrambling. his pass to hopkins is an interception during the regular season and he almost appears to be aiming at defensive linemen. neither fitz nor savage could work in the pocket and in rhythm, while case did. what game were you watching?
 
speedfreek said:
Eh, Fitz throwing picks is nothing new.

We knew the Texans weren't going to be great after AZ.
Obviously we'll look bad next to a superbowl team.

Maybe we'll get lucky and Case or Tom will "turn it on" this
weekend..
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It is just the preseason... maybe OB will let them let it fly & test these new NFL rules.
 
DocBar said:
Were you rewatching the Arizona game? Case wasn't very close to Fitz at all, and I mean that in a bad way. I gotta admit the Keenum :homer: are getting old. The guy has displayed mediocre NFL talent.
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I don't consider myself to be a Case :homer: but mediocre talent? You've either got talent or you don't & Case has shown that he has enough talent to play in this league.

His problem is between the ears, the kind of thing coaching is supposed to fix. I don't know if Case can/will ever catch on, or "get it" but he wouldn't be the first talented mofo who couldn't.
 
Peter King @SI_PeterKing
ENGLEWOOD, Colo.-On field today:
P.Manning
D.Ware
V.Miller
A.Talib
JJ Watt
J.Clowney
Andre Johnson
W.Welker
J.Elway​
Love joint practices.

ENGLEWOOD, Colo.-Coolest thing about Hou-Den joint practices: Demarcus Ware standing on sideline, studying rush technique of Watt, Clowney.

I thought, "Maybe that's why he's the best defensive player in football."

ENGLEWOOD, Colo.-Post-practice, Texans walked off field. Watt went to individual sled, knelt before it. Did 4 sets of 8 punches on sled.

"I was fine--until JJ Watt ruined our practice."

ENGLEWOOD, Colo.-Asked Denver OC Adam Gase walking off field after first joint Texans-Broncos practice, "How you doing?" Said Gase: ">>>>>
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Fitz or Case? Here's a breakdown on their pass plays. These are measured from the LOS to the point where the pass can be completed; does not count run after catch. My initial impression is that Case throws the ball downfield slightly more often and when Fitz does throw the ball downfield, it's underthrown.

Fitz:
-2 yds completed
2 yds incomplete under pressure
15 yd completion
4 yd completion
5 yd completion
10 yd completion
...........
1 yd completion
2 yd completion
30 yd incomplete, wide open receiver, underthrown
25 yd completion, wide open receiver, underthrown, should have been a TD
6 yd completion
18 yd incomplete, LOS 9 yd line, thrown 9 yd deep in end zone
17 yd TD, LOS 9 yd line, thrown 8 yds deep in end zone

Keenum:
19 yd completion
-4 yd completion
-4 yd completion
-4 yd completion
19 yd incomplete....FG
..........
7 yd completion
13 yd incomplete
6 yd completion
19 yd completion
4 yd completion
3 yd completion
15 yd incomplete
12 yd interception
..........
12 yd incomplete
4 yd incomplete
 
thunderkyss said:
I don't consider myself to be a Case :homer: but mediocre talent? You've either got talent or you don't & Case has shown that he has enough talent to play in this league.

His problem is between the ears, the kind of thing coaching is supposed to fix. I don't know if Case can/will ever catch on, or "get it" but he wouldn't be the first talented mofo who couldn't.
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You're such a dork. LMAO.
 
Lol if you know me or read my posts you know I'm not even close to a Keenum homer. I preferred we drafted teddy b with our first pick. But since we have these three qbs I will evaluate them unbiasly. Case was 6/8 in the third and then threw a solid pass that was picked. His next drive was full of dropped balls and miscommunication on routes ran. He was the most accurate and isn't afraid to throw the ball downfield. I would give him a shot with our ones to get a true comparison.
 
amazing80 said:
Lol if you know me or read my posts you know I'm not even close to a Keenum homer. I preferred we drafted teddy b with our first pick. But since we have these three qbs I will evaluate them unbiasly. Case was 6/8 in the third and then threw a solid pass that was picked. His next drive was full of dropped balls and miscommunication on routes ran. He was the most accurate and isn't afraid to throw the ball downfield. I would give him a shot with our ones to get a true comparison.
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You either cant see or won't see. Hopefully it's nothing venereal.
 
thunderkyss said:
It is just the preseason... maybe OB will let them let it fly & test these new NFL rules.
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There's been some speculation that the refs will ease up once the season starts. But I heard on the radio today that this may not be the case. The league want to carry these tougher contact rules into the season.
 
dc_txtech said:
Nobody hates Case, he's one of the most likeable Texans ever. Some are just tired of hearing about how he is a legitimate NFL starter.
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There aren't too many, if any, of these. The claim is: the book is still open on Case. In other words, we are keeping an open mind. The ones who are "tired" have a closed mind that Case just doesn't have the tools to start.
 
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Jayson Braddock @JaysonBraddock · 18s

Duane Brown said he didn't know he was going to have Saturday's game off. Calls it "a pleasant surprise".



Jayson Braddock @JaysonBraddock · 2m

In the release from the Texans, Duane Brown says he matched up with DeMarcus Ware for the majority of the day. Nice!
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xtruroyaltyx said:
They better figure it out.

Watt is kind of taking a passive aggressive approach towards this and that's not good.

Passive aggressive usually leads to an outburst of emotion. I'd hate for that outburst to end in a trade demand or a hold out or refusing to sign long term, taking the franchise tags and walking when it over.
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That's four years from now, no need to panic. Besides can always fall back to our secret weapon in Bob McNair who is the bull whisperer.
 
dc_txtech said:
Nobody hates Case, he's one of the most likeable Texans ever. Some are just tired of hearing about how he is a legitimate NFL starter.
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And no one is tired of hearing that he's not....after just 8 games? If that's the case, Peyton Manning should have been cut after his 1-7 record (0-8), 55.1% compl (54.2%), 11/16 TD/INT ratio (9/6), 6.4 Y/A (7.0), and 64.5 passer rating (78.2) first 8 games. And that was from a #1 pick, not a UDFA.



*Case's #'s in ()
 
Number19 said:
There aren't too many, if any, of these. The claim is: the book is still open on Case. In other words, we are keeping an open mind. The ones who are "tired" have a closed mind that Case just doesn't have the tools to start.
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I think there's another group... the group I'm in.


I've seen enough to know he ain't the next Peyton Manning, but he's better than Fitzpatrick.
 
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