Immaturity and accurarcy, however he did lead his team to either a 9 or 10 win season in the SEC. Mallett although immature is the son of 2 teachers and is very inteligent.
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So .... Who's your QB in 2014 ?! - [edit] Mallett?
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Immaturity and accurarcy, however he did lead his team to either a 9 or 10 win season in the SEC. Mallett although immature is the son of 2 teachers and is very inteligent.
How about a 3rd and a 5th for Mallett, who already knows the offense and has as much or more talent as any QB in this draft.
It's just people looking for Schaub's replacement. You know, a backup QB that you can possibly get with two 2nd rounders?
Have you seen Mallett play in college? He has more god given ability than Schaub has ever had in his life. If BO'B is on board then I'm on board. If not then he knows more than we do about Mallett.
Because Mallett is unproven he should come cheap $$$$ wise.
Belichick probably don't like the kid. May have been one thin dime from cutting him in training camp. Now he's wringing his fingers thinking about the 5th, 6th, & next years 3rd he can get from us.
He does? What makes you so sure about Mallet?
JCTexan
Hall of Fame
My post was just a joke. If Ryan Mallet is O'Brien's guy then I have no problem trading for him.
Well, Schaub worked out just as well as any QB in that 2007 draft... so who knows?
burro
probably drunk
Mallett? I get the NE connection, but that would be a huge gamble considering how little football he's played lately and how sorely we need the draft picks.
If we were going to take a flyer on someone's backup, we should pry Brock Osweiler from Denver. He's 6'7", has a big arm, and spent the past season holding a clipboard for Peyton Manning.
If we were going to take a flyer on someone's backup, we should pry Brock Osweiler from Denver. He's 6'7", has a big arm, and spent the past season holding a clipboard for Peyton Manning.
kiwitexansfan
Hall of Fame
Difference being Schaub had actually played meaningful football, unlike Mallett.
kiwitexansfan
Hall of Fame
Going into this year people were really high on the QB crop, now everyone is back tracking. You can't count on next year.
3 yrs in the offense says he knows it. Like I said he's a smart kid. If he doesn't know the offense by now he wont be a Texan.
I watched Mallett in high school. Stud, Flacco type arm.
Mallett started at Michigan as a freshman. How many kids do that?
Transfered to Arkansas where his teams were better than before he got there and worse after he left. They contended for SEC championships.
Mallett's main problems had to do with a lack of maturity. After 3 yrs in the NFL if he has grown up then I have no problem with him being the QB of the Texans.
Texian
Hall of Fame
Yep, sounds like a recipe for losing to me.
kiwitexansfan
Hall of Fame
Having to hang in the pocket is not an issue with decent scheme/protection and the balls to deliver a strike under pressure.
Better than running around and getting sacked for a big loss like some other QBs with 'mobility'.
drs23
Veteran
How exactly does a team do that? Specifically the Texans next season after having 1-1 this draft? Do you have a specific proposal as a plan of action "to position yourself to get one of those QB's."?
Since I think regardless of what the Texans do this offseason they will be picking in the 10-15 range. It should cost 2015 1st 2015 3rd 2016 1st to get into the top 3-5 to get a better QB than what's in the 2015 crop.
drs23
Veteran
I'll watch. Giddyup. Don't give it a chance in hell happening though but my Daddy always told me if I'm gonna dream, dream big. No disrespect, but that's what I see here.
Sigma
Veteran
TheMatrix31
Hall of Fame
There's always another way to get there (without trading)
Yeah, if you wanna lose on purpose and be a loser.
revan
Waterboy
After reading this article I started thinking of Vick here with us as a Texan to start for a while while our future franchise qb learns the ropes, especially if we get a QB in the second round. Vick looks like he will fit in with what O'Brien wants to run in his offense and if the price is right, he could provide good leadership and mentor the future qb.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap20...ick-likely-moving-on-from-philadelphia-eagles
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap20...ick-likely-moving-on-from-philadelphia-eagles
Marshall
Not pretty, but ALIVE!
I wouldn't put too much stock in his parents career choices. I've known many teachers with the intelligence of a cumquat.
Sigma
Veteran
Well, of course I don't want that.
I didn't want that even this year tho, and here we are
Showtime100
Got JJ?
100% opposed. I hate what he did and will never like him for it. He can go to hell as far as I'm concerned.
speedfreek
All Pro
I want a street FA with a track record of helping mentor
younger QB's
Winning isn't the highest priority in 2014. I needs to be the
highest priority in 2015 though..
younger QB's
Winning isn't the highest priority in 2014. I needs to be the
highest priority in 2015 though..
BullNation4Life
All Pro
Mr teX
Hall of Fame
Yes, b/c it meant Carr was outta here & we were all ready for something new...
No, b/c he had done nothing in the NFL to that point & we gave away 2 2nd's for him basically sight unseen.
Texecutioner
Hall of Fame
Good lord, this reminds of those yearly "Lets get Chad Johnson" threads that were so hard to digest or understand.
Yeah, we're supposed to not be rebuilding, but we'll go get some guy who has been one of the worst passers in the last 10 years of the year, who can't stay healthy, has horrible pocket presence, and who also slaughtered a ton of dogs.
That last part makes him ineligible to be here. Bob wouldn't sign one of the biggest animal abusers in American history.
Yeah, we're supposed to not be rebuilding, but we'll go get some guy who has been one of the worst passers in the last 10 years of the year, who can't stay healthy, has horrible pocket presence, and who also slaughtered a ton of dogs.
That last part makes him ineligible to be here. Bob wouldn't sign one of the biggest animal abusers in American history.
Ship him to the Dawg Pound in Cleveland.
The Pencil Neck
Hall of Fame
It was a mixed bag.
Some of us were excited because there was a lot of buzz around the league about Schaub. He was considered the best QB in the league who wasn't starting. There were a lot of people in Atlanta who wanted him to start instead of Vick.
And then there were a bunch of people who were skeptical because the guy was a career backup and a 3rd round draft choice. And the question was whether he was worth 2 2nd round draft picks.
There was also a contingent that wanted Sage Rosenfels to get the job. And then a few who wanted us to draft a QB... not that there were any great QBs in that draft: Quinn or Kolb.
I don't think so Kiwi. You can check page 3 of the college forum and all of the mocks in Nov and before that.
Some liked Boyd, but others (including myself) have been saying since last year that it was the receivers that made him look good. He has fallen off the radar game by game.
Some like Hundley's potential (even early on), but he's going back to school, as he should.
Another underclassman, Mariotta, also showed promises; he will probably go back to school to hone his passing skills.
Manziel is an exciting college QB, but there has always been concern about whether his skill set will translate to the pro game. Despite having NFL caliber OTs, he get out of the pocket too often.
Murray always had that gunslinger mentality, and made stupid decisions too often, besides being short; he's a long shot.
McCarron never displayed a strong arm, even though it's not terrible.
Whether he can play well under pressure was always a question mark.
Nobody knew about Bortles until recently.
Derek Carr and David Fales played against poor competition; both have shown not to be able to play well under pressure.
Mettenberg was not high on many people's list.
His injury only helps cloud the picture further.
Bridgewater became the favorite of many (but not a vast majority) by default.
His name was never mentioned early on.
Basically, IMO, it's a deeper class than last year, but that doesn't say much.
noxiousdog
Rookie
What?
Posted 8/28/2013 NFL.com - Teddy Bridgewater tops top 16 QB's
3/3/2013 Bleacher report - TB #2 behind Manziel
8/11/2013 Pat Forde - Teddy is most pro-ready
7/17/2013 SB Nation - Bridgewater expected to be one of four (Manziel, Braxton, Murray) top contenders for O'Brien aware
Those are the top 4 google hits for "best college quarterback" from March 1st to September 30th, leaving out two other bleacher report articles (Bridge #8 because he was going to face a week schedule, and the other had him #3 behind Manzeil and Mariotta) and one that was "most intriguing".
I was talking about posters on this MB.
The most curious thing to me is that we signed him to a starters contract that pretty much meant we were married to him for at least 4 years.
However, in hindsight, had we signed him to a one or two year deal, we'd have picked up for another 4... so we'd have been in the same place anyway.
Those two weren't mutually exclusive. I wanted to let Sage named starter, draft a QB, then let them compete for the job. I think Kubiak would have been ahead of the game had he done that & selected either Quinn or Kolb. Sure, they didn't do much in the league, but Kubiak made Schaub nigh elite. Kolb would have been a monster.
Sage was just a stop gap. A little breathing room, nothing more.
TheIronDuke
All Pro
I would bet that the main reason nobody was talking about Bridgewater here was because we'd just locked up Matt Schaub for a few years and no one would have imagined he'd turn to utter garbage AND that we'd even be anywhere near the first pick of the draft. If you look at the Jags message board, they've been discussing Bridewater since last season. People were probably looking more at Boyd, McCarron, and Mettenburger because they'd be available to us more likely and could be groomed instead of us actually needing a starting QB.
An example is Jameis Winston.
Even though he's only a Freshman, many of us already spoke highly of him after about five-six games in to the season.
Another is Hundley; you can go back and check the Early mocks done in Sep, Oct, and Nov.
As far as Mariotta, there are people who thought he might leap frog Bridgewater if he comes out this year (both on this board, and outside of it.)
kiwitexansfan
Hall of Fame
If Dalton is on the outer in Cincinatti.
Would you consider trying to trade for him?
Would you consider trying to trade for him?
Allstar
Bona fide
I wouldn't surrender a 1st or 2nd rounder.
kiwitexansfan
Hall of Fame
How about 1:1 for their 1st and Dalton?
guichows6
Practice Squad
Although I'm a manziel guy, I'm starting to jump on the Bridgewater bandwagon. I think he has what it takes to be a BIG TIME nfl qb. He looks alot like Russell Wilson now. When wilson was a college player, he scrambled around more, but since then, he's been more of a pocket guy. TB seems like he's got what it takes to succeed mindwise.Great character. Great work ethic. Humble. Calm. Smart. Passio for the game. Overall good guy.
Then you add in what he's done on the field...sounds like a cant miss. He will eventually get bigger and fill in in a cpl years. Played against bad competition? Had bad talent around him... (I'm reaching here because I dont know much about his teammates) I'm sure he makes his team better.
Bridgewater or Manziel sound good to me. I dont care which one as long as we dont trade down to get mallet or bortles. TB or JM with the edge to ...tbd.
Then you add in what he's done on the field...sounds like a cant miss. He will eventually get bigger and fill in in a cpl years. Played against bad competition? Had bad talent around him... (I'm reaching here because I dont know much about his teammates) I'm sure he makes his team better.
Bridgewater or Manziel sound good to me. I dont care which one as long as we dont trade down to get mallet or bortles. TB or JM with the edge to ...tbd.
EVOLVIST
Kid A
I believe all of this is completely irrelevant at the moment, but I know we have to have something to talk about.
Still, whoever Mr. O'Brian hitches his Yankee wagon to, he's going to live or die by that sword, sure hell he will. There have been very, very, very few coaches in the history of the game who have seen success without a top flight QB to part the Red Sea.
That's the Promised Land, baby. Fact.
Still, whoever Mr. O'Brian hitches his Yankee wagon to, he's going to live or die by that sword, sure hell he will. There have been very, very, very few coaches in the history of the game who have seen success without a top flight QB to part the Red Sea.
That's the Promised Land, baby. Fact.
Trap_Star
SiteContributor
he was drafted in '01 as a redshirt sophmore. texans didn't come in until '02. he was already in the league.