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So .... Who's your QB in 2014 ?! - [edit] Mallett?
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Allstar
Bona fide
No way Cleveland gives him up.
kingtexan
All Pro
They are all projects. None of them NFL ready. So yeah, trade down with Cleveland so they can go get the hometown hero and pick up some extra picks then draft Bortles at #4. If you just have to waste a first round pick on one of this years QB's ...
Allstar
Bona fide
poof!
Thanks for clarifying for those that didn't get the joke. I know many here weren't around in 06.
EllisUnit
Vote RED!!!
O'Brien says he needs a QB who has great accuracy, a coach on the field, and someone who makes great decisions on and off the field. No one matches that better than Teddy. Sorry Aggies.
Yes dont forget all of this is against college competition, we all know that that dont always translate to NFL success.
WolverineFan
Hall of Fame
Work ethic translates regardless of what conference you play in.
EllisUnit
Vote RED!!!
Just because you work your ass of at something doesnt mean you will be the best at it, and it dont mean you will ever actually be good at it.
I'm not saying the boy will fail, i'm not saying he will succeed, all i am saying is we all know there is no gurantee that college success will translate to NFL success.
bOODRO87
Time Consumer
Wow, that's some perspective to have. There's plenty of very good NFL players from smaller schools. Should I remind you of the big school players that suck balls?
GuerillaBlack
Hall of Fame
And who says Manziel has bad work ethic?
TheIronDuke
All Pro
Whoa, that's pretty deep. Just making sure I'm reading correctly, college success doesn't ALWAYS mean that they'll be good in the NFL? That really changes my mind, we need to draft someone with NFL experience then, obviously!
EllisUnit
Vote RED!!!
I agree, and we have seen average players in college become superstars in the NFL. The draft is like battleship its either hit or miss. And i'm sorry but as texans fans we have had a lot of misses.
WolverineFan
Hall of Fame
Agree. At the same time, playing against poor competition doesn't mean his talent won't translate to the NFL. He has shown up and played great against the good competition he has faced.
EllisUnit
Vote RED!!!
HAHA come on now, you all act like i am trying to tell you all something you dont know and then being smart asses about it. I am just seeing a lot of people here who are pinning Bridgewater as the next great thing to come out of college. Just trying to keep it all in perspective for them.
TheIronDuke
All Pro
This concerned me when it happened:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/nf...l-aaron-hernandez-monday-morning-quarterback/
EllisUnit
Vote RED!!!
But that competition was still college competition, in the NFL the LBs, the CBs, the Dline and Safties are all faster. The NFL is the best of the best players from all over the country. And thats why a lot of succesful college athletes have trouble translating to the NFL. The game is so much faster.
I am not saying anything everyone dont already know. I am just really skeptical about Bridgewater is all.
WolverineFan
Hall of Fame
I'm skeptical as well, but he played extremely well against Florida, Miami, and UCF. I really don't think the competition argument has any merit.
TheIronDuke
All Pro
You're skeptical about Bridgewater but you're on board with Hundley? Ok...
WolverineFan
Hall of Fame
Well I didn't for one, so not sure why you're quoting me. If you want my opinion though.....
Bridgewater has been praised for being a film junkie and as someone who is always looking for ways to improve as a QB. He studies non-stop off the field to get better command of the offense. I haven't heard people say similar things about Manziel.
To a point. If the raw talent isn't there, all the work ethic in the world won't make you a star. (Think all the praise Wade had for Shiloh Keo)
It CAN happen, but it's a longshot.
Link
33 out of...1696
Really? How about from the start?
WolverineFan
Hall of Fame
That's from his own coaches. I haven't heard people outside the program say as much. With Bridgewater, you hear about it from every scout or media analyst who has spent time with him.
Honoring Earl 34
Something Witty !
John Unitas went to Louisville .
EU didn't say anything about smaller schools. It was mentioned that no one ran a pro style offense as well as Bridgewater did. EU was just reminding them that was against college defenses. Not small school defenses, college defenses. Just because he ran a pro offense better than any other college QB doesn't mean he can do it in the NFL & it doesn't mean he can do it better than someone like Hundley.
We don't know how well Hundley can run a pro offense, because he was never asked to. Bridgewater may be better at it today than Hundley, but who's to say it will be that way 10 years from now?
For some reason a lot of people thought Tim Couch would be able to run an NFL offense better than Donovan McNabb, but it didn't work out that way.
What off field distractions?
He likes pretty women and drinking. What 20 yr old kid doesn;t.
Or are you jealous that his family can afford him to play outside the NCAA guidelines. He can do anything he wants the rest of his life. Guess what he did this offseason? Worrked out with QB guru George Whitfield.
Quit listening to ESPN and actually look at JM as a player.
Yep that's how it is when your team stinks , needs a QB and the best QB is barely a 1st rd pick in a good yr and you have a generational DE.
Some people can never learn. See the Carr/Peppers fiasco repeating itself.
Something tells me there's going to be a huge push as the draft approaches for Manziel's name to be called #1. He seems like everything BOB would despise, but I almost, ALMOST, kind of would like to see it happen.
I would hate to pass up on him and let him go on to be the next great thing in the league which is what I think might happen.
I would hate to pass up on him and let him go on to be the next great thing in the league which is what I think might happen.
aussie_texan
Veteran
because we know so much about our head coach already.
these comments irritate me so much, lets wait and see before we jump to ill-informed conclusions.
If you're irritated then you need to have a drink. I said "he seems like"...... meaning I have no idea, but its based on interviews and some thoughts he's conveyed about QBs he likes. Its just words my friend and my opinion. If you don't agree then you don't agree, but chill out.
There's a video you should watch that someone else posted and maybe, someone's opinion based on what the coach has said about what he likes from the QB position wouldn't irritate you so much.
Marshall
Not pretty, but ALIVE!
Mariota is just like the coaches that swear to the recruits that they will be there...until they aren't. Mariota has asked for an NFL Grade. He might come out with a sufficiently high grade. If he and Hundley both come out, trading down gains merit. But if BOB decides he would rather have a smart, but short QB with a low release, then it's his gamble and we're just along for the ride. But Keenum's value as a backup/competition goes up.
Number19
Hall of Fame
A big push by whom? Bob McNair, Rick Smith and O'Brian - these are the only one's who count. They'll have input from the new coordinators and from the organization's scouts. Ultimately, it will come down to the player O'Brian wants.
DX-TEX
#TomSavageDontCare
Im sure that what the Chargers said about Ryan Leaf
Yeah, he was mentioning Matt McGloin at 6'0 thereabout in the video:
http://youtu.be/dmH7jvQN4zk
That may encompass several QBs in this class.
Personally, I can't say that I know enough about QB play to declare that the QB (any QB) did what he was supposed to do on several plays so it is hard to tell which one has a higher football IQ, Bridgewater, Manziel, McCarron, Mariotta, Hundley, Mettenberger, Murray, or whoever.
There are instances when we don't know for sure how the offense is supposed to attack or counter the defense, where and when the QB is supposed to throw the ball, or where and how the receivers are supposed to run their routes, especially when we don't have the All-22 view to help see the whole field.
They might have different skill sets, that much we know, but as far as football IQ, I honestly don't know for sure which one has the most upstairs.
There are also the videos of some of his press conferences out there.
A couple of good samples could be the one after Penn St. lost big to Ohio St., and the one after they beat Michigan in OTs a week later.
I think I like his demeanor as a HC.
Quite spontaneous; hardly any hesitation in answering questions; then once he's done, he gets up and leaves quickly; no-nonsense.
A couple of good samples could be the one after Penn St. lost big to Ohio St., and the one after they beat Michigan in OTs a week later.
I think I like his demeanor as a HC.
Quite spontaneous; hardly any hesitation in answering questions; then once he's done, he gets up and leaves quickly; no-nonsense.
I see this as more like the 2006 draft. Team just came off of a 2-14 season, fired the old coach, hired a new coach. The current Texans "franchise" QB sucks and needs to be replaced (however this time around it's more clear that he sucks as he has been benched, and not sure Bob is in love with Schaub's famlily).
You have a flashy QB coming from a Texas University that has a ton of fans within the Texans fanbase (many will be clamoring for the Texans to draft him). BTW, are there any big mattress store owner/Aggie fans in Houston? If so, expect to see ads.
You have a DE that is a physical freak but his work ethic being questioned.
This draft however appears to me to be much deeper at QB. Also you don't have an over hyped "Reggie Bush" type player in the mix.
I can see McNair falling in love with the idea.
Thats what the draft process is all about. In one video he talked about how his QB needs to be able to make good decisions, and referenced that you can tell a lot about the decisions he makes off the field. That's more or less where I was going with it. Like I said I'm just guessing that he may not particularly care for Johnny's antics and seeing as how they're both fiery they may clash. On the other hand I could be completely wrong. The draft is over 4 months away so there will be plenty of guessing between now and then.
The thought did come across my mind when I heard about "decisions off the field".
In the post Michigan presser, he also mentioned about high-character guys.
bOODRO87
Time Consumer
Both Bridgewater and Manziel are fantastic college QBs although I think Manziel would have to redefine his game more. However, one likes to party and couldn't be professional enough to finish the Manning passing academy. Are those huge red flags? Of course not. But don't tell me that's not considered when you're talking about the first pick.
That's why even though I like Manziel, I have to knock him down to the third before I would risk a pick on him.
I think he has first round talent, but like Wilson and Keenum, I have to knock him down a bit, and then the off-the-field decisions knock it down a bit further.
Bridgewater, on the other hand, doesn't posess the mental nor the phisical ability to be a number one overall.
He's a cross between many QBs drafted in the first round but outside #3 overall, not a bona-fide can't miss prospect.
Errant Hothy
Hypermediocrity
This has to be just your opinion. I know it's early in the process but everything said so far refutes that. Evidence on the field does as well, between calling out protection to audibles.
TheIronDuke
All Pro
It's a complete load of crap and 100% his wrong opinion. I guess Bridewater has nothing on freaking Keenum. Christ, my ignore list will be double digits by the time the draft is here.
It's scary, isn't it.
drs23
Veteran
whuuut?
b0ng
Bad Hombre
I don't think A&M fans are going to go quite as overboard on JFF as UT fans did with VY. Hell it seems like the A&M fans who get real frothy at the mouth when discussing football don't think very highly of JFF's off the field antics, warranted or not.
I think the big difference here is instead of a heisman winning RB, you've got a QB from a small school that has been pegged as "probably" the best QB in the class hanging around.